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Breathe Easy: Int. & Exh. Headers + Mufflers and Pipes



  • sudan1sudan1 Posts: 2
    I want to add speed and agility to this old car. I'm planning on restoring this old machine with (hopefully) some new technology. Thank you 4 your quick response.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    Well I think you should give up the idea of speed (car is too heavy and engine is too lazy) but what you can do to "go faster" is better tires and shocks and perhaps a front sway bar to firm up the ride. You'll enjoy driving it more. A freer flowing exhaust would make it sound nicer too I think.

    If you want an SL that is quicker and more agile but still looks like your car, you really want a 560SL. But I think trying to make your car faster would be very expensive and very frustrating in terms of results. Some engines are just not designed in that way.

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  • mattsopmattsop Posts: 1
    After stumbling across this site and stumbling across this post, I have to say - be proud of who you are, there are too few of us around that will admit it!
    I too am the owner of another 1986 Hyundai Pony, and I know all too well of the troubles you face when trying to go out and pimp your ride, so hold faith, because you are not alone!

    In reply to your question, my 'expert' opinion would to be go ahead and giv'r. A lot of mufflers are universal fit, and built only in korea and canada still counts as universal, i suppose. You might have a bit of work fitting it to the exhaust pipe, though, I think it's something disgustingly small like 1 1/4" or something. But im acutally planning on rigging up a performance muffler on my next trip into the city, so i can keep you posted on what happens here.
    As to the tip, i dont think it makes too big of a difference, expecially on the Ponies. As long as you dont put something on meant for like drag cars that will give you no backpressure at all (although the rest of that 1 1/4 exhaust should give ample anyways) you should be fine.

    But if you ever come across anything in your travels regarding getting a body kit on a pony i would love if you could send it my way - i want one so bad!

    keep fighting the good fight, we're a small crowd out there - we should swap pics/tips sometime
  • purrnakpurrnak Posts: 4
    So I went an took an honest look at my Hyundai pony. Damn these things just won't die.

    List of things wrong with it:
    1. Head gasket was "repaired" with some goo the previous owner put on it. It's needed replacing for the last 3 years.
    2. The tires are bald to the point where I have to put air in one of them daily.
    3. The shifter knob broke off my second week of driving it and replaced it with a shift knob that didn't fit right.
    4. Windows have a plastic edge that pops up and scares the hell out of me when it's warm
    5. Ball joint on the right is gone (that's the tire that needs air daily)
    6. Gas gage only works when you slam on the breaks
    7. Everything leaks. YOu name it there's a drip
    8. Back left break blew a gasket and the break fluid ate away the breaks. Now I stop with pure force at times.
    9. If you look under the hood at night with no lights you see little blue sparks everywhere... FUN! this was fixed by putting in new spark plugs and cables.

    Okay getting to the point. The cars a piece of crap but it runs and it's sooo easy to tune up.

    I'm doing what people told me to do. I'm buying a car on Saturday 2 days (I'm going crazy) I'm getting a car that I have loved since the first time I saw it. I test drove it last week and I fell even more in love. A 1992 Talon. Beautiful car.

    I'm taking it to a garage for a full inspection so I can see where I need to put money in. I'm wondering if there are any points I should look at carefully.

    So far the known issues with the talon are the timing belt (Should be replaced every 50,000 miles or less or you get hit with a $2000 job. Anything else I should know.

    Last question: Anyone know a good forum specifically for this car? I want to do a lot of mods over the next few years on it and wouldn't mind a place to fall back on if I have questions. (The engine looks like a pain to work in compared to the pony, but after looking at the engine on pages for days and days, it doesn't look that bad.)
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Posts: 215
    Actually, if your Talon has the 1.8 liter engine, a broken belt will only leave you stranded. It is not an interference engine. If you have the 2.0 liter, then you really want to stay on top of belt maintenance, as it is an interference engine.
  • anndruu12anndruu12 Posts: 1
    I just purchased an '05 VW GTI 1.8T and am looking to put an aftermarket exhaust on. I have always been into the Japanese Import Scene but am trying to get into the Euro scene. I am looking for an aftermarket exhaust of high quality and a good sound. I don't want any buzzing and a loud annoying exhaust noise. I had been looking at a few and I will post links.
    1.) The one on there is of course the only one that fits the Golf IV.
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    I was looking at the 2.5 inch turbo back
    The second on the page
    I do not know which system there would be best for my car.

    Thanks ahead of time for all your help and guidance.
  • only1harryonly1harry NYPosts: 1,140
    You will have even worse luck with your '92 Talon. They 're nothing but trouble once they get up over 100k mi. I know because my neighbor has one, 2 of my friends had one and my best friend owns a garage and says the old Eclipses & Talons keep him in business sometimes.

    After 100k mi., you will have expensive repairs not like that older car you were talking about. You 'll have check engine lights come on, you 'll need a new tranny, new computer, electrical problems, etc. We 're talking big $$ to keep your Talon running. Good luck, you 'll need it.
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  • bginsberg1bginsberg1 Posts: 10
    I'm looking for ANY WAY to increase my gas mileage and I'm thinking of putting a Gibson performance muffler on my truck. From what I've read, it should increase my mpg by maybe 2-3?

    Has anyone else out there done this to a similar V-8 engine and if so, can you share what, if any, benefits you're seeing now?
  • fredmcmurrayfredmcmurray Posts: 215
    I seriously doubt an exhaust is going to raise your MPG by that much. That's, what, a 15-20% increase? I'd be surprised if there a difference you could detect at all.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    You'd have to have potatoes stuck up your exhaust pipe to have such an increase with a new muffler. I agree, it won't make any difference, especially if your car has a catalytic converter.

    If you bought an efficient and complete "cat-back" exhaust system with free-flow catalytic as well, you might get 3 or 4 horsepower and perhaps a teeny bit better mileage.

    If mufflers could increase mileage 20%, manufacturers would have installed them years ago obviously.

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  • i have a 2005 V6 toyota tacoma and i was wondering what the best exhaust system i can get for it.what kind sounds the best with a V6
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    I'm not sure if this company makes an exhaust for your particular vehicle but strictly for sound I really like ANSA systems.

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  • I currently have the Greddy SP2 Exhaust on my car and i was thinking about purchasing the Blitz Nur Spec exhaust and was wondering if anybody knew how it sounded on this car or if they know that it sounds good with this vehicle and i was also wondering if i put headers and a down pipe on the car will it make a big difference in the way the exhaust sounds therefore i wont have to change it please write back if you have any suggestions or if you konow thanko you
  • bajookbajook Posts: 1
    Will cutting off the catalytic converter help give my car more power. It is a 1997 honda civic dx. I would like to find any web links where i can see where i could and how to get it done.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    I think you'd be much smarter to install a high-flow catalytic converter. Taking yours off has unpredictable results since your car's engine management system may be linked to your catalytic and cause possible loss of power, increased fuel consumption and the engine light to stay on all the time.

    A high-flow cat with cat back exhaust might give you something like 8-12HP total.

    Also as you may know, removing your catalytic is totally illegal.

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  • icetre4icetre4 Posts: 1
    I have a 2004 Cavalier LS Sport. I work for my Dad who is a small dealer and we bought it with the intention to sell but after driving the car for awhile I decided I'd buy it. When we bought it it already had a cold air intake and headers. The previous owners also had put in a cat back exhaust but with no muffler. Needless to say, it was soooo loud. So we took it to the muffler shop and got a magnaflow performance muffler on it and that made it much quieter and acceptable. But as I've driven it more it's either gotten louder or I just forgot how loud it used to be, but either way I am annoyed with the noise, mainly on the highway at high speeds. So I've been looking for ways to quiet it down and I read about resonators. My plan is to get a resonator installed somewhere between the converter and muffler, and maybe get an exhaust tip that is also a resonator. While they're welding things I thought I might as well throw in a high flow cat and see if that would help my power at all. My question is: The high flow cat has no sensor socket. The resonator does. If I plugged the sensor into the resonator which would be down the pipe a bit, would it still pass emissions like it should? Would I be risking that or getting a check engine light? I don't know much when it comes to exhaust and things. Please help and sorry for the long story.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    That sounds like a question that could only be answered by experiment. There are too many variables I think to make a prediction as to what would happen. I wonder why the high flow cat has no sensor socket?

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  • Hello, i have a 5.0 88 tbird only thing added to it was flowmaster exhaust was wonder how much hp / torque that adds plus how to make it fast n quick and does anyone know how much this car weighs
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    I depends a lot on the car but probably no more than 8-12 HP.

    There are tons of things you can do to that engine. Time for some homework to plan your project!

    Here's a book you might enjoy looking at. It's cheap from Amazon: It also lists other books you might find helpful.

    Engine Tuning 5.0 Liter


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  • I have to replace my stock 2001 MDX muffler & exhaust due to car accident. Is there a replacement aftermarket that will improve performance either HP or fuel economy.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    I think only if you use a free flow catalytic. If you just attach pipes to your existing catalytic, I think you'll get more noise and very little HP.

    Again, you have to think of your car's engine as part of a LONG pipe...starting from the air intake to the air filter and ending at the tailpipe. If you don't do stuff in the middle, doing things at either end really can't alter the situation a great deal....a little but not much if you look at it this way.

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  • Hey guys,

    As known with the 5.4s I have exhaust manifold problems/ w/studs. The passenger's side has a crack in it and the drivers side needs to be removed, magnafluxed/planed and put back on. Should I replace them with headers or replace/repair/ the stock ones. If headers are the trick, what about sensors and stuff- one hypo shop says they aren't an issue, but a Ford dealer says my engine light would be onall the time (Ford dealer I believe was assuming). One guy told me to keep stock remove the muffler and run straight back off the cat. (sounds gay)Should I take out the y-pipe and run duals to the back? What has someone tried and figured out before I spend time and money with this thing- I want to get more HP out of it if the price is all the same. Am swapping in a Airaid air intake system too.
  • Hey can anyone help me find a company that makes a performance intake or a universal do it your self kit for my 1986 325? I have checked all the main companies like k&n, AEM, Injen ect. and have had no luck. Any help would be great. Thanks Dan.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    try these guys:

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  • Wow, holy crap man these guys have everything! Thank you for the really big help. :)
  • I've got a 2005 v6 Mustang with a JBA Dual exit exhaust. I can't stand the way it sounds now. It is loud and sounds like sport compact. Is there any way I can get it to hum like a V8 or am I dreaming?
  • Hey i need to know what is the best type of header to get for my car, also what would be a great way to get the most HP gain for my car. I have a 2001 Honda Civic Ex 1.7L SOHC Vtech with a short ram AEM cold air intake and a Full Exhaust system. Im wondering what the best type of header with the most power gain. Is there anything else i should invest my money into to get more power.

    Thanks :D
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    Maybe a set of Flowmasters with a diameter equal to the diameter of stock but a flow-through design. I don't think you'll quite get the pulse of a V8 but you might get rid of the fartcan sound.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,570
    I think if you are going to go into a full intake header than you'll need to upgrade the engine internals to some extent.

    Think of your system as ONE LONG can open one end and then the other end but as you can see, if you don't do something to the middle, the returns diminish rapidly no matter how much you spend opening the ends.

    I don't know enough to advise you on how you might cam this motor but you need to think this out in terms of a total process...if you are putting more and more air into the engine then you need more fuel to get more power. The only real "power" in air is if you turbocharge, and even there you'll need intercooling and bigger injectors to tame all that hot air.

    I'm sure the many vtec boards have figured all this out.

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  • tgwjrx06tgwjrx06 Posts: 4
    Does anyone here know where I can find tuning products for the '05 5.7L HEMI?

    I am looking particularly for headers and a supercharger and possibly a way to disable the governor's chip? I top out at around 110/115? I am fairly new to this so looking for all the help i can get to make my JGC as quick as possible (I got the 5.7L cause I wanted the tow package just in case (I live in PA) otherwise I would have got an SRT-8) But it is nice to take off the emblems on the back and watch the rice-burners cry

    Currently I have:
    AIR-AID Mass/Cold air intake w/tube
    BORLA Cat-back exhaust
    JET Stage-1 Chip
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