Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

tjc78 · July 30

Car photographs so well

sda · July 30

Does it have a Generator? They don’t charge well at low rpms. You’re fortunate to have a battery pack but it sounds like a new battery is needed.

fintail · July 30

Yep, generator. I think this has been an issue throughout the car's life. I think it was the first owner who installed a Stewart-Warner ammeter in the dash (cut into the dash, irreversible mod, but it is a nice period correct item with a bezel that doesn't stand out) - it works, and I notice the car is discharging at slow idle. At low rpm the charging light also comes on, but turns off in normal driving. Can't be easy on the battery, I think I will try to string it along to at least get to 9 years (a few months away).

And yeah, I think the color does a lot, that with how most of the chrome has aged well, and that the car is kept clean.

andres3 · July 31

BMW .... Mercedes, at least they had the Country of origin correct.

xwesx · July 31

Fin, the next time you're working with it, take a multimeter with you to check voltages when it is off, at idle, and under higher RPM. There are a few things that are possible here, but I think the two most likely are:

1. Failing alternator (brushes).
2. Failing starter (solenoid under too high of resistance when the engine is warm). Extra amperage can overcome this (e.g., jumping) early on, but it will just get worse with time.

Edit: Oh, didn't realize it was a generator. I think those just give out fixed voltage based on the speed it's turning, correct? That could complicate things. Probably good to have a deep cycle battery on it.

fintail · July 31

andres3 said:
BMW .... Mercedes, at least they had the Country of origin correct.

Reminds me of years ago, I think when I was a student, a guy came up to me and asked "are you the guy who has that old blue Bentley?"

fintail · July 31

Yep, generator. I had it rebuilt maybe 7 years ago now. The low rpm = charging light has been a thing during the entire time I have owned the car, no matter age of alternator or battery.

The battery in it is a MegaTron something, and it is big, to fit in the large battery holder of the car. Being from 2014, it doesn't owe me anything, but I will do what I can to keep it going. Just keep the jump pack on me and be prepared to get another battery, a job I can actually do.

xwesx said:
Fin, the next time you're working with it, take a multimeter with you to check voltages when it is off, at idle, and under higher RPM. There are a few things that are possible here, but I think the two most likely are:

1. Failing alternator (brushes).
2. Failing starter (solenoid under too high of resistance when the engine is warm). Extra amperage can overcome this (e.g., jumping) early on, but it will just get worse with time.

Edit: Oh, didn't realize it was a generator. I think those just give out fixed voltage based on the speed it's turning, correct? That could complicate things. Probably good to have a deep cycle battery on it.

fintail · August 1

A seat for every butt

Baby almost the price of the adult

Upholstery appears to wear like iron

I think I have seen this in person a couple times (at a golf course no less), it really does look pristine

Change out those wheels stat!

Unique

Probably over original MSRP

You can't get there from here

The only way to travel

Every accessory and then some

Not sure what is better, the mileage or the color

Coolest car ever made

I swear this was for sale a year or two ago, but I think this might be a near identical but different car. Seems fair for a good driver, just deduct for a new set of wide whites

stickguy · August 1

Pacer looks better that way.

And the CRX really needs to be an Si.

tjc78 · August 1

The Fiero would be very nice if those wheels were ditched.

For me the only thing I’d want would be the 84 Caddy. Good colors and condition.

The 85 Coupe is in very nice shape, but to me those cars have no presence at all. It’s no wonder Lincoln really took off in the mid 80s.

texases · August 1

That Galaxie - worst Continental kit ever...

explorerx4 · August 1

Another rare car next to the Model T.

ab348 · August 1

The ‘84 deVille is very nice. All it needs is an engine. The HT4100 doesn’t cut it.

The ‘62 Ford is unfortunate. Too much junk tacked on to what would otherwise be a nice car.

tjc78 · August 1

Oh shoot … I retract my statement. I was thinking that 84 had the Olds 307 or one of the larger Caddy V8s.

gsemike · August 2

I like the color combo on the 85 Coupe de ville and it looks to be in terrific shape.

I like it even though it's unolved

gsemike · August 2

Long Island Marketplace
Haven't looked in a while. Found some interesting listings

21 yo Focus ST that actually looks really well preserved

87 GTA Price of these are up so this may be a fair deal

Chargero? Chargcamino? Even is decent build, not what the seller thinks it is.

Never see these RX-8s anymore Wing is a mistake. Car looks very messed with

Never see these Eclipses anymore either These used to be very popular around here

S class looks really used up Brooklun living is hard on a car

55 BelAir looks like a nice build Seller is probably still optimistic

Most loved Solara you'll find I bet

First car vibed on this Accord but with these needs, he should be willing to negotiate

Prelude looks OK except the hood and the AT Maybe find a hood and do a vinyl wrap on it for a first car

sda · August 2

I have to laugh, when I saw GTA listed I thought of the Renault Alliance GTA. To my defense or shame I did own an 85 Alliance DL convertible, fully loaded 5sp 1.7L.

tjc78 · August 2

GTA is a good deal if it’s as described. Not sure why the gas cap doesn’t match but the rest looks good.

oldfarmer50 · August 2

$40k for a chopped up Charger pushing 200k miles? Dream on buddy.

I like that Eclipse but it’s the 4cyl. model. I had a 2008 GT with the 6 cyl. which was a lot more fun. They stopped making them in 2012.

When I was convertible shopping I considered a Solara but they held their value so well that I went with a Chrysler for less than a third of what they’re asking.

qbrozen · August 2

I want to see the ST, but the link is coming up blank for me

fintail · August 2

That W220 S-class, too much bleeding edge (for the day) tech beta tested by people who laid down 90K for such a car. Many looked like that 10 years ago.

ST doesn't work for me either.

gsemike · August 3

qbrozen said:
I want to see the ST, but the link is coming up blank for me

The focus is in a long island buy/sell group. Probably private group

bhill2 · August 3

gsemike said:
Long Island Marketplace
Haven't looked in a while. Found some interesting listings

21 yo Focus ST that actually looks really well preserved

87 GTA Price of these are up so this may be a fair deal

Chargero? Chargcamino? Even is decent build, not what the seller thinks it is.

Never see these RX-8s anymore Wing is a mistake. Car looks very messed with

Never see these Eclipses anymore either These used to be very popular around here

S class looks really used up Brooklun living is hard on a car

55 BelAir looks like a nice build Seller is probably still optimistic

Most loved Solara you'll find I bet

First car vibed on this Accord but with these needs, he should be willing to negotiate

Prelude looks OK except the hood and the AT Maybe find a hood and do a vinyl wrap on it for a first car

You may think I'm weird, but I don't have a Facebook account. Thus I can't see any of these. Do other people have this problem or I am indeed weird?

tjc78 · August 3

I don’t have one either. I use my wife’s account for these purposes.

texases · August 4

I don’t have an account but see the ads no problem.

explorerx4 · August 4

Other than the first ad, I can see them all, although I don't have a FB acct to my knowledge.

kyfdx · August 4

I wish I didn't have a FB account

qbrozen · August 4

@bhill2 said:
You may think I'm weird, but I don't have a Facebook account. Thus I can't see any of these. Do other people have this problem or I am indeed weird?

I have a fake account. Had a real one a while back and couldn’t take the drama so I deactivated it. Few years later, I needed it for purposes other than people finding me, hence fake account. Well, real account, fake name with no friends.

kyfdx · August 4

qbrozen said:

@bhill2 said:

You may think I'm weird, but I don't have a Facebook account. Thus I can't see any of these. Do other people have this problem or I am indeed weird?

I have a fake account. Had a real one a while back and couldn’t take the drama so I deactivated it. Few years later, I needed it for purposes other than people finding me, hence fake account. Well, real account, fake name with no friends.

So, it's your actual account?

fintail · August 4

I have fb, grudgingly. Many hobby and car groups that used to be on board type sites moved there and have stayed. I've also bought and sold on marketplace, so it is needed. Profile is just a name though, no personal pics or 25x a day updates of my life.

As long as an ad isn't in a specific group, I don't think it should be hidden from non-members.

oldfarmer50 · August 5

bhill2 said:

gsemike said:
Long Island Marketplace
Haven't looked in a while. Found some interesting listings

21 yo Focus ST that actually looks really well preserved

87 GTA Price of these are up so this may be a fair deal

Chargero? Chargcamino? Even is decent build, not what the seller thinks it is.

Never see these RX-8s anymore Wing is a mistake. Car looks very messed with

Never see these Eclipses anymore either These used to be very popular around here

S class looks really used up Brooklun living is hard on a car

55 BelAir looks like a nice build Seller is probably still optimistic

Most loved Solara you'll find I bet

First car vibed on this Accord but with these needs, he should be willing to negotiate

Prelude looks OK except the hood and the AT Maybe find a hood and do a vinyl wrap on it for a first car
You may think I'm weird, but I don't have a Facebook account. Thus I can't see any of these. Do other people have this problem or I am indeed weird?

I don’t have FB either but all the cars were visible except the Focus. Not having FB isn’t weird, I don’t use Twitter either.

fintail · August 5

Unfortunate incident from another group:

It may not look too bad, but apparently one of the rear quarters is bent, and I'd fear frame damage, so the old car might be on thin ice.

The offending car had it worse, airbag deployment too:

ab348 · August 6

Unibody T-Bird, so it might be possible to stretch it back into shape. Rear bumper might need to be replaced it there are no longer any shops that can straighten and rechrome it.

oldfarmer50 · August 6

fintail said:
Unfortunate incident from another group:

It may not look too bad, but apparently one of the rear quarters is bent, and I'd fear frame damage, so the old car might be on thin ice.

The offending car had it worse, airbag deployment too:

Wow, I can’t imagine how much it will cost to put that back together. Are there parts available for those like with Mustangs and Camaros? Tell me the guy who hit him had insurance.

fintail · August 6

Yep, insured. I think there are a handful of Bird specialists out there, but these cars seem to have high survival rates - lots of them still out there although maybe not in the most roadworthy condition. Scouting some old time junkyards might do it. The car was/is a daily driver, btw. Owner reports it drives a little weird now, so the alignment is off if not the frame tweaked a little.

texases · August 6

With enough money I’d think that rear bumper could be repaired and replated.

tjc78 · August 6

@texases said:
With enough money I’d think that rear bumper could be repaired and replated.

Anything is possible with time and/or money.

gsemike · August 9

tjc78 said:

@texases said:

With enough money I’d think that rear bumper could be repaired and replated.

Anything is possible with time and/or money.

But I do agree the bumper appears repairable

fintail · August 11

Some rare and sought after vintage cars for sale:

Nice patina, fun toy - pretty sure I saw this on the road once

I mean the name is right there on the car

Almost twinsies

Not sure if you can get there from here

Unique style

Don't see these much anymore

This classy thing is back, needs the fault remedied to justify the price

Period colors

Over-restored

Rope

Store your cars indoors, people

Probably needs a 1 in front of those miles (I can't believe it has a 5 digit odo) but looks decent

Good luck with this one

Super

So 90s

Fun summer car

ab348 · August 11

The ‘70 Monte Carlo is bizarre. The description sounds like is for a different car than what’s pictured. It is pretty crusty looking down low, and those dents! Is that masking tape holding down the trunklid?

sda · August 12

On the 55 Nash, the ‘Weathereye’ shows Airconditoning as a selection from the lower control lever. If this is factory air, that has to be rare. The Sunbird convertible looks nice and would be a cheap and fun top down cruiser.

tjc78 · August 12

Twin powder blue Grand Marquis. If you needed beaters either would serve you well.

I agree with AB on the Monte. Must have had a hard first ten years before parking it.

Town Car rare without digital dash. No 6th digit and those clusters are known for bad odometer gears. I’d treat that one as TMU

Super coupe. Never seen one with red interior.

Sunbird. Interesting to see one in that condition. Not the most manly car ever made.

7.3 OBS…. Must have a million miles as the price honestly doesn’t seem all that bad for that rig. The ground effects are “special”.

fintail · August 12

sda said:
On the 55 Nash, the ‘Weathereye’ shows Airconditoning as a selection from the lower control lever. If this is factory air, that has to be rare. The Sunbird convertible looks nice and would be a cheap and fun top down cruiser.

I don't see anything resembling a compressor in the engine bay. In old car and real estate ads, I often see "air conditioning" used when I suspect there's no actual refrigeration unit. I think it is an old timey term used for an air circulation system in a house (like central heating with a ventilation fan) or a car with flow through ventilation.

sda · August 12

fintail said:

sda said:
On the 55 Nash, the ‘Weathereye’ shows Airconditoning as a selection from the lower control lever. If this is factory air, that has to be rare. The Sunbird convertible looks nice and would be a cheap and fun top down cruiser.
I don't see anything resembling a compressor in the engine bay. In old car and real estate ads, I often see "air conditioning" used when I suspect there's no actual refrigeration unit. I think it is an old timey term used for an air circulation system in a house (like central heating with a ventilation fan) or a car with flow through ventilation.

I didn’t see any ac hardware underhood either, thus my ‘if’ in my description.

texases · August 15

I and another poster in a different forum have a pretty wide range for the expected final bid on this. Where do you think it'll end up?
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1966-chrysler-300-hollister-id-708091

oldfarmer50 · August 15

texases said:
I and another poster in a different forum have a pretty wide range for the expected final bid on this. Where do you think it'll end up?
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1966-chrysler-300-hollister-id-708091

LOL, I can only imagine the house of horrors that awaits the winning bidder.

ab348 · August 15

It would cost a small fortune to undo all the changes that the previous owner made. And most need undoing.

qbrozen · August 16

Gotta be the worst possible choice for the steering wheel.

Surprising lack of info and pics. I’m not familiar with their auctions. If this was BaT, I’d say $25k is possible. Realistically, this should be a $20k car, max, IMHO. Put another $7k (and lots of personal hours) into it and I think it could be a $35k car.

stickguy · August 16

Very niche. How many people will really want something like this, made out of one of those?

texases · August 16

stickguy said:
Very niche. How many people will really want something like this, made out of one of those?

That was my thought. At least in this situation we'll get an actual answer in a week or so.

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