I may want to avoid "dealer prep" when my '08 GT500 finally arrives. However, I have heard a rumor to the effect that the dealership has to trigger an electronic board of some nature for the engine to perform to proper specifications. Supposedly, this deters theft. Any credibility to this claim?
The PCM Calibration must be reset to restore the full power to the engine. If it is not the engine won't get full power.
They can do the PDI and you can instruct them to not remove any packaging or do any clean up if don't want them to.
Also let them know not to mount the front License bracket if you rather not put it on. Assuming your state requires one. Some people don't want it on even though their state requires it because they don't want holes in the bumper that requires mounting the bracket.
Thank you shelbydude. That is valuable information to know.
Mark - I read that the front license plate bracket arrives in the trunk of new vehicles, ready for dealer installation. Perhaps "bracket" is the wrong term.
Yes, there IS a front plate bracket. I should know because it is mounted on the front bumper on my car!
The bracket is in the trunk of the car when it arrives at the dealership and the service department installs it when they PDI the car. Now if you live in a State that doesn't require a plate on the front then there won't be a bracket with the car. It comes with cars in States that require front plates.
If you go to my carspace album photo's I have posted a picture of my front plate and you can clearly see the black plastic frame around my front plate. The bracket was in the trunk of my car the day it was delivered. Dealer prep installed.
On page 27 of the recent issue of "Modified Mustangs" you will see Carroll Shelby's own vista blue 2007 GT500. His license plate bracket is mounted on the front of the car. I assume it is the stock version that comes with the car. Frankly, I like the looks of it. To each his own, I guess. I will be getting a combo. veteran's/vanity plate and plan to have it on the front and back. My state requires it and I have no intention of giving a patrolman an excuse to pull me over.
I just serviced my GT500 in my own garage. Mine has been on jackstands for the winter, so sliding under it to change the oil was no big deal. The filter is easy to access from underneath, however it is just above part of the steering components so a little extra care is taken to not spill oil on the steering brace. Really no problem. I have 2 other vintage Mustangs and always service my own. Hope this helps.
Have you received your Shelby back from the body shop? How do they look? Did they need to add any plastic? Did they bolt on or use the tape? Enquiring minds need to know. HA! HA! Pictures, pictures, please. What ever happened to fastforagirl pictures? I wonder if she has turned her key off yet? HA! HA!
They just fininshed priming them. He has to wetsand them today and hopefully get them painted today. It is taking longer than I thought.
He doesn't need to add any filling. Just had sand them to fit them right. Then prime. Then sand. Then prime some more. Now wet sand and then paint, they mount them. No bolts. They apply with 3M tape.
Once they are mounted they have to sit 24 hours before driving to give the tape time to set up properly.
I will get pics when it is done. I'm guessing Tues. or Wed. at this point, unless he can get them painted and mounted by the end of today.
Common ramps at NAPA or similar will work, but you have to use a couple of short 2 x 6's laid at the bottom of the ramp to elevate the front of the car enough to start up the ramps. I use a typical long handle floor jack to raise my cars and then put jackstands with adjustable heights under the frame. Put rags on the jackstands to keep from scratching the frame.
Years ago, I gave up on ramps because I was unable to use them properly and ended up giving them away. One of two things would happen - either the ramps would slide away across the garage floor as I tried to drive up them or I would scrape the bottom front of the car nose along the top of the metal ramp - ouch! Perhaps the design(s) have improved. I will shop around or wait until someone on the forum can point to a specific brand of ramp that works with the GT500 trouble free.
I had the same problem with my ramps, mine I think are in my basement. Randy are you looking for something so you can do your own oil changes? I think a lift would probably be best for these cars where there so low. I know there a lot of money to buy and you need a garage with space and height to use them. I have a friend who has a lift in his garage and I would be able to use it if I wanted. Your not that far from me, so that's an option if you would like. Took mine out today and took for an hour plus drive. It felt great to drive it again. Forgot how bad the wheel hop was when you get on it. I don't do it often, not that type of driver. Car has way too much power for back end. Taking it to work tonight with me so if anyone see's it tearing up 95N give me a toot. :shades:
Yup...some turkey mechanic stripped the oil pan plug on my '68 GT500, and I don't want to run the risk with my new '08. I really want to do my own oil changes. I may look for a place nearby that has a lift I can rent to do my own. I don't remember any wheel hop in my '68. The previous owner of my '67 Sunbeam Tiger put traction bars on it, which prevented rear end problems when accelerating. So I was told. The new GT500 must have a lot of torque for this to be a problem - understatement, I'm sure.
Randy, here's a thought for you. When I bought my house in 86 the previous owner had made a set of pressure treated ramps that were a good ten feet long. They began flush with the ground and only went up the height of a filled cement block 12"x6"x8". He had the Pressure treated 2"x10"'s laying on the ground and built up under them with dirt right up to and around the cement block. He then dug out a narrow center section down about a foot and he did all this on a slight downwards grade in my back yard. He had grass growing to hold the dirt in place. Primitive, but................If you do this make sure you screw down some stops so you don't drive off of them and don't forget to block the back of the rear tires. Home made oil changing ramps. That's how us New Englander's living here in the valley do it. HA! HA! I took my baby to work last night and it is filthy. I need to give her a bath tomorrow with my Mr Clean wash do hicky. :shades:
You are right about sliding ramps. I jack up car, put ramps under front wheels, service and clean, and back down ramps. Even with jackstands under car I leave the ramps under front or rear wheels as and extra safety measure.
Yesterday I ordered my key chain and ball cap from FoMo, even though I have yet to purchase the car. Call it anticipation; I guess.
I visited one of the dealerships I was trying to secure a sale from and the salesman I was working with had just quit. Of course, no notification, I discovered this by chance. I spoke to his replacement and the young sales rep seemed befuddled when I asked about the GT500. He stated, "well, you know...they're only making one thousand of those cars a year." At that, I bid him good day and my wife and I left. :confuse:
Indeed, I do, shelbydude. But no point in burning bridges. I figure I owe the other dealerships I have spoke with the courtesy of knowing where I'm at in the purchase process. And, as we know, there is no sure thing in this business.
As a sales manager, I would task my new associates to know their product. Imagine how embarrassing it is to have a customer know more than the salesperson. For example, when I ask about the difference between a Shaker 500 and a Shaker 1000 sound system, I expect an astute reply. If not, it shakes (excuse the pun) my confidence in further discussion. The dealership I ordered my '08 GT500 from had me speak directly with the sales manager from the getgo, and he was all business,i.e., he knew his stuff.
I see alot of you post over in the Mustang Blue Oval Forums too. I have gotten some great information from both forums for what it is worth. Sure wish Bad Girl would have posted some pics of her car here. She must still be on the road? LOL Anyway, here is my news. A friend of mine works in the Shelby Plant in Flat Rock. I told him my car was scheduled for production on 032607 and he said he would watch for it. This morning I got the following email from him. " Your Car is scheduled to be built on 03-30-07. It will be held a couple of days in the Paint Shop for extra special inspection. Then a couple of more days because it has to be sent across to another building to have the stripes put on. One bad thing that I did hear is that It will be shipped by rail and there is a shortage of rail cars to send them on so I don't know how long that will take? I will try to keep you posted. It's kinda like having a baby, isn't it. LoL Pretty exciting!"
I thought you all might enjoy this. I will post it in Blue Oval also since there has been some talk about the striping department behind about 200 cars.
Mark
2007 Shelby Cobra GT500 Ordered 022207 Received VIN on 031207 (1ZVHT88S275329484) Scheduled for production 032607 Black with White Stripes Nav System Premium Trim Package Sirius Radio
I agree they should know what there selling, however we on the other hand have thought very little about anything but these cars over the last two and a half years. We have followed every piece of news that Ford has released and most of us have pleaded with Amy to let us know more. If you ask me I think we're all a bunch of pretty smart cookies when it comes to the GT 500.
I think you have done very well having yours built a month after you placed your order. I'm surprised there was one left to order a month ago. You should see yours by the end of April. Don't worry too much about the back up on stripes or rail cars, I went through the same last August for mine. Mine was also held up for the clutch inspections. If it is built this week you will see it by the end of April. As for "fastforagirl" she will eventually get around to posting pictures. She's gonna run out of gas sooner or later.
I'm hoping the initial hype and whining over the release of the KR will subside so that I (we) can discover some useful information, such as price and how to secure an order. I suspect the Shelby upgrade package to a KR will be 15K at the very least. Who will be shipping the car to Vegas and then to the buyer, the Ford dealership or the private buyer?
Sorry to all Shelby owners, I got to ask our sales dealer what he thinks. I just bought a new 06 Ranger leftover (torch red- blah) FX4 Off Road 2 dr 4x4 automatic supercab, Sticker price $24,660. Paid $20,060. OK deal or did I get taken? Bickering with dealer over $100, but paid $20K premium last June for my Shelby, different dealership. Go figure. HA! HA! :confuse:
I, too, am starting to feel a kinship to FoMoCo. If my Shelby purchase goes off without a hitch, I will return and buy a Ford commuter car when my Nissan gives up the ghost. I like the idea of buying American.
Invoice $22,995 - $3,000 Final Pay Cash = $19,995 Dealer invoice after final pay.
That would be dealer invoice after the final pay cash from Ford. The final pay cash is what the dealer gets from Ford after Ford eliminates the rebates. Final pay amounts vary depending on vehicle. Rangers had $3,000
So it would appear you bought it for $65 over invoice after getting the final pay cash applied.
What dealer did you buy it at? The one I found was in MA. Sunnyside is where it is at. Torch Red.
Nothing wrong with that deal, BUT, you are not going to like this. You could get basically the same truck for about the same deal after the $2,000 rebate and $500 auto show cash. But this auto show cash is for my area. Incentives are regional.
I just checked the zip code for the dealer in MA. For that area there is just the $2,000 rebate.
The other thing is Ford has lowered MSRP on 07 VS 06.
For example, the 06 that has an MSRP of $24,660. Base MSRP before any options is $24,025
The same truck on a 07 has a base MSRP of $21,915
The 07 I found has the same equipment as the 06 plus the rear jump seats which a $225 option.
So total MSRP on the 07 is $23,775
Invoice $22,567
So for $65 over invoice you could buy the 07 for $20,632 after the $2,000 rebate.
So for $572 more you could have gotten a 07 and that is with the extra $225 option for the rear jump seats.
The biggest difference being the year difference. About $3,000 difference in depreciation with the 06 being a year older.
If you plan to trade it within 3 - 4 years that would make a big difference. If you plan to drive it until the wheels fall off or at least keep it longer than 5 years then it doesn't make much of a difference.
Sunnyside Ford is where I bought it. He had two 06's left in inventory and I took his FX4 off road over the XLT. I thought the FX4 gave me a much smoother ride plus it had all the extra options for highway driving. I do 30,000 a year commuting back and forth to work. I feel good knowing I paid a little over invoice. In addition to the $65 over invoice does the dealership still get the additional 3% holdback for MSRP from Ford? This is my third Ranger. My first 1983 sold to brother @ 200,000 miles, 1994 Ranger gave to son @ 285,000 miles and still going strong. This is where I saw the black vert for $69K. Thank you SD.
The concept seems to be the same as the Shelby GT. Take a brand new Shelby GT500 that just came down the line, ship it to Shelby's factory in Las Vegas to be fitted with some Ford Racing upgrades then ship to dealer for sale.
My question is, will the number of GT500s that are available now get reduced by 1000?
.........first step will be grabbing your ankles..... That's funny.
Shelbydude the scoops on your car are nice. Thanks for the pictures.
Randy I read this and think of the 8-9000 08's there planning on building they will allow 1000 to be sent for the upgrade I think. I'm sure shelbydude might know the answer for sure.
'Just bought a poster of the 2007 GT500 off of eBay. I asked the seller if she worked for Ford and here was her reply: "Hi, Well i guess you could say i do but, no...i'ts my husband, my dad and my father-in-law..ALL work for FORD. My husband and father-in-law are SALESMEN..my dad is an engineer and is presently closing down the Atlanta Plant." Regards, Julie
What was made at the Atlanta Plant? I hope it isn't being moved to across the border somewhere.
I foresee an awkward scenario coming up for the KR. Those of us at the front of the line for an '08 may hold out for the KR only to discover that our dealership is not one of the lucky few to access one of these cars. That could mean losing a spot in line for the standard GT500 and coming up empty handed.
Hmm...as they say "a bird in hand." I hope this scenario will soon be clarified.
I read elsewhere in the forums that the ordering banks open April 16th for the 2008 Mustang. I went in to my dealership yesterday and the sales manager attempted to access information to confirm this date and was unsuccessful.
Yes, the ordering banks are suppose to open 4/16 for 08 mustangs. This is posted in Ford's site that shows all the models as to when they start and finish.
There's plenty of excitement over the appearance of the new engine hood for the 2008 GT500KR. Yeah, it looks cool. But keep in mind it's going to ride higher than the standard hood. It reminds me very much of the hood on the 68 GT500 I once owned. Behind the wheel, it's very noticeable - almost obstructs the forward vision to a small degree. Once one gets used to it, not a problem. But it does take some getting used to (as I remember).
Are you thinking of ordering the KR? I seen today for the first time pictures of the black Shelby with the new red option stripes and almost fell off my chair. That is one HOT looking car. I don't care for the red and black interior, but the black and red exterior combo is so HOT. I wonder what my Alloy would look like with the red exterior trim package? I was planning on keeping mine stock and original, however that red option is making me think twice. It wouldn't be too hard to change back the stripes to silver at a later time. I tried to do my oil change today in my garage with my floor jack. I lifted it up until the tire lifted off the floor and couldn't get under the car enough to even find the oil filter. There's quite a few plates and shields under the front of that car. Called my buddy and we will do it next Saturday in his garage. He has two lifts and after todays attempt I have found you need a lift to do it safely and correctly. I'm thinking of adding some Lemans stripes to my new torch red Ranger. Not too sure what color to go with. Rocker panels on my truck are gray and want to go with rocker panel decals to match Shelby. RANGER FX4X4
Ordering a KR seems very problematic at this time. Supposedly, there is a lottery to determine which dealerships can order the car. What happens if you gamble your spot in line and come up empty handed? Perhaps you miss out on the opportunity to order a GT500 altogether. Another concern is price. Keep it under 20g and I can rationalize it. Otherwise, the option seems too much for my pocketbook. After all, can I really appreciate the added 40 HP? The hood and extra badges are certainly nice, but I'm not buying the car for show or as an investment. Lots to think about.
Yeah, I agree...the black with red stripes looks hot.
...........of putting a shine on my Shelby. This is all new to me, but I have read hours over the winter to prepare. I clay barred and began the paint cleaner process yesterday. I was surprised at all the junk that was lifted off a spotless car with the clay. I decided after several hours of research to go with the Meguiars NXT over Zaino. Two reasons I didn't go with Zaino was it's only available on line thru them (price control), and although it has a great reputation I think Meguiars offers just as nice an end result at almost half the cost. I intend on spending the entire day in my garage and I will post photo's on my car space album when I'm finished.
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They can do the PDI and you can instruct them to not remove any packaging or do any clean up if don't want them to.
Also let them know not to mount the front License bracket if you rather not put it on. Assuming your state requires one. Some people don't want it on even though their state requires it because they don't want holes in the bumper that requires mounting the bracket.
Mark
Mark - I read that the front license plate bracket arrives in the trunk of new vehicles, ready for dealer installation. Perhaps "bracket" is the wrong term.
The bracket is in the trunk of the car when it arrives at the dealership and the service department installs it when they PDI the car. Now if you live in a State that doesn't require a plate on the front then there won't be a bracket with the car. It comes with cars in States that require front plates.
components so a little extra care is taken to not spill oil
on the steering brace. Really no problem. I have 2 other vintage Mustangs and always service my own. Hope this helps.
He doesn't need to add any filling. Just had sand them to fit them right. Then prime. Then sand. Then prime some more. Now wet sand and then paint, they mount them. No bolts. They apply with 3M tape.
Once they are mounted they have to sit 24 hours before driving to give the tape time to set up properly.
I will get pics when it is done. I'm guessing Tues. or Wed. at this point, unless he can get them painted and mounted by the end of today.
have to use a couple of short 2 x 6's laid at the
bottom of the ramp to elevate the front of the car
enough to start up the ramps. I use a typical
long handle floor jack to raise my cars and then
put jackstands with adjustable heights under the
frame. Put rags on the jackstands to keep from
scratching the frame.
I don't remember any wheel hop in my '68. The previous owner of my '67 Sunbeam Tiger put traction bars on it, which prevented rear end problems when accelerating. So I was told. The new GT500 must have a lot of torque for this to be a problem - understatement, I'm sure.
Even with jackstands under car I leave the ramps under front
or rear wheels as and extra safety measure.
I visited one of the dealerships I was trying to secure a sale from and the salesman I was working with had just quit. Of course, no notification, I discovered this by chance. I spoke to his replacement and the young sales rep seemed befuddled when I asked about the GT500. He stated, "well, you know...they're only making one thousand of those cars a year." At that, I bid him good day and my wife and I left. :confuse:
Anyway, here is my news. A friend of mine works in the Shelby Plant in Flat Rock. I told him my car was scheduled for production on 032607 and he said he would watch for it. This morning I got the following email from him.
" Your Car is scheduled to be built on 03-30-07. It will be held a couple of days in the Paint Shop for extra special inspection. Then a couple of more days because it has to be sent across to another building to have
the stripes put on. One bad thing that I did hear is that It will be shipped by rail and there is a shortage of rail cars to send them on so I don't know how long that will take? I will try to keep you posted. It's kinda
like having a baby, isn't it. LoL Pretty exciting!"
I thought you all might enjoy this. I will post it in Blue Oval also since there has been some talk about the striping department behind about 200 cars.
Mark
2007 Shelby Cobra GT500
Ordered 022207
Received VIN on 031207 (1ZVHT88S275329484)
Scheduled for production 032607
Black with White Stripes
Nav System
Premium Trim Package
Sirius Radio
2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition
2004 Jeep Liberty
2006 Mustang GT
Formerly Owned 3 Corvettes
http://www.twinoaksrvpark.com/
As for "fastforagirl" she will eventually get around to posting pictures. She's gonna run out of gas sooner or later.
Invoice $22,995 - $3,000 Final Pay Cash = $19,995 Dealer invoice after final pay.
That would be dealer invoice after the final pay cash from Ford. The final pay cash is what the dealer gets from Ford after Ford eliminates the rebates. Final pay amounts vary depending on vehicle. Rangers had $3,000
So it would appear you bought it for $65 over invoice after getting the final pay cash applied.
What dealer did you buy it at? The one I found was in MA. Sunnyside is where it is at. Torch Red.
Nothing wrong with that deal, BUT, you are not going to like this. You could get basically the same truck for about the same deal after the $2,000 rebate and $500 auto show cash. But this auto show cash is for my area. Incentives are regional.
I just checked the zip code for the dealer in MA. For that area there is just the $2,000 rebate.
The other thing is Ford has lowered MSRP on 07 VS 06.
For example, the 06 that has an MSRP of $24,660. Base MSRP before any options is $24,025
The same truck on a 07 has a base MSRP of $21,915
The 07 I found has the same equipment as the 06 plus the rear jump seats which a $225 option.
So total MSRP on the 07 is $23,775
Invoice $22,567
So for $65 over invoice you could buy the 07 for $20,632 after the $2,000 rebate.
So for $572 more you could have gotten a 07 and that is with the extra $225 option for the rear jump seats.
The biggest difference being the year difference. About $3,000 difference in depreciation with the 06 being a year older.
If you plan to trade it within 3 - 4 years that would make a big difference. If you plan to drive it until the wheels fall off or at least keep it longer than 5 years then it doesn't make much of a difference.
This is my third Ranger. My first 1983 sold to brother @ 200,000 miles, 1994 Ranger gave to son @ 285,000 miles and still going strong.
This is where I saw the black vert for $69K. Thank you SD.
I added the upper and lower side scoops, added mirror covers and relocated the Shelby letters on the back across the center where there should be.
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The concept seems to be the same as the Shelby GT. Take a brand new Shelby GT500 that just came down the line, ship it to Shelby's factory in Las Vegas to be fitted with some Ford Racing upgrades then ship to dealer for sale.
My question is, will the number of GT500s that are available now get reduced by 1000?
Mark
That's funny.
Shelbydude the scoops on your car are nice. Thanks for the pictures.
Randy I read this and think of the 8-9000 08's there planning on building they will allow 1000 to be sent for the upgrade I think. I'm sure shelbydude might know the answer for sure.
Regards,
Julie
What was made at the Atlanta Plant? I hope it isn't being moved to across the border somewhere.
The old Taurus.
Hmm...as they say "a bird in hand." I hope this scenario will soon be clarified.
Can anyone shed light on this? Thanks.
Have him type this into the search on FMC Dealer and it will come up. Then go to pages 5 and 6 to get the schedule dates.
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I tried to do my oil change today in my garage with my floor jack. I lifted it up until the tire lifted off the floor and couldn't get under the car enough to even find the oil filter. There's quite a few plates and shields under the front of that car. Called my buddy and we will do it next Saturday in his garage. He has two lifts and after todays attempt I have found you need a lift to do it safely and correctly.
I'm thinking of adding some Lemans stripes to my new torch red Ranger. Not too sure what color to go with. Rocker panels on my truck are gray and want to go with rocker panel decals to match Shelby. RANGER FX4X4
Another concern is price. Keep it under 20g and I can rationalize it. Otherwise, the option seems too much for my pocketbook. After all, can I really appreciate the added 40 HP? The hood and extra badges are certainly nice, but I'm not buying the car for show or as an investment. Lots to think about.
Yeah, I agree...the black with red stripes looks hot.