Honda Odyssey 2005+

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,545
    get a new 2006 EX-L for ~29Kish with some leg work, and be better off.

    The '05 is already out of warranty entirely, and that's way too many miles, especially on a first year design.

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  • pjsjrpjsjr Member Posts: 4
    YOU CAN GET A NEW 2006 EX-L FOR $28K PLUS TAX. tHEY ARE DEALING PRETTY NICELY RIGHT NOW. THE EX-L YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MAY BE WORTH IF IT HAS REAR ENT. SYSTEM AND NAVIGATION. WITHOUT THOSE OPTIONS THE PRICE IS WAY TO HIGH.
  • ClairesClaires Member Posts: 1,219
    pjsjr, it's a good idea not to type in all caps -- it makes people think you're yelling at them :-)

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  • microflitemicroflite Member Posts: 1
    I bought a 2006 Ex-L w/RES/NAV for invoice (31,683) plus
    TTL (SF bay area). Its slate green with an olive interior.

    We already have a similar colored 98 Sienna but went for the slate
    green cuz the olive interior is so classy. Just love the
    feel inside. Have driven it around a little and love it.
    Only problem I had was I played around with the voice
    controls and the nav so long that the battery died (it
    did not drain all the way but the engine wouldnt start).
    Had to jump start it from my sienna. Once the batt died,
    the NAV wouldnt work without a security code and I had to dig out
    the info from the manual that the code was listed on
    a card with the other documentation)

    Its amazing how well the voice controls work. I thought
    it would be a gimmick but no, its really useful. Still
    havent figured it out all tho.

    Only negative thing is my wife and I (and 2 kids) are not
    splurgers and we feel really guilty driving this
    big/overly luxurious vehicle. However I bought it for
    the safety and reliability more than anything else and
    try to drive as economically as possible, speaking of
    which this beast has momentum! Once u accelerate to a particular speed, you can coast with your foot off the
    gas pedals for a long time which I do when I approach
    lights. I feel really bad braking and wasting all that
    energy! You would've thought there would be a way to save
    all that energy wasted and resuse it like they do in the
    hybrids. Engineers unite! and solve this problem! Perhaps
    this is not the forum but how about using big mainsprings
    like those in old mechanical watches and winding up the
    springs on braking so we could use the stored energy
    for the subsequent acceleration?? :) Just kidding.

    Enjoy your vehicles everyone and drive 'econ'omically.
  • cjo87cjo87 Member Posts: 35
    Thanks to all for your insights. Price could come down a bit, but not much in this area. Prices throughout this area remain at or about MSRP right now...but I'm not in a rush either. Also not sold on the VCM technology, so will probably try for a lower price on a regular EX. Appreciate the advice.
  • khoakhoa Member Posts: 64
    Whoa, what area are you in? I'm in OH and got my 06 for invoice back in Nov 05.
  • cjo87cjo87 Member Posts: 35
    Central PA - high demand, lower supply...unless I want to start traveling the state. Don't have the time for that, and its not a "must have" yet.

    Where in OH? Could be worth it in the future.
  • raduzraduz Member Posts: 5
    Does anyone know whether and how Honda fixed the transmission problems on 2005+ oddysey? i am looking for a new minivan. I have a 2002 odyssey that needed a new tranny at 65000miles despite being "fixed" by the recall. I still like honda better than the sienna but the transmission issue bothers me. please let me know if you have heard anything. thank you
  • khoakhoa Member Posts: 64
    Central OH, where about 1 in 5 family in the suburb has a van. I'd question the lower-supply since demand is high here and supply is plenty too.
  • cjo87cjo87 Member Posts: 35
    Here there is one small Honda dealer within an hour radius, with one of each model on the lot and most inbound vans already sold. There is some wiggle room on pricing, but not much. Could bargain against other makes, but those dealers are notoriously bad and this one has a stellar reputation for after the sale service.
  • jimbob1jimbob1 Member Posts: 70
    >>Central PA - high demand, lower supply...unless I want >>to start traveling the state. Don't have the time for >>that, and its not a "must have" yet.

    >>Where in OH? Could be worth it in the future.

    You might try Faulkner Honda in Harrisburg. I've heard/read some good things about their internet sales dept.
  • vrmvrm Member Posts: 310
    Folks:

    I am in the market for a new minivan. Safey is a big priority for me.

    Reading the reviews of the 2006 Kia Sedona, I dont see why I should even consider the Honda Ody.

    I have NOT test driven the 2006 Sedona. Any feedback or opinions are welcome.
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    vrm,

    I think you should test drive all vehicles before buying.

    You have a long list of vehicles: Toyota, Chrysler/Dodge, Honda, Ford, GM. The new Kia (and its Hyundai clone), on paper, is very good (most powerful, roomy, safety equipments). So it has an impressive list of hardwares and relatively lower price. This is a first Kia model year (new engine, platform, transmission,...) however. In addition, Hyundai/Kia engines are not known for fuel efficiency. So their bigger engine may tax you at the gas pump more. On the Honda, this is its second year of production. Hopefully, most of major Model Year 05 bugs are taken care of by now.

    But try them all because 25K-30K is a lot of money.

    jt
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    While it is true that the Kia was voted best in class by the IIHS, the Honda Odyssey is a close second (the difference was in rear impact where the Sedona was rated "Good" and the Odyssey rated "Marginal". Otherwise frontal offset, and side impact scores were identical). Looking at the NHTSA (www.safecar.gov) the Sedona and Odyssey get identical safety ratings (excellent all around), so no advantage there.

    There is another factor to safety that you need to consider and that is reliability. While Hyundai/Kia has made great strides with quality, features, and safety the verdict is still out on reliability. In fact, the 2005 Kia Sedona (previous generation) was voted "Worst Bet" minivan by Consumer Reports this year due to the number of problems reported. Brakes were a constant issue with the previous generation Sedona, and that to me is a safety concern.

    That said, you should definitely drive the Sedona. I liked the van and thought the features were very nice, it was as quick off the line as the Odyssey, but I found the van to have some torque steer, handling was worse than the Odyssey, and the transmission was not very smooth (try flooring it while you are going 45-55mph. The van I tested could not seem to figure which gear it wanted). I also found the overall fit and finish to be good, but not as good as Toyota and Honda. The turning radius on the Sedona was not as good as Honda or Toyota. One other thing that I did not like was the fact that the middle seats do not move sideways (they do tumble forward very easily, but I liked the fact that I could move the Odyssey's seats to the side if needed, and also liked the extra seat option in the Odyssey).

    The other factor is price, and truth be told the Odyssey EX-L I bought last week was actually slightly cheaper than the two quotes I received for the Kia Sedona with luxury and power packages. If you decide to go with the Kia I would recommend waiting another 6-12 months for reliability ratings, and prices to drop (incentives). Hyundai/Kia has a history of offering massive incentives about one year into a model release. I also would factor in resale as another issue. No van holds its value like the Odyssey. Do your research, the Sedona will most likely lose about 3-4K easily the minute you drive it off the lot, and about 10K in the first year or two. I have a friend looking to trade in his 04 Odyssey for only $1500 less than he paid for it on an 06 Odyssey...
  • ClairesClaires Member Posts: 1,219
    Hi, vrm,

    The place to discuss the Sedona would be in the Kia Sedona (2006+) topic. Or, if you want to talk about shopping for minivans, try the Minivan Shopping discussion.

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  • luckylouluckylou Member Posts: 308
    We have owned quite a few minivans and test drive a few others , their is nothing out there better than the Honda Odyssey.
    We need AWD vehicle so we are planning to trade-in our 2005 Odyssey for either a Pilot or an MDX.
    The Odyssey has a terrific 6 cylinders engine plenty of passing power and a very long history track. Kia Who ???
    My two bits .
    Lou
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    The transmissions are still bad in the '05 & '06 Odysseys. The transmission will be modified in 2007 with a stronger unit similar to the Ridgeline & Pilot's. I would wait to buy a 2007 if you can. Also, all the '05 & '06 Odys have a really loud droning noise at 2000 rpm that Honda will not fix.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Not all - my '05 Touring has no such "droning."

    Nor have I seen any evidence whatsoever that third generation transmissions are "bad" (which is not say that problems won't crop up - the ones in the second generation didn't start going bad until about 40K).
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    My 06 EX-L does not seem to have this "droning" issue either. So far, it has been the quietest vehicle I have ever owned.

    Very happy so far.. I am with you on the transmissions, I visit other Odyssey websites and so far the current generation Odysseys seem to be okay. As you stated, this could change down the road, but the Odyssey does have a 5yr/60K mile warranty that covers the transmission. I feel pretty safe...
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    Our 05 EX-L also does not have the 'droning' issue reported by a few posters either. On a recent round trip between Austin and Dallas, my dad and I both noted that by far the most noise in the van was tire noise (seemed to be very susceptible to variations in pavement condition). Both wind noise and drivetrain noise were nonfactors.

    After reading about the 'droning' issue a few months back, I started paying much closer attention to any odd noises coming from the drivetrain (particularly paranoid about the transmission given issues related to previous generation Odysseys). Nothing. Nada. Zilch. I can't detect any odd noises at ANY of the rpms noted by others.

    Are some folks experiencing 'droning'? I'm sure a few folks have SOME odd noises coming from the drivetrain. But to extrapolate the experiences of a handful of owners into a statement like "all 05 and 06 Odysseys have droning" is IMO intellectually dishonest.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    I agree you in the fact that this issue does not seem to affect every single Odyssey. I read about this problem on this board and was trying my hardest to hear it when I was comparison shopping. Neither my wife or I could hear this "droning" sound on either of the two test drives we did (different vehicles each time) or on the van we purchased. I am sure that some folks have an issue, but it seems to be affecting only certain people (for the record, we only drove the EX-L models when test driving). Maybe Honda fixed the issue as my van was produced in late March 06.

    The only "weird" noise I have heard is the ABS check that occurs (around 15-20mph) after the van has been sitting. I am already used to it (my wife did not even notice it and she is the primary driver) and this is nothing compared to the rattles and other issues I have experienced over the years.

    So far, I am very happy with the Odyssey. Hoping that my gas mileage improves over time (currently averaging 18.6MPG on the first tank of gas in 80/20 (city/highway) driving with the A/C on most of the time.
  • 330blast330blast Member Posts: 49
    Hi there,

    I have had my 06 EX for 9 months. Recentely I have noticed that sometimes when the engine is off and I opened the power sliding doors, they only open about 3/4 rather than fully opened. Close and reopen does not make any difference. But if I start the engine, everything works as normal. And this only occurs intermittently. Anyone has the similar experience or know what is going on?

    Also, I noticed that the van is quite easy to have its paint chipped. I now have 2 chips that needs touch-up and I can remember anything I have done would have caused the chipping. One is on the tailgate and the other is on the rear bumper, both kind of on a side edge facing inside, not a spot easy to be scratched.
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    have had my 06 EX for 9 months. Recentely I have noticed that sometimes when the engine is off and I opened the power sliding doors, they only open about 3/4 rather than fully opened.

    I had this happened to me when I have the rear windows rolled down 1/2 way. They opened fine when I rolled the windows up.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    Mine does the same thing. I think it is a safety feature :)
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Yep - it's a safety feature. The doors are limited in travel when opening if the windows are rolled down to prevent arms and heads from injury if they are in the open window area.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Ody owners with power sliders will also note that with the gas filler door open, the left slider will not operate using the remote or dash switch. This is again a Honda safety feature. Seems folks blame manufacturers for saving them from themselves? The feature I miss is some audible or visual warning when you try to lock via remote and a door is left open. Most vehicles beep twice or flash the lights, anything to warn you that you forgot something but alas, the Ody does nothing. Forget once and you'll think for a moment that your van was broken into until you don't recall the horn feedback when you pressed lock twice, LOL.

    One seldom found feature is that if you unlock with the remote pressing once, then hold on the second press, all doors unlock and the windows roll down to halfway. Letting go of the open button while they're moving stops them. The reverse isn't true as you must use window switches with the key to position 1 (Acc) or 2 (Run) to put them up again. The reason I mention this is because it ties into the windows down, sliding doors only open 3/4 because of the previously mentioned safety feature.

    Windows or sunroof can be opened or closed 10 minutes after turning off the ignition unless a door is opened. There other 'Easter Egg' features most prevalent on the Touring hidden in the MID (Touring only). We have a Sep built '06 SGM Touring that except for some initial alignment problems is hiccup free in 13K miles.

    Paint chipping is no worse on this vehicle than any other. Lots of objects with higher hardness than paint win when contacting the vehicle. Recognize this is primarily a people mover so it doesn't withstand pickup truck roughness very well.
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    You can also roll up or roll down the windows with the key on the driver side. Flip it to lock, release, then flip it to lock and hold will roll the windows up. THe reverse will roll it down.
  • raduzraduz Member Posts: 5
    Unfortunately I had to buy a van now and since I did not like Sienna I got a 2006 EX. It is replacing a 2003 Accord EX V6 that I totaled.

    As for the humming/dronnig issue it has I think a barely noticeable one at around 2000-2100RPM and sounds more like an engine resonant noise rather than a transmission issue. I had a very similar noise but way more proeminent in my 2003 v6 accord at about 2500RPM and the engine ran just fine, going very smoothly trough it. I tend to belive it is a normal thing, whatever normal means. Maybe some have it louder than others. It used to bother initially in the accord but then i got used to it and the car would run so smoothly trough it It did not bother me anymore. In any case in the 2006 Ody I can barely notice it. Interestingly in my 2002 ODY there is no such noise. maybe just coincidence but both engines are improved/pumped up versions of earlier engines 1998 accord and 2002 odyssey.

    my 2006 behaves more like the accord in terms of steering feel and heft (good thing); it also has the intrusive ABS check when you first start the car.

    Again i hope they fixed the transmission, not just with an oil kit (my 2002 tranny went out at 63K despite the recall). Thanks for geting back and hope you find my "honda experience" usefull
  • macskcmacskc Member Posts: 5
    My van's steering wheel just started shaking. I have just under 18k miles on it. The shake gets really bad over 60mph. Any one out there with similar problem or a suggestion ?
    Thanks
  • chirpchirp Member Posts: 194
    Visually check the tires for any unique wear patterns. Is the edge "scalloped" or cupping? Do you check tire pressure on a regular basis and are they always consistent? If no strange wear patterns visible take your van into a tire center and have the tires rebalanced. You may have lost a tire weight and that is causing the shaking. A front end alignment may be necessary, however, an unbalanced condition or uneven tire wear is more likely the culprit.
  • tkm526tkm526 Member Posts: 4
    Is there any way to listen to the radio while you are following a trip on the Nav system?
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    The radio plays as normal. It only lower the volume when the NAV needs to say an instruction, next turn, next exit or something like that. You can set this level to be less detail.
  • keithsmaxxkeithsmaxx Member Posts: 4
    Does the EX-L RES have the ability to play MP3 CD's. I am pretty sure the CD changer can not, but I was wondering if anyone tried them in the DVD player. If yes, can you play the MP3's while the DVD screen is closed.
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    Someone tried it and NO, the DVD player can not play MP3 :cry:
  • plasmoplasmo Member Posts: 16
    Just got our new 06 ODY (RES/NAV) which so far has been great-

    but after adjusting the A/C vents above the 2nd Row seats, the plastic tabs keep popping off (even when gently moving the tabs) and it seems that I need to "snap" the tabs back into place. Having the van for only a few hours, and seeing this happen is concerning. Is this supposed to occur with such little force? (In trying to fix the tabs, I mangaged to accidently pull out several other vent tabs during the process!!!)

    Anyone else encounter this problem?
    Thanks!
  • 4huffs4huffs Member Posts: 4
    Friends:

    I have read this forum for months and have really tried to not post. I am Honda loyalist. I have owned 5 and might own more in the future-depending upon what happens.

    What would you do if:

    -Your windshield moulding had been replaced three times;
    -The window trim now comes loose at 70 MPH
    -Your Power Steering system which had been repaired three times because had been making enough 'screaming and grinding' noise to scare neighbors and church friends into buying Sienna's and Dodge. This problem still now shows up at random but can not be duplicated now by dealer;
    -The AC had been repaired twice due to ' someone bumping the bumper and pushing the tow package cooling system' into the condensor TWICE in six weeks; I believe this is a tow package cooling system design flaw. My wife hit one thing 9 months before the AC went out first time. Second time went out after me driving for 12 days straight--hitting nothing. Again I think this is a design flaw;
    -Brake grinding repaired twice?

    -Overall you have had 12 service visits on a $40,000.00 car with Tow Package Res and Navi in less the 12 months and 20K miles.

    :mad: :cry: :P :lemon: ?????

    What would you do? I have tried to be nice. Though very mad and very frustrated. Dealer has been nice but admits no design flaw with car - Do I have a lemon? The law talks about safety issues for lemon laws. For 40K I dont expect this and honestly I have never paid more for a car or ever been more frustrated. Do I demand a no-cost or very low cost trade?

    I can tell Dealer must get punished if they try to return to Honda Manufacturing.

    Somebody fill me in.....
  • hdf06hdf06 Member Posts: 3
    What kind the noise does it make when the car has the intrusive ABS check?
  • hdf06hdf06 Member Posts: 3
    I noticed that when passenger power sliding door opens, it has a louder "pop" sound than the the driver side. I mean its pretty loud, I can hear from second floor above the garage. Anyone has the same issue?
  • mevandemevande Member Posts: 190
    Take it to a tire dealer and have the tires checked out. They will prob. want to balance them (a good idea, since dealers are not the best at balancing tires).

    Mike
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  • mathpromathpro Member Posts: 1
    The humming droning noise all of you are hearing is coming from the cars exhaust.

    Honda's answer...

    1. Remove and replace electronic rear motor mount
    2. Adjusted motor mounts and exhaust hangers (Rubber AS, Stopper A)

    Get in line to have yours done :cry::cry:
  • macskcmacskc Member Posts: 5
    I did have the tires balanced by an independent. The steering wheel still shakes at high speeds. Took it to the dealer and they said it ran "beautifully". Not sure what to do next.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    Did they rotate when the balanced? 99.999999% of vibration is due to a tire/wheel issue. And that doesn't mean any one particular tire shop is smart enough to figure it out. I once had a bad vibration on a truck that took three shops to finally find that I had TWO tires that were bad. Try another shop, that's all you can do. If the dealer doesn't notice the vibrating, find another dealer that does. Most dealers are brain-dead, doesn't matter what brand. I've been to them all.
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    How fast will an '06 EX-L go? Just curious.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    Your question doesn't really make sense. What are you talking about? I never tried going 150 mph plus.
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    I haven't either, but I still wonder what the top end would be.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,545
    don't worry, you will never see what the real top speed is. It has a speed limiter (most cars do, at least normal ones!), largely based on the tire rating. If I had to guess, I would say 118, but it could be lower.

    I imagine it is probably good for at least 125 - 130 ungoverned, but I don't think I would want to try it!

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  • finfin Member Posts: 594
    Normally post in the Avalon forums but we are considering a van purchase so was here to read about the Odyssey. There are two different ways to calculate the theoretical top speed (HP and Cd) of a vehicle, but as posted above, you will only see the top speed set by the built in speed limiter. Probably found in the owner's manual.

    As a guess... maybe 125 with no limiter. The van front is larger than the Honda sedan. For comparison, the new Avalons with 268 HP will run 142+ on the chart but are speed limited to 138. Drive safely....... :)
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    What seems strange to me is that Honda sticks a 160 mph speedometer in a van which is (probably) governed to less than 120mph and wouldn't break 130 ungoverned. What's the point in that? How many minivan owners will be impressed (?) with a 160 mph speedometer?
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Yes, it's silly but Honda's not alone - my '03 New Beetle also has a 160 mph speedo.
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