Honda Odyssey 2005+

hayneldan

try this site http://www.homelink.com/home/global.taf

andmoon

I just grew up and traded my wrx wagon for a Touring.

I hope the inactivity here means there are no issues w/ the post 05s.

Don

jd000

""After looking at the Oddly wiring diagram today the solution is simple for anyone handy. Although both outlets in the front are close together, the one closer to the driver has a relay in the fuse panel on the left side and the other one has the relay in the right passenger footwell fuse panel.

While the fuses are accessible the 'plug in relays' are not and the trim panels need to be removed. Pick either the right or left panel. For the drivers side remove the foot sill panel and then the wall panel. there is a blue plug on the panel on top, pull that out and then pull the panel toward you.

In the left panel there are two rows of relays, the 'power outlet' is the top right black relay. IN the right panel there is only one row of relays and it si the right one (looking at it). If you pull the relays out the power to the outlet will go out.

Both relays are identical, when looking at the 4 prongs on the relay they will look like:

ll= with a directional knub on the left side

By putting a jumper wire across the l1 (gold color copper)you power the outlet to be always ON. The = prongs (yellow gold) are the power to hold IN the relay when the ignition is on. It might be easier to wrap a solid copper wire, 18 20 gage, tightly around the two ll prongs and reinsert the relay. voila the power is on all the time. Just don't plug in your laptop and leave it on.""

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I did this and it works. I used two 1/4 inch spade lugs on each end of a 3 inch insulated #16 wire. Makes the jumper easy to remove if necessary.

Now I would like to do the same for the outlet in the rear of an '07 Ody EX-L. Does anyone know if a relay controls this outlet and where it is located?

Thanks for any help.

mtbhead

We own a 05 Odyssey Touring. I just want to comment in case anyone from Honda ever reads this forum. It's so incredibly stupid that there's no equivalent to the "Menu" button, arrows (up/down/left/right), and select, up front for the DVD player like there is on the rear detachable remote. Why on Earth wouldn't you do that? I don't want to watch the movie up front. I just want put in a DVD, get to the menu as quickly as possible (without having to listen to all the stupid previews), and start the first track for my kids in back. I've noticed you can sort of do this by some seemingly random combination of Fast Forward/Rewand, DVD +/-, and DVD play, but it seems to be different for every DVD. The alternative to randomly hitting buttons seems to be leaning way back and cranking your neck (or your front passenger doing this) and doing it with the rear remote while watching the screen. This is dangerous, and involves partially getting out of the seatbelts, etc.. Shouldn't need to do this crap. Stupid design...

Anyone know of a good alternative?

sebring95

One option is to rip/burn your DVD's and only burn the feature presentation. That way when you insert the disc, it immediately starts playing the video.

There's also a hack for playing the DVD on the front screen. I did this the hard way a year or so ago (made my own box and spliced everything). There's now several companies that make plug-n-play kits for a couple hundred bucks that will do the same thing.

My wife has a DVD system in her Lexus and it will play up front if you're in Park and have the brake set. Still not convenient. The Honda system is pretty good, but it's pretty annoying trying to control it from the front when the kids aren't old enough to figure it out on their own.

nnn12345

My 2005 Odyssey with 30,000 miles on it has become hard to steer. 3 different people have driven the car and all agree that it is very different than it used to be. You need to have 2 hands on the wheel at all times, and it takes an effort to turn the wheel especially when parking. Brought it to the dealer twice -- they claim everything is fine, and within specs. Claim that there are no computer codes coming up, and they tested the amount of pounds it takes to turn the wheel and said it was all within specifications. I am not very happy with this situation, in fact i now hate to drive the car at all. It used to be quite a nice driver up to a couple of months ago. Different tires make no difference. ANY SUGGESTIONS APPRECIATED.

bobber1

Sounds like the power steering pump has quit or your low on fluid.

vrm

This is not a 100% guarantee, but I recommend it since its inexpensive and may solve your problem:

Flush your Power Steering fluid. Sometimes there are small metal shavings which contaminate the fluid. Depending on how the "flush" is done, it may not remove ALL of the old fluid. But even if they get 90% of the old fluid thats a good start.

Please let us know and post any updates on your situation.

bamapt

My rear door/liftgate will not stay up on our recently out of warranty '05. I guess the shocks or struts on there are worn out. Looks like it would be pretty easy to fix/DIY but just wondering if anyone else has had a problem and could maybe point me towards a cheap online parts store.

allison5

I just finished testing a touring model on the odyessy. I have test driven the odyessy many times and in the past I have never driven the touring just because I thought that it was too expensive and didn't need those extra items. However I noticed that the touring was much more comfy than the EX.L for my back. The leather doesn't seem any different but I definatly noticed the seats seeming to be better. I also noticed that it rode nicer/quieter than the other model. Is any of this true? I was quite surprised. Thanks ahead of time.

sebring95

Shouldn't be any difference in seats....they're identical although I believe the touring gets a power passenger seat.

It's possible they ride nicer/quieter as the PAX tires are a little different (although the tread pattern is pretty much the same) and the suspension includes some heavier duty parts to off-set the additional unsprung weight of the PAX.

It also could depend upon the roads you're driving. Certain roads are very quiet, others (especially concrete) is very loud. I drove both Touring and EX-L models back-to-back on the same roads back in 2005 and didn't notice any notable differences. We went EX-L because we needed the 8th seat.

cccompson

The seats are the same. There is no power passenger seat in the Touring (unfortunately). My dad's '06 EX-L rides noticeably better than my '05 Touring. The noise level is the same.

macskc

My 05 EXL had all 4 tires replaced last summer by dealer due to tires being "out of round". New tires have 14K miles and had them rotated and balanced last week. High speeds produced same shake as a year ago with new set of tires. Took car to independent tire retailer and was told the 2 back tires are out of round again! How is this possible ? Is there something with the suspension or wheels that could be creating this problem ? There must be some explanation for 2 completely different sets of tires, manufactured 20 months apart acting the same way. HELP!!!

dsrtrat2

I once had a wheel that was not true. New wheel took care of the problem.

I don't think there is nearly as much quality control anywhere any more. It is left up to the consumer. Rag on the tire dealer a lot more. I bot some new tires that they could not balance to my satisfaction, and they finally replaced the offending tire which took care of the problem.

yiqin

Hi, I had a 2005 odyssey, and I suspect that the ABS is malfunctioning. When I push the brake hard at moderate speed (30-40 mph) at full loard (6 to 7 passengers), I notice the ABS is activating, and the stop distance is a lot longer. However, If I brake slowly, the stop distance is actually shorter. Is it normal that when the ABS is activated, the stop distance is longer? This doesn't make sense to me. Please comments and advise. Thanks.

calthi

I bought my 2007 Odyssey last November and I am not very impressed already because I only put on about 4 KM and I had to bring to the Dealer's shop a few times already. First time they had to change the strut as they said it was leaking because it was making noise when I turned left. I bought it in the second time as it is still making a small noise when I turn left slowly again. The noise is not consistent though and they said they could not find out anything wrong. Took the test drive with the foreman and he said he found nothing wrong with it and there was nothing he could not do. (: Now, I have to bring it in again for a wheel alignment. Not sure if anyone has these same problem.

I bought a couple new vehicles from Toyota before I've never experienced any of these things before.

Don't think, I will buy anything from Honda again. I was thinking of calling Honda Canada to express my unsatisfaction but not sure where to call.

robr2

Is it normal that when the ABS is activated, the stop distance is longer?

Yes that is normal. ABS is designed to modulate the brakes to allow you to maintain control and steer around the object. Without ABS, your stopping distance is shorter because you are applying maximum force but you lose steering control.

But I question why your ABS is coming on at all. Is this on a slick or bumpy surface?

yiqin

Thank you very much for your reply.

The ABS activated if I hit the brake hard after exit from highway with full load (5-6 passengers plus some baggages). The surface was actually very good and dry. I had this happens several times.

i had bring my van to the dealer before, but the dealer told me everything was normal. Should I bring the van to the dealer again and ask why ABS activated on dry, paved surface?

Thanks a lot for your help!
Yiqin

sebring95

It's quite possible for the ABS to activate on dry pavement. It really depends on a lot of things: how hard you're braking, loose stone/sand in the roadway, condition of tires. Being as you have an '05, what's the condition of your tires? The OEM tires don't seem to last all that long.

Regardless, could you clarify a few things:

Does the ABS continue to activate all the way until you stop?

You say it happens when exiting a highway, but at 30-40mph. Do you hit the brakes before to slow down to 30-40mph or are you coasting up until you hit the brakes at 30-40mph? How hard of a stop is this? Does it only do this with a full load of passengers?

ABS is a rather simple operation and typically what your describing wouldn't occur unless the tires are indeed locking (or very close to locking).

jmcdermott48

My 2006 Odyssey has an issue where the front end vibrates when braking while going down steep grades (Colorado Mountains). The dealer could not find an issue. They say the pads and rotors are fine. Most recently, there has been a "grinding" sound also. The grinding comes and goes. The dealer says it may be related to heat. I did not have this issue with my 2002 Odyssey.

Any ideas? Should I have the rotors turned or replaced?

zebra5

The lower glovebox on my '06 Odyssey won't close properly - like a two inch gap. It feels like something is jamming, but I can't see anything. I recall several issues noted in this forum early on about gaps in the glovebox (I understood them to be more like minor fit & finish issues). Before I take this back to the dealer, has anyone else had or seen problems with the glovebox closing??

cccompson

The glovebox gap issue on the current Odysseys concerns the fit of the upper glovebox door. Haven't heard any reports with problems on the the lower ones.

homerody

Hi all

I am new to this group. In February my hubby and I bought a used 2005 Midnight Blue Honda Odyssey EXL with 30K miles on it. Haven't had a problem with it until last month when the VSA and the ! light came on. Took it to dealer and they said it was a "loose wire" all was fine until 2 weeks ago. Last Friday had van all day at dealership, techs said he got lots of codes and didn't know what the problem was. I needed the van back so we made an appointment for today (monday) they had the van ALL day long, said it was a loose wire again, said it was fixed. Got the van back and it wasn't 30 mins and the light was back on again!! My husband drove back over to the dealership, right into the service bay and showed them the problem.. They are covering it under warranty since we had the first issue under the warranty, and now the warranty is gone. They gave us a rental and they have our van.. who knows when we will get it back... this stinks.. anyone had a problem with the vsa??
thanks so much!

JJ

mrs_meast

I have a 2005 Odyssey EX with 33k miles on it. Recently when I am driving through shallow puddles, I loose power steering, the battery light comes on and the engine stutters. I took it to the dealership and the technician told me this was an Odyssey thing and that water is getting in the belts causing the engine to stall. He inspected the belts, brakes and the whole undercarriage of the van and said they were fine. He said that all the Odysseys do it and its not a problem. However, today I almost got into an accident because of this and I feel it is an unsafe problem. Has anybody else experienced this? Thanks!!!

bradah

Hello All,

I currently have an '04 Odyssey and as you know it is a 7 passenger vehicle. We might be having a 6th child soon so would need to upgrade to a current Odyssey EX. My question is whether this truly is an 8 (adult) passenger vehicle. Or are we talking a few kids in there. In addition, with a full van like that ..... what kind of room is there left over for bringing stuff along (camping, etc.).

I was in a conversation with someone that also had six children. She told me that when the 6th was born they went out and got a Ford 15 passenger. They said the room is wonderful, etc. It was wierd because when I went outside to leave....her van was sitting right next to an '07 Odyssey. Quite a difference is size........AND POSSIBLY QUALITY. I've not have any problems with my Honda and wonder if it would be worth down grading for additional room.

Any way, any insight is appreciated.

dsrtrat2

I have had 8 adults in my EX-L for a couple of hours. The smallest adult was in the jump seat. All of the room behind the back seat is still usable.

My sub-teen grandkids like to sit in the jump seat and seem to comfortable with it.

Some of those upmteen passenger vans do not have good safety records.

cccompson

Mine's never done that but, then again, I know better than to drive through standing water because there is the possibility with any vehicle that doing so will stall it.

cccompson

Minivans aren't meant for maxi-families such as yours.

bradah

Yes.....technically that is probably true. However, as the coach of the New England Patriots always says, "It is what it is".........

So, I'll have to do something. The issue of safety is a concern. Those passsenger vans seem like a big box on wheels.......

Maybe I'll just get a small Honda Civic and keep the Odyssey....... then take two cars when the whole family needs to head out somewhere.

mrs_meast

Let me clarify. Standing water = 1/2 inch deep puddles.

cccompson

At that depth all that could have happened was that water was splashed by your tire(s) onto the accessory drivebelt.
It happens.

stickguy

You can get a FS van without going all the way up to the 15 pass. stretch model. Those are the ones that get dangerous.

I think a standard WB Ford has 2 back rows, so easily carry 6 kids, with plenty of cargo room to boot? Not sure if you can get 3 rows in the rear without going to a stretch.

The FS ones, even with 2 back rows, have more width so you fit better, plus are much better designed to handle the loads. An Odyssey with 8 people, stuffed full of luggage, is going to be dragging and sucking wind more than a ford E150.

Plus, the FS can also pull a trailer much easier, and if you are taking 6 kids on a vacation, you just might need one!

sebring95

I don't know that I would say it's for 8 adults. I've had three adults across the 2nd row, and while it works it's not the most comfortable setup. About like putting three adults in the back of a Civic in terms of width. However, it's a perfectly comfortable seat for kids well into their early teens assuming they're not going down the obese route like a lot of kids these days.

I have heard that the 8-pax Sienna is has a lot more width but only comes in a lower trim models.

We previous had a Tahoe (which could seat 9) and it was decent on pax space but low on cargo room. The Suburban has far more cargo space and can also be had in a 9-pax version. That's the route I would go over a full-size van, in fact my wife preferred the Tahoe to the Odyssey except for the few times we take on gobs of passengers. She would have preferred we went with the Suburban but I wanted to try the Odyssey. The full-size vans are pretty much low-tech, low-rent because they sell in rather small numbers. They've actually put some effort into the Suburbans and it shows.

ikjae

I bought a 2007 Odyssey EXL a week ago, and then within a week, it started showing the Check Engin and VSA malfunctioning lamps together. And with those lamps on, the cruise control didn't work, ECO (VCM) didn't work, and most importantly, on a uphill road, the car sometimes rattled severely, not driving appropriately (I got that twice in a day, and was freaked out).

I brought the car to the dealer and they figured they have to order a part called "v-tech oil pressure solenoid"...

My questions are 1) how can I make sure this issue has not damaged my car at all? 2) can this be considered as a lemon so that I can get protected by a lemon law?? What's the range of the lemon law?

Did anyone have a similar experience? Suggestion?

Thanks.

stickguy

no, it would only be a lemon if it met certain criteria, like being out of service for a certain period of time, or not being able to be fixed in 3 tries.\

Hard to say if anything was damaged. You will probably know once they make the repair. Most likely you won't be able to tell there ever was a problem, and if there were any consequences, Honda will have to make them right too.

Certainly a bummer with a new car, but sometimes parts fail. Give the dealer a chance to fix it, and see what happens.

dsrtrat2

Keep all your paper work and a good accounting of everything, just in case there is a problem down the road.

American Honda seems to be taking pretty good care of owners with legitimate problems.

mm515

My problem is that the rear door latch on one of the automatic doors is broken and the door will not stay shut. Does anyone know how I can replace/repair this problem?

cccompson

If the door will not shut when the power to the door is turned off, then it is likely a latch problem. Carefully inspect both the latch and striker to see if adjustment of either (or both) might cure the problem. If that doesn't work, you're into replacing broken part(s).

dzuba

42K miles on mine and running well..........just wondering how many miles people are getting out of their "Run-Flat PAX" tires...........and how much are the replacements, apparently only sold at Honda?

cccompson

You may currently hold the record for longest PAX life. Mine are still good at 32K and should last at least until 40.

I shopped 4 Honda stores in Central Ohio recently and got quotes ranging from $995 to $1600 for a set of four installed.

2005odyelrn

I bought this on 4/2005. Around 4/2006 after 6k miles and one oil change, I noticed the leak on garage floor. I gave to the dealer. He kep it for a week and replaced the pan and said it was fixed. I was pissed. since I didnot think it would take that long to replace the pan and gasket.
It leaked with in 1 week. Different dealer and same story. He kept it for a week and same thing. Pan and gasket replaced.
Leak with in 3 days. Now I sent a letter to Honda as per Lemon law requirements. Honda customer service was atrocious! they simply did not care. They just phoned the local dealer service mgr and asked him to take care of it. That is all. Even after the lemon law letter same thing. The CSR assigned for case would not call me. She calls, not at all aplogetic for the problems I am facing.
Now after the letter and svc mgr involvement, they kept for 10 days. Did the die job. Said it was permanent. The tech showed me the TSB about short block being porous in casting. etc... IT was ok for a while. Went to the other dealer got it checked.. they are not at all friendly and un-helpful.
Year later, around 17k miles, after the oil change, same problem. This time more oil leak. I called and complained to honda. They said I will get a call with in next 3-4 days from the regional guy... 3-4 days????

I will follow-up with lemon lawyer on monday. This is 4th or 5th time they kept for more than a week... The engine is now very coarse. Vibrate a lot. Gives rediculous mileage. 18mpg???

Any thoughts?

Thanks

mica71

Hey Erin,

Same issue here. Grinding was there early on and I got the old brush off at the dealer- "that is a characteristic of hydraulic brakes". A couple of months ago I decided to go back and try to get an acceptable response to my complaint and I got the same old crapola. Now I am dealing with Honda to try to resolve the issue. I also have a vibration now, when I drive around 70. I just had the tires replaced and balanced so I now it's not that. Anyway, you are not the alone.

robr2

...they went out and got a Ford 15 passenger. They said the room is wonderful, etc...AND POSSIBLY QUALITY.

IMHO, those Ford E series vans are probably one of the most reliable vehicles on the road. They have been using the same design for about 25 years which typically translates into reliabilty because nothing has changed.

Also, there's a reason why delivery, construction, trade companies buy these vehicles - the big stuff doesn't break and what does break is cheap to fix. These vans are designed to last hundreds of thousands of miles with low operating and repair costs.

Another alternative is the Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter vans. Expensive to buy and expensive to maintain but cheap to operate and they have a bit more comfort.

graystrickland

Another alternative is the Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter vans. Expensive to buy and expensive to maintain but cheap to operate and they have a bit more comfort.

There is also a Mercedes Benz Sprinter (same van) if you want some bling for your bigride.

There are even customized Sprinters available. (example 1 example 2 example 3)

msibille

I've been away for a l-o-n-g time, so I've searched but don't see anything addressing this.

The 2006 LX does not have the full maint minder of the EX+, but has only an Oil Life Indicator. The manual only speaks of the maint items in groups, which are ref in the (EX) maint minder alerts. But for us LX owners- has anyone seen info on maint intervals for items other than oil/filter.

[BTW- I wouldn't put much faith in the oil life indicator. My experience w/ the 1st oil change at 5k I had a UOA done which showed the oil was tired, that 5k is an appropriate interval -at least for her driving. The OLI showed 30% life remaining. No way I'd go another 2100 mi on the oil in that analysis. Until I see a UOA that shows differently, I'll stick w/ oil/filter at 5k/6months.]

lc1107

The front brake pads on the 05 and some 06 or out of speck . Honda is replacing the front pads and turning the front rotors , no charge .I had the same problem with my brakes . Economy Honda in Chattanooga TN fixed mine and it makes a big difference .

msibille

Do you happen to have a TSB reference, or is there a (limited range of VIN) recall?

jimbob1

>>>>>>Do you happen to have a TSB reference, or is there a >>>>>>(limited range of VIN) recall?

It is Service Bulletin 06-024, dated May 26, 2006.

All 2005s are covered, and two different VIN ranges of the 2006s.
5FNRL38..6B000001 - 6B106388
5FNRL38..6B400001 - 6B443036

iffi

Hi all,

I am in the market to buy a mini van and Odyssey is my top choice. I want to get a 2-3 year old van. I had been thinking of getting a 2005, but after reading many of the issues with 2005 on this forum, I am wondering if it is better for me to buy a 2004 or 2005. Suggestions that compare the two would be very much appreciated. Also, would it better for me to buy the bullet and get a 2006, if there is a big difference b/w 2005 and 2006.

Thanks
Iffi

blackexv6

If you can afford it buy a new '07. There are great deals out there right now. I've found that 1 or 2 year old used Hondas are only a couple thousand less than a new one. Check the prices paid forum.

If you go with a used one, I would suggest a '05+ model. The only major problem is the drone defect to watch for. The brakes & rattles are easily fixed with TSB's.

The '04 is essentially 1999 technology & the transmissions are suspect in that generation. The Honda V6 class action settlement doesn't include 2004 so you roll the dice.

Also, the '05+ rides much, much better & is definitely more modern looking inside & out.