Mystery car pix

andys120

guss

1985 Toyota Celica ? I don't think the muffler(big suprise) is stock either.

michaellno

Celica Supra ... the nose is too long for the regular 4-cyl Celica.

My folks had an '84 Celica.

wgrafer

I believe a close inspection will reveal the Edsel to be a 1959 instead of a 1958 (see grille). And behind it in the driveway looks to be a Maroon & White '55 or '56 Buick!

lostwrench1

Yes, the Edsel has to be a 1959 because of the front parking lights being in the bumper.

andys120

Celica Supra

Yep, it's an '85.

andys120

qbrozen

Huh.
Engine sure looks like a Jag V12 from the E-type, but that sure ain't an E-type engine bay.

andys120

I guess you forgot that the same engine went into this car>

qbrozen

Ummm.. yeah, pretty much.

The fact that the fenders were angling in towards the nose just put me automatically in sportscar mode and I wasn't thinking it through. My first thought was that the shape of the engine bay was like an XK1xx. But that predates the V12.

andys120

bhill2

The doors are saying "early 50s Packard" to me, but I'm having a little trouble getting confirmation from the little bit of front end that is visible.

wgrafer

1951 Packard 400 Patrician. What a beauty!!!

andys120

1951 Packard 400 Patrician. What a beauty!!!

That's exactly right, but how on earth could you tell the model and year so precisely?



The car has only 34600 miles!

stever

The car has only 34600 miles!

Kept breaking down all the time eh? :P

This is a bit of a why bother, but maybe the country where it was sold will keep you guessing. Ah, probably not with this crowd.



(Spoiler at Straightline)

andys120

For reasons I don't know Ford F-100 pickups were sold in Canada as Mercuries, that's one of 'em, hard to guess the year but I'd say '57 or so.

stever

Looks like the links just say "mid-50's" so '57 is good enough for me.

This one from the Green Car Advisor looks like it has gas.

andre1969

For reasons I don't know Ford F-100 pickups were sold in Canada as Mercuries

The Canadian market was sort of strange like that. I wonder if Mercury was viewed as more of an equal to Ford, rather than a step up? I think that's how it was with Pontiac. At least, the Canadian Pontiacs used Chevy drivetrains, frames, and wheelbases, with Pontiac sheetmetal and interiors. Some cars, like the midsize and compact, were just badge-engineered Chevies, with very little to differentiate them. I think Canada did get real Buicks and Oldsmobiles though, and in later years, they started getting real Bonnevilles and Catalinas, in addition to their home-market Laurentians, Parisiennes, etc.

Did they even sell Plymouths in Canada? I've seen Plymouth bodies with some Dodge trim on them marketed as Crusaders and the like, and I think the Plymouth-based DeSoto Diplomat was offered up there. I've also seen a Canadian Valiant, which was actually a Dodge Dart with a Valiant grille, and marketed as a CHRYSLER Valiant.

At some point, I guess the Dodge name went away up there, because I've seen Canadian Intrepids marketed as Chryslers.

boomchek

We had Plymouths here, and Dodges as well.
Pretty much everything you guys have/had as far as I remember (back to the 80s).

bumpy

Back in those days, Canadian towns would have either a Mercury or a Ford dealer, or a Chevy or a Pontiac dealer but not both, so the model lines were duplicated across the marques.

andys120

fintail

Gotta be British from the 50s or 60s...the wide wing window reminds me of a Rolls SC3 cabrio or a Bentley equivalent...but I seem to remember their dashboards being different.

andys120

Close enough, it's a 1961 R-R Silver Cloud II

andys120

fintail

Hillman Minx cabrio ca. 1952

bumpy

boomchek

Tough one, I'm usually good with 80s and up interiors.

This reminds me of a Saab, but doesn't have the console mounted ignition.

The wood trim is stick on aftermarket.

I think it's a convertible by the amount of light in the cabin.

Early 90's car with climate control. So it was mid to upscale class.

hmmmmm i don't know

boomchek

I'm gonna guess and say it's a Toyota of some sorts.

andys120

Hillman Minx cabrio ca. 1952

Yup!

wgrafer

And speaking of old TV detectives' rides, didn't Gene Barry have one of these on Burke's Law in the early 60's???

andys120

Your memory is better than mine, yeah Gene Barry's character had a Cloud II.

hudsonthedog

I agree that it's very Saab-like. The Saab 9000 didn't have it's ignition on the console, but they also didn't have the window switches on the door. And to make it even more confusing, this one is a stick (leaving out many vehicles).

steelydanfan

This interior is modified, particularly the steering wheel, but I think the woodgrain is original to the car. I can see the Saab influences, but I see Ford product here also, as in the digital clock.........and the window swithces and overall abundunce of plastic. Some Fords came with stick shift...........

I say this is the interior of a Ford Thunderbird Coupe, circa 1985ish, another dark horse possibility is a Merkur Scorpio, which was imported by Mercury from Germany from 1988issh through 1991 ish . I must say the console mounted ignition supports the Merkur Scorpio idea, I would assume the Ford Thunderbird would have the ignition on the steering wheel, but that has been modified.........

The light in the cabin could also be from an open sunroof, which were options on both cars mentioned above.........

Gentlemen, you may fire at will........

boomchek

I disagree on the Thunderibird because if you look a the power window swtiches, there's 4 of them meaning the car was either a 4 door, 4 door SUV, or a 2 door convertible with roll down rear glass. I don't believe the T-birds had rear opening windows. And same goes for the Merkur, even though it does look a bit European.

Why do I think it may be from a Toyota or Nissan, likely a high end version early 90s, it's just the manual tranny throws that idea away as most upscale models had automatic trannies. :confuse: :confuse:

kyfdx

...and the key in the dash.. make me think it's Euro...

But, as noted above.. the clock looks Japanese or domestic..

That Merkur Scorpio might not be a bad guess..

Sure seems like I should recognize it..

Or... Cressida or early Maxima..

steelydanfan

kyfdx, I meant to say dash mounted ignition, not console for my Merkur Scorpio guess, which is a guess . I agree with you on the early Cressida idea, I do not think this is a Nissan Maxima of any year.

boomcheck, if this were a Thunderbird Turbo Convertible with a manual, (they were made), you would still have four electric window switches, right ?

Also, there were some early near-luxo Japanese sedans with manual trannies mated to 6 cylinders , sorta like a Japanese BMW competitor.........I believe some (just a few, probably) 2nd generation Toyota Cressidas (1987ish) carried the 2.8 inline 6 with a manual 5 speed , RWD..........

As a matter of fact, with the woodgrain , dash mounted ignition ( I had a 1995 Lexus with dash ignition) , a 1987ish 5 spd manual Toyota Cressida is a plausible guess .

Toyota was attempting to appeal to the near-luxury sedan buyer with the woodgrain, gadgets galore, but a 5 spd manual for the BMW wannabe buyer........

kyfdx

Thunderbird Turbo didn't come in a convertible, unless it was a chop job...(I don't think)..

I was thinking of the early Maxima, aka the Datsun 810... the RWD model..

boomchek

This HAS to be from the 90s, I'd say between 92-98. The dash, and switches are too rounded to be from the 80s, as most dashboards back then were of the square variety.

It just screams as being a Toyota, but the gauges look too simple for an import.

Also I have a feeling it's a SUV due to large size of it all and the very tall centre stack.

And I still say the wood trim is aftermarket. Manufacturers typically have one strip running across the dash, and it's very rare to see the whole dash covered in it. I stick by that!
The only problem is what the heck is this thing.........

Man this is a tough one....... :confuse:

wgrafer

Just walked past an old Infiniti J30 and noticed some real similarities -- could this be an Infiniti G20 from the mid 90's???

tom1sharon2

...hard to guess the year but I'd say `57 or so.

This style is representative of the 1953 thru 1956 trucks. The Mercury pictured has the wraparound windshield and forward angled A-pillar that didn't appear until 1956, IIRC.

IMHO, this generation of (Ford) pickups was probably one of the first trucks to have the same kind of mass appeal to customizers and hot rodders that was typically associated with cars.

In 1957 they were redesigned into the more modern, squarish looking truck pictured here.
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boomchek

Not a G20. Vents are different on that one.

bumpy

I suppose I've tormented everyone long enough. :P

Our mystery interior is from the final ('89-92) Toyota Cressida. "But wait," you say, "those Cressidas were all automatic!" Yes they were, but judicious use of parts from the Mark III Supra can remedy that shortcoming.

Edit: JDM Mark II without the plood.

boomchek

Good one. I knew the power window buttons looked like Toyota's!

A bit tricky though.

andys120

How many can you ID>

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fintail

Car on far left looks like a Ferrari 166. Row to the right has a Ferrari 250 variant followed by a couple of 275 GTB/4s. a MB W113, and maybe a Daytona behind it. Next row over has a Porsche 356 (convertible D?) a 356 coupe, something Italian behind it, and a big late 20s Bentley behind that. From there over it is jumbled, I spot E-types in open and closed form, something that somewhat resembles an Aston Martin DB2, a 911, a couple of Mustangs, an Alfa, and what might even be an early Ford Escort in racing spec.

andys120

You've covered the bases very nicely, Fin, even got the little slice of Ferrari 166 in the left hand corner. The Ferrari heading up the row next to it is most likely a 250 Berlinetta TDF (1956-59) one of the early variants of the 3-liter V12 Ferraris. (The TDF
was named after the Tour de France, an automobile race, not the bicycle rate).

I'm pretty sure that blue Porsche is indeed a 356 Convertible D but I can't spot any E-Type roadster, just the top of a green coupe.

fintail

D'oh...now that I am on a better monitor, what I thought was an open Jag isn't...the hardtop looked like enough for me.

I think the "Italian" mystery car is something Zagato now that I can see it better.

If only there was a way to put car detail knowledge to profitable use.

andys120

I think the "Italian" mystery car is something Zagato now that I can see it better.

Lancia Fulvia Zagato, perhaps?>

andys120

tmart

57 Ford Fairlane 500. Back in the day I had a white over red Sunliner with the T-Bird engine.