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  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Andy, I still believe she's an Ariane
    Simca Ariane
    and not a Vedette
    Simca Vedette

    Though some pictures can mislead
    Vedette images
    Ariane images

    Anyhow, the Ariane was based in the Vedette chassis and offered with either an Aronde 4cyl engine or an Aquillon 8 cyl engine). But given the frequent model & name confusion of the epoque, every name might be possible applied to any model, at least occasionally.

    And, here it is Simca Aronde small sister
    Aronde images

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Plenty of room for confusion between the Ariane and the Vedette,they were both clearly influenced by American Ford styling.

    I read once that Simca was the best selling marque in France during the 1950s, I think the Aronde was the most popular model.

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  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    both clearly influenced by American Ford styling.

    Yes indeed.

    the Aronde was the most popular model

    Yes again.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • standfanstandfan Member Posts: 2
    looks ok to me
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1956 Ford Fairlane
    1956 Ford Customline Victoria
    1956 Chevy 210
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited July 2010
    The Chevy has the chrome stripe indicating a BelAir or a 210, no way to tell which it is and I can't see enough of the middle Ford to tell what trim line it is.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    I based my answer on the Ford in the middle on the trunk emblem having horizontal arms rather than the shallow V arms of the Ford on the left.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    1956 Ford Fairlane
    1956 Ford Customline Victoria
    1956 Chevy 210


    I based my answer on the Ford in the middle on the trunk emblem having horizontal arms rather than the shallow V arms of the Ford on the left.

    I want to say that the V indicated a V-8, but I'm not sure. Also, the middle Ford has a B-pillar. I think that Ford used 'Victoria' to indicate a hardtop, and called the pillared sedans 'Sedan'.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited July 2010
    I think that Ford used 'Victoria' to indicate a hardtop, and called the pillared sedans 'Sedan'.

    Back then IIRC pillared sedans were Tudors or Fordors but some Victorias were h/ts, some not (notably Crown Vics which used a swept back B pillar as the "Crown.")

    Ford began using the term "Victoria" back in the 1920s for it's two-doors but I think it gradually lost meaning as to any specific type of body. Hence today's Four-door only CVs. ;)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Pontiac Phoenix
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,481
    I used to know a guy who once had a Phoenix...4 cyl...it was so weak that there were hills in Seattle it literally couldn't climb, and he'd have to back down. Dark days.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yup, that's brochure art for the very un-exciting Pontiac Phoenix Coupe and Hatchbacks of the 1980s (aka X-Cars).

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,481
    I'm getting a Lancia vibe from the front clip. Houses in the background are really German-looking.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited July 2010
    You have sharp eyes Fintail, the photograph is of a Lancia belonging to a resident of Wurzburg Bavaria, he says the car is one of 300 or so registered in Germany.

    Wanna go for the Gold and identify which Lancia this is?>

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,481
    I have no idea...never seen it before. Very bland and inoffensive, early-mid 90s, reminds me of the Rover 800 series coupe.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Looks like a Lancia Tempo or Topaz :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's a Lancia Kappa Coupe (ca.'94-'00). The Kappa replaced the Thema series at the top of the Lancia line and came in sedan, coupe and wagon form.

    There was no equivalent to the Thema 8.32 which had a Ferrari V8!.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    edited July 2010
    Well, the big black fastback is definitely a Buick of the 1942-48 vintage. The two-toned car behind it is a 1956 Chevrolet Bel Air sport coupe and I can just barely make out the tail lamp of a 1955 or 1956 Plymouth.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Yep, the Sedanette is a 46 Buick, probably a Roadmaster, which preceded the Bel Air h/t by a decade.

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  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    The Plymouth on the left is definitely a '56 - probably a Belvedere with a V8
    as indicated by the emblem on the trunk.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Some sort of Moretti?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,102
    Moretti?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Nope, it's not a Moretti, it's not even Italian.

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  • 1whldr1whldr Member Posts: 6
    1959 or 1960 Simca Aronde Ocean
    And though this car is French, there is an Italian lineage to Simca. Until the 1951 release of this French designed Aronde, Simca made Fiat designed cars.

    So there may be some Italian connection influence on the design team ;)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    So there may be some Italian connection influence on the design team

    No doubt, there's a strong resemblance to the contemporary Fiat 1200TV>

    '59 Fiat Spider1200 TV >image

    '59 Simca Aronde Oceane>image

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Not to mention the obvious similarity to the Sunbeam Alpine.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I'm not sure about the Alpine but it's possible the 1200TV and the Oceane or products of the same designer. I haven't been able to come up with who designed either, if I had to guess I'd say there's some Michelotti in both.

    A note on the Alpine. Early versions had big tail fins that gave it an even more "American" look>

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Wartburg 353 (sold as Wartburg Knight in the UK)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Wartburg 353

    Yep.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,687
    1957 Ford Fairlane 500 two door sedan faux hardtop, almost indistinguishable with the chrome over the door post. Strong blue and white with the only flaw being the license plate on the grill instead of a holder on the front bumper.

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  • yelnatsyelnats Member Posts: 1
    I would just call it a land yacht
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    '67 Chevy Biscayne x2.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Can I get a point for the movie?
    Thunder Road
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,602
    Is that a picture of actual cop cars? The reason that I ask is that the badge on the background car indicates a small block V-8, and I would expect them to have the big block (probably a 396).

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    SPAM alert. Boy, 30 posts in one day...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited July 2010
    Can I get a point for the movie?
    Thunder Road


    You've got it Lostwrench1, TR was one of the great car movies of all time IMO.

    Imidazol97 was correct it's a '57 Ford Fairlane 500,

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,126
    316ti, 2000-ish? Saw its predecessor (318ti, 90-ish) a few days ago.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    It's known as the 3 Series (E46) Compact and sold as a 316 or 318Ti but NSH.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    300SL

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,481
    300SL roadster to be specific ;)
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