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OTOH, I think that the packaging of the Commander is great, less claustrophobic than the JGC. And yes the Commander appears bigger than it actually is, altho it is the least bit tipsy and body roll is checked in the usual Jeep standard-very good. Some may say that the 3rd-seat is cramped. Maybe for some, not for others. Other than the Durango, LR3, and the GMT 360 long wheelbase SUV's, they're all pretty much lacking. And that's why the industry has what are called FULL-SIZE SUV's, a la Suburban, Expedition, Armada, Sequoia- even Durango for that matter. If all you are buying for is third seat room, then the Commander is not for you. Neither is Explorer. Neither is Pathfinder. Neither is 4-Runner, and the list goes on and on.
As I've stated before, if you're in the market for an extremely capable do-all SUV, the Commander is top 2 choice, Durango being the other in this price league.
P.S.- ExploderX4, I might let you grab a hold on to my rear grab bars when your Explorer goes off the deep end only if you'll stop ragging on the Commander's 3rd seat and criticize something else. Oh, I forgot there is nothing else to say but how the Commander is a great SUV.
Currently, I'm averaging 13.3 on my Land Rover LR3 with 760 miles (300 hp). It's mostly city driving. I also put pencil to paper and I find the computer to be accurate.
Blkhemi, is your 18.1 mpg a combination of city and hwy, and if so, what percentage? That seems really high for a HEMI and that is wonderful if that's what you are actually getting. Have you checked the accuracy of your computer readout?
In the two Grand Cherokee's I had in the past, I got really good hwy averages. The '96 had the 4.0 6 cylinder (195 hp) and the '99 had the 4.7 V8 (235 hp).
Mark
Some owners of HEMI-equipped JGC's are reporting as much as 20.5 mpg, so 18.1 is feasible.
As for Explorerx4's 9mpg HEMI Ram report, I too have a HEMI-equipped Ram and I average about 14 mpg overall, with more driving done in the city. Just an FYI, the SRT-10 Ram with a V-10 motor gets 10/15, according to the EPA. So you can't always rely on that.
Kerri
This is the first SUV or truck I have ever owned - as well as the first American car, kinda scary - so I have nothing else to compare. If the EPA says 14/18 and I am averaging somewhere in the middle, I am content.
My other two cars require 91 Octane. The Commander only needs 89. This saves me $0.10 per gallon and in my mind makes the 16.5 MPG not so bad.
Thank you, Kerri
I found that the seats in the Commander were supportive. But that goes with the saying that some people like firm, others like soft cushions, sort of like the mattress on your bed. And your dealer was right, there is no other way to adjust the seat other than the way DC made the controls.
As for your mileage, with only 3 weeks of driving, your mileage is sure to go up. If you're using the Commander's computer readout, then that along with all other car's computers sometimes give faulty readings. And this is why I do the math myself. And found out yesterday that my MPG has risen to 18.7 MPG overall. HOWEVER, I do have cold-air intake and upgraded exhaust systems on my Commander that gives it better mileage.
A little change of subject, I was able to get a GMID (General Motors In the Driveway) discount from GM, It saved me a bundle on my H3. Does Jeep have any discount programs like that? Does anybody know of a DC program like this? My wife is looking at a Commander and it would sure help convince me to look at one a little more closely. Any one posting the prices they are paying for their Commanders on here?
If so, then yes, DC has a program similar to GM's. It is called family and friends discount. It, along with other offers saved my son about 5k on his Charger R/T.
I also hope the Challenger comes back. The re-sell prices of an original unmolested sample bring huge money at the car auctions.
Mark
If you decide to sell, don't let the bubble pass. My understanding is that cars from the 20's and 30's are losing their value as the "admirers" begin to die off. A Duesenberg is a nice gorgeous rare car but those who would pay 2 million dollars for one are becoming a smaller and smaller group (many people have the means to buy one, the group of enthusiasts are dwindling).
With the Challenger, you have a good 20 years before the next phase comes through. :P
Mark
Thanks.
IMHO the fake bolts are rather cheesy. I have a Limited that I bought because of the equipment package on it, but I actually prefer the look of the standard.
Base on my own research including reading this panel.
Jeep commander 4x4 limited with a hemi engine fully loaded should roughly be $44K (TT&L inclued) also check the freedom of mileage offer by jeep and dealer discount.
I am still searching for the best deal.
I just saw an offer of 7years (70,000 miles) extended warranty by jeep on the commander. is this correct?
If anyone can answer this question I'll be greatfull
sam4
In 1984 I bought my first black car, a new 1984 Peugeot 505 STI. I noticed over time that I started getting swirl marks in the paint, also known as "spider webs".
I searched and searched for a good wax and came across "Malm's" car products in my car magazine.
I bought the 2 step process that I have been using for over 20 years. The first bottle is "Malm's Polishing Cleaner". You put it on the car in the direction that the wind blows, let dry and then buff off. The second bottle is "Malm's Carnauba Wax" that is put on as the second step. It guarantees the "most symmetrical water beads". It was made for black cars but can be used on any color.
I'm sure there are many good products but I'm very happy with Malm's. You can find it at Malms.com.
Now that I have bought my 4th black car, (2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE) I will keep the paint as shiny as ever with no fine swirls in the paint. :shades:
Mark
Steve, Host
I have never used Mother's or Maquire's but I have heard of them.
HOST... thanks for the peanut butter tip.. good to know.
My neighbor has a 1986 Mercedes 560SL, red with tan leather and only 67,000 miles. The trunk lid was starting to discolor and the car looked a little dull. My neighbor, knowing I'm a car nut, asked me what she should do. I told her to let me give it a shot with my "special" wax.
I know you are thinking that it was a mighty noble thing for me to wax my neighbors car, Actually, my neighbor is a fantastic cook and I secured a few good meals with my 2 hours of waxing! :P And, she is a doll and I would do anything for her!
Mark
However, the HEMI and the 4.7L get about the same mileage, give or take a gallon, so the extra 100hp was worth it when I got my Commander. Drive both, and you'll feel the added power of the HEMI vs. the 4.7.
For an additional $1500 it was worth it.
Steve, Host
I've had much more powerful SUVs than this - Jeep and Nissan, and they always felt to me as if the power was too much for the handling, roadholding and stopping capabilities of the vehicle. The 4.7 feels good to me.
I tried the hemi, and I can't deny the power was fun. But I think I get better value for money from the rear seat DVD which gives me quiet longer journeys with happier kids !!
If you are asking about the sat. radio (Sirius), you get 1st year free then $12.95 a month thereafter.
I go over bumps Is anyone having this problem
Is the $6800 off MSRP (window sticker) or dealer's invoice? What was the price before taxes and other fees. This is important as they will vary greatly from state to state. Your new baby sounds like the color and equipment combination I will probably choose. Not sure what you mean by VES. Is this the rear video system? In my area (MD) the dealers are loaded with units not well optioned.
Thanks,
Harlan
Jeep Commander versus Land Rover LR3 (Karl on Cars)
Steve, Host
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"With the promise of off-road superiority plus seven-passenger seating at our disposal, we anxiously look forward to pressing the Jeep Commander Limited further into service."
Long-Term Test: 2006 Jeep Commander Limited (Inside Line)
Steve, Host
Can someone with a Commander do this for me? Put down the 2nd and 3rd row seats, close the back hatch and tell me the length of the cargo area from the back surface of the front seats to the inside of the cargo hatch.
Or point me to the dimensions of the cargo area. Not the area (in sq. ft.) which tells me next to nothing.
I need to know if I can comfortably sleep laying down back there. I currently have a Ford Ranger with a 6' bed but I am 6'1". This makes it hard to sleep back there and I do about 6-8 weekend trips in the hills plus a trip of about 2 weeks in Yellowstone each year. I need to be able to sleep in the back of my truck. I fly-fish til the sun goes down and never know where I'll be sleeping so a tent is out of the question. Besides who'd want to leave such a sweet vehicle!
Thanks!