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2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I'd be interested at maybe half that price, just for the experience of owning a v12 Jag sedan, even if only for a little while.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
I remember back in the day I had a fascination with Ladas, the old style ones especially. I think the dealer was in New West? Or a dealer was, anyway.
Gee, I wonder which one?
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5254324329.html
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5277673289.html
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5277607476.html (Are these really worth this much??)
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5277290545.html
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5267860350.html
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
now the Datsun, that looks sweet. No clue about the price, but hard to imagine finding a nicer one.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Yup, sure enough, a quick search shows me he bought a 1968 Wagoneer, but it was back in 2012. But 28k original miles and as perfect as you can get for $20,500. So I'd have to say that '88 ain't worth nowhere near that.
Is it just me, or is the rear of that Datsun riding low?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Fiat 124 -- it depends on how it runs and what it needs. These are creeping up in value but certainly not worth restoring at this point
Jeep -- it's a mess but a pretty easy vehicle to take completely apart. Might be a fun project.
And anytime I see "I'm selling this for a friend" I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the seller is a curbstoner out to make a quick flip.
It probably does only need a battery. After all, Jaguars of that vintage have bulletproof electrical systems....right?
The only upside is that I can store the car and buy what I need bit by bit rather than writing a check for a running car. (scrounge, deal, barter, cash in favors, beg, etc).
the downside is that the only way to make this work is to find a reliable used engine, of the same year, that has been bench tested and warrantied.
Given the large percentage of failures of this engine, that isn't going to be easy.
right now he's at $5K, I'm hanging tough at $2,000.
Used engine --$5,000 to $7,000
Retrofit IMS bearing, new water pump, new air/oil separator ( prior to installation)--- maybe $3000 if done by experts
R&R of engine -- $1600
Best case scenario---car ready to roll for $12,000 total (a pretty good deal)
Worst case scenario--car will end up costing $18,000---which is about retail book for a good running one.
The owner seems to be asking way over it's worth, so why should you help them out by knowing what it could be worth?
It's still a risk.
BUT, the guy sounds pretty proud of this car, despite its obvious condition and wear, so he might just be too proud to recognize that "best offer" when he hears it.
This isn't a car I would flip---I'd keep it if it ran out well. Like you say, with an engine-out overhaul of all the common failure parts on this car----water pump, air/oil separator, and IMS bearing, + sealing up any oil leaks--that gives me much better odds of successful longterm ownership.
Gotta be real careful with this one, though, especially shopping for the used engine. Has to be same year donor car. I don't want any Porsche wiring harness or computer problems. Porsche always makes lots of changes year-to-year.
I lost respect though at this part of the ad: "Chevy conversion perhaps" Ouch. I'm sure it is doable, and would cost you way more to do it right.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I don't think there's much money in this even for a Porsche specialist. It's a lot of work building a 996 motor and this block is probably no good, so he'd be fishing for a used motor or core anyway. And he'd have to take away from his shop time. It's parked at a Porsche repair shop and they aren't interested apparently, at least not as his price. I suspect some fool will buy it at full price...not me.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5253734586.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5263301235.html
Still, looks super clean in and out. Other than needing an engine. Simple lump, but rare parts. I love that it is a stick.
That dash brings. Back fond memories of our 1969 144s. I would love this. For about $500. Just to use as a lounge chair in the garage.
Brakes alone will be a grand. All the fluids, new suspension. 2-3k to rebuild engine. Bet you need a good 10k to make road worthy. At which point it will maybe be worth 4K?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But this has more engine bay for a V8 conversion! Probably what I would do with it.
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/5296718799.html
It's not like they're trying to hurt anyone; that looks like as good a $1000 car as you're going to find these days. But still...
I feel old.
I had high hopes for the Corsica when it first came out, as I thought it was a better looking car than the Taurus...and I tend to root for Chevy before Ford. But, the Corsica was a compact, so it went up more against the Tempo, while the Taurus tended to mop the floor with whatever competition it had at the time.
Still, I guess the Corsica's not a bad car. I hated the interiors at the time, but as an inexpensive used car, I'd probably be fine with it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I actually had a new bright red '89 Beretta GT and a '90 Corsica at the same time. There was a period when the Corsica/Beretta (they considered them one line) was the best-selling car in America. I don't believe that lasted real long though.
We bought a new '93 Caprice Classic which became my wife's car, and I drove the Corsica until I bought a new '97 Cavalier 4-door 5-speed, which was traded on an '02 Cavalier coupe 5-speed, which was traded on my '08 Cobalt 4-door 5-speed. All were dirt-cheap to buy and reliable, and dirt-cheap to maintain. The last three were built forty miles down the road from us, at Lordstown. People work there who live where I live now, and live in my old hometown which is forty miles in the other direction from the plant.
Those cars might be a luxury version of the "mechanical cockroach" ethos of the Chevette - not the most refined, but they seem to keep moving. Corsicas and Berettas also seem to have been affected by the paint issues of the time, where it would fall off in patches, sometimes before the car was terribly old.
At one point, 1997 I believe, we got 5 Olds Achievas for $65,000...or basically, $13K apiece. I spent a little time behind the wheel of those, as well. Totally mediocre cars, but I guess for the price who could complain? They lasted awhile, too...at least 10 years I think.
Now we have an Impala...a 2012 I think. I drove it about 3 years ago, when we had to shuttle it from our building over to the motor pool for something or other, and the secretary brought me back in her ~2000 Camry.
I'm pretty sure the Impala is a 3.5. I remember popping the hood on the Achieva once, and seeing that it had whatever version of the Quad 4 they were using at the time. I can't remember what the Corsicas had.
In 2013 I had a loaded new style Impala LTZ with the 3.6, as a rental. Completely different animal, a much nicer and more competent car.
Both our Cobalts have virtually zero tire noise. My Malibu has more road/tire noise. I have to believe they took insulation out to save weight and get the mpg up. The Malibu also strikes me as having a smaller gas tank than a car like that should. I'm sure that's weight-control too.
My friend has a stunningly attractive (to my eyes) '15 Impala LTZ. It has big-ol' tires and wheels, but even it has tire noise.
I know I'm a dinosaur, but I remember riding in my friends' parents' new '77 Caprice Classic. It was totally silent. We had an Impala the same year, but the Caprice had more insulation, including an under-the-hood pad and other things. I remember the brochure even said, "You'll find it hard to believe a moving automobile can be so quiet". That really was no hyperbole. Seems like nobody cares that much about that trait anymore.
What's the tank size of the Malibu? 16 gallons? I don't think it's really a weight thing, but probably more a function of that was the biggest tank they could get to squeeze into the available space? A gallon of gasoline only weighs about 6 pounds, and making a tank larger isn't going to add very much weight in materials. I'd imagine taking the tank from 16 to 20 gallons wouldn't even add 30 pounds.
In the old days, cars had a lot of wasted space underneath, so with many designs it was usually easier to make a larger tank. Although maybe some designs didn't allow much flexibility. For example, my '68 Dart actually had a spare tire well in the trunk, something that's a bit of a rarity in a RWD car from that era. The gas tank was actually shaped to wrap around the forward area of the spare tire well. It was 18 gallons. However, when you factor the space between the spare tire well and the rear axle, and the subframe rails on either side, plus the fact you can only make a gas tank hang so low before it becomes vulnerable, there probably was no way for Mopar to make that tank any bigger without a major re-engineering of the car.
On the other hand, I've heard that with the '72-76 Torino, once fuel economy started dropping because of the rudimentary emission controls, and they couldn't figure out how to improve economy, Ford simply gave the car a bigger gas tank to improve its range. So the Torino probably had a lot of wasted space under there that could be put to use.
FWIW, the tank on my old Intrepid was only 17 gallons. My Park Ave is 18.5 gallons. I think my Ram is 27-28. At the time, I was really impressed with the Intrepid's range. I usually got around 300 miles between fill-ups, and on longer trips sometimes 400. In comparison my old car, an '89 Gran Fury ex police car, had an 18 gallon tank, but it would only break 20 mpg on a highway run. Around town it was more like 12-13 mpg. I'd usually fill up around the 200 mile mark just to be safe.
A big part of the noise equation is body-on-frame versus unit-body. My old '68 Cutlass has virtually no sound insulation to speak of - just a thin pad under the floor carpet and (I think) an even thinner pad glued ot the underside of the roof - yet it has very little tire noise, and takes bumps (like expansion strips) much better than any unitized car I've driven. My old '78 Delta 88 and '79 Park Avenue were even better than the Cutlass in that regard.
I know that when I bought my '02 Olds Intrigue that GM had responded to road noise complaints by installing some fiber pads in the inside of the front fenders near where the door hinges were. The same thing was there in my '09 Lacrosse. But you could still hear a lot of tire noise, especially in the Intrigue. The Buick was noticeably quieter because they used laminated door glass and a bunch more insulation, apparently. The Buicks built today are even quieter.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic