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  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    does any one know if there is a 4WD or AWD tranny with the same bolt pattern as a T56 viper tranny?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I don't know of any AWD or 4WD tranny's that have been installed on a Viper or Viper motor, however, the Dodge SRT8 AWD trans or the Dodge Ram with the Viper block *May* bolt up to it. Give us some more insight on what you are looking to do and perhaps we can give you an alternative.

    -mike
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    am in the process of swapping a straight 6 for a 440. I have an adapter plate to bolt a viper T56 to the motor but would kinda like 4WD capabilities. I like the 6 gears in the T56 but it don't 4X4!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    hmmmm... well, it seems we've got conflicting interests here. lots of power and a 6-speed stick vs viable off-roading. I mean, my understanding is that automatic is the way to go for hard-core off-roading. OR a manual with granny gears. Neither of which is found in a viper.

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Or is he looking for AWD performance ala Chevy SS or Denali PU?

    -mike
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    hmmm... maybe. I guess stating "4x4" makes me automatically think of off-roading.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Oh and I agree, AT is way better offroading. I've driven both offroad and MTs just wind up getting you stuck when you least expect or need it.

    -mike
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    sorry I forgot to put the vehicle in there. The swap is happening in a 96 cherokee. I', not really going for rock crawling type of off roading, more mud slinging and trail cruising. she's only getting a 3 inch over stock lift. My delima comes from the severe hatred of getting passed by the "fast and Furious" groupies. Hence the reasoning behind the 520 hp 440. I was wanting th 6 speed trans and change out 1st for the granny low to better crawl around the mud. I really believe the cherokee is light enough to take off in town out of second. and if I happen to be pulling something a little hefty (some poor honda with the parking break on) I still have 1st gear!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Well, you do realize that much power in a lifted jeep going after the "F&F" folks will result one day in a bad rollover. I'd seriously consider going one way or the other with it, hard to find something that does both well.

    -mike
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    am putting 10 inch wide tires under it to try and hold that off for a while, but yes I do realize that it will be a matter of time before I am upside down it my creation. BUT do we know where I can get the bolt pattern measurements for the T56 and NV5600 transmissions?
  • hondakid251hondakid251 Member Posts: 3
    i have a 1995 honda civic dx and i was wondring what kind of engines would fit in it that would make this car faster and what all i can add to this car to make it faster.
  • wsustudentwsustudent Member Posts: 35
    You have an excellent generation civic for an engine swap. The B16a engine will fit or b18c1. Both of those are out of the previous generation Integras, Ls and Gsr models respectively. If you really want to go all out you could go for the h22a out of the prelude but you would probably need suspension mods for the extra weight. Most stick with the b16a or b18c1 for that Civic. Turbos will give you the most effective horsepower increase off those motors but make sure you research that topic carefully and do it right the first time if you want the motor to last for any extended period of time.
  • hondakid251hondakid251 Member Posts: 3
    hey thanks for your help, i might consider the h22a, and i will probably wind up getting some new suspension mods mainly because i do plan on making my civic into a racer, what kind of rims do u think would look good on my car its all back.
  • wsustudentwsustudent Member Posts: 35
    Also consider that I while I think b16a and b18c1 are the same engine mount pattern as your d15 that is in there now so it would be mostly a direct swap, the h22a may not be. The b18c1 and h22a are the same horsepower output (200), but the h22a probably gives more torque due to more displacement; 2.0 liter in the h22a versus 1.8 liter (i think) in the b18c1. The b16 puts out 160 hp.

    As far as the wheels go, the only one that can determine if they look good or not is yourself. You are the owner of the car. Have fun with it! Dress it to your personal appearance and how you like it. You are the one who should care the most about it, everyone is always going to have their subjective opinion on cosmetic upgrades no matter what you do to it. If you really want a suggestion on a wheel that is popular with that vehicle, then go to your local tire/wheel shop and they can give you suggestions since they install custom wheels on these vehicles all the time. If you want uniqueness though, that would be up to you to decide.

    Good luck and have fun!
  • hondakid251hondakid251 Member Posts: 3
    ok hey thanks for your input again and i think that if they put out the same amount of hp then i think ill go with the b18c1 just because its gonna b a more direct swap thanks again
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    What kind of racing do you plan to do? Road Racing? Drag Racing? Autoxing?

    -mike
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    have located the adapter plate for the 440/viper engine and tranny combo. WILCAP mopar adapters has just about every adapter plate to hook any trans to any any engine. Very pleased with them.
  • drgadedipedrgadedipe Member Posts: 8
    the engine is a Chevrolet V8. if ne1 knows any modification i could to the engine a list would be g8
    i will be very thankfull.
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    big block or small block? 383 350? 496? or could swap out for an LS1
  • drgadedipedrgadedipe Member Posts: 8
    267 small block Chevrolet V8. what is 'LS1'?
    i dont really wanna swap the engine yet, i jus wanna enhance the performance of the engine like super or turbo charging or changing the cam. those sort of things.
  • 440jeep440jeep Member Posts: 12
    Gen III chevy 5.7L (346 ci). Throw a set of LS6 heads on it A 90mm intake, 90mm throttle body and should make a little over 450 hp, maybe more.
  • sacxivsacxiv Member Posts: 8
  • wyzard1wyzard1 Member Posts: 1
    I am looking at replacing the motor in my 1965 Ranchero, which was a factory V8 4 spd. car. The engine was replaced at some time with a 1975 302, and they kept the original 4 spd. I think. I now have available to me a newer 302 from the mid '90s. I want to use the original 4 spd. tranny in the car, intake, distributor, etc. What kind of problems might I encounter? Will ther be balancing concerns, or physical fitment?
  • kin0689kin0689 Member Posts: 6
    I have acquired an I6 from a Trailblazer/with auto. My Canyon has a manual 5 sp. From all I've learned, the ECU is the same but I'm concerned about other wiring, engine balance due to flywheel switch, engine mount location, exhaust size etc. Anyone have any ideas or experience at this? I'm sure I can fab the rad mounts further ahead, but it would be nice to get some feedback. :)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    hmm the question is why? Seems like a lot of work for not much gain. I'd sell the I6 and look for one of the V8s or go with a crate motor V8 for the canyon.

    -mike
  • kin0689kin0689 Member Posts: 6
    I want more torque and more power but want to keep mileage near as good. Seems like a no brainer
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    It's just a mountain of work for so little gain, guaranteed you will run into issues with doing such a swap and you have to consider the gains v. time/effort involved to do the swap. I'm not terribly familiar with the I5 v. I6 power/milage setups but I'm thinking that with much simplier bolt-ons you could gain the power of the I6 while retaining the I5

    -mike
  • kin0689kin0689 Member Posts: 6
    Its the challenge boys. Man does not do things 'cause they are easy, he does them because they are difficult, and I don't think this is gonna be that difficult.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    :) I hear yah, you are talking to someone who just converted a 1994 Subaru Legacy Turbo into a road race car. Everyone told me "just buy a road race car already built" It hasn't been cheap or easy, but so far it's proving to be fun.

    -mike
  • jensaroojensaroo Member Posts: 4
    lol, so i bought a 16v engine from a 1993 passat for my 1990 jetta 8v, and i need help.

    I'm a gung-ho kind of guy, as is evident, cause i have never really worked on cars very much. i have the talent, just not the experience.

    I need to know exactly how transferable these engines are. like, will i need a new tranny? will i need a new distributer?... actually i have no idea what else i will need besides the engine.

    I have a friend who did this very same swap, but he isnt all that accessible. (work and school and stuff) so I need help from you guys.

    any info you can spare would be awesome, web sites, tutorials, anything!

    thanks!
    JensAroo
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I am no expert by any means, but I'd have to say that the trans will likely bolt up, however the electronics may or may not work.

    -mike
  • jensaroojensaroo Member Posts: 4
    i was the one about swapping an 8valve for a 16valve in my 1990 jetta

    someone told me it would be more time efficient to just put a 2.0 block on my 8valve head
    is that true? will i need a different tranny? (cause these trannys swap, but the 16v has different gears) different computer? different wiring?

    ugh

    thanks!
  • gohikinggohiking Member Posts: 1
    Hi, I heard I can swap my 2004 Yukon engine for a diesel engine. I was told that the engines should line up correctly. Any thoughts out there ??
  • tomcat63tomcat63 Member Posts: 82
    Converting grandpa´s broken-winged Jetta into something "driveable" used to be (and partly still is) quite popular here in Germany, too.
    As a mechanic who worked 15 years in a Volkswagen shop I´d pretty much like to help you. But as I learned meanwhile, the US-version engines sometimes are significantly different from their original German/European counterparts.
    As 8valve gasser the old ´90 Jetta was available here with 1.1, 1.3, 1.6 and 1.8 liter engines, and I guess your´s is a 1.8 liter.
    In general I can tell you that the 2.0 block definetly would´nt match with the 1.8 8V cylinderhead, due to bigger bore and different gasket layout. It doesn´t make much sense anyways, because basically it´s the 16V cylinderhead including the multipoint injection system being responsible for increased power. You will have to swap the entire engine and related auxiliaries to obtain satisfying results.
    If you could check out the engine codes (the Passat 2.0 16V should be 9A) I might be able to give you some advice.
  • edoc1edoc1 Member Posts: 2
  • edoc1edoc1 Member Posts: 2
    I have just finished a swap and I am have a horrible fuel mpg problem. The orginal engine gave me 23 to 30 mpg while this motor is only giving me 12 to 15 mpg. This is my first swap. What should do to correct this? The engines have the same make and model (92 toyota corolla)
  • v8rodeoguy1v8rodeoguy1 Member Posts: 1
    ive got a 94 rodeo 2x4 with a 350 and Z-28 5 speed easy swap plus factory dana 44 runs like champ what do you wanna know?
  • oneepatoneepat Member Posts: 1
    Question:

    Could anyone out there help me?
    I recently over the weekend swapped a 94 Camry engine for a 92 Camry engine. Reason being was that the rod had cracked the block of the 94, thus the swap. At any rate, the fuse boxes on the two engine are different (do not ask me as to why is that). We dropped the engine wired everything up to fit the fuse box for the 94 even though the engine we put in the car is a 92. Now the problem is the car will not crank, although everything else is working properly. We checked and re-checked the wiring.

    Now should we re-wire the harness to fit the 92-fuse box since the engine is a 92?

    Please can someone help me?
  • bahamianpulsarbahamianpulsar Member Posts: 1
    Hello guys,
    I was wondering if anybody could help me? I was thinking about doing an enigne swap on my 1989 Nissan Pulsar NX Coupe. It already has a 1.6L and I want to upgrade to a 2.0L GTI-R. Could this swap be done? And if so, what all parts do I need. Like mounts, fans etc. Some people say that it could be done but the problem is finding a front wheel drive manual tranny that will line up to the engine. My car is FWD and the pulsar GTI-R engines only comes with AWD Transmission. Has anyone out there did this swap before? Thanks guys I'm new to this site so I jus Want to say hello to ALL!!!!!!! :shades: :)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The pulsar was available with AWD?

    The other issues include wiring harnesses, ECUs, maybe a cross member. I've done swaps of WRX motors into 1st Gen Imprezas and it's usually a PITA due to a lot of things not working/aligning properly.

    -mike
  • james80james80 Member Posts: 1
    I have an old 85 escort. But im more into the Import scene. I was thinking of dropping a larger more powerful motor into it. I was thinking a Subaru Impreza motor or even better a Evo 8 motor. But would it fit and what else would e have to do for it to be compatibal.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I wouldn't suggest it. An impreza motor is longitudial so it wouldn't go in at all. You might get an evo motor in but it would cost many many thousands of dollars to do it.

    -mike
  • 472caddy472caddy Member Posts: 1
    Hey I'm about 80% finished with a Rodeo V8 swap. What kind of problems have others run into.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hmm, digging deep into my memory, I think the biggest issue was the adapters for the trans/transfer case.

    -mike
  • bmfan1bmfan1 Member Posts: 4
    I might be getting a 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V, and was wondering if a RB26DETT (or lesser variant) could fit into the engine bay without (very) serious modification.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    not a chance. Well, I don't know if the engine will physically fit. It might. But it will never work in that car because it is a longitudinally mounted I6. Your car is a FWD vehicle, meaning it needs a transverse mounted engine.

    I'm not sure why you'd want to mod a 2-year-old top-of-the-line nissan pocket rocket anyway. ???

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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Yeah the best you could do would be a DE24T (Silvia Motor) into that car, but as qbrozen said, you probably are better off doing some mods to the Spec V. Heck I'm looking for a Spec V as a commuter car as we speak :)

    -mike
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    they were selling for dirt cheap on the new side toward the end of each model year. Good buy, i think.

    i realize now i misspoke in my last post. I said I don't know why you'd want to mod the car, but what I meant was I don't know why you'd want to replace the engine. Mods, of course, are always welcome. :)

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  • bmfan1bmfan1 Member Posts: 4
    i knew what you meant hah
  • phil45phil45 Member Posts: 1
    Bottom line........ Is it possible to put a 96 Impala SS engine in my 77 Olds Cutlass Supreme? Both are 350's, I want to go from the olds carbed 350 to the impala fuel injected 350 for easy performances mods, better fuel economy, updating, and to make a good everyday driver as well. How hard would this be? Any other mods have to be made?
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