Hyundai Santa Fe Lease Questions

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Hi everyone. Please use the following discussion to post any questions that you have about leasing a Hyundai Santa Fe. Thanks.
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Can you please clarify this problem and give me advise on how to make them take care of this under warranty. I know I have a fight on my hands but I need someone with expertise in my corner. Thanks.
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MSRP: $26354
Sale Price: $24,890 ($200 below invoice)
Rate: .00126
Residual: .48
Acquisition Fee: $595
Rebate: $1800 (offered on lease only)
Adjusted Residual: $12,649
Money Down: $1000 (+ first mo. Payment)
Monthly Payment: $367
Terms: 36 mo/ 15K miles/year
Looking for advice, is this a good deal? Seems good to me considering if I buy out at end vehicle cost is still below MSRP. Thanks for any advice provided.
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This may sound crazy but I am trying to avoid having to take out a note right now and want the lower monthlies, but realize I may drive more than the alloted miles given to me. Any suggestions, experiences, or thoughts on how to approach this? How long to take the lease out for, etc..... Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. :confuse:
on 2007 for 36 & 48 months w/ 15K miles per year
- Sante Fe SE AWD: w/ touring and premium packages
- Santa Fe Limited AWD: w/ touring and premium packages
Thanks very much in advance. I am thinking about going to the Hyundai Dealer ship in Manchester NH. AutoFair Hyundai.
Thanks again.
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P.S. If you are trying to avoid entering an auto loan so that it does not show up on your credit report, keep in mind that leases do as well.
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I have begun getting pricing information from a few dealers in the area. They are all quoting 47% residual value, but the actual dollar amount is different. I though residual was calculated on the MSRP and not the selling price, but maybe I am wrong. For Example...If I have a selling price of $29,200 and a 47% residual rate how do I calculate the residual dollar amount? Are there any tricks I need to know about?
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Could someone provide some guideance and/or resources on pros and cons of trading in my car or sellnig it privately and using the cash as down payment. I seem to remember taxes come in to play and depending on the vehicle it may be better trading it in. I live in Canada if that helps with the taxes.
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I believe the residual is based on factors like length of lease and miles alloted per year. The more miles/year you add the lower the residual.
The $1500 lease incentive was not advertised. The internet manager I was dealing with brought it up and factored it in to the deal.
As far as selling/trading car: you'll likely get more $$ if you sell yourself. Not sure if how Canada laws and taxes work with selling a car. One thing to consider is not putting money down on a lease. Yes this will lower your payment, but it is lost money if something happens to the vehicle. If you do the calculations you'll find that you may be better off saving the money you would have used to lower the cap cost and applying it towards your payment each month.
Just my input.
Real world scenario: My Santa Fe is my second lease I've ever done. The 1st was a G35 Coupe. I put about $3K down on the Coupe to get the payments where I wanted them. However, my family expanded and I transferred the lease after a year. So even though I saved $50/mo for that year, the $2400 was basically lost. Same thing if you total it. In a lease, the insurance will only pay what is owed on the car. Even if the value is greater, you don't get the difference.
This time I walked out the door with just the bare minimum out of pocket. Good luck with the process and hope this helps.
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We are looking at trading in our 2005 Santa Fe (3.5L) for a new 2007 Santa Fe Limited (MSRP $27,600). The new Santy is a huge improvement over our current one!
Anyways, I know a Santa Fe is probably not ideal to lease due to its horrible resale value, but I'm hoping the dealer can work some magic or Hyundai comes out with some good incentives.
Does anyone know where Hyundai Financial posts its money factor and residual numbers? I'd like to get this information before going to the dealer again.
We were quoted a $395 lease with $2,500 (or $440/month) down that included $550 refundable deposit, $550 acq. fee, $150 docs, and $1,500 in negative equity. We'll pull the trigger if we can get out the door with $0 down and $400 month, plus out of our 2005 Santa Fe which we still owe $19,100 on. We just don't want to own this car anymore and would rather get a better car for the same monthly payment for 3 years and then start over with nothing.
I see Hyundai has a $1000 rebate along with $500 loyalty cash. So this gives us $1500 off MSRP right away before negotiating.
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Front wheel drive origination support $1,550 + 500 loyalty
30 months money factor is .00111 39 mos .00147 42 mos .00157
Residual 30 mos 57% 39 mos 47% 42 mos 45%
Four wheel drive has the same orig. support
money factors 30 mos .00137 39 mos .00169 42 mos .00178
Residual 30 mos 58% 39 mos 49% 42 mos 47%
Deduct 1% from residual for 15,000 mile leases.
Could someone please help me with the following lease question?
I am currently thinking about leasing an 07 Santa Fe Limited AWD, XM, with the ULTIMATE package.
A local dealer has the MSRP given as $32,450 for this combination, with a negotiated price of around $27,200. At this point, I have not told them of my intent to LEASE. Instead they currently think I would be buying/financing.
First question, is it reasonable to think that as I would be leasing (instead of buying) I could expect them to add the $1,000 "cash back" which I believe they had initially deducted from the total back into the above price... now making it $28,200?
Then, considering that Hyundai offers "$1,500 lease cash back" (assuming that this is still being offered?) that would bring the negotiated price back down to $26,700, in this case. Does that sound about right, or are my above assumptions wrong?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
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Yes, the vehicle is insured with GAP coverage, but the insurance company will only pay whatever the remaining value is... be that $2,000, or $20,000 back to the leasing company if something bad happens to the car.
So, if you put 12K down for a leased car and something happens to it, the insurance will pay whatever value is still owed on the car, but you essentially lose your entire 12K deposit (the insurance company will reimburse the leasing company for the remaining value of the vehicle, but they WILL NOT reimburse you for any down payment monies that you paid up-front.
So you could look at it like this:
Scenario 1: You only put $1,000 down and the car is completely totalled or stolen. Insurance pays the leasing company for the remaining money owed on the vehicle and you would only have lost $1,000 in down deposit money when all's said and done.
Scenario 2: You put $12,000 down in order to get your monthly payments low, and then something bad happens to the car. Now you've just lost an extra $11,000 of your personal money, that you otherwise would not have.
This is why many on this site strongly advise against making and down payment on a lease that is larger than the minimum required (that is, if a down payment is even required, at all).
Hope these were good examples. Others here on this forum understand this topic much better than me, so hopefully if I forgot to mention something or got something wrong they'll pop in and correct me.
Any downpayment you make on a lease is not considered.. or reimbursed.
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I had to edit this because I forgot an important detail. We want a Santa Fe Limited FWD Premium-Silver Blue. They also told him the cargo cover has to be ordered from parts, but I know from reading the forums that this isn't necessarily true.
$455/month times 60 months means total payments of $27,300... and they are asking this for a FWD (not an AWD?) having only the Premium package? That's ridiculous and I'd avoid those dealers like the plague. You should be able to get a much better offer than what they are giving you. There are people here on Edmunds who have purchased (not leased) AWD Limited's with the Ultimate package (a configuration costing several thousand $$ more than what you are looking for) and yet have paid less in the end than what those dealers are asking in total for your lease payments.
I'm just curious, but why would you want to lease for six years when the bumper-to-bumper warranty is only five years? I'm personally thinking about leasing an AWD Limited with the Ultimate Package (MSRP over $32,000) for 3 years and do not expect that I would have to pay any more than $350/month (taxes included) after a $1,500 down-payment. Perhaps the reason that your quoted monthly payments would be so high is because your lease term would be so long?
I believe someone else on this forum recently purchased an AWD Limited with Premium Package for around $25,100. Since that price was for an AWD I hazard to guess the best price you could negotiate for a 2WD of the same would be maybe $24,000.
Now, since the actual MSRP of a 2WD Limited w/Premium is somewhere just shy of around $27,800 and the residual after 30 months is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 58%, that means the residual value would likely be around $16,124 if the above guesses held true.
So now we subtract $16,124 from a possible negotiated price of $24,000 (not the MSRP, from which the residual value was derived) and that means that over the course of 30 months the value of the truck that you could actually be expected to pay could be $7,876, which divided by 30 would be monthly payments of $263 before taxes.
This are just guesses and assumptions, but in any case I'm quite certain that you could probably do a LOT better than $455/month, even without a down-payment.
Does anyone else here agree/disagree? I tried to take my best guess, but other's inputs would certainly be appreciated.
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I used the 30 month .00137 money factor, 58% residual MSRP 26515 (auto SE AWD) and negotiated price of 22926 +/-. Invoice minus $100 minus a $2000 lease rebate the local dealer said is available. using leaseguide.com as a guide I got $319 for 30 months with no down payment and $331 over 39 months.
do those numbers seem real world or comparable to anyone that has recently leased?
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Either way, last week after 3 hours in the dealership I walked away from what had otherwise been an excellent price on an AWD Limited with Ultimate package, as the difference in the Money Factor compared to what I had expected it to be based on what I had read earlier in this thread had added an extra $100/month to the lease payments over 30 months! And all that extra money just in extra interest!
I had driven the vehicle, "loved" the negotiated sales price, and was ready to sign the agreement, but there was no way in hell I was going to pay 8% interest on something I wouldn't even be owning and I can't afford to finance a vehicle that costs this much, even over 6 years.
It really stinks, because I had researched this vehicle for over two years now, long before it had ever been released to the public and I really do LOVE this vehicle. BUT, Hyundai has to offer some MUCH more competitive leasing deals on the SE and Limited if they want my business. As for me, I've now completely given up on getting a Santa Fe and I'm now looking at Honda cars and Nissan SUV's instead, since they generally seem to have much more agreeable leasing specials on a regular basis. I might even try to wait it out until September when the Nissan Rogue gets introduced and see if they have any special introductory leasing deals for it.
What a dissappointment.
In my message I wrote that I am not sure if I want to purchase or lease. My actual intention is to lease – my last three vehicles have all been leases (two Dodge Caravans on 36 month terms and the current Mazda MPV ES on a 48 month term). But everything I have read so far says you shouldn’t reveal your intention to lease *until you have firmly established the purchase price*. If this is no longer correct, I would be interested to hear that.
Dealer one came back with a simple quote: $24,114. This is a "special internet pricing quote" - which expires in 7 days and not valid after months end. I understand this is standard procedure.
Strictly based on the quoted number, that looks pretty good to me.
This site right here shows MSRP at $25,845 Invoice at $24,544 and "what others are paying" at $25,319.
However, the same pricing area of this site here also shows that there is an “Incentive & Rebate” of -$1,000. I’m sure the dealer has factored this in.
What can I expect if I lease?
I am getting the impression that Leasing a Santa Fe is not such a “good deal.” Is this true? Is leasing Santa Fe’s a less-than-optimal approach?
Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.
The dealer who quoted a purchase price of $24,114 now comes back with this lease quote:
Here's a lease quote on the 07 Santa Fe SE AWD, per your requirements.
$461/mo. for 30 months, with 1st payment and DMV out of pocket ($529). Everything else rolled into payments. 12,000 mile per year allowance, $0.20 per mile thereafter.
Yet the dealer who quoted a purchase price of $24,519 (a full $400 more) came back with these numbers for a lease:
A lease on an AWD Santa Fe SE with everything in the payment except 1st month and DMV fees is $434/month
When I asked about different term lengths, this was the follow-up response:
The lease on a Hyundai Santa Fe SE AWD : 48 months 436; 60 months 387. These leases are with all in the payment and only coming up with 1st month and dmv.
My questions:
What is the current money factor out there now? In order to do my own calculations I need that bit of info. Also, what is the residual percentage?
Thanks for any help in this regard.
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is there any way to find out what the current money factor and residual rate is for the 07 Santa Fe SE AWD?
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price: $25,552 (including $670 destination fee)
minus special lease cash of $2,000 (tax calculated before, unfortunately)
money factor: .00286 (6.86%, roughly)
lease term: 42 months
residual (45%) 12,035
monthly payment of $437.73
this is on a Santa Fe SE 4dr AWD w/xm (3.3L 6 cyl). no leather or moonroof. the standard SE model with XM radio.
how does this deal look?
I have enough cash for the purchase, so could anybody shed some light please? Is there any catch in this balloon thing? What do I need to be careful about? I plan to pay it off asap. Just want to get extra rebate.
Thanks a lot!
as for my ongoing negotiations - i've gotten this latest email from another dealer i am currently 'negotiating' with:
Ok. Yesterday the lease programs changed. I will outline them below. Pricing is still the same, the terms have changed.
These quotes are based on sign & drive(1st pmt and dmv out of pocket only).
2007 Hyundai Santa Fe SE AWD
$495 x 24 months
$459 x 36 months
$432 x 48 months
The touring package is approximately $2600.00 more, therefore the pmt would increase by approximately $60.00 per month.
If there is any other information I could provide to you, please dont hesitate to ask. Thank you.
my first question would be - why would a lease program suddenly change on the 16th of the month? this sounds like BS to me. why would he feel compelled to do this?
otherwise, the numbers look similar to the ones given me by the previous dealer. i'll be doing a bit more 'face time' this Saturday with at least one dealer (possibly more) as the emails only go so far.
if anyone knows if there has been a sudden change in the 'lease program', i'd love to hear some confirmation of this.
thanks.
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