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Living in New York City
I've always loved Jeeps but they were not "practical"
for the family back in the day.Son is grown and is on his own.So....I'm hopefully going to purchase the newly redesigned Jeep Wrangler this coming fall.
I've owned a Bronco II when I was in the service in the late 80's.Did a lot off-roading with my fellow soldiers.
I currently own a 1990 Toyota Camry,but last winter the poor thing was having fits in the snow.So,this winter she will be kept in the garage and the Wrangler will take up those duties and whatever else I can think of.
I just found this group while reading the mail on the Hyundai Elantra group to which I belong.
I own a 1990 Wrangler with the 4 cylinder engine which I bought used off a buy here pay here lot on Phoenix, in 2000.
Right after I bought it, it would occaisionally refuse to start when hot. After it would cool down for a couple of hours, it would start just fine. At first, the dealer thought "O.K., dumb female" untill it happened to HIM after it was towed to his shop. They rolled it off the wrecker, and he tried to start it, no luck. It was late so he waited till the next morning, tried again with the tech. standing with him, no dice. So they pushed it to the tec's bay, hooked it op, turned the key and it fired right up. He told me that unless it did it while on the machene, they could not troubleshoot it.
Sooo... I went to the local wrecking yard, and bought an intake manifold for a CJ-7, went to Checker auto parts and got a rebuilt CJ-7 carb, pulled the fuel injection off, and installed the carb system. I then took the engine management computer out of the car, and threw it in my burn pit.
The induction system taken care of, I went back to the Checker store, and a sixty year old parts clerk there told me that a distributor off a 1968 Ford pinto would drop right in, so I bought it, along with the spark control box, dropped it in, and rewired the engine harness, installing mechanical guages. The Jeep runs better that new. (Guess I'm not such a dumb female after all).
I'm going to keep the jeep till they come out with a 4 cylinder diesel powered Wrangler. I rock collect, and have had mine in places where only mountain goats would tread.
Name: Sabrina Hill
Occupation: Retired Army
Location: Salt Flats, Texas, ofer by Guadeloupe Peak.
Single, always been, I'm married to my 1940 Taylorcraft
Black 2001 sport, no mods (yet-bwahaha).
Name is Ben. Live in Atlanta. What's up with so many of you in Atlanta not waving? Jeez, I have only been driving mine for a couple of months, but I figured it out.
I also have a question, I hope someone can answer. I bought a 2005 Wrangler 'X'. I have been looking for a "cover" that I cn put on it to keep the weather out when my soft top is off. All I can find say they fit submodel TJ. Is my jeep considered submodel TJ?
Any ideas or suggestions out there is greatly appreciated.
Best regards and hope to wave at you on or off the road, -graywolf
Something like this?
Wranglers come in 3 flavors:
- YJ's have the square headlights and were made from 86-95 IIRC.
- TJ's have the round headlights (like the older CJ's and tradtional Jeeps) and have model designations 97-06).
- JK's are the new kids on the block and you can surely tell them.
Bestop, as mac pointed out, makes a cover. If you want a cover you can use when the doors are off, try http://www.jeepcovers.com. They are about the ONLY ones I know of that cover the open door area.
The image above is a YJ, but they make a version for the TJ and even the TJ Unlimited (longer wheelbase version).
It works VERY well and is the top I use on mine during the summer months.
Take care -graywolf
This is an unlimited...
This is a standard Wrangler (TJ) - okay not so 'standard' but standard length
Notice the difference in the sheetmetal right behind the door and before the rear wheel. If you have an Unlimited and don't tell them you have one, the cover you get will be too short.
BTW, the Jeepcovers.com Rain Gear cover sells for right around 100 AND you generally get a free hat with it.
SE - 4 cylinder model - basic
X - Like the SE but with 6 cylinders
Sport - most popular 6 cyl and lotsa other goodies
Sahara - the 'luxury' version of the Wrangler, if there is such a thing
Rubicon - the offroad ready, D44 front/rear loaded Jeep
TJ X will use a standard TJ jeep cover. You are good to go.
I hope there'll be a link to this one when Jeep Wrangler becomes read only.
Mac, I'm glad you're here. You've provided me with a lot of information in my quest to get my Jeep to where it is.
I try to help out in the problems area too when I can, but I'm nowhere near the resource that Mac is!
I'm not sure I even understand what Edmunds is trying to do.
So, this is where we "hang out"?
Time will tell.
Just think of it as the new "Jeep Wrangler" forum. Come here instead of the old one (and don't worry about the logic, or lack thereof).
Probably the most common problem with post production applied undercoating is the propensity for incomplete adhesion, causing skin failure in those areas which is followed by moisture penetration and entrapment. It's not long after that, that the inevitable appearance of rust occurs.
TJs have an excellent reputation in regard to corrosion, both of the body and the chassis. I'm sure that there are the odd few that have suffered badly in the 'winter salt' states, but if you have one of those........it's too late!
I suggest that you use a pressure cleaner to clean the underside, followed by a product called POR 15 on the chassis as necessary (Google will tell you all about it). Just keep everything clean after that and you should be fine.
I'm just using Rustoleum for touchups right now, but as my skids take a beating, I'm considering POR15 black as a way to keep the skids looking good and preventing them from rusting.
I shall be following them both until that happens, and I'm also tracking the 'Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions' forum, assuming that it too doesn't disappear or become locked.
Don't ask me about the logic, I just hang out here.
Last weekend, the wife and I were coming back from a quick weekend getaway (just the two of us). I was watching to see how folks were towing Wranglers and found quite a few of them were towing 4 wheels down behind RV's and a couple behind an F-250 and one behind a Dodge 2500.
I know that I have the power as well as a heavy duty hitch installed on the GC, but the question is: "what is the best way to tow; 4 down, 2 down, or 4 up?" :confuse:
If 4 down, what would anyone recommend as a good tow bar to purchase? We are all going down to NC for Thanksgiving and would like to tow the Wrangler in order to have it to play with while we are down there. Also, we are going want to take it down to Florida after Christmas.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated!
Happy Jeepin' - Chuck
Two up on a dolly works has the advantage of easier storage, but the downsides are also as above plus added wear on the Wrangler, and the inability to back-up easily.
Four down on an 'A' frame removes the disadvantages of rental or purchase/maintenance/storage of a trailer or dolly. Downsides are, even more wear on the Wrangler than on a dolly, even harder to back-up than a dolly, GC won't be the best vehicle to tow with.
To elaborate on the last, when towing with an 'A' frame you rely on the self centering action of the steering of the towed vehicle to keep it in line. If you make too tight a radius turn with the tow vehicle, the steered wheels of the towed vehicle will go past the point at which they can return easily and will go to full lock and stay there. The short wheelbase of a Wrangler exacerbates this tendency.
If you use an RV as a tow vehicle it will be hard to turn the Wrangler tightly enough to trigger this effect, but your GC will manage it easily. The other issue is the leverage that the Wrangler can exert on the rear of the tow vehicle. It will will be much harder to push an RV around than it will your GC.
Cost, convenience, and safety all factor in. Best for me might be different to best for you.
Anyway, I'm thinking of ordering a new 2 door Sahara, but I'm concerned by the early "bugs" and potential water leaks that I have heard about. Can anyone elaborate on what the normal time frame is for a company to catch and rectify these problems (if they exist) at production?.
The TJ appeared in late '96 as a '97 model. It basically took until the '98 1/2 model to come good. That's not to say that the first models were all rubbish, but there were major running fixes all through '97 until midway through the '98 model when the HVAC controls were changed.
Obviously, changes have been made since '98 1/2 but they have mostly been model changes and facelifts.
So personally, I have no desire to be the 'first on the block', but do remember that even the first one off the the line comes with a warranty!
I think that the current main forum (this one) should be retained under one name or another. However, if the 'Problems and Solutions' has to be subdivided then it might make sense to have 'P&S: pre 1997', a 'P&S: '97-'06', and 'P&S: '07 on'.
What do members and hosts think?
The P&S board will also undergo "fine tuning." Your point is well taken and we'll have to think about how to work it.
Having towed a boat for many years, I am not worried about the backing up issue. However, I am concerned about the possibility of wear and tear on the Wrangler tranny. Also, I wonder about any potential problems of the towing on the GC.
What possible problems would I encounter to the Jeep and the GC if I towed with an A-frame? If I did use the A-frame, what position would be best to put the shifter in assuming that I put the 4-wd trans shifter in neutral?
A long time ago I suggested that we set up a few discussions that would answer some of the most frequently asked Jeep questions, and there was an overwhelming sentiment among the members at that time that doing so would keep new folks from "joining the community." It was felt that they would just go to the thread that pertained to their question, get their answer, and then disappear.
I could see what the folks were talking about and became convinced that they were right. I decided that it would NOT be a good idea after all.
Now, it looks like that is going to happen, and it will be carried much farther than what I proposed back then. I was only suggesting that a few new dicsusions be set up for the very most common issues, not a thread for every subject.
What will happen if someone comes into this general discussion and posts a technical question? Will his post be moved? If we want to he helpful to others, do we have to check every single discussion to see if there are new questions posted there?
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
The GC should be fine if you're within the recommended limits, but a transmission cooler is always a good idea.
Biggest problem with the Wrangler will be tire wear, especially the fronts. They tend to shimmy when pulled instead of pushed, though if you adjust the toe to a minimal positive setting it may counteract it. Transfer case should be in neutral with the transmission in 'Park', or in any gear if it's a manual. Remember to unlock the steering as well!
Unless you're going to do this regularly, it probably makes sense to just rent a trailer for the trip. 'U Haul', Hertz, Penske etc. should all have something suitable.
Wrangler is red with a black hardtop. The previous owner put on nice Jeep aluminum wheels and Goodyear Wrangler tires.
We are owners only since August 31st, but this group is the best at offering comments on Edmunds. I also follow Chevrolet Impala and Toyota Highlander. Although new to Jeep Wranglers, I have already found some of best of Jeep shopping and internet sites.
It may be of interest that my son is a drummer and we fit the entire drum set in the Jeep by temporarily taking out the back seat.
I will be going over Wrangler: Problems and Solutions later.
My personal exposure to the Liberty is rather limited, so the problems I've seen may not be representative of the marque as a whole. Perhaps you might like to read the views of quite a few '03 owners here.
Thanks, Mac; I've since talked with a few owners and that's been my impression as well.
I can't say that I'm overly impressed with the DC Certified program either
That wasn't a major selling point for me, but I'd still hate to pay extra for an inferior CPO program.
Guess I'll have to explore options outside the Jeep fold...
No problems yet, except a minor fuse blew that wouldn't allow the car to start (if you can call that minor /major).
We have just over 20,000 miles on it. Taken it on the beach in Florida, the mountains in NC (off roading - slightly), and of course all over northern VA which is where we are from.
Didn't consider the Commander, but assuming that you have the same package as the GC, I would expect that you could get the same happiness from that car as we have from the GC.
HOWEVER, it ain't no WRANGLER and there is absolutely no comparable vehicle to the 'original', no matter what the Japanese wannabee's say!
My TJ was a first year of production. Other than the manifold breaking (still fairly common in newer TJ's), and a nagging pinion seal leak, it is has been a good Jeep.
It had the radiator leak that still happens (cuz it is essentially the same radiator) to newer TJ's as well, but I fixed that myself.
Edit: please note that this is the first post in 3 days to the new "hangin' out" forum.
Edmunds Brass (this is not directed at our friendly hosts) - -All your doing is killing this forum. When we were told that the forum would change to this format, there wasn't one positive response by the folks that frequent this site the most. I've been monitoring this forum for about 2 years now and try to contribute now and then if there's a subject I feel confident about. Mac, Tom, Mtgrl and many others have been here longer and are nice enough to field most of the questions. None of us feel like perusing 500 topics with one or two posts. (it will reach 500 in no time by the way.....actually it probably won't without anyone to answer the questions!). I've used this forum for many do-it-yourself projects and have saved a lot of money from the great suggestions from Mac and the gang.
I wonder what Daimler Chrysler thinks about this? I'm sure in one way or another they contribute to your site. There's a whole lot of talk about 2007 Wranglers on this site. It'd be a shame to drive away DC's best advertising. Word of mouth and good testimonials go a long way in someone making the decision to buy a new vehicle.
Listen to the folks that make these forums what they are. Go back to the way it was!!!!!