Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

qbrozen

there's always the Ebay route. Throw it up there and let the bidders dictate the market ... or is that vice versa?

texases

Here's a rough one in Ebay that went for about $2000.
Jeepster

Mr_Shiftright

That looks way rougher than the one he described. And it's got the wrong engine.

explorerx4

about a year ago, or maybe more, you asked me to post some more pictures of my mustang.
finally, i got around to it. they in my carspace.
i haven't used the camera in a while, so they could be better.
garage pics

texases

"That looks way rougher than the one he described. And it's got the wrong engine. "

Yeah, that was the only one that wasn't up and running...the running ones ranged from $3500 to $16,000 bids (that one looked amazing).

boomchek

I see you're a Ford guy all the way.

I like your Stang. I always like that body style, probably because I entered high school when these were around and you'd see the older guys driving these. But I somehow prefered the looks to the next gen Mustang until it was freshened up in late 90s? (with more squarer look).

I remember I had a brochure for it too but I think it got lost.

michaellno

Thanks for the quick feedback. I've gotten more information and have some pictures (which I'll post when I have a few spare moments).

He paid $4000 for it and put in another $2000 in repair work in the past year before he got too sick to continue. I'm sure he's got a file folder with receipts and work orders .. he left his desk in pretty good shape. My MIL just has to find everything. She "thought" it might need a carb, but I've no idea what shape the engine or transmission are in.

My seat of the pants estimate was between $3-5K, before I knew how much he paid for it. He started to write an ad that was asking $5500, so that may be a decent starting point.

Shifty, I'll contact you off-line once I get the documentation all pulled together and go from there.

explorerx4

the funny thing is, i started out looking for an LX, which had more understated looks, but there were none to be found.
17 years later, i guess i am comfortable with it.

boomchek

I didn't mind the looks of the 5.0L LX either.

But it's funny how the same car gets gets no respect as a 4 banger, and yet is a totally different car (opposite side of performance spectrum) with the 5.0L.

explorerx4

i always liked the 7-up edition convertibles.
7 up vert
i see a same generation 4 banger hatch driving opposite my direction almost every day on my way to work.

boomchek

What does the 7 up mean? Is it just a color combo?

michaellno

OK, I've got a few pictures of the Jeepster:

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Here is the text of the ad he started to write:

Classic '49 Jeepster runs good, body good, interior good, all paperwork of repairs, owner's manual, Motto's repair book. Selling at a loss due to poor health. $5500

Anyway, once the paperwork surfaces, I'll have more information to share.

Mr_Shiftright

is this person talking about?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/877790575.html

texases

Turns out they make roll bars for track time.

Mr_Shiftright

Not easy to flip a Miata on the street. I think one hoop looks better. Thanks for posting that.

jrosasmc

I thought I'd show you this borderline ridiculous ad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300E-2-6-Mercedes-Benz-3- 00E-2-6-Collectors-Classic-in-2020_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a- 1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem2902673830- 45QQitemZ290267383045

Since when is a lowly 300E 2.6 (or 260E) considered a collector's car??

fintail

30 grand for a lowline W124 missing 12 years of receipts,and it's in Guam? Ha! In 2020 it will be as "collectible" as a 1980 280E is today.

If the owner can get 5 grand for it, he should take it. W124 sedans rarely bring more than that unless it's a Hammer or 500E. Even nice early coupes don't bring much more.

oregonboy

For 30 grand, you would think that the seller could come up with more than one crappy photo... even in Guam. :P :lemon:

James

explorerx4

it was a special edition tied ot the 7 up soft drink.
emerald green exterior with white top in interior.

explorerx4

i'm sure there's a joke to be made with that front plate on the car like, 'i always wondered what happened to that bad guy in the first superman movie'.

boomchek

I think it's not borderline ridiculous, it's BEYOND ridiculous. But it's his car, and his ad and he can ask whatever he wants for it. HGe'll own it forever at that price though.

And yeah, missing 12 years of service history defiently does not help his cause.

I wouldn't even pay him $5k for it. I prefer the freshened 92-95s versions of that model, as the colors , wheels, and just their trim looked more updated.

qbrozen

I don't have an ad to link to, but I just spotted a private ad in the local auto shopper for a 1990 SS454 Chevy Pickup with 28k miles for .... wait for it ... $20k!!

oregonboy

SS454 ? Perfect! Gas will never go back up, so why not buy a pickup that gets 8 miles to the gallon?

steven922

It does look pretty clean

qbrozen

"good candidate"?
I'm not sure it could possibly be pimped anymore than it already is in stock form!

lemmer

I can't imagine this 911 Carrera 2 Cabriolet is anything more than a parts car or a future race car.

Mr_Shiftright

Also the 1990 911s were a very trouble-prone car with cylinder head issues galore. This is the worst possible modern 911 in the worst possible year in the worst possible condition. "Things will get worse before they get worse" (Lily Tomlin).

Here's a case where the person who takes this on will actually deserve every bit of punishment they receive.

explorerx4

i like to go out to various sites to check the prices for 91-93 mustangs, since i own a 91.
went to hemmings today. no 91's but some seriously whacked prices being asked for others. :confuse:

gsemike

Looks really nice. Could this price be in the right ballpark?

Another unmolested car. This one is probably overpriced

Mr_Shiftright

"Asking prices are the exercise of your First Amendment Rights"

79 Trans Am -- I see lots of problems here. For one, there is no VIN # posted, so we can't verify the engine; then, the paint job sucks; then the chassis underneath is just an "old car" that hasn't been touched.

I'd guess this is a tarted up car with original miles but not the best of care. The engine bay looks neglected as well. I'd say a clean driver could bring his price but this car is to my mind not much more than a "quicky flip" kind of vehicle.

explorerx4

i will post tomorrow, too tired now.

explorerx4

i thought this was going to open up into a sofa

someone thought this was a good idea?

in florida/ad is in hartford?

help me clean out my driveway

what exactly do they think they have here?

liberal interpretation of 'classic'

boomchek

The Rolls Royce back end would go well withmy Civic back end that I have. mine doesn't open up however

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explorerx4

i was hoping it was going to be a barbecue or something like that.

qbrozen

Ok ... does anybody have any info or experience with shadetree tire changers?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200349248_200- - 349248

I don't even know if it will work on 17" wheels. Specs for other ones I've read say 16" or 16.5".
Anyway, reason I'm even looking is because I went to Sears yesterday to inquire about having then swap my 2 sets of tires from one set of rims to the other (so 8 total demounts/mounts/balances). They quoted me over $200!! I think that's nuts. So I'm thinking a tire changer of some sort might be a good investment, considering how much I love racing and destroying tires. I'd certainly be willing to spend more than a couple hundred bucks, but I can't find anything like that. Its either this $50 unit or a $1500 hydraulic unit. I can't believe there is nothing in between.

I'm thinking I might enlist my father's help to build one.

By the way, been a bit over 2 weeks and only silence from the Alfa buyer. So I hope that's that. I figure either he got good news on the 2nd opinion, sold it, or talked to a lawyer and found out he's SOL. At least that's what I hope.

boomchek

Good news then. I'd leave it alone and wouldn't worry about it. Maybe he resold it to someone else.

Tire changers re neat things to have, but I'm not sure if the cheap ones will do alloy wheels and low profile tires. We had one in my high school but they only worked on normal steel wheels.

woodyww

What do other racers do? And if you got a tire changer of some sort, could you balance the tires as well? Some expensive machinery they have in tire shops, I think.

Around here, it's $30-$35 each tire for mounting & balancing. It is depressing; Can eat up a lot of the savings by ordering from tire rack.

texases

I'd sure worry about the leverage you'd need for 17" low profile tires. Nothing used on Ebay/Craigslist?

qbrozen

found a nice antique wood one. haha.

My father is asking around to see if he can locate something used.

Seems like other racers just pony up the $$. There are 2 groups, though. Those who seem to have the disposable income and get whatever they need, and those who don't and make do. I'm in the 2nd camp, but I don't wanna make do.

As for balancing, I've never had complaints about those I've balanced with a good ole bubble balancer.

lokki

Rare 1963 Fairlane - Does anybody collect these?
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/881039406.html

He's collected this car for all the wrong reasons
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/880572374.html

Not a project car at $97K, I hope
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/885821829.html

A couple years newer and a different roofline saves you $60K? I'll take it and make 60K worth of mods.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/886397067.html

Dreamer, cause baby needs a new pair of shoes
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/887312159.html

Dad is wondering if this is really his son I bet
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/883302416.html

It says something when an MG is your reliable car
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/883330520.html

I want it but is it really worth $63k?
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/877389273.html

Ok, you win, this is RARE
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/872562355.html

Mr_Shiftright

'63 Fairlane 500 Coupe -- price is just over double what it's worth on a good day. Dream on, your car is a wreck, it's not the #2 local show car in the price guide.

59 Citroen Truckette -- oh I can just see it all painted up for some yuppie neighborhood "boulangerie". it might sell at that price.

67 Dodge Dart -- so he put an expensive custom motor into a '67 Dart with rusty floors and now he wants his money back? No. If we do that, you'll never learn.

51 Chevy 4-door -- so the Dr. Pepper decal makes it worth more? Explain that to me again....you know, it's just an "old used car". Is it worth $1800 bucks with no engine or transmission? Er, probably not, because nobody hot rods 4-doors. Try $995 and get 'er out of there.

95 Camaro Callaway -- hmmm....3 months in the body shop? Is this a code word for "salvage title"? Camaros of this era are fun to drive and competent cars but about the cheesiest built automobile on the road back then.

texases

Fiat X-1/9 - at least it comes with the "doe snot" option :P

Mr_Shiftright

I'd offer $10 for that car. The parts alone are worth $5.

andre1969

Wait...that '63 Fairlane is only overpriced by double?! Heck, with the way the body looks and the transmission problems, I was thinking more like $700! :sick:

I actually like those cars...I think the '63 looks just right...you can tell it's trying to mimic the big '63 Fords, but it still looks nice in its own right. But if I were to get one, I'd want one that's in better shape than that!

Would that thing have a 2-speed automatic or 3-speed?

hpmctorque

"Would that thing have a 2-speed automatic or 3-speed?

It would have the 2-speed Fordomatic. The optional 3-speed Cruise-O-Matic was introduced for the '64 model year, and I believe it was only available with the then new 289 V8.

explorerx4

that car looks like it has some kind of mange.

Mr_Shiftright

I didn't look at it very closely. It is a coupe and it is a V-8 so it has some collectibility but probably fully restored it's not worth more than $7500, so there's no upside here. In the stark cold light of reality, the car is, economically speaking, worth nothing.

qbrozen

This looks like a lotta fun.

andre1969

That must have been a dog of a car, with the 2-speed automatic. I think the 221 only put out around 145 hp. What would 0-60 be, around 17-18 seconds?

I think one of the worst 0-60 times I ever saw for something of that vintage was for an early 60's Comet with the 144-6 and 2-speed automatic. While the Comet was based on the compact Falcon and not the midsize, it was plumped up to where it was about the size of a Fairlane or Meteor, and not much lighter. Anyway, I think 0-60 was around 27 seconds!

I guess it wouldn't be too bad cruising around locally. But merging onto a highway would take some planning.

lemko

1963 Ford Fairlane - he wants an awful lot of money for a car with so many issues that isn't worth that much in pristine condition. What does he think he has - a Thunderbolt?

The Dr. Pepper 1951 Chevrolet would look pretty cool restored, but I wouldn't consider it an investment. Maybe the Dr. Pepper company would be interested.

I think I'd rather have the stock 1964 Chevrolet Impala versus the stupid custom '62.

Barney's Dart? This guy isn't merely dreaming, but smoking blunts the size of telephone poles!