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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    My dad sitting in one when he was a teen in Poland.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Cool shot!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Viva Las Vegas>


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited March 2015
    I think the 69 (?) Mustang next to a similar year Chevy wagon at right might be the newest cars there. I also see a sliver of a 66-67 or so Toronado at far far left.
    andys120 said:

    Viva Las Vegas>

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    63 Imperial behind the 65 or 66 Dodge Coronet?

    Andys -I do think Vegas was more fun in the old days!
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    I'll put two chips on a 64 Olds 88 being behind the VW.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,354
    I think the brown car behind the VW is a mid 60s Bonneville.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    berri said:

    63 Imperial behind the 65 or 66 Dodge Coronet?

    Andys -I do think Vegas was more fun in the old days!

    It was also a lot cheaper; hotel rooms went for $40/night as recently as the Nineties and meals and drinks were often free! You could gamble away all the money you were saving but that was the fun of the old Vegas .

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    The VW Beetle is 68-73, it has the higher bumper but not the bigger one that came in '74 (IIRC). Isn't that the side of a Gen 1 Mustang to the left of the VW?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,354
    Good catch andy. it does look like one.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,354
    boxy.


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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    stickguy said:

    boxy.


    G'day

    Eastern bloc, probably Rumania. I think pre-Renault Dacia

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,354
    got the country right. partially on the make, because some were sold under the Dacia name but that is not who made it or what it is called.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    stickguy said:

    got the country right. partially on the make, because some were sold under the Dacia name but that is not who made it or what it is called.

    G'day

    They were sold as the Dacia Duster in UK when we lived there in the 1990's, I think.

    No idea of any other Romanian car makers.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,354
    Graham got most of it. It is a Romanian built ARO 10.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1962 Dodge Polara 500.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2015
    You nailed it Lostwrench.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    First thing that comes to mind when I see these unique 62 Dodges:

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1962 Dodge Dart 440.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Not many of these made....




  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This one is too rare - in fact unique -so shouldn't qualify here at all...


  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think that on that 62 Dodge, if you cleaned up the front end and had left it on the original full sized chassis which would have stretched out the greenhouse, it could have been a nice looking car.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    berri said:

    I think that on that 62 Dodge, if you cleaned up the front end and had left it on the original full sized chassis which would have stretched out the greenhouse, it could have been a nice looking car.

    Tjhey did those things in 1963 and the result was very nice indeed>



    The '63 Dodge might be the best looking Police Pursuit rig ever seen in the States.>





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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    magnette said:

    This one is too rare - in fact unique -so shouldn't qualify here at all...


    I don't have any idea except that it's rear-engined so perhaps VW or Fiat based.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    andys120 said:

    magnette said:

    This one is too rare - in fact unique -so shouldn't qualify here at all...


    I don't have any idea except that it's rear-engined so perhaps VW or Fiat based.

    It is British but not a production car - literally unique.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    If it's British then it's probably Austin/Morris Mini-based. The probably put the drivetrain behind the driver (hopefully w the transaxle aft.) ala Fiat X 1/9. (The tailights and finlets could be right off a Sprite MII/Midget.)

    IMO the current owners of Mimi ought to do this and make a real sports car based on Mini components.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    andys120 said:

    If it's British then it's probably Austin/Morris Mini-based. The probably put the drivetrain behind the driver (hopefully w the transaxle aft.) ala Fiat X 1/9. (The tailights and finlets could be right off a Sprite MII/Midget.)

    IMO the current owners of Mimi ought to do this and make a real sports car based on Mini components.


    Its not Mini based - and never went into production.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I know what it is and would be absolutely terrified of it. Nothing should be spinning at 52,000rpm, especially in the mid 1950's. It is in the British Leyland collection but the hint is the rear hubcaps. The designer also did a very good SUV or two.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229

    G'day

    I know what it is and would be absolutely terrified of it. Nothing should be spinning at 52,000rpm, especially in the mid 1950's. It is in the British Leyland collection but the hint is the rear hubcaps. The designer also did a very good SUV or two.

    Cheers

    Graham

    You've nailed it but I'll leave it for a bit to see if anyone else gets it - any ideas on the blue roadster I also posted a moment before this car?

  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    magnette said:

    Not many of these made....




    G'day

    You are really covering the very rare or unique here. The hint is in the near neighbours on the display and pondering the byzantine connections of British motoring history (probably worse than those charts which show the interconnectedness between Fairport Convention and Deep Purple)!

    The underpinnings are pure Triumph, but the body much prettier.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107

    G'day

    I know what it is and would be absolutely terrified of it. Nothing should be spinning at 52,000rpm, especially in the mid 1950's. It is in the British Leyland collection but the hint is the rear hubcaps. The designer also did a very good SUV or two.

    Cheers

    Graham

    Looks like a Wankel rotor on the hub caps, but 52,000 rpm?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229

    magnette said:

    Not many of these made....




    G'day

    You are really covering the very rare or unique here. The hint is in the near neighbours on the display and pondering the byzantine connections of British motoring history (probably worse than those charts which show the interconnectedness between Fairport Convention and Deep Purple)!

    The underpinnings are pure Triumph, but the body much prettier.

    Cheers

    Graham
    They made 100 of the roadster and it was indeed Triumph underpinnings.

    Both pictures taken last Saturday at the British Motor Heritage museum which is primarily the repository for old British Leyland cars, but with a few others thrown in for good measure.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The '63 Dodge might be the best looking Police Pursuit rig ever seen in the States

    You can see the Elwood Engel Ford influence on it from his quick facelift to the 62's from the more formal C pillar to the more slab sides. He kept that, shall we say much too prominent, front end though. I liked his 64 Dodge Polara update best, particularly the 2dr HT. Really liked that rooftop, C pillar, and greenhouse. I thought when he put the Polara and Fury back on a full sized chassis in 65 that he did a good job differentiating them as buyer's seemed to have a definite preference one way or the other. I also felt he did an excellent job turning that 62 chassis into Intermediates. I liked the Dodge Coronet much better than the Plymouth Belvidere. I thought it looked good as both a 4dr sedan or a 2dr. HT.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited March 2015
    Una Trappola Mortale (very rare Italian car) :)

    (just kidding)

    I just drove one of these and I'm still recovering.


  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786

    Una Trappola Mortale (very rare Italian car) :)

    (just kidding)

    I just drove one of these and I'm still recovering.


    G'day

    No idea, but from the location of the fuel filler, I guess VW Beetle derived.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No it is actually a car that one could build as a "kit" but was also produced "turn-key" by the factory, and it has its own frame. Power is American, mid-engined, using modified Corvair transaxle.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229

    magnette said:

    Not many of these made....




    G'day

    You are really covering the very rare or unique here. The hint is in the near neighbours on the display and pondering the byzantine connections of British motoring history (probably worse than those charts which show the interconnectedness between Fairport Convention and Deep Purple)!

    The underpinnings are pure Triumph, but the body much prettier.

    Cheers

    Graham
    As this one has slid out of the frame now I will tell the others that it is a Swallow Doretti - based on Triumph chassis and oily bits but too close a competitor to the TR2 so that finished it after 100 or so were built - all but one were roadsters like this but there was one coupe I gather.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    magnette said:

    G'day

    I know what it is and would be absolutely terrified of it. Nothing should be spinning at 52,000rpm, especially in the mid 1950's. It is in the British Leyland collection but the hint is the rear hubcaps. The designer also did a very good SUV or two.

    Cheers

    Graham

    You've nailed it but I'll leave it for a bit to see if anyone else gets it - any ideas on the blue roadster I also posted a moment before this car?

    Graham

    As with the Swallow Doretti above you got this unique one too... It really shouldn't be eligible as it was an experimental car - its the Rover T3.

    T3 was built in 1956, had four wheel drive, glass fibre body over a sheet steel frame DeDion rear suspension inboard disc brakes - most of this was new then .. But the real sting in the tail was the gas turbine engine - only 110 bhp, but with the compression turbine spinning at 52000rpm and what I gather jet people call light up at 15000rpm it was not the sort of car for granny to go to the shops..

    Rover had of course built the first gas turbine car, the Rover A ( known universally as JET 1 as that was its numberplate) a few years earlier.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited March 2015
    Yeah, sure it is---but what year and how did you know that?


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I spy RHD, likely Oz, maybe South Africa
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Australian Falcon? In its nest? Wonder who put it up there...
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,597

    Yeah, sure it is---but what year and how did you know that?


    If it is like the US version it is a '60. The tail lights changed in '62 and the '61 had 'FALCON' across the back under the trunk lid.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    edited March 2015
    looks like a 1960 to me.

    I never realized before how the rear doors make the car more goofy looking when you stare at them long enough.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That type of tree grows fast, so if it was abandoned in 1960, a Eucalyptus (did I spell that right?) tree can get pretty large in 55 years.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited March 2015

    That type of tree grows fast, so if it was abandoned in 1960, a Eucalyptus (did I spell that right?) tree can get pretty large in 55 years.

    We planted a Eucalyptus tree in our back garden eleven years ago when we moved into this house - and despite hacking yards off it every year it got away from us to the point where it was higher than our second floor windows (and we measure ground /first / second so that is a bit high...) We had to have it felled a couple of months back as it was just too big for what is basically a town garden.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    But a growing tree can't lift up a car. That car got put up there.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Somewhere deep in the recesses of my memory, I know where the Ford Falcon up a tree is located. I think near a motor wreckers in rural New South Wales but could be Victoria. The Ford Falcon was produced here from about 1960 but is about to cease production as Ford, Holden and Toyota have concluded that they cannot economically produce cars in Australia. Initially they used a pretty much straight lift of the USA models, although the station wagon was about a foot shorter to avoid problems with Australian roads.

    I cannot tell whether it is a first generation XK or an XL from 1962 onward. The XK had major issues with failures of the front end with ball joints collapsing and other problems. Unfortunately, while they handled well with light steering, they were not strong enough for Australian roads. The XL was considerably strengthened to cope with Australian roads.

    The tree is a red gum (Eucalyptus camaldulensis) which is relatively rapid growing and very long lived (700 + years). They grow to about 45m with a spreading crown and robust trunk. They are usually found near water and ideally require occasional flooding events. The timber is dense and typically red, although colours vary. Red gums have a disconcerting habit of dropping limbs (up to about half the trunk diameter) without warning; hence descriptions as "widow makers". We are taught early not to camp under red-gums and the sound of a limb breaking on a still night in the forest is pretty creepy. They are rarely planted in urban areas because of this habit,

    There are something like 800 Eucalypt species, many of them unsuitable for urban gardens. Some get rather large including the Mountain Ash common where I grew up. These grow (slowly - adding only about 1m per year under ideal conditions) to about 90m and are the world's largest flowering plants.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229


    At the risk of turning this forum into Gardeners Question TIme we thought we had a slow growing one, as it was a small tree when we bought it - I brought it home standing in the back of our Fiat Seicento at the time. It turns out it wasn't slow at all..... It had very shredded reddish bark and was an attractive tree.

    Funnily enough I am reading a book about Bees at the moment - nature as well as cars, that's me - and last night I read that about the Mountain Ash Eucalyptus being the tallest flowering plant in the world - all the taller trees like Sequoias are if course coniferous.

    Main point of the chapter was concerning non-native bumblebees which someone has smuggled into Tasmania to pollinate commercially grown tomato crops - from UK bees introduced in colonial times into NZ....

    Anyway, back to cars..
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Try these two





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