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2. Optitron Gauges? All Toyota & Honda models have them, even the small cars as Corolla and Civic... Why not a "luxury" brand as Buick?
3. Make the outside mirrors a little bigger. (like the last gen. Impala). lately, all GM vehicles get very small mirrors. Also make sure it's auto-dim.
Upgrade headliner.
Increase gas mileage on Northstar would be nice
Reduced turning radius
Less of a "hump" in the rear set to allow a 3rd passenger back there.
Other than these nitpicks my CXS is a fine car, very similar to the MB 420SEL I owned a few years back.
The price was right with all the discounting going on.
The ride power and the Northstar exhaust note are great.
The Avalon and Azera look like toys next to it. The V8 does not need a 9 speed AT to put the power down. Smooth, quiet and fast....real old school....good old school
OTOH, I think this much car and motor need to be in a RWD chassis to fix the nose heavy handling and huge turning circle. I'd gladly buy a set of snows for winter driving to get RWD.
What want:
1) Bring back the nice big clock that I had in my '77 Electra- no glasses needed,
2) Bring back a dedicated clock...drives me crazy that when I change radio settings, the clock goes away,
3) Bring back the opera/flood lamps just under the lip of the dash, that I had on my '77 Electra,
4) Bring back the trunk opener next to the door that I now have on my Park Avenue- very convenient...blew me away that GM went back to the button in the glove box, plus it looked sooo retro...(cheap),
5) Haven't driven a Lucerne yet, but hope the transmission is mated to the engine far, far better than it is in my 2000 PA. P.s., my 1996 Roadmaster engine is perfectly mated to the transmission- pulls like a train (so why 4 years later is the Park Avenue so poorly interfaced???).
6) Shocks!!! Please GM, put some decent shocks on your cars- Bilsteins would be good...of all models, the GMC Yukons run Bilsteins...my 2000 Park Avenue would be a fabulous car, not just great, if it had world class shocks.
7) Telescoping steering wheel, like I had on my 1990 Buick Wagon (tilt and telescope). The wheel is too far away from me during long trips. The latest Honda Accord has a great, but simple, (elegant?) tilt/telescoping wheel.
8) Over the shoulder flood/reading lights like I had in my '77 Electra. They could be used without interfering with the driver!
9) Heated seats in the rear...how hard can that be??
10) Autodimming headlights...my 1957 Caddy (I bought when it was old and I was young, but I loved it for 25 years) had that and it was nice...again, how hard can that be?
11) Keep the Heads-up display...I have it, its great.
12) Publish every little torque spec for Buicks on a web site...shouldn't be a secret.
Let me note that the best seats in any car I have ever driven, including my Mercedes, all Buicks, and some other cars was: The 1988-89 Oldsmobile Toronado Trofeo!!! They were both beautiful, supportive, sporty and yet very comfortable. This was especially important, because they had a ride like a coal cart...terrible over tar strips and joints in the road- just about knocked your teeth loose. Without those seats, the ride would have been unbearable. GM had to re-do the various suspensions mountings because of so many reports of the bad ride...not so much stiff, as every little bump came directly through.
So get out the design of that seat from the '88-'89 Trofeo and Make It Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the above post:
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4. Widen the front seats.
I am more comfortable in the smaller
Buick Lacrosse seats as they measure 20 inches wide at the front of the seat and 20 inches at the rear of the seat.
My Lucerne is 20" in front but tapers down to 18" at the rear.
I chose a Full Size Car for it's ride and large interior volume,and paid more money for it.
The seats found in First Class Air provide extra room and are more comfortable than just those in "Coach"with adequate room.
Now please don't respond to say the seats are just perfect for you because some did agree with this issue in the Lucerne Interior Messages,and I am sure not one person would refuse first class seats if somehow they could be found in the entire plane!
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GM: PLEASE, READ AND REPLY.
WE would rather have more room in the seat, than
big map-pockets and an over sized arm rest.
If you can do it in Lacrosse, why not do it even BETTER in Lucerne?
We CHOOSE to buy your Full-size Buick, Please CHOOSE to listen:
This full size car SHOULD have COMFORT rated as,PRIORITY ONE !!!
Get rid of the cheap coin holders and put the real ones back in. The slots are more cumbersome to use and don't hold as many coins as they are designed to hold because the coins (at least the dimes) come out about 2/3's of the way up the slot.
And don't have the odometer in with the information center. You should be able to see the mileage on the car and some other bit of information, whether it be the average fuel ecomony or the fuel range, rather than to have to flip through the info center.
Drove an '07 Lucerne CX this week. Rental car since wife's car was hit.
Car was very nice. Quiet ride except for the Bridgestone tires. (Suggest Michelin). Seats (bucket) were cloth and comfortable. I can see where a large person might want more room at the base of the seat, but I like them.
Other than the tires, only complaint is the throttle and the throttle. Extremely sensitive to me (drive by wire?), as I had trouble holding steady speed. It was always in accel/decel mode. Also and annoying amount of vibration transmitted through the accelerator pedal. Even on the smoothest of roads, acceleration caused vibration. Never had this on my '95 Bonneville.
3.8 liter is adequate, although it sounds like it's breathing through a snorkel, sure to get29 or 30 on highway and last for 200,000 miles. I want one!
Second, Guess I am old...I can not read the odometer, tachometer, etc during daytime hours if I have sunglasses on. :shades: (It is still difficult without them.) Something needs to be done to correct this serious flaw.
Rocky
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Actually it has a really good feel to the stalk. However the stalks on my 93 and 98 H-body worked really great and NEVER broke.
>The 3.8 was also in that '85 and think it's time for a change.
You haven't kept up. The 3.8 has little resembled to the engineering of the 3800. Even the 3800 has three evolutions, improving efficiency and reliability. If you don't like ancient mechanics, whatever you mean by the term, you don't want wheels, automatic transmissions, internal combusion motors. They're all "ancient." grin.
If you mean you want OHV or 8-speed automatics, I'll take my 33 mpg LeSabre on interstate with 3 adults and luggage and the 150,000 mile motors and transmissions I now have in my LeSabres. I don't like being Beta tester for "new" technology. If my 4-speed 65E goes, I can replace it for 1/5 of what those 6-speeds would cost, using a factory rebuilt not a junkyard pull!!!
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Bill
Super & Roadmaster had 4. Started in 48 or 49 with Roadmaster having 4. Top of line.
One thing for sure is it will make a splash in the Large Luxury Car Market !!!!
Rocky
Thanks,
Rocky
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Well back to the 2011' RWD Buick Lucerne
Rocky
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Well the other rumor is pal the Buick Royaum could be built here. I've read on some GM blogs people say they think the Holden Statesman will be the Bonneville replacement as a G10 model. We will see soon as I'll keep y'all posted.
Rocky
Rocky
I don't know how to post pics but this link might help.
Rocky
Maybe not in exact form, but that is the Pontiac G8!
-Brian
http://www.netcarshow.com/buick/2005-royaum/1600x1200/wallpaper_03.htm
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=104224
http://www.babez.de/buick/royaum/pic04.jpg?PHPSESSID=c0d3ea11ed4c06f5629d0d7d93d- - - 78b2e
Great Interior Pics:
http://www.netcarshow.com/buick/2005-royaum/1600x1200/wallpaper_0b.htm
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The top model has a control system like the Lexus LS 460, well that's what I saw in a pic shown here on automotive news & views.
Rocky
The Royaum is the old Statesman.
Thats the car that Lutz blew his shorts over and was responsible for getting the GTO project off the ground.
The China boys will be getting the new WM Statesman.
There are two models here, Statesman and Caprice.
One of them, I forget which one offhand is a sportier version. Body kit etc:
The G8 is based on the Holden Commodore SS, which is a bloody good car.
The Staties have a longer wheelbase.
Saw one yesterday with 20"s on it, nice
Guys who don't know much about any of these cars, go check out the website, www.holden.com.au
ps, Had a look at those WM Statie pics Rocky.
If you click on the Caprice link you can see that the Caprice is the more sportier looking one.
Guys, those pics don't really give a good indication of the shear size of the Statesman.
I'll tell you now, It's bigger than a Chrysler 300c.
You know, that gangster car looking thing, we have them here as well.
-Love the Aussie/British language.
Rocky
P.S.
Here in the U.S. we have to watch out for deer. I would probably crash mate from shock watching a Kangaroo bounce across my road as it would be so bloody awkward. :P
You never know which way they will hop!
I once counted about 50 fresh killed Roos between Cairns and Townsville one night.
The big Semi Trailers just mow them down.
We have some massive trucks here,
triple trailers.
I'll post a vid of one.
That Royaum is no longer made, that was the old one.
You should try overtaking one of these monsters.
They sit on the speed limit,110kmh.
1st time I got behind one of these and moved over
to pass it, I saw how long it was and nearly
shat myself!
Blessed to the God of acceleration
Thats ashame as it was a nice automobile. :sick:
Rocky