Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

topspin628

Can you please tell about the "secret overide" on the LS. It's been driving me nuts not to be able to program while in motion.
Thank you.

bugfiat

This is the new Canadian LS460 web site. It is wellworth visiting.

http://www.ls460.ca/

gteach26

From the Lexus LS Board Message #7602

"A set of button pushes can override the lockout on most Lexus NAVs until the next time the vehicle is restarted by pushing the buttons in the following order: menu > volume > top left of screen, bottom left, top left, bottom left > override ((hold for several seconds until override is highlighted and beep occurs) > back. Destinations can then be entered while moving.
No one has yet found a way to dial the phone while moving."

When pressing the "top left/bottom left (twice) on the screen there are no icons there -- just tap those areas to enter the override screen.

It takes a few seconds to do when you start the car, but it works!!!!

vcheng

... you can look for a "lockpick" device made by a company called Coastal Etech, that will get rid of the "I agree" button, and unlock both the navigation and phone systems while the vehicle is moving. from 100 to 230 dollars depending on the options.

I am not affiliated with this company in any way, shape or form.

Edit: website is : http://www.coastaletech.com/LOCKPICK_MAIN.htm

topspin628

Thanks. I'll try it. I was hoping the phone would work too but maybe someone can figure that one out later.

tagman

If you've read any of Merc's posts over the past 5 years or so, you'd see what is wrong with Lexus'/LS' image/perception.

Doc, to be honest with ya, I know very well about the Lexus image and some of the truth it is based upon . . . I'm just glad to see you would admit that there is an image problem with the Lexus. :P

And it is certainly nice to see you using Merc's posts to substantiate your perspective. Fascinating that you suddently agree with Merc.

Well, according to some of those past posts made by Merc, which you refer to and indicate you agree with, part of the Lexus perception/image problem is that they look too much like Toyotas.

Perhaps the two of you are right about that.

TagMan

gteach26

Looks like a fantastic product. I'm sure they'll have one out for the LS460 in no time. I'm getting mine... NOW!!!

Thanks for the info.

Now why the LS460 still forces that silly "I agree" thing on us -- who knows?!?!?

drfill

I thought I made it pretty clear that I disagree with that perception, in the full unedited post.

That doesn't mean Merc' perception isn't reasonable. It may be exactly how many buyers perceive the LS. That could very well be the word on the street. Maybe not.

That's old news, as I say again, Lexus is nobody's stepchild. They're large and in charge!

The Future is here. And it's pretty cool!

DrFill

excelsior88

Good news, the backseat recline is available in additional packages besides the Executive class special order option.

maloof

Anyone know if the five spoke wheels are available on the LS 460? Or are they only available on the 460L or are they available as a sport option on the 460?
The nine spoke wheels I have seen in some of the ads don't have the same appeal as the five spoke.

nexuslexus

more information?

nexuslexus

Here in the Detroit area, they had a special event more than a month ago, actually several months ago in July or August, where they showed off the car. I am surprised they are just now showing it off in California, which I would assume is a much larger market than Michigan.

derrelhgreen

They did in fact "show it off" here in Kallifornia, but by the time I got the word, ALL slots were fully booked in both locations and there evidently were NO cancellations!

billsoter

Has there been any indication regarding when or if the LS460 will get All Wheel Drive?
In that it wll be standard on the LS600 then Lexus is obviously aware of it's value.

anthonyp

Hi DrFill
Always a pleasure to read your perky rants..

After seeing the new cost structure, I am saddened,as the LS in the past has been a value and has kept a lid on the other manufacturers...I am afraid Lexus has let them out the box, so now all will be pretty expensive to purchase...One thing, in the past, Lexus has been more willing to deal than any of the German brands, so when thing cool off those than desire a Lexus may be able to get one several thousand less than the sticker...A hopeful thought Tony

jd14

As of this second, "Lexus.com is currently under maintenance." You all know what that means. Expect to see the LS460 and 460L replacing the 430 on their website within a day or two.

guest

Been a while since I've been called "perky"

You should see me in latex!

Or listen to me on 8-track. What a rush!

Hopefully Lexus will forego some sales, and establish more exclusivity with the New LS.

I'm confident sales will increase nicely, for the next TWO years, without much discounting.

Only thinking of what's best for the brand, long-term. Lexus really doesn't need sales as much as to flex some image muscle.

How many sales titles do they need? :confuse:

DrFill

barryns

Edmunds.com just posted the prices of the LS460 and LS460L including option breakdown, colors, and option prices.

blkcadillac

THE NEW LEXUS WEB SITE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING of the new LS.

blkcadillac

excelsior88

Wow, the new website looks amazing. Sleek and sophisticated, to match the new Lexus lineup. BTW, on the LS page, be sure to check out 'experience the LS' under What's New which is a mini-tour.

http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/

jd14

Since some of the people that post on this forum have already been inside the new LS at Taste of Lexus events, I was hoping maybe you guys could help me out. I can't find which rear seats are able to get what features :mad: . Some websites say both are power reclining, with power headrests, memmory, and heating/cooling capabilities, while just the right one has massage and 45 degree recline. Obviously it depends on the options you order, but could someone please post which features you can get for what seat. Thanks.

jd14

I'm not sure about this either, but didn't the last generation LS have an option to get both rear seats with massage function? So the one seat is actually losing features?

maximus_gti

The massage function is only with the executive package. The other packages include the heated/cooled rear seats with power head rests, seat adjustments, power sunshades, and memory.

excelsior88

The video on Lexus.com mentions "this is no vibrating massage," a dig at the old LS 430! You do lose the vibrating massage on both sides with the new model, but if you can get the special order Exec Class Seat Package, the right rear seat has shiatsu, shoulder massage etc--like one of those pricey chairs you can buy for at home.

I think that's the main difference with the UL package on the LS 430. It's also possible the cool box is bundled with that package as well. But otherwise, memory seats with recline, heated rear seats, shades et al are still available.

jd14

Thanks for the information. I'm pretty sure that the cool box is with the exec package as well. I wonder if they will carry over some of the right rear seat functions to the left rear seat and passenger seat in the next generation. But for now...LET THE RACE FOR THE BACK RIGHT SEAT BEGIN!!!

houdini1

Excuse me, but to me, all this fancy stuff is just a way to rip you off. Just give me the base car at around $61,000. and I'm happy. I will be 64 in January so don't mind me. I'm an old codger.

rcf8000

It looks to me like there is in effect a significant price increase. My '05 with the Custom Luxury package and some other options stickered at about $67,000. An '07 with the same options appears to be over $74,000. Guess the value of my car just went up!

nvbanker

My '05 with the Custom Luxury package and some other options stickered at about $67,000.

So did mine.

An '07 with the same options appears to be over $74,000. Guess the value of my car just went up!

We both WISH!! 430s will be boat anchors once the 460 is available, plus trade ins will be plenty, so the used market will have a glut of 430s to choose from. I think our 430s will drop in value like the Titanic for a year or two - then they may recover.

feverhart

Well, Old Codger, from one to another, I'll be 81 next March, so I figure that I've paid my dues. Therefore I'm waiting for the LS600hl and fully equiped is fine with me. Now isn't life grand!

nvbanker

Wow, compared to you old codgers, as you say, I'm just a kid at 53, aren't I? Still working too....

That being said, I'm not interested in having a car with 2 propulsion systems, so I'm not interested in the hybrid - just give me a 460L, and I'm happy....

houdini1

I guess that makes me a middle aged codger. When I grow up I want to be like you!!

nexuslexus

I do wonder who the back seat is marketed to. I can't remember the last time I sat in the back seat of one of my cars. I don't need shiatsu massages and flip down DVD players and champagne coolers and heated and cooled rear seats. Hell, I don't operate a limousine service. In fact, except for the better ride, I don't need the extra room of the L either. Still, it seems I am left with no option but the 600hL if I want AWD. Sometimes I question my requirement for AWD in my Sedan (I have two SUVS, a Highlander and an Infiniti FX35 AWD that my son drives when home from college, and an AWD Sienna) but I guess one thing that happens as you become older is you become stubborn (although I guess I would still have to be a kid too compared to some of the "codgers" here).

So I guess I'll wait for a 600- I may even spring for that parking system, although here in suburbia it seems I'm always parked in my garage or in a parking deck, never parallel.

feverhart

Oh yes, you are so right, but what the heck, you would never be able to use these extras if you didn't have them and you never know. It's something like tools. I've found that I can't have too many tools. I too often need one I don't have.

So bring on the gadgets.

Old Codger

excelsior88

If AWD is a requirement, why not wait a year? Word is that the LS 460 AWD will come out for the 2007-2008 model year.

nexuslexus

If I got a confirmation from Lexus that there would be AWD on the LS460 for the 2008 model year, I would consider waiting, but I've been waiting several years for the new LS to come out, and I just took out a one year lease on an E-class early in the summer to hold me over until it comes out, and I don't want to have to do another one year lease because they charge you out of this world monthly payments for these one-year leases, so I think I'll be stuck with getting it next year. Now if I had been smart, maybe I would have found a two year lease, but whats happened has happened.

cyclone4

I am curious. What in the world happened to a few posts from early this morning? They magically disappeared. And I don't recall that there was anything at all controversial about those posts. One of the posts was from ljflx from about 7:40 AM Central time.

excelsior88

The forum has been split into pre-release and post-release 2007 LS threads, ljflx's posts are now on the new thread.

excelsior88

So far we have second-hand (journalist) statements, who say that Lexus reps have told them AWD LS 460's are in the near future, but there is no guarantee that the LS 460 AWD will come out for the 2007-2008 time frame. That is the earliest possibility...

Good luck on your decision!

nexuslexus

May I suggest (even though I know that you, excelsior, did not make the change)that it was a little premature. I think that there is still valuable information on the LS600, which has not been released, to be gleaned through this board.

ljflx

I asked my dealer about AWD today and he said it's possible AWD becomes an option about half way thru the 2007 model year and was almost certainty in 2008. When you think about it there is some logic that AWD arrives on the LS460 models at the same time that the LS600HL comes to market.

Kirstie_H

Hey, we would LOVE to have a discussion on the LS600 (hint, hint). Not all discussions need to be host-generated.

landi

Here is my post again, I still do not understand why it was deleted. This is the LS460 board isn't it?

Is the SWB a good deal or the LWB is a rip-off? I compared the price and features of the two fully loaded versions. The following is the extra equipment the $85,947loaded LWB had over the $68,482 loaded SWB:
Pre-Collision and Dynamic Cruise $2,850
Advanced Parking System $700
Air Suspension and VGRS $2,120
Lexus Link $900
Upgraded Leather and headliner (not individually priced)
Rear Seat Upgrade $1,625
If you total all these extra features, you get $8,200 but the price difference between the two cars is $17,500. So for $9,300 I get extra leg room and upgraded leather. Am I missing something or did Lexus mess up the pricing?

landi

Oh, I forgot something! For the extra $9,300, you also get less trunk room!

Kirstie_H

Sorry for the confusion, landi - I moved it rather than deleted it. If you use the "my recent posts" link at the left, you can find your orignal post. I orignally made it a pricing discussion... goofed... now it's a "first drives" discussion. My bad.

nexuslexus

Well should that be the case, I will drive all three cars, and determine which has the best ride (I have a bad back, and need a supple ride) and then will do a cost/benefit analysis to determine which car to get.

ljflx

Landi.

I answered your post this morning but both our our posts were moved to the new board Kirstie created on the 2007 LS. In short a fully loaded SWB LS460 is $77K, not $68K. Add your $68K+ price to the $8K+ options. So the differentoal is maintained at the same $9-10K difference that you have at base prices not at $17K.

ljflx

I nominate my good friend Cyclone4 to create that board.

dennykrane

I,m lost.....Where is the "first drives " forums???

Thanks
DK :confuse:

dennykrane

Never mind, I just found It.

DK