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Honda Odyssey 2005+



  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Welcome to Edmunds and what a nice birthday surprise!


    If the problem is normal, why is the dealer then telling you that you are the only one in the US with the problem? sheesh.


    I'd contact HondaUSA and tell them you aren't happy with the dealer's efforts to fix your brakes - maybe that'll get you new rotors or whatever the van needs.


    Check out the Honda Owners Club forums too.


    Steve, Host
  • The rotors are cast iron. New or old, they all rust. The rust is worn off with the next application of teh brakes. I have not had a brake rotor warpage problem in a Honda since the early 80's - very strange. As I have not heard of a problem from others, I wonder if there is a problem with the pistons in the caliper. Who knows but I have found the brakes to be rock solid to this point.
  • You need new pads, new rotors and make sure that the Honda Tech's properly torque the wheels by "hand" and don't use an air gun!
  • We have had this happen several times with our 2000 model. There is something wrong with the rear braking.


    In 130,000 miles we have had to replace the front pads and rotors many times, however, the rear shoes have never worn out. Apparently the front is doing all of the work, getting hot and warping the rotors. The rears are just going along for the ride.


    I had hoped they had fixed this problem with the newer models. I would make sure this is fixed before your vehicle is out of warranty. Otherwise you will have this problem forever or have an expensive repair bill out of warranty.
  • I just upgraded my EX-L's audio system with new speakers and a small amp/sub combo. Everything sounds great, until I start driving... then the ANC kicks on over and over and I hear a loud booming through the sub. My wife has taken to counting down for our impending launch now whenever it starts!


    Anyone know how to disable or defeat the ANC?
  • cccompsoncccompson Posts: 2,388
    In my experience, Honda brakes pads simply do not last very long. I suspect (without any evidence whatsoever) that they are designed intentionally very soft to help avoid the earlier rotor warpage problems Hondas had.
  • azkid2azkid2 Posts: 47
    I've yet to hear of really good gas mileage with the VCM engine. I thought I'd ask here under the '05 ODY, but you might want to post in the gas mileage posting. Thanx.
  • ace1000ace1000 Posts: 151
    I've calculated the mileage three times, and the mpg was 22,24,and 22. The 24 mpg was primarily freeway driving, but I was helping someone move, so the van was packed to the ceiling with a lot of furniture and heavy boxes. The 22 mpg included much more around town driving. I have an EX-L with under 2000 miles.
  • 05 with VCM at 7500 miles, 22 mpg highway. So far I'm very disappointed with the mileage.
  • I was thinking about adding an after-market powered subwoofer but reading your post about ANC incompatibility issue, I wonder if I am better off with a genuine Honda sub.


    Has anyone actually compared the sound quality of the Touring model (with Honda? power sub) and that of EXL?


    Does the sound quality worth the extra cost of adding the $234 sub from "H and A Accessories"?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    Oh, I don't know...when I sold my 1999 V-6 coupe it still had the original front brake pads and they had almost half the pad material left.


    People really don't want to hear this but the DRIVER has the greatest affect on brake life.


    We all follow people everyday who use their brakes constantly.
  • So, by your reasoning, the folks complaining should have been used to wearing out their brakes from all the other vehicles they had driven the same way, eh?


    Your argument just doesn't hold water, unless these people almost always wear out their brakes quickly or they suddenly became brake-pedal-riders in this one case....
  • mikeo1mikeo1 Posts: 53
    I had a very reputable and long time

    local mechanic tell me that my

    '01 OD front rotors were so hard that

    his milling machine had no affect on them.


    Of course he may have been selling me a line

    but it would have been out of character for

    this fella.
  • I have heard of the same thing about driving habits contributing to brake wear. Now what I find hard to believe since if modern cars have ABS, which pumps the brakes for you, how can driving habits contribute to premature brake wear? (I can see this logic on older cars that don't have ABS.) We have a 1998 Pontiac Sunfire that has to have the front pads replaced every year or about 12K. To me this seems strange and when I asked the mechanic about this, years ago, they told me that the brake system on this model was bad compared to other cars. I had a 1986 Lincoln Town Car that had the pads changed about every 20K.
  • >>I have heard of the same thing about driving habits contributing to brake wear. Now what I find hard to believe since if modern cars have ABS, which pumps the brakes for you, how can driving habits contribute to premature brake wear?<<

      Because some people use the brakes a LOT more than needed. I'm always wondering (and fuming) why the person is hitting their brakes in front of me when it's a slight bend or - GASP - a police car with someone pulled over on the side of the road.

    Just DRIVE, people!

    Sorry, just one of my pet peeves. :)
  • rand01rand01 Posts: 75
    ABS only takes effect when a wheel is skidding, not a factor under normal braking and should have nothing to do with excessive brake wear.


    I agree with Craig, the driver is the number one factor regarding brake wear. I see it every day, the light turns red 500 feet ahead and yet drivers continue to accelerate like it just turned green! A little vision down the road and good common sense goes a long way towards saving your brakes!


    When I sold my 2000 Suburban, 40,000 miles and I bet I still had at least a good 1/3 of the original brake pad left on the front calipers.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    Masterpaul, I know some cars are harder on brakes than others but ABS has nothing to do with this.


    ABS only comes into play in an emergency stop or if the road surface is slipperly and the driver comes down on the brakes hard.


    We can blame this on the car if we want to, and, granted the car is definatly a factor but again, driving habits are the most important element of this.


    If your Cavalier went through front pads everry 10,000 miles, I'm sorry, but I suspect a hard driver. People who brake with their left foot are the worst on brakes.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    Rand01. You are a careful driver who anticipates changes in traffic etc.


    Like I've said before, nobody wants to take personal responsibility.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    I don't disagree with you. If a person who is used to getting 50,000 miles on a set of brake pads suddenly starts going through pads every 10,000 miles, something is wrong.


    Or just maybe little Johnny just turned 16 and got his driver's license?


    My parents had a tough time (at first)wondering why their Skylark started wearing out the rear tires and brakes so often. :)


    Once they found out, my fun stopped!
  • If a vehicle has Traction Control the front brakes pads could wear out sooner if people don't understand what's going on when they are spinning the wheels.


    Whatever the brake pads are made out of will effect brake wear and stopping distance.
  • I agree. I remember hearing that in the older cars you where suppose to pump the brakes when coming to a stop. Now with the new brake technology, they say don't pump the brakes. Can anybody explain this to me? I know about electronic brake distribution because are van has it. Does it activate every time the brakes are applied? Thanks
  • I have a 2001 Chevy Impala and they are notorious for rotor warpage and early replacement. I had to replace my front and rear rotors at 30,000 miles. The pads were in great shape and were not replace at that time. A friend of mine at work has had their rotors replace 3 times in 100K and about to get theirs done again, I am also. Another friend with a Ford Crown Vic replaced their rotors front AND rear at about 30- 35K.


    Don't know about Honda Odys but I have been offered many explanations some are beyond belief (the steel is too green and needs to be aged - would be ok of the rotors were allowed to sit out for a while??) My personal belief is that on the Impalas is that the problem is the Aluminum wheels which are very open to allowing water to hit the hot rotors when stopping in the rain. This seems to be a fairly common problem in many makes and seems to be more prominent with the growing popularity of open aluminum wheels and low profile tires.


    Sionce I haven't changed driving habits and I never had this problem on any other vehicle and I drive approximately 22 - 25K a year and have driven in Europe as well as America, I don't think my driving habits are the source on one car having this problem.

    Know this isn't directly addressable to the Ody but I hope it may offer some insight.
  • faxpawfaxpaw Posts: 17
    My daughter has our 2000 Odyssey, it currently has 125,000 miles. The front rotors were turned and pads replaced at 67,000 miles and at 119,500 miles the front rotors were replaced. The back brakes (drum type) are original and have 40% left! We previously had GM & Ford vans and the brake life wasn't even in the same league as our 2000 Odyssey. I can only hope that our 2005 EXL does as well.
  • jntjnt Posts: 316
    It sounds like ANC has its bad side (booming sound when you don't want it).


    I assume ANC is the Active Noise Cancellation where the radio theoretically sends out out-of-phase sound to cancel out the original engine noise (like airplane headphone)


    Since the ANC is in the radio head (made by Clarion, I think), the simplest solution is to replace the radio head. Most of the times, radio makers have calibration EEPROM memmory for adjusting certain radio parameters. If that is the case, I bet they have an ON/OFF option for the ANC. But only the dealers or OEM/supplier engineers have the tool to read or change these values.


    Even after you disable the ANC, you may hear more mechanical engine vibration since ANC was designed to reduce this effect.


  • Wasn't one of the possible causes of warped rotors the over/under-tightening of the lug nuts when putting the wheels on? If so, that might explain the variable results people are experiencing depending on whether/not a torque wrench was used correctly on the lug nuts. Besides, I'm guessing that the least-experienced guy in the shop is the one given tire/wheel duty, so quality might be highly variable!
  • daddyddaddyd Posts: 22
    To me, it sounds more like a dull tool on his milling machine than anything else.
  • nwngnwng Posts: 664
    I got between 60-70k miles on brake pads on every car I've own. But those are regular size sedans and I am sure if I drive a 4000 lbs plus vehicle, the life of the brake pads would be much less.


    But people got to remember easing off the accelerator also slows the car down too.
  • olioolio Posts: 3
    Can anyone confirm a noticeable downshift around 10MPH when braking (e.g. when slowing for a stop sign)on the 2005 Odyssey? Maybe the transmission "learning" the driving style? Just want to know if I should bring it in to the dealer. The missus (primary driver) does not seem to notice.
  • li_285li_285 Posts: 29
    It seems that each time I use automatic climate control which is my default setting, I will see quite some water dripping under the car even when the set temperature is far greater than outside temperature. Is this normal? Does AC work all the time to correct the fluctuation in temperature? Thanks.
  • li_285li_285 Posts: 29
    It seems that each time I use automatic climate control which is my default setting, I will see quite some water dripping under the car even when the set temperature is far greater than outside temperature. Is this normal? Does AC work all the time to correct the fluctuation in temperature? Thanks.
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