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Lexus ES 350
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i would like this and am holding up my order waiting
for it to become available. my salesman states
there is no way for them to find out the
exact date it will become available. i am
considering ordering now without it and having it put
on much later by the dealer - if possible.
BTW, my wife said if this was to be her car (it isn't) she would buy the Moon Shell Mica! It is way too much like our old 87 Supra Turbo in "Amethyst" which was silver with an amethyst tinted clear coat. At least I now have a list of two possibles!
I've read several posts where that has been an issue.
I went on Lexus "letstalk" website and they only show 4 carriers (Cingular, Verizon, T-Mobile, Nextel). What does that mean? Thanks.
by the way, the car is great. The first a couple of weeks of driving, I didn't drive a lot of freeways and I was only averaging right around 20. Now my current tank's MPG is at 26.8. That's freeway plus local(about 50-50). Very impressive!
Honda and Lexus in the same breath? I DON'T THINK SO!!!
I do not want that panorama glass roof that comes with the UL package. Just seems like overkill to me.
Is the Levinson sytem worth that? Thanks for your thoughts.
Any thoughts/experiences are appreciated.
Alan
Can you share some more details? What do you like about it? What do your passengers like about it? It just seems a little "over the top" from the photo's. I don't know how else to explain my concern.
Max
Alan
Do you feel like you get more wind noise with that roof system? The thought of having an all glass roof is bugging me for some reason, but I'm warming up to it.
Max
The wind noise did not come from the panoramic moonroof. While inspecting the rubber insulation on the top of the drivers door I noticed that there was a small area that was not installed exactly right, but I was able to correct it very easily. So far I haven't heard the wind noise anymore. I'll report back if there's any changes.
I'm sure you'll like the panoramic moonroof better than the standard moonroof once you see the operation and openness that you feel inside the car.
Alan
Smoother more accurate sound. BTW: I'm a sound engineer and audio freak for many, many years. LOL
Ask all the questions that you might have...I'll answer them as honestly as possible...I love discussing this wonderful car!
Alan
will take full advantage of all the features of Lexus Bluetooth. Verizon sets up their phones so
only their Bluetooth will have full function. :mad: I have 3 months to go on my Verizon 2 year
contract so I went T Mobile for the ES350 and will use Verizon elsewhere till contract is
up. T Mobile works excellent with ES350 Bluetooth.
Can't find it anywhere in the manual, however.
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
When the little wheel that adjusts the overall dasboard illumination (right to the left of the steering wheel) is pinned to the highest position it keeps everything to the maximum illumination no matter what. Just move it out of that position by a tiny bit (there's a detent, so you'll feel it) and all is well.
First of all, the increase of power is quite significant and is most apparent when accelerating from 20-30 mph. In the past (ES 300), you had to hope for the best and allow a great deal of distance to accelerate. Between the anemic engine and the horrible throttle response on earlier generations, acceleration from 20-30 mph was, shall we just say, "leisurely." No more. This thing's got balls. Yes, it still is more of a boulevard cruiser that a real sports sedan, but it now has an engine with some umph and a responsive transmission to go with it. The engine is a bit louder than previous generations, however and unlike the past, is a bit audible at idle with the audio system off. Depending on your tastes this is perhaps not such a bad thing, however.
I don't like where the put the seat ventillation/heat controls. You have to look under the armrest to see them and use them and I can easily imagine forgetting to reset them to their off, detent positions. The ES 300/330 had them on the center stack with indicator lights, a much better arrangement. Also, as others have commented, the "ventillation" function of these seats is entirely worthless. They only blow the faintest amount of air. Perhaps Lexus will address this in the near future.
I do miss the strip of wood over the glove box though the interior is very modern and attractive. In typical Lexus fashion, everything works like a fine Swiss watch.
I wish they had left a seperate window for the climate control. As it is, it shares the main screen and to adjust anything you must switch away from the map display. This makes it a bit of a pain to cut out the A/C condenser after you press "Auto." In the past this had its own dedicated button on the center stack. No more. I also wish they had seperate windows for the exterior temp and the trip computer displays. As it is they share a small rectangular window between the speedo and tach. If you want to display 'Average MPG,' for instance, the outside temp is only shown in very small numbers below this. In the past the outside temp had its own spot in a window on the center stack and the trip computer functions had their own display. Ah well, progress.
The swiveling headlights are VERY cool and really do exactly what they're advertised to do. What's best is that you can really see their illumination pattern moving as you steer the steering wheel.
The Bluetooth system works perfectly and the clarity is simply astounding. I have a feeling that once I start getting used to this I'll never even think of driving a car without it again (pretty much the same reaction I had to having a nav system).
Keyless entry and start?! Absolutely ridiculously useless feature. Where do I put all my keys? With a normal car they hung happily from the dash as I drove; now I think I'll just have to throw them in the cup holders while I'm driving. I know "everyone's doing it" but it's just plain dumb and an example of technology looking for an application. In this case it found one and it was worse than pointless. Again, 'oh well,' progress marches on I suppose.
The interior lighting is gorgeous and incredibly classy looking, as are the little "puddle lamps" (is that what they're called?) mounted under each side mirror.
The seat extender (on the driver's seat) is pretty much worthless. It hardly comes out at all but who cares, the seats are extremely comfortable anyway.
The ride is simply wonderful. Firmer than bebfore but still able to soak up pretty much anything that comes its way. Much less body lean than in the past though it's still no BMW 5 series.
MPG you ask? So far on about 75% highway driving, I'm getting 26-27 mpg! Compared to the 18-19 mpg I was getting in the 2002 ES300, I'd say that's pretty damn impressive.
All in all, I give this car an A- on an absolute basis.
On a value for dollar basis, it gets a solid A+.
Get the UL package, the Mark Levinson system alone is worth the price.
Oh yeah, I forgot to comment on the audio system.
Simple, I've been a serious audiophile for years and this system is just awesome!
Hang in there, I'm sure you'll get yours soon enough.
I really do think you'll love it!
thanks
Max
Haven't played much with it but I do like the look of it. It looks very 'high techy' and I think it's cool that the rear seat passengers have their own little window on the [vertical] world. It gives the car's interior a more open, spacious look and feel.
I chose the package just to get the better audio system (which is very good!)......but have come to realize that the panoramic roof is very nice.......we get all these ooh and aah from friends who have been in the car's back seat..and it makes it seem more airy and spacious. Also the glass roof makes the exterior look better.
I find the keyless start quite nifty never having to fumble for keys (works better for my wife who just leaves it in her purse).
MPG has been 25.1 for pretty slow bay area stop and go traffic which is very nice (that was one of the reasons I chose ES over M35 which is also a very nice car).
Acceleration is good, ride is smooth (all the usual lexus char with a better acceleration)
Air conditioning is very effective, AFS works well.......spoken vice commands are a hit or miss......hopefully will get better with a software patch
With all the electronics I have been debating whether I should get extended warranty if I decide to keep it beyond 4 years.........thoughts?
You say Keyless entry and start?! Absolutely ridiculously useless feature. Where do I put all my keys?
Answer: Just keep them in your pocket and the ladies can just keep them in your purse!
Seems like another case of 'law suit-o-phobia' or "let's let the lawyers let us know what the hell we can and cannot do."
What a major league drag. :mad:
Much appreciated though.
That's what's so great about this board.
in this car is computer driven and premium gas is very important to proper performance. I
tried regular gas and it caused a problem almost immediately with the synchronization of
the engine and transmission. Problem with this is on acceleration the engine reeves and
transmission lags for an instant before it realizes its time to go. Same for deceleration. I added a can of 106 octane booster to the tank of regular gas and the
problem ceased as fast as it arrived. :surprise:
Multitasking has it’s place and that place is not in a car that is under way.
Sound quality is essentially perfect and it makes the 'flexibility' of the six CD changer look like a kindergartener's plaything.
This feature may be second only to the Bluetooth and nav in its "cool quotient."
I've only had this car for three days and I'm loving it more each day.