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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/green-motoring/7166444/Is-diesel-dead.html
"Britain's North Sea oil is also ill suited for diesel production." "Most of Europe's refining capacity is getting long in the tooth and was set up largely to create petrol. It's now finding that it is squeezing more diesel out of equipment ill suited to the task..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml54UuAoLSo
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I have one on my Jeep Liberty CRD and they are also on the Cummins in Dodge trucks and on the Duramax found in G.M. products as well as many EU diesels.
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Any time someone mentions purchase and 'making up costs', they should also consider how much of that value is retained.
You don't lose $50,000 when you purchase a $50,000 car (excluding taxes and interest). You lose $50,000-sales price.
Diesel trucks and SUVs in the US usually have up to 50% higher resale after 5-10 years than gasoline counterparts depending on make, model, equivalent mileage and condition (not an exaggeration).
For example, I'd gladly own a Dodge Cummins diesel for 10 years and pay $7000 more for it at purchase, knowing full well I'll make that back at sale time. That's a constant. Gas Dodge/Ford/Chevy trucks never have more favorable depreciation than their diesel cousins.
Total cost of ownership people. Total cost of ownership.
Fail article is fail.
For me it would not even be considered. I have bought my last new gas vehicle EVER. I knew better when I did it. Big mistake and a much bigger money loser when I unload it.
Media still regularly pumping us full of US anti-diesel prejudice. Sadly, say it enough times openly and people will keep believing it.
Nice to hear the voice of reason and truth. Of course, the cospiracy theorists may well brand you as a "Big Oil Lackey" but you and I, at least, know the truth. (I'm also retired ex-big oil, albeit in UK). Their aim is to maximise profit from their crude with whatever mix the market place wants. Simple really.
Oil companies want to sell oil. If that oil is converted into diesel, or into jet fuel, or whatever other hundreds of bi-products made from it, they could care less.
There are MANY valid reasons (which I and others have posted before) that diesel passenger cars are not a big success in the USA, and "anti-diesel conspiracy" ain't one of them.
Nice to hear the voice of reason and truth.
Yeah, you beat me to it. I mean, think about it... The oil companies are against a product that is cheaper and easier to make? Next people will be saying that Knudsen is against yogurt and is instead only favoring cheese. Um... yeah... :P
The real issue is CARB. California represents about 10% of the entire U.S. market by itself and as such the makers understandably don't want to have to design two vehicles for the U.S. market if they can possibly get away with it - or lose 10-20% of their sales in this market for a vehicle that can't be sold in California.
They'd just switch production ratios and the price would remain about the same. Currently Europe is in love with diesels because their industry is subsidized to have lower diesel prices(plus taxes and other factors. Here in the U.S., there is no such program, so diesel is roughly the same price. But you do get more miles per gallon, so it's a net gain for the consumer, though not nearly the landslide that it is over in Europe.
Send crude to a refinery. Add pressure and heat. The higher the pressure and heat, the higher the grade of product. Diesel, jet fuel, home heating fuel, gasoline, alcohol. Basic chemistry. This is only a few of the things in the process.
Before the crude (oil) goes to a refinery it has to be treated Some will eat holes in your clothes and can will coat the inside of pipe and have to be scraped out. Some crude is almost like a dark cheap gasoline. I've seen people burned it in their old junk cars during WWII. Not so good on your car but when you ran out of gas stamps people would do a lot of things.
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We had some sweet light crude in one Arctic field that the oil companies were using in their generators and trucks.
Conspiracy or not, there certainly is a 'movement' afoot. And I think Big Oil will have to adapt to it the same as the consumer.
Battery companies, electric car companies, the mainstream media, CARB, the Fed... all 100% want the public to be convinced that the US greenhouse gas production from automobiles is a major contributing factor to global warming (blah blah blah. I'm not discrediting global warming, I'm saying cars ain't the problem!)...
and their solution is to charge headlong into other forms of stored energy without exploring the obvious, immediate, and effective one (diesel).
The ones that have the money for now may be Big Oil, but everyone else wants it, so they'll reshuffle distribution in their favor (against all economic logic, and against consumer demand) via legislation.
Problem is... the consumer is not really getting a choice in the matter.
If I had to choose between Big Oil and Big Electric, I'll take Oil. At least when prices get too high, you can cut back on oil for your personal use, and eventually when shipping businesses start boycotting oil prices they 'reset' themselves (see 2008). But when was the last time you saw your bill for Big Electric go down significantly per kWh? That's an even greater monopoly, and the greater of 2 evils, IMO.
Big Oil reps on the forum are saying Big Oil believes in supply/demand. I'm all about capitalism. This whole gov't sponsorship of expensive battery technology reeks of the same stench as the ethanol debacle. Its about money for a mostly useless product.
Just my $0.02.
I am sure CARB is controlled by ECO NUTS in Sacramento and Hollywood. The EPA has never been favorable to diesel cars. They always under rate them to try and keep sales down. Which makes them undesirable to sell in the USA.
Do you really think the oil companies would be happy about 50% of the vehicles being sold running on diesel? That is a big cut in profit and it leaves them with a lot of gasoline to dispose of. My understanding is we are buying a lot of surplus gas from the UK at present.
The more popular they become, the higher they will be priced plus diesel fuel prices will also go up. The status quo is fine with me. One good small diesel from Japan would be nice just to give the European diesels some competition.
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The real issue is the EPA and CARB being butt heads. They make it just enough of a problem to sell diesel passenger vehicles in the U.S. that the makers don't bother. Also, you'll note that where they CAN easily sell them, say, big full size trucks, diesels account for a significant amount of their total sales.
The difference then is what's happening between a diesel F250 and a diesel Focus? Right. Paperwork and regulations. Because where it IS already easy, they do it already.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Ouch! Consider that a turbo gasoline engine is down around "350°C on the bowl".
http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/011002.html
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405 lb ft torque and for you non-diesel HP people 235 HP.
Meets stringent European emissions.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
No problem with registration as I already own the recipient truck. Only issue I'm working on is researching the compatibility of wiring harness and OBD for the Navarra to Frontier.