Mystery car pix

bhill2

fintail said:

It appears on a Caribbean, the horizontal side trim goes the entire length of the car, where on the 400, it stops around the rear wheel.

imidazol97 said:

On the Packard, how can we tell the Patrician from the 400 from the Caribbean?
Just asking for a friend.

The easiest way to tell the Patrician from the other two is that it is a four-door.

And on the Nash, whatever is on the front looks like it is hung off the hood ornament, so it is probably actually on the car. It is possible that it is one of those canvas water bags that are cooled by the air current running over dampness caused by water seeping through the canvas. I never did know if they worked.

andys120

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Wide variety of cars here, newest are 2 1959 MY and oldest looks like a '47-48 Ford.
Jaguar XK roadster coming up be hid station wagon.

tmart

59 Ford wagon and a 59 Chevy.

Lostwrench3

bhill2 said:

fintail said:

It appears on a Caribbean, the horizontal side trim goes the entire length of the car, where on the 400, it stops around the rear wheel.

imidazol97 said:

On the Packard, how can we tell the Patrician from the 400 from the Caribbean?
Just asking for a friend.

The easiest way to tell the Patrician from the other two is that it is a four-door.

And on the Nash, whatever is on the front looks like it is hung off the hood ornament, so it is probably actually on the car. It is possible that it is one of those canvas water bags that are cooled by the air current running over dampness caused by water seeping through the canvas. I never did know if they worked.

Bingo!, bhill, that's it.
Yes, they do work. Evaporation being a cooling process, water contained within is made cooler than if the bag of water was traveling within a car having no air conditioning. I don't see why one would use them in Eastern Canada or Maine, they were most effective in the Western USA and had usage in the hot areas of Australia.
I'm guessing the image on the one shown is that of a water faucet.

imidazol97

bhill2 said:

fintail said:

It appears on a Caribbean, the horizontal side trim goes the entire length of the car, where on the 400, it stops around the rear wheel.

imidazol97 said:

On the Packard, how can we tell the Patrician from the 400 from the Caribbean?
Just asking for a friend.

The easiest way to tell the Patrician from the other two is that it is a four-door.

And on the Nash, whatever is on the front looks like it is hung off the hood ornament, so it is probably actually on the car. It is possible that it is one of those canvas water bags that are cooled by the air current running over dampness caused by water seeping through the canvas. I never did know if they worked.

10 4 on the Patrician being the sedan. The 400 and the Caribbean are distinguished by the Caribbean's having an upsweep in the wide sidetrim strip just before the back of the car -- a look like the 1957 Plymouth Fury. So the vehicle on the dock is the 400 line with the wide stripe continuing to the rear and with its being a hardtop.

fintail

Good catch, appears to be a 56 400:

imidazol97 said:

bhill2 said:

fintail said:

It appears on a Caribbean, the horizontal side trim goes the entire length of the car, where on the 400, it stops around the rear wheel.

imidazol97 said:

On the Packard, how can we tell the Patrician from the 400 from the Caribbean?
Just asking for a friend.

The easiest way to tell the Patrician from the other two is that it is a four-door.

And on the Nash, whatever is on the front looks like it is hung off the hood ornament, so it is probably actually on the car. It is possible that it is one of those canvas water bags that are cooled by the air current running over dampness caused by water seeping through the canvas. I never did know if they worked.

10 4 on the Patrician being the sedan. The 400 and the Caribbean are distinguished by the Caribbean's having an upsweep in the wide sidetrim strip just before the back of the car -- a look like the 1957 Plymouth Fury. So the vehicle on the dock is the 400 line with the wide stripe continuing to the rear and with its being a hardtop.

fintail

Not sure if this has been here before:

andys120

I think we've seen this one before but it's a nice pic. I think the light colored car in the window might be a Borgward Isabella. My college roomie had an MG-A FHC like the one on right.

stickguy

Ponton Benz in showroom. And is that red wagon a Crosley?

sda

Where was that dealer located? Great pic.

Lostwrench3

Connecticut.

fintail

I believe the wagon is a Triumph TR10 "Estate Wagon".

Maybe hasn't been here before. Not actually in Switzerland:

stickguy

Lots of Renaults.

andys120

stickguy said:

Lots of Renaults.

...and Pugs...

White car far left=Peugeot 203 (1955-66), another 203 is the black sedan under the word "Max".

magnette

@fintail

I always smile when I see reference to the Triumph TR10

Here, the TR range is a staple of car shows, with the TR2 - TR8 models, depicted as traditional Brit sports cars.
The parallel existence of a range of cars based on the little Standard Eight / Ten models - which were worthy but unexciting rivals to the A30/35 or the Morris Minor - don't really fit the same profile.

laurasdada

fintail said:

Not sure if this has been here before:

Great picture! I grew up in the next town over, but I guess this dealership was before my car-time.

fintail

I think the early Triumph sports cars sold in the US had a lot of brand equity, and they were trying to capitalize on it by slapping the name on an unassuming economy car. As the model was sold here for a short time with no similar replacement (I think we did get the Herald for a brief second, but it existed as a convertible anyway), the plan probably didn't work.

magnette said:

@fintail

I always smile when I see reference to the Triumph TR10

Here, the TR range is a staple of car shows, with the TR2 - TR8 models, depicted as traditional Brit sports cars.
The parallel existence of a range of cars based on the little Standard Eight / Ten models - which were worthy but unexciting rivals to the A30/35 or the Morris Minor - don't really fit the same profile.

fintail

From a fb group, Halifax NS, 1985 - the golden age of the automobile:

ab348

What a find! That is literally just down the street from me. The start of the dealership chain that is where I have gotten my last few cars. They now sell almost every brand: M-B, BMW/Mini, Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Kia, Nissan/Infinti, GM, VW and Subaru.

There are a couple of interesting Cutlasses there in the pic: a 2-tone mid-'80s version, and what looks like a '70 or '71. Seeing the variety of K-car variants on the lot reminded me of a story my oldest brother tells about test-driving a Dodge 600 (who knows, maybe the one in the pic) there around that time when he previous car (a Pontiac 6000) had been written off in an accident. He was unimpressed and it was a no-sale. He ended up buying a new Topaz.

That lot is set into the side of a hill and I was always somewhat taken with the mid-century house you can see lurking there behind the sign. It was for sale much of the last year and recently sold. It was a 2-flat, unfortunately quite run down now, but you could still see some of the original details in the interior pics. That car lot property and I suspect the home site is designated for a townhouse redevelopment.

fintail

I was hoping that would be a new one for you, and suspected you were familiar with the location. Quite a diverse lineup, then and now. No doubt that plot of land and the modern style house could have been bought for a relative pittance then.

Safest bet in the pic might be the white Prelude, assuming it didn't rust, although those larger GM cars could be decent too. I wonder if the black Rabbit is a GTI. Looks like maybe a Cavalier fastback beside the Prelude, not a bad design, and an A-body wagon in front of the trucks in the back, another design that aged well, pretty glassy. 3 to the left of the two tone Cutlass, maybe a Granada wagon? Pretty rare.

I think the Dodge 600 to have was the ES "sport" model, the rest, maybe pretty boring. Back in the day my uncle had the now probably nearly extinct Chrysler E-class, kind of a light yellow with I think a tan interior, what I recall most about it was the lucite style pentastar hood ornament.

ab348 said:

What a find! That is literally just down the street from me. The start of the dealership chain that is where I have gotten my last few cars. They now sell almost every brand: M-B, BMW/Mini, Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Kia, Nissan/Infinti, GM, VW and Subaru.

There are a couple of interesting Cutlasses there in the pic: a 2-tone mid-'80s version, and what looks like a '70 or '71. Seeing the variety of K-car variants on the lot reminded me of a story my oldest brother tells about test-driving a Dodge 600 (who knows, maybe the one in the pic) there around that time when he previous car (a Pontiac 6000) had been written off in an accident. He was unimpressed and it was a no-sale. He ended up buying a new Topaz.

That lot is set into the side of a hill and I was always somewhat taken with the mid-century house you can see lurking there behind the sign. It was for sale much of the last year and recently sold. It was a 2-flat, unfortunately quite run down now, but you could still see some of the original details in the interior pics. That car lot property and I suspect the home site is designated for a townhouse redevelopment.

explorerx4

A black GTI behind the first K-car sedan. The gold and white Olds Cutlass might be a Hurst edition.

andys120

The black hatch next to the Prelude looks more like an OmniRizon than a VW.

tjc78

The sky blue car between the LeSabre and 4 eye Stang is a Dodge 600.

I can’t make out the white coupe next to the GTI. Is it a Nissan Pulsar?

explorerx4

I think I see a red stipe on the black 2 door hatch which makes me think it's a GTI.

andys120

Vegas, baby![blows up]1

fintail

tjc78 said:

The sky blue car between the LeSabre and 4 eye Stang is a Dodge 600.

I can’t make out the white coupe next to the GTI. Is it a Nissan Pulsar?

2nd gen Prelude.

fintail

At far right looks like a prewar car, perhaps a just-prewar GM product, and in front of that appears to be a Lincoln Cosmopolitan.

andys120 said:

Vegas, baby![blows up]1

bhill2

Gotta grab the bathtub Nash facing the camera at the far left.

magnette

in Vegas is the black car in the distance on the right, next to the kerb, a Studebaker?

andys120

Right of the Nash, going away is a '53-54 MoPar of some sort and a 1953-ish Caddyak.

fintail

Related to a discussion in another thread - Beverly Hills, 1985 (should zoom ok):

tmart

Two Sevilles and a Country Squire.

fintail

One Seville is especially uncommon.

And what I think is being spotted as a Squire is quite different from one!

tmart said:

Two Sevilles and a Country Squire.

stickguy

early 4 door Accord with the weird bumper bar.

and top right, between the ubiquitous red SL mercedes and a period brown Rolls Royce, a nice silver blue Volvo P1800ES

tmart

Hmm, maybe an Edsel ?

andys120

The first gen Seville was just a prettied up/luxed up Chevy Nova but the styling dept did right by it w a clean, attractive design.



The silly-bustle back Gen II introduced in 1980 seemed to have forgotten that the Seville was supposed to attract import buyers.

fintail

I assume the thing that does kind of resemble the front of a Squire from the right angle is the gold and brown looking Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit or Spur (likely the former) at background far right.

The bustleback is a Gucci trimmed car, similar to what was discussed on another thread. Someone made a few anyway.

ab348

fintail said:

The bustleback is a Gucci trimmed car, similar to what was discussed on another thread. Someone made a few anyway.

Although I am not as fluent in Cadillac as I am for some other makes, I had never seen a Gucci Seville until that picture in the other thread appeared. I looked it up online and the few references I found implied that it was a Cadillac offering, which I found difficult to believe. None of the Caddy brochures seem to mention or show it, and it seems way over the top. I have to think it was an aftermarket conversion.

sda

I will try to find the 78/79 Gucci Seville brochure that I have. It was an expensive looking brochure with thick paper stock and generous pictures. I looked at a new Gucci Seville at the dealer but don't recall how much more it cost over a typical Seville. I thought it gaudy and ostentatious then and my opinion hasn't changed over time.

fintail

I suspect you are right. IIRC, the image I posted was described as being in front of the Gucci shop in Beverly Hills, and I notice the car has FL plates. I wonder of Gucci itself commissioned these most special of special editions, and maybe a handful of dealers in places like Miami and Beverly Hills sold a few. I am pretty sure some of the other gingerbread found on period Caddys - continental kits, wire wheels, faux Rolls-Royce grilles, etc was all dealer-installed.

ab348 said:

fintail said:

The bustleback is a Gucci trimmed car, similar to what was discussed on another thread. Someone made a few anyway.

Although I am not as fluent in Cadillac as I am for some other makes, I had never seen a Gucci Seville until that picture in the other thread appeared. I looked it up online and the few references I found implied that it was a Cadillac offering, which I found difficult to believe. None of the Caddy brochures seem to mention or show it, and it seems way over the top. I have to think it was an aftermarket conversion.

ab348

fintail said:

I suspect you are right. IIRC, the image I posted was described as being in front of the Gucci shop in Beverly Hills, and I notice the car has FL plates. I wonder of Gucci itself commissioned these most special of special editions, and maybe a handful of dealers in places like Miami and Beverly Hills sold a few. I am pretty sure some of the other gingerbread found on period Caddys - continental kits, wire wheels, faux Rolls-Royce grilles, etc was all dealer-installed.

I was surprised to see in the ‘84 Caddy brochure that you could get the fake convertible top “cabriolet roof” from the factory on a Seville.

andys120

I was surprised to see in the ‘84 Caddy brochure that you could get the fake convertible top “cabriolet roof” from the factory on a Seville.

I';m not surprised, in fact I'd bet half of them were so equipped. They were all the rage with the retiree set.

fintail

I've seen so many with the "full Florida" package that I am not surprised it was official. Terrible padded cabrio roofs and trunk-mounted continental kits, both.

I posted it before - this is the spec - no vinyl top, rare alloy type wheels instead of wire caps or wire wheels, no extraneous bling (and it's an 80):

ab348 said:

fintail said:

I suspect you are right. IIRC, the image I posted was described as being in front of the Gucci shop in Beverly Hills, and I notice the car has FL plates. I wonder of Gucci itself commissioned these most special of special editions, and maybe a handful of dealers in places like Miami and Beverly Hills sold a few. I am pretty sure some of the other gingerbread found on period Caddys - continental kits, wire wheels, faux Rolls-Royce grilles, etc was all dealer-installed.

I was surprised to see in the ‘84 Caddy brochure that you could get the fake convertible top “cabriolet roof” from the factory on a Seville.

sda

I like that Seville and the two tone black and silver, moonroof, alloys. It still needs whitewalls. I liked the look of the narrower band Michelin XHs that replaced the larger width whitewalls on dad’s 79 Eldorado.

tmart

Definitely needs whitewalls.

andys120

stickguy

70s something Jensen interceptor convertible?

sda

I really liked those Jensens. 440 Chrysler V8 and Torqueflite transmission, nice.

magnette

Due to recent sad events, likely to be getting more use in the near future

andys120

stickguy said:

70s something Jensen interceptor convertible?

Yep, 1974 Jensen Interceptor III .