Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Gee, you guys are getting morbid. Almost makes me wish for the zero to 60 arguments again!

    Measuring the van for plywood is one thing, but if someone hits the casket showroom with a tape measure and starts comparing carrying capacity of a Grand Caravan to an Ody, we're going to have to ask Mr. Barris for a diversion (link).

    Steve, Host
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    you'd be just tickled pink if we had a 0 to 60 argument about minivan hearse conversions, huh?!? ;-)
  • drwilscdrwilsc Member Posts: 140
    I understand the conversation has turned a little morbid, but wishing for another tired old 0 to 60 argument? You've got to be kidding!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Definitely kidding. Especially since the 30 to 60 on-ramp time is so much more important. :-)

    Steve, Host
  • carzzzcarzzz Member Posts: 282
    Does anyone know if 2005 Ody uses premium fuel, will it produce 265hp with 253lb-ft torque (MDX)?
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    NASCAR would ban it because too much power would tempt soccor moms to drag race to the funeral parlor.
  • mgoldmanmgoldman Member Posts: 1
    I saw one on EBay tonight...olive leather...auction ends 3/6
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Well, Honda does call it the "hot rod" of minivans in its brochure.

    I haven't seen anything to indicate that use of premium fuel would, in fact, bump up the HP.
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    Very nice and quiet on the Interstate just like my 2002 T&C LX but was quieter accelerating than my T&C.
    Driver's seat is more comfortable and has better foot and leg space than my 2002 T&C LX.
    Odyssey 2nd and 3rd row seating more comfortable and better designed than 2005 DC Stow-N-Go. I also think the Ody 60/40 split 3rd row folds into the floor better than DC.
    I would like the Ody EX even more if it had the complete overhead console with outside temperature/compass and trip computer that my T&C LX has.
    The 2005 Odyssey EX will be my 1st choice if we decide to get a new vehicle this year with either Caravan SXT or Grand Caravan SXT 2nd choice. We will never buy anything again but a minivan.
  • donquixotedonquixote Member Posts: 1
    Hello, just purchased a 2005 EX gold color. Feel I got a pretty good deal at $2K under list. So far absofrigginloutly light years away from the 2000 FORD (Found On Road Dead) Windstar ??quality?? we traded in. Any tips to watch for? Is there a good source for accessories at less than retail?(I've already been scanning Ebay) I'm Planning to add fog lights, mud guards, hood wind shield and cross bars.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Congrats. Try the Honda Odyssey Owners- Accessories & Modifications discussion for some links. And there's an H and A ad at the top of the board that's worth checking out.

    Steve, Host
  • bskattojubskattoju Member Posts: 1
    I got a quote for $30,400/- for new EX L Odyssey which includes
    1. 7yrs/100000 ext warnty ( $1150/-)
    2. Mud-flaps
    3. Tray for 3rd row storage area.
    Was it a good offer ?
    Quote is from Detroit area dealer.
    EX L ( with cylinder management, Moon roof, leather etc.,)
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    We have a pricing discussion too - owners post about their recent deals. Here's the link:

    Honda Odyssey: Prices Paid & Buying Experience

    Check out the TMV (True Market Value) info under the New Cars tab here at Edmunds.com too.

    Steve, Host
  • macakavamacakava Member Posts: 775
    I know the feeling!! Felt the same when I got rid of my Winnie for my Ody.

    Don't forget the Honda leather steering wheel cover. It is the best addition you can make to make the Ody more enjoyable(feel to your hands) to drive as your hands would be on the wheel 100% the time (I hope!) :)

    You best bet to buy is the H and A joint whose ad banner appear in this forum frequently.
  • sshyhsshyh Member Posts: 1
    Hey All,

    We received delivery of our 2005 Ody about 10 days ago (we bought it online). We were so happy to have finally landed the car we wanted, in the color we wanted after waiting several months.

    A couple days ago, in the morning while driving to work, I noticed 3 suspicious looking likes come on on the dash. All 3 lights were yellow/orange colored, which I believe indicates a warning of some type, generally not good. I double checked with the users manual and it turns out 2 of the lights are associated with the VSA system (VSA indicator and VSA activation indicator) and the third one is for ABS.

    The manual state to have a honda service guy look at it asap. So we brought it in the next day -- hoping for the best, but essentially conjuring up the worst in our minds. This kinda stuff just doesn't happen with brand new Honda cars!

    After about a half day, my service rep calls me and tells me that the "lights" are associated with specific "codes" for the on-board computer. Wasn't sure exactly what that meant, but essentially, they didn't know how to fix it directly. Their normal way of handling these "code" situations is to take pictures of the appropriate area of the vehicle and send it to Honda the mother company for analysis. Arrrgh, yeah, right -- this is what I want to hear after plopping down 30+ grand on the car. They're not even sure what it is or how to fix it.

    Just wandering if anyone, anyone at all has experienced anything like this with their new Odys. I'm pretty lowerless at this point. Don't know if I could have done anything to have prevented this from happening, just bad luck?

    Thanks for listening...

    -Shawn
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,560
    there are a ton of sensors, etc. that go into the VSA and ABS system. On something so new, may just be a defective piece somewhere. At this point, let the dealer dubug and hopefully find and fix the culprit.

    Yes it is upsetting, but these things happen sometimes. As long as they can fix the problem now, no reason to suspect that it will be a chronic issue.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • sportymonksportymonk Member Posts: 258
    What kind of dealer is it? Is it a large city dealer with a large volume that should have experience or is it a small town dealer who doesn't do a large volume. That may be the difference but still I agree. I am looking to buy a new vehicle because of the problems with my old one. If I want problems I will keep what I got!!!

    The difference between a $5000 Impala and a $30,000+ Honda better be the Honda works properly!

    My sympathies. Are they giving your a loaner in the meantime? They ought to!
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    Has anyone had ocassion to have the stability control kick in? How would you describe it?
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Can't speak to the Odyssey, but on my Sienna, the 'VSC' light flashes and there is an 'alarm' that sounds more like a pleasant chime. The system itself, more than anything, seems to keep me from having to over-correct with the steering wheel. Take your van to a vacant parking lot that's wet or snow covered and practice, so the warning won't surprise you the first time it happens for real.
  • vcarrerasvcarreras Member Posts: 247
    Shawn..there was an Anti-lock brake recall on the first 05's and the notice indicated 3-4 of the lights coming on. I did receive a recall but mine was okay. Let me know what they find. My 05 EX now has 6600 miles and we love it.
  • rsblaskirsblaski Member Posts: 68
    I am just curious. I have checked my owners' manual (2005 Ody Touring) to find out what the recommended oil change interval is.

    All I find is instructions to change the oil when the "maintenance due" light comes on, and that this is governed by overall driving conditions. Am I missing something in the manual?

    I have owned other vehicles with "maintenance reminders" but in all cases, the owners manual made reference to recommended oil change intervals.

    If anyone can reference a time/mileage recommendation, please let me know which page it is on or what your source is.

    Thanks
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    My 2002 Ody developed 240 with Premium and got better mileage, but 210 with regular fuel.

    I suspect that the EPA figures are generated with premium fuel, and will be a bit less with regular.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    The touring has an oil life minder does it not? If so, it is analyzing your driving habits and will tell you when to change the oil.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    I think what robr2 is saying is that there is NO specific recommended oil change interval listed in the Owner's manual.

    But if Honda really recommended oil change intervals (say 5k), would it be better for them to RELY on the owners actually reading their owner's manuals, or simply program the maintenance light to come on every 5k miles?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,560
    the indicator comes on when the car decides it is ready. There is also an oil life indicator that shows % of oil life left.

    I thought the manual said to do it at least annually even if the ligt doesn't come on.

    But, it isn't going to hurt anything to do it sooner (say every 5K), except for your wallet.

    I myself tend to change early, just for peace of mind, but am being patient to see when the Ody calls for it. We are at about 70%left at 1,700 miles, 3 months old.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • sportymonksportymonk Member Posts: 258
    Finally got wife's schedule and mine so we could test drive a Pilot and an Ody.

    Ody Positives. Drove and handled great. Went through sharp turns car like (although not like my low and wide Impala). Quite, no noticeable defects.

    Negatives- Wife and I disliked the arm rests on an EX-L. Narrow and uncomfortable. She didn't like the size of the steering wheel. Said it felt smaller than she was used to. Me - I couldn't get the seat to pedal to steering wheel to fit comfortably. When the pedals were right, the steering wheel felt too far away. Had this urge to pull the wheel closer. When I got the wheel right, my knees were too close and upright. May try again but I wasn't wowed. When we sat in one a week ago, and I raised the lumbar support, it felt too pronounced. When I returned the lumbar support to its original position, it didn't seem to go back all the way.

    Wife and I agreed, if we don't like the way it fits, don't buy it. BTW I am 5'10" 205 pounds. Pants length 31, shirt arm length 34. But I do like a more reclined driving position. My I've read too many complaints in Edmunds?

    My comments for the Pilot will be in the Pilot thread.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    The adjustable pedals in the Touring model might, just might, help it to fit better. Also, you might go back and play with the seat adjustment a couple of more times. For whatever reason, like you, I was initially put off but repeated sittings enabled me become more comfortable.

    I agree with your comments about the lumbar adjustment and it baffles me as to why it is like that and now I just leave it inactive. You're also right that the steering wheel is a bit too far away (I'm 6-4 with a 37 inch sleeve) although, at least for me, it is livable.

    I just went out and measured - the Pilot steering wheel is 15 and one-half inches in diameter while the Odyssey's wheel is about 15 inches. At most there is three-quarters of an inch difference between them.

    The last generation Odyssey could be fitted with a larger driver's right armrest (with a storage compartment) as an accessory but, alas, it reportedly does not directly fit the '05. There seems to be a markt for this product so it seems possible (I hope!) that if Honda doesn't eventually offer one, someone else will.
  • xenegxeneg Member Posts: 1
    Shawn,
    I just bought a new CRV two weeks ago and on the way home from the dealer the ABS, VSA and a third light (warning triange with exclamation point inside) came on. Went back to dealer and they got a code that they didn't recognize but told me it had cleared and everything was ok. On way home, after about two miles the lights came on again so they agreed to replace the longitudinal G sensor yesterday. On the way home the lights came on again. (They had been coming on after a few miles every time I drove the car, but would clear when I turned the car off) Anyway, now they are telling me it's a "wire" and that they will troubleshoot it. I am waiting for a call from the general manager at the dealership because I don't want them tearing the car apart piece by piece especially when they sound like they're really not sure what the cause is. Not sure what recourse I have but to give them another shot at fixing before exploring the lemon law. I know this is for a different car but I thought you might find it helpful. Let me know how you make out and I will do the same if you're interested.
    xeneg
  • moses7moses7 Member Posts: 25
    Hi sshyh,
    Same thing happened to my EX with less than 200 miles. Then back to the Dealer where they cannibalized a part from a new one on the lot and installed it. So far so good :~(
  • denver5357denver5357 Member Posts: 319
    "Negatives- Wife and I disliked the arm rests on an EX-L. Narrow and uncomfortable."

    We thought that about all the minivans. I guess the armrests are made with the intent to lift them so you can have easier access to the second row or something. I first noticed the skinny arm rests in the Chrysler T&C, then noticed all the minivans have them.
  • ruerue Member Posts: 1
    had the same problem, change the modulator too.This should get rid of your problem
  • granegrane Member Posts: 3
    Hi Fellow Odyssey Owners,

    I have a real bad feeling. I purchased an LX about a month ago. When we start it after its been sitting an hour or 2 it makes a 1 second noise when turning the key as it is starting. It's like a grinding or whirring, real quick, almost like a diesel start. If I quickly turn it off and start again the sound is gone. Dealer looked at it and tells me it is normal. He claims he started other Odysseys on lot and they make the same noise cold. Honda of America seems to believe the dealer and is doing nothing for me. I feel like I am getting runaround from both dealer and Honda. Please tell me, do you hear this in yours on cold starts? I sincerely doubt it as I doubt engineers would be okay with this sound. Also, I am sure Honda would have heard complaints about this already, which they say they have not. Also, what are my options if neither Honda or dealer helps me?

    Thanks in advance.

    Chris
  • rsblaskirsblaski Member Posts: 68
    Chris,
    You state that the dealer claims he started others on the lot and they made the same noise. Why don't you go out on the lot with him and see if this is, in fact, true? If it is, then I wouldn't be concerned. If he's lying, contact HOA personally.

    It would be wise to have another person witness this as well so it doesn't turn into a he said-he said type of thing.
  • granegrane Member Posts: 3
    This is their suggestion, which is the next step. But does anyone else out there hear this? I just find it difficult to believe that it is a normal sound.
  • rand01rand01 Member Posts: 75
    Never heard this noise before from our Odyssey!
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    I don't own an Ody, but on a lot of cars you will be able to hear the electric fuel pump getting up to speed before you kick in the starter. If you flip the switch slowly, you will have more time to hear it. If you flip it quickly to engage the starter, the same thing is happpening, it just gets disguised by the starter noise.

    My guess is it is nothing to worry about. Don't be too paranoid about every little noise you hear, you have a lot of warranty left on a brand new vehicle if it does develop into a functional problem.
  • piggopiggo Member Posts: 1
    While shopping for an Odyssey today we asked a service manager about scheduled maintenance. Honda recommends every 3500 miles that you "replace oil" (A service). Every other oil change (B service):
    .. rotate the tires
    .."replace oil and filter"
    ..check brakes
    ..check parking parking brake
    ..inspect tie rod ends, steering box, and gearbox boots
    ..inspect suspension
    ..inspect drive shaft boots
    ..inspect brake hoses and lines including VSA
    ..inspect fluid levels and condition of fluids
    ..inspect exhaust system
    ..inspect fuel lines and connections

    Adjust valves during services if they are noisy.
    Inedpendent of the maintenance messages in the multi-information display, replace brake fluid every 3 years.

    Hope that this helps...
  • jjrjrjjrjr Member Posts: 1
    Where do you get that extended warranty? Dealer? Local? Internet? 6/100K for $995 is about $50 better than anything I've found.
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    Probably premature, but I'm wondering what might be different in the '06s. Maybe the VCM engine in the EX? Any clues from anyone?
  • jeffs3jeffs3 Member Posts: 14
    I bought splash guards for my '05 EX-L. I want to install them myself and I need something cleared up from the installation instructions.

    On the rear splash guard installation on a vehicle equipped with an inner fender, do you re-use the inner fender or discard it?

    It doesn't say what to do in the instructions. It seems that the rear splash guard could either replace the inner fender or overlap it. Has anyone else here tried to install the splash guards? If so do you know what I'm talking about?
    Thanks,
    -Jeff
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    The splash guard should overlap the existing structure (at least it does on every Honda I've ever seen).
  • jeffs3jeffs3 Member Posts: 14
    "The splash guard should overlap the existing structure (at least it does on every Honda I've ever seen)."

    On the front splash guards that's definately true, but on the rear splash guards it's not clear.

    Could someone check the instructions from the honda accessories website posted at the top and give me their best interpretation of what to do with the rear inner fender pictured in step #7?

    http://www.handa-accessories.com/odyssey/05odysplashguards.pdf

    Thanks again,
    -Jeff
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Well, I was wrong, jeffs3. I looked at the instructions and examined my Touring model (which is equipped with splash guards). There is nothing behind (or under) its rear splash guards other than at the mounting points.

    The instructions are clear - you are to remove the rear inner fender if the vehicle is so equipped. Unfortunately, the instructions do not depict this part. The rear splash guard replaces and supplements this piece.
  • jeffs3jeffs3 Member Posts: 14
    Thank you....
  • jondy1jondy1 Member Posts: 1
    I just purchase a Ody 2005 Touring w/Nav. My wife and I test drove the T&C, Sienna and Quest. Conclusion the Ody was the best. I went for the power adjustable pedals and memory seat. I am 5'10" 220 lbs and my wife is 5'1". Adjustment was key to our purchase. Lumber support was not to my liking but I could live with it. My wife loves it. I keep telling her she need to grow up to about 5'6". Also I purchase out of state through the web. A suggestion that help me, use autotrader. They list all the Honda dealer by miles from you location. Determine your radius. It will list by model their inventory. When you find what you want sent them a email. I got an excellent deal. Also Honda sells were down 7% in the month of Feb. They may we willing to deal to get them back up. Hope this helps.
  • sportymonksportymonk Member Posts: 258
    The Tourings Adjustable pedals may help but I do not want a touring with the Pax Tires, they are a show stopper.
  • dilbertzzzdilbertzzz Member Posts: 190
    You aren't buying the anthem, "All we are saying, is give Pax a chance"? ;-)
  • granegrane Member Posts: 3
    I went to dealership on Saturday and started 2 Odysseys. No startup noise. But it was only me and some kid.....service dept. was closed. Hopefully HOA will help me out but I really doubt it. My case rep at HOA seems to side with dealer. Also, my case rep has yet to call me even once. I have to call him. The jury is still out but I'm thinking Toyota next time.
  • bobbobobobbobo Member Posts: 8
    Is it possible to reprogram the remote so it unlocks all doors on a single push rather than first the driver door, then the rest?
  • jyatesjyates Member Posts: 1
    We just bought a 2005 Odyssey. We generally like it but have two issues:

    (1) There is a clunking under the gas pedal right after we start the van up and reach 12 miles per hour. Is this the ABS kicking in? Is this normal?

    (2) I do not believe we are getting the gas mileage around town that we are suppose to be getting. Anyone else having this experience?
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