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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    bmwisbest said:

    Michaell said:

    bmwisbest said:

    Hello, im looking at a 750i xDrive to lease, here is the info...
    MSRP: $124,425
    Sales Price (so far): $107,000
    36 months, 12k/year lease
    Zip code: 60062
    What would the monthly payment be based on this with 0 down payment? Also, any incentives? Trying to get sales price to $102,000

    $0 down, or $0 out of pocket? Not the same thing.

    Is this City of Chicago? If so, you'll pay both state and city tax.

    .00166 and 54%
    0 down, and no im in the suburbs. Thanks.
    So, how much is due at signing?

    With the prices given, I get $1395/mo. Assumes all taxes and fees are paid up front.

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  • bmwisbestbmwisbest Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    bmwisbest said:

    Michaell said:

    bmwisbest said:

    Hello, im looking at a 750i xDrive to lease, here is the info...
    MSRP: $124,425
    Sales Price (so far): $107,000
    36 months, 12k/year lease
    Zip code: 60062
    What would the monthly payment be based on this with 0 down payment? Also, any incentives? Trying to get sales price to $102,000

    $0 down, or $0 out of pocket? Not the same thing.

    Is this City of Chicago? If so, you'll pay both state and city tax.

    .00166 and 54%
    0 down, and no im in the suburbs. Thanks.
    So, how much is due at signing?

    With the prices given, I get $1395/mo. Assumes all taxes and fees are paid up front.
    Sorry, I have a different car this time...
    MSRP: $118,905
    Sales Price (so far): $106,900
    36 months, 12k/year lease
    Cook County, IL tax (Not City of Chicago)
    They are quoting me $1,737.51/month with 0 down payment (taxes included in monthly price) How are they getting such a high monthly price?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    bmwisbest said:

    Michaell said:

    bmwisbest said:

    Michaell said:

    bmwisbest said:

    Hello, im looking at a 750i xDrive to lease, here is the info...
    MSRP: $124,425
    Sales Price (so far): $107,000
    36 months, 12k/year lease
    Zip code: 60062
    What would the monthly payment be based on this with 0 down payment? Also, any incentives? Trying to get sales price to $102,000

    $0 down, or $0 out of pocket? Not the same thing.

    Is this City of Chicago? If so, you'll pay both state and city tax.

    .00166 and 54%
    0 down, and no im in the suburbs. Thanks.
    So, how much is due at signing?

    With the prices given, I get $1395/mo. Assumes all taxes and fees are paid up front.
    Sorry, I have a different car this time...
    MSRP: $118,905
    Sales Price (so far): $106,900
    36 months, 12k/year lease
    Cook County, IL tax (Not City of Chicago)
    They are quoting me $1,737.51/month with 0 down payment (taxes included in monthly price) How are they getting such a high monthly price?
    Ask them for the adjusted cap cost they used for that payment quote - and a full accounting of how they got to that number from the sales price. That should explain a lot of it.

    And, they may be marking up the MF the max allowed to .00206

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  • slolankanslolankan Member Posts: 263
    Hello again!

    Can I get an update o the 7-series (750i) numbers for June?

    24/36 mo - 10k/12k miles

    Any incentives in So Cal region?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    slolankan said:

    Hello again!

    Can I get an update o the 7-series (750i) numbers for June?

    24/36 mo - 10k/12k miles

    Any incentives in So Cal region?

    Thanks!

    12K residuals; add 1% for 10K

    .00166 and 60% / 54%
    No incentives

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  • ericovicericovic Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2018
    HI There,

    Location Los Angles, Please let me know if its a good/average/bad deal?

    2018 740i Stock

    MSRP $94,965

    Selling price $78,215

    Drive off $2,200 (total down payment)

    Rebate + Loyalty $2,000

    10K miles per year

    $993 Including Tax

    Residual % .5500 Money Factor .0016600
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    ericovic said:

    HI There,

    Location Los Angles, Please let me know if its a good/average/bad deal?

    2018 740i Stock

    MSRP $94,965

    Selling price $78,215

    Drive off $2,200 (total down payment)

    Rebate + Loyalty $2,000

    10K miles per year

    $993 Including Tax

    Residual % .5500 Money Factor .0016600

    I confirm the MF and residual.

    $938/mo plus tax, so in the ballpark, depending on your tax rate.

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  • oznefu7oznefu7 Member Posts: 22
    ericovic said:

    HI There,

    Location Los Angles, Please let me know if its a good/average/bad deal?

    2018 740i Stock

    MSRP $94,965

    Selling price $78,215

    Drive off $2,200 (total down payment)

    Rebate + Loyalty $2,000

    10K miles per year

    $993 Including Tax

    Residual % .5500 Money Factor .0016600

    Wow a 17% discount?!
  • Rick222Rick222 Member Posts: 12
    do you have July numbers on the 750 and 740e. MF, Residual for 36/10 Also what is the average negotiated price? Looks like it ranges from about 8-18%

    Thanks for your help.

    Rick
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    Rick222 said:

    do you have July numbers on the 750 and 740e. MF, Residual for 36/10 Also what is the average negotiated price? Looks like it ranges from about 8-18%

    Thanks for your help.

    Rick

    What ZIP?

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  • rayyyyyrayyyyy Member Posts: 28
    Can I get MF/residual/incentives for 740e? Zip is 98260
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    rayyyyy said:

    Can I get MF/residual/incentives for 740e? Zip is 98260

    36/15
    .00166 MF and 52% residual
    $1500 lease credit

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  • arch216arch216 Member Posts: 8
    Hi, Looking to lease a 2019 740i msrp was 87,155
    they discounted it to 70,607( residual @ 47,9500
    in the quote the dealer placed the usual fees totaling 1,600 and change for inceptions
    however he added 4,351 in "tax "
    so the price increased to 76,9913
    it states my total due ant signing is 5,999 i know a portion of that is for inspection and the rest is to help bring down the cost to 70 k
    but the sale tax I am in FL with sales tax at 7% i thought the tax is only on the amount leased in this case 22,707 and of course the rent charge please let me know if this is correct
    my quoted payment on the above is 992 a month including tax

    please let me know what you think of the above deal
    and please let me know what the money factor is currently in July

    Thanks !!
  • arch216arch216 Member Posts: 8
    sorry the zip above is 33463 palm beach county florida Thanks !!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    arch216 said:

    Hi, Looking to lease a 2019 740i msrp was 87,155
    they discounted it to 70,607( residual @ 47,9500
    in the quote the dealer placed the usual fees totaling 1,600 and change for inceptions
    however he added 4,351 in "tax "
    so the price increased to 76,9913
    it states my total due ant signing is 5,999 i know a portion of that is for inspection and the rest is to help bring down the cost to 70 k
    but the sale tax I am in FL with sales tax at 7% i thought the tax is only on the amount leased in this case 22,707 and of course the rent charge please let me know if this is correct
    my quoted payment on the above is 992 a month including tax

    please let me know what you think of the above deal
    and please let me know what the money factor is currently in July

    Thanks !!

    We see a lot of quotes that have all of the amounts for a purchase.... then, a lease quote, that doesn't necessarily use all of those numbers that were given.
    You are correct.. in FL, the only sales tax that is collected upfront on a lease, is tax on taxable amounts that are paid upfront (CAP cost reductions, rebates, acquisition fees, etc.). FL taxes the monthly payment.

    .00166 MF and 52% residual for 36/15

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  • hufingtonhufington Member Posts: 10
    How do you think is this deal?

    2018 750ix
    MSRP: $108,955
    Price: $98,955
    Loyalty incentive: $2,000
    Sales Price: $96,955
    Residual price: $59,925
    Money Factor:0.00166
    Money Factor with MSD: 0.00131
    NJ Taxes upfront
    Term: 36 months
    Mileage: 10K/year

    Without MSD:
    Monthly $1,230 and upfront $6,427 including 1st payment, tax, DMV and all fees.

    With MSD:
    Monthly $1,175 and upfront $14,644 including 1st payment, tax, DMV and all fees.

    I am trying to find a deal to bring the monthly payment below 1K.

    Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    2018 750ix
    MSRP: $108,955
    Price: $98,955
    Loyalty incentive: $2,000
    Sales Price: $96,955
    Residual price: $59,925
    Money Factor:0.00166
    Money Factor with MSD: 0.00131
    NJ Taxes upfront
    Term: 36 months
    Mileage: 10K/year

    Without MSD:
    Monthly $1,230 and upfront $6,427 including 1st payment, tax, DMV and all fees.

    With MSD:
    Monthly $1,175 and upfront $14,644 including 1st payment, tax, DMV and all fees.

    I am trying to find a deal to bring the monthly payment below 1K.

    Thanks.

    I get $1289/mo with the base MF, and $1234/mo with the adjusted MF for MSD.

    To get to under $1000/mo, you'll need to knock off another $6-7K off the CAP cost.

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  • hufingtonhufington Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:

    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    To get to under $1000/mo, you'll need to knock off another $6-7K off the CAP cost.

    Do you think is this doable in August or do I need to wait until the end of the year for the dealers to feel more pressed to sell? Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    hufington said:

    Michaell said:

    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    To get to under $1000/mo, you'll need to knock off another $6-7K off the CAP cost.

    Do you think is this doable in August or do I need to wait until the end of the year for the dealers to feel more pressed to sell? Thanks.
    It's not likely you'll get a $110K 7-Series under $1000/mo, at any point.

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  • hufingtonhufington Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2018
    A good friend of mine drives a 750 which was an executive demo with 118K MSP and he is paying $899 a month. The car had just 3K on the odo when he leased it with 0 down in 2016.
    kyfdx said:

    hufington said:

    Michaell said:

    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    It's not likely you'll get a $110K 7-Series under $1000/mo, at any point.


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    hufington said:

    A good friend of mine drives a 750 which was an executive demo with 118K MSP and he is paying $899 a month. The car had just 3K on the odo when he leased it with 0 down in 2016.


    kyfdx said:

    hufington said:

    Michaell said:

    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    It's not likely you'll get a $110K 7-Series under $1000/mo, at any point.

    Different programs then - higher residual and lower MF. Can't compare two years ago to today.

    Keep us posted - would love to be proven wrong.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    hufington said:

    A good friend of mine drives a 750 which was an executive demo with 118K MSP and he is paying $899 a month. The car had just 3K on the odo when he leased it with 0 down in 2016.


    kyfdx said:

    hufington said:

    Michaell said:

    hufington said:

    How do you think is this deal?

    It's not likely you'll get a $110K 7-Series under $1000/mo, at any point.


    That's great for him. Irrelevant to the current lease program on a 2018 model.

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  • berger2626berger2626 Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2018
    Looking to lease a 2019 BMW 760i.  MSRP is $174,345. Cap cost will be approximately $150,000,

    What is the August MF buy rate and the residual for a 36 month, 10,000 mile lease?

    With $150,000 cap cost, what should approximate ballpark payment be for zero down, inceptions upfront only?  Georgia lease.

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066

    Looking to lease a 2019 BMW 760i.  MSRP is $174,345. Cap cost will be approximately $150,000,

    What is the August MF buy rate and the residual for a 36 month, 10,000 mile lease?

    With $150,000 cap cost, what should approximate ballpark payment be for zero down, inceptions upfront only?  Georgia lease.

    Thank you.

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    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/52110/bmw/7-series/2019-bmw-7-series-lease-deals-and-prices/p1?new=1

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  • anatolysanatolys Member Posts: 13
    Hi, longtime forum fan, posting for the first time! I'm familiar with the basic leasing formulas but am having trouble understanding how to calculate the numbers when the out of pocket only partially covers the inception fees(bank fee, dmv fee, first month) because it affects the cap cost and tax, which in turn affects the monthly payment, which in turn affects the cap cost addition from not covering everything up front and round and round we go :)

    Selling Price: 86k
    taxable rebates: 3k
    dmv fee: 350
    bank fee: 925
    MF: .00166
    term: 36
    tax rate: 8.875%

    cash as drive off aka out of pocket: 2k

    Somehow with this info they know that my monthly payment is 1,106.02 so when you add that with the dmv and bank fee your total inception fees are 2,381.02 which means I still owe 381.02. That amount gets added to the cap cost like so:

    selling price 86k
    + capped inception fee remainder of 381.02
    - rebate of 3k
    new cap cost of 83,381.02 before tax
    capped taxes of 3,874.90
    total capital cost: 87,255.92

    How did they get the first-month payment which was used to determine how much was being added to the cap when you need to know the total cap and new higher capped taxes to get the monthly payment with all the typical formulas? :) Is it some kind of iterative calculation?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    anatolys said:

    Hi, longtime forum fan, posting for the first time! I'm familiar with the basic leasing formulas but am having trouble understanding how to calculate the numbers when the out of pocket only partially covers the inception fees(bank fee, dmv fee, first month) because it affects the cap cost and tax, which in turn affects the monthly payment, which in turn affects the cap cost addition from not covering everything up front and round and round we go :)

    Selling Price: 86k
    taxable rebates: 3k
    dmv fee: 350
    bank fee: 925
    MF: .00166
    term: 36
    tax rate: 8.875%

    cash as drive off aka out of pocket: 2k

    Somehow with this info they know that my monthly payment is 1,106.02 so when you add that with the dmv and bank fee your total inception fees are 2,381.02 which means I still owe 381.02. That amount gets added to the cap cost like so:

    selling price 86k
    + capped inception fee remainder of 381.02
    - rebate of 3k
    new cap cost of 83,381.02 before tax
    capped taxes of 3,874.90
    total capital cost: 87,255.92

    How did they get the first-month payment which was used to determine how much was being added to the cap when you need to know the total cap and new higher capped taxes to get the monthly payment with all the typical formulas? :) Is it some kind of iterative calculation?

    They calculate the payment without tax. They need that pre-tax payment to calculate the tax owed. Then, the tax is added to the CAP and the payment is re-calculated.

    Having a fixed amount upfront makes it harder for you and me, but the computer program doesn't care. It adjusts the numbers until they match.

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  • anatolysanatolys Member Posts: 13
    Thank you, that's kind of how I thought it worked. When you cap taxes or any of these inception fees, the dealership can also choose to charge you interest on that as well, are they using the money factor for that or some other rate? Any more guidance would be greatly appreciated.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    anatolys said:

    Thank you, that's kind of how I thought it worked. When you cap taxes or any of these inception fees, the dealership can also choose to charge you interest on that as well, are they using the money factor for that or some other rate? Any more guidance would be greatly appreciated.

    Anything you put into the CAP cost is subject to the money factor. Plain and simple. No different from the financed amount on a loan.

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  • anatolysanatolys Member Posts: 13
    Nice, thank you for confirming!
  • Blue993911Blue993911 Member Posts: 5
    Hi, Long time fan! Looking for a 740i. Any rebates for this month? What's the MF and residual for 10k/12k for 36 months? Thanks a bunch!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066

    Hi, Long time fan! Looking for a 740i. Any rebates for this month? What's the MF and residual for 10k/12k for 36 months? Thanks a bunch!

    What ZIP code?

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  • Hi, do we have the September MF/Residuals/Incentives for 740i and 740e yet? Zip: 94087. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066

    Hi, do we have the September MF/Residuals/Incentives for 740i and 740e yet? Zip: 94087. Thanks!

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • Michaell said:
    Hi, do we have the September MF/Residuals/Incentives for 740i and 740e yet? Zip: 94087. Thanks!
    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36 months/10k miles 
  • AHSINNYCAHSINNYC Member Posts: 2
    Car_Man: do you have the residual and MF for a 2018 750i: 10 and 12K miles please. NYC area. Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066


    Michaell said:

    Hi, do we have the September MF/Residuals/Incentives for 740i and 740e yet? Zip: 94087. Thanks!

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    36 months/10k miles 

    .00166 and 55%
    no lease cash on i
    $1500 lease cash on e

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    AHSINNYC said:

    Car_Man: do you have the residual and MF for a 2018 750i: 10 and 12K miles please. NYC area. Thanks

    What lease term?

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  • leaser1234leaser1234 Member Posts: 26
    Can I have MF / residual for a 750i 36/10 and 36/12 lease in NY?
    Any lease cash now?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066

    Can I have MF / residual for a 750i 36/10 and 36/12 lease in NY?
    Any lease cash now?

    Thanks

    .00182 and 55% / 54%
    no lease incentives

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  • mhbrowniemhbrownie Member Posts: 10
    Residual and MF/incentives for 2018 740ex 36/10 and 36/12, Zip code 98366, thank you so much!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    mhbrownie said:

    Residual and MF/incentives for 2018 740ex 36/10 and 36/12, Zip code 98366, thank you so much!

    .00182 and 55% / 54%
    $1500 lease credit

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  • udesai83udesai83 Member Posts: 25
    Hello, may I have residual and MF/incentives for 2018 740ex 36/12, Zip code 63303
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    udesai83 said:

    Hello, may I have residual and MF/incentives for 2018 740ex 36/12, Zip code 63303

    .00182 and 54%
    $1500 lease credit

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  • hanmo77hanmo77 Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2018
    Hello
    2018 7 series 740 or 750 (not e model) 24/12 MF and RV/incentives please. Thanks zip 79606.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    hanmo77 said:

    Hello
    2018 7 series 740 or 750 (not e model) 24/12 MF and RV/incentives please. Thanks zip 79606.

    .00182 and 60%
    no lease incentives
    both models

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  • edscarsedscars Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2019
    thank you for the valuable info. saw a 2018 750i executive demo in showroom. msrp of $101,595 listed at $88,500. about 100 miles. A. can I lease this? if so, what would MF and residual be for 36/15 in 33647. B. any thoughts on a good offer? have a great one! HNY!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,751
    edscars said:

    thank you for the valuable info. saw a 2018 750i executive demo in showroom. msrp of $101,595 listed at $88,500. about 100 miles. A. can I lease this? if so, what would MF and residual be for 36/15 in 33647. B. any thoughts on a good offer? have a great one! HNY!

    Looks like the 2018 7-Series lease programs are gone.

    No idea pricing. I'd want a huge discount, though. Not sure that 13% would be enough.

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  • edscarsedscars Member Posts: 8
    thank you! went with a different 750i and am very happy.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,066
    edscars said:

    thank you! went with a different 750i and am very happy.

    Congrats!

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  • silfa718silfa718 Member Posts: 8
    What would the rates be for 2018 7's.....would they apply to a B7?
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