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Porsche Cayenne Prices Paid
I am looking to buy a 2005 Cayenne V6 or S in the Boston area...thought I'd start this thread to see what prices are being paid and also to find out who are the best dealers service-wise in the Boston area....I like to buy where I plan to service...
I think the dealers are really behind the times in providing excellent service....though my dealer/service advisor goes out of his way to please me...brought the cayenne in for alignment and oil change , and he gave me a rental car and a free full tank of gas....
good luck on your search..
Any idea what discounts may be on the V6 model?
How fast is the V6? Is it even worth considering? Finally, what are some Bay Area dealers or even any in CA that are giving large discounts for year end models. Thanks for your input.
I hope you can wait 3 months...because typically December is slow, since people are buying gifts (small) , so they may be more willing to bargain......
I think Oakland Porsche is willing to bargain down....and just stick with it....and you will get the car...
For some reason, I'm thinking you're in the Bay Area.
went to test drive the 3 vehicles noted above and have cut the decision down to a clear winner, the cay s. even though the one i am looking at doesn't have all the options i believe having the guts underneath the cay are more important than the toys on the fx.
my concern is one reliability - there i have my doubts about the cay after reading the boards here and at another site.
looking for some cay support...
btw, the pricing is under 55k but no nav; bummer - any way to get it reasonably?
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a lot more bargaining room there...
I like the Cayenne....most on the boards know that....the reasons are many...
1- Like you said...the guts....the engine. The engine is hand built and bench tested. Does that mean something ? No, not to a lot of people. But to a few aficionados...it means the engine has been built with love ( not worth much ?) , and has been hooked up to a dynometer, and made sure it produced the stated horsepower. If it does not, the engine tech must take it apart and start over....it must past the HP test....and torque tests....etc....just like AMG engines, and a vast majority of racing/exotic engines....
2- the problems that you hear may be limited to some fine tuning of components, or some part failure. These happen even to Hondas. My toyota had problems too. I am not discounting they exist....just saying that they may be minor teething pains
nothing like the krypton bike lock....
3- best combination of 4x4 and race car that I have seen yet...though the FX45 comes close, as does the BMW. BTW, if you go to their forums, you will find problems there also...
The overall Quality is great except poor dash ergonomics for HVAC and audio and a nagging hesitation in the throttle, the initial quality control from Porsche on these cars is poor. Just expect to buy a car that will have whatever issues handled by the dealer...
so check in with the service dept and see if you get a good impression, are they real (humans) or arrogant? What will they give you for a loaner? My dealer really cares about my satisfaction and I would have sold the car long ago if they didn't... I now have about 8k miles and the
It's a fun ride if you can be really tolerant the first 6 months.
Great brakes and suspension along with mountain driving have taken a toll on the tires. I am hoping that in the spring I'll get the snow tires off and find some Michelin or Goodyear that will fit. The selection is slim at the moment so I just put on dunlop snows.
perhaps the issues are more random, than systematic...'
though there are some systematic ones...like the remote sensitivity, or lack thereof..
I did not want to wait, so bought mine right when it came out....so paid a premium...
Recently I was selected by a research group Fisher Associates (maybe hired by Porsche ?) to answer an in depth survey regarding the cayenne.
I rated it very high overall, but did mention things like the remote sensitivity, need for large wheels to be at least an (no charge) option but standard, improvements in luxury features, so it will be able to surpass the Range Rover in that aspect. I know the engine already surpasses the Ranger, as do all performance related features.
Any advice much appreciated,
well, perhaps they will add that next....
I just reach up and adjust it(mirror) myself...
Since I was tired of that salesperson, I then used Edmunds to get a quote from Stevens Creek Porsche and the salesperson there is much easy to deal with. The quote I got is about $1000 below the TMV price from Edmunds. Anyone thinks this is a good deal?
Did anyone use Costco or AAA Auto program and get a good deal?
I did not deal with Fremont.
Stead's in Walnut Creek was fine also....but may want a higher price due to its location in a relatively affluent neighborhood...
power is going up for the turbo, to about 500
for the "S" , the power will go up too...
as will the V6 ...but that is only what the car mags say....
went looking for a C04 this weekend in long beach but was talked into an executive demo CS04 (with 1500mi) with nav, comfort seats, moonroof, 6 cd changer, park assist and 4 separate climate control for $55K out the door. Just wondering if this was a good deal. The options arent important to me, with the exception of the moonroof. Just wondering what people are seeing year end for the CS in la area?
had an opportunity to snag a good deal on a p supported cay but missed it by a couple hours. now another opportunity has come up - a new 04 s non metallic blue (dark sea blue) and grey (slate) interior. trbo look whls & crests, nav, elec pkg, entry & drive, cd chgr, bi-xens, moonroof. 54.5 sell. a bit more than 10k under 04 list. your thoughts are appreciated.
this deal goes in the paper tomorrow so is it worth it to snag this particular one or wait for a better deal or an '05.
thx in advance!
If the options are to your agreement (I like them all), don't miss the 10Koff. On the 2005, it will not be this substantial and you always have the issue if the vehicle on the lot is optioned to your preferences or not.
One thing I know is that this is one vehicle you are likely to keep for long and if the thought is around the Trade in value etc.. I will prefer to take the immediate discount vs. buying 2005 at a higher price.
Good luck and let us know what happened...
One thing head lights leak. There is a recall and will be fixed right away.
Is the hot tip simply to call all the big-allocation dealers in FL, strike a deal and get it shipped up for $700? (I assume that the big-allocation dealers, even the self described "worlds biggest Porche dealer", have some basic Cays in stock?). Or are the warranty/service issues going to make this not a good idea.
Please advise before my wife says, not without justification, to stop this nonsense and just buy a Denali with 6 liters of cast iron American V8, ready to run out to 150K with just $19.95 oil changes (what is an oil change on a Cay? $150?), a severe duty (x-large convertor/huge fluid capacity) automatic, and parts available at every NAPA. After a while the world of Porche and its dealer body can become a pain. Must be from having to practice saying "Por-Sha" all day long.
I agree with sviniak. It seems like you have some pretty good package. I like the grey interior,,,,mine is savannah beige...which gets dirtier (visibly) easier...
I like the navigation, but the 05 has the DVD based nav...the 04 is still the CD based nav. I have no problems with my Cd based one....I don't have entry and drive, and no changer either. So it seems like a good package....
The turbo wheels are easier to wipe clean, compared to the other one, which I have. I wish I stayed with the turbo ones... sigh...
if you are the type of person that isn't totally wrapped up in a brand image and really want a well thought out and crafted car, check this one out!
Anyway, I believe my Cay S is now 3 years away. Hope they work out the kinks during that time. I will be monitoring this board regularly.
there are good deals to be had - just ask! ps, these deals were in TX
I have been planning to buy a Cayenne V6 for a while. Here is the deals I researched in Silicon Valley.
Costco Auto Program: (offerred by Fremont Porsche)
Invoice + $3500 for Cayenne V6
Invoice + $4500 for Cayenne S
not available for Cayenne Turbo
AAA Auto Program: (offerred by Redwood City Porsche)
5% off MSRP for ordering one
7% off MSRP for buying for inventory
I also got a deal by Mill Valley Porsche:
2005 Cayenne V6 MSRP $55895.
The deal is $50166. About 10.25% off MSRP.
I can't seem to find invoice price for 2005 Cayenne. The sales manager at Fremont told me the invoice is about 88.5% of MSRP. But using 2004 MSRP and invoice info on the web, the invoice is about 85% fo MSRP. Can anyone confirm?
Anyway, I talked to a few other dealerships and this is the best price I got. The place is Carlsen Porsche in Redwood City. The sales guy is super pleasant, down-to-earth, and straighforward (not salesy), and knows a lot about the car. I can't name names here, but just use the Edmunds free dealer quote, check Carlsen Porsche and you will be fine (heck, check on other dealers too for good measure). Supposedly this is one of the two largest dealers in Silicon Valley, and hence they got better pricing (The other big dealer in SV is Stevens Creek - but they are way stuck up and won't deal the price much.)
Kaipingma, as for figuring invoice prices, it is about 84% of MSRP (depends on the specific options). I verified it when I purchased this sweet Cayenne S.
Not sure about the V6 pricing, but I noticed there are many more V6's on the parking lot than V8's, so the pricing should be a bit better. But I say go for the V8. Good luck!
MSRP is $54195. Invoice is $47221. Paid $1500 over invoice + tax and fees. This is in the Bay Area. I got 3 dealers to offer me this price and I chose the closet one (Fremont, CA)
BTW, one of the fees I paid is called "Optional DMV Electronic Filing Fee", which is $28. No dealers ever mentioned this fee to me during negotiation. (I always asked out-the-door price to avoid any hidden fee.) Did anyone also pay this fee? Is this bogus?
Porsche of Nashua offers two features I hadn't found elsewhere. Your sales person will be your point of contact on service/warranty work and they offer complimentary, comparable loaners (you pay for the gas though). These are two nice touches. Maybe our local Volvo dealer would have gotten an XC90 sale if his sales people (we currently have a XC70) ran interference with the service writers. (Sorry guys, that last botched warranty job didn't thrill us.)
We pulled up by appointment at 9:00 AM on Friday to get the end of year, Section 179 deal, chose a car and were out in an hour. We pick the car up this Tuesday.
While I know that 50% of Porsche sales are Cayennes, I am still surprised that Porsche isn't selling as many of these V6s as they can build. Afterall, the pricing is comparable if not lower than the 3.0 X5, the product is newer and better, and the buying/ownership experience more pleasant. Where would you want to have a warranty issue: at a very busy, high volume BMW store or a Porsche store trying to grow the line? Which car will have better resale in three years, a freshly styled V6 Cayenne or an outdated, old-style X5? One thing holding the Cayenne back is the tendency of some dealers to put 10K of options onto the V6s. This results in a 55K MSRP. They might as well post directions to the local BMW store at that point.
Three questions. What do we do about the front end film protection. Go for RoadBlock (425 221 5352; RoadBlock.com) for $350 for the full front end and bumpers kits and have it installed by a local body shop? Or do we go for X-Pel (X-Pel.com) for quite a bit more money and have it installed by an X Pel trained installer? Maybe if we have the X Pel guy install it he, who presumably buys the kit at a discount, will discount the product to get the labor? We plan on keeping the vehicle for 10 years or so. In our experience, in New England that means having the front hood repainted a couple or three times.
My second question refers to oil changes. I know that various dealers say that on the V6, you can wait until 15K or so to do the oil. This to me is crazy. Sure, the Mobil 1 is good oil but it gets dirty like any other oil. And, like all new engines, there must be some machining chips still in the engine. Shouldn't I do a change at 3K or so to get the assembly crap out it? Is an oil change difficult on a Cayenne, i.e., are there protective guards that must be removed?
Finally, whats with using synthetic on an unbroken-in engine? The prevailing wisdom in the engine business (see Tech Bulletins by the Automotive Engine Rebuilders Association) is not to break in an engine in with synthetics because they won't allow for enough friction for the rotating/moving parts to get acquainted.
1- front end film , is the way to go, IMO. It protects the paint without destroying the looks/ style of the vehicle. I had mine done for $500 including labor...with double layer on the headlights. He also did the door ends that swings out and may get chipped on mailboxes and trees, and the two side view mirrors. Forgot which brand he used....
2- there are a few protective shrouds that are easily removed to get to the drain plug. Yes, the first recommended oil change is at 15,000 miles....though I changed mine at 9000 due to the same concerns that you raised. At 3000 the oil still looked new. Maybe the oil filter does most of the cleaning of the oil. I changed the oil again at 15000 miles. It only has 16000 now.
I read in the cayenne book (yes, they have a hard bound book) that the engine is hand assembled using the closest tolerances . After the engine is assembled, it is bench tested for horsepower....something other car makers do NOT do.
3- so maybe the engine components are well acquainted with each other , so that a more lubricating oil is good enough.. ..... In fact, that syn oil may extend the life of your hand assembled engine.
I think AMG of Mercedes also hand assembles their engines ......
I think your concerns about oil changes, break-in oil, synthetic in new engines, etc... are a little out of date..
The new engines come ready to go, right out of the box (so to speak)..
However, I grew up (probably as you did) with 3K oil changes being the bible of car maintenance.. My current car also calls for 15K changes of synthetic motor oil... Since I can't completely disregard my upbringing, I compromise by changing every 7500 miles..
No good reason.. just makes me feel better, and since we put about 15K per year on the car, it only runs me about $90/yr. extra to do it..
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