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I'm sure it could have made 200,000 miles easy, the oil never dropped a perceptible amount between changes. As for the company, they were great. I lived 40 miles from the dealer and they would come pick up the car, hand me a key to another Lexus, and then return the car when finished. They did this up until the time we sold it 7 years later. A year after we sold it we received a check from them for $200 compensating owners for poor wear from the original tires. (Owners of newer vehicles had complained about poor wear on the OEM Goodyears) They reimbursed us 8 years after buying the car. I'm sure they weren't required to do that!) Sorry for the long post, I just thought that these are things that should be considered when buying a Toyota product.
The Tundra I now own absolutely does not ping ever! I have put in the cheapest, rot-gut gas that I can imagine and it still runs full power without compaint. I have not had one ping since owning it.
The real test is running up a hill with the air-conditioner on. The Tundra does not knock.
Sorry, you will have to leave this discussion. We do not allow honest, sincere, non-bashing posts here. Nor do we allow people who recognize occasional truck flaws as being acceptable. We also will not tolerate those who:
1) admit that one specific brand of 1/2 ton pickup might not be perfect for everyone.
2) appear to be ambivalent about which truck is best under all circumstances.
Please leave.
If you choose to stay, you must:
1) pick a brand and defend it to all ends, beyond reason - never admit your brand has a fault use completely ridiculous comparisons to prove your tenuous arguments. (for example if your enemy argues that a Porsche 911 is a good sportscar, call them an idiot and explain your aunt has a 1972 Chevy Impala that has 278,000 miles, it hauls more blue wigs than a Porsche, it has a tow hitch, it can run on leaded gas, it rides better, and it only cost $9,000).
2) decide whether you are in favor or against unions (if you decide to favor unions, however, you will have to dispose of all the non-american made products you currently posses).
3) decide whether you want to be a yuppy or a farmer (similar problems apply here - you'll need to either grow butter beans or begin practicing medicine or law).
4) continually recycle statements such as, "Motor Trend Truck of the Year"; "Good luck on this one now"; "Less truck, more buck"; or "J.D. Powers Initial Quality Award", etc. Redundancy is a prerequisite for this forum.
5) and most importantly you must be able to insult and attack all those who appear to be contradictory to your stance, racial and ethnic slurs are encouraged.
* slip yoke binding under tourque
* hard starts apparently it takes time to start the engine
* clunk vibration numerous posts on that one
* front end noise bad wheel bearings
* armrest wear at 2500 miles numerous posts on that one to
* defective door latches
* clunk after starting and stopping
* paint chipping off hood numerous on that one to.
* access doors popping open over rough roads thats good for the kids
* brake rotors warped from trailering
* access doors unlocking and opening on highway thats probably the best one
* paint flaws numerous on that one
* back seat way to small numerous on that to,
Good thing they all got half a brain and are doctors and lawyers you may need a docter for your passangers falling out and a lawyer to sue Toyota,
A Proud Big3 Owner.We protect our own.
Slip yoke: take it apart and grease or anti-sieze the hell out of it
Hard starts: that's just how they are and are gonna be, a lot of Toyota vehicles are the same way
Defective door latches: dealer replaces them with new ones, Toyota knows about the problem
Clunk after starting and stopping: this affects people with the ABS brake option, when you start the truck up and go ahead, the ABS system sets itself which is the clunk
Vibrations: a lot of vibrations have been solved by balancing the wheels by using a machine that balances the wheel holding it a different way
Back seats: a lot of Tundra owners have been putting spacers under the back seat to increase the angle, they say it helps alot.
If you want to see the same problems and then worse ones, go on over to www.f150online.com I have never thought Ford trucks had so many problems, but apparently they do! Paint chipping, doors rusting, the famous door cracks, 4.6L piston slap (which requires a new engine), 5.4L head gaskets leaking, bad 5.4L engine blocks (requires new engine) transmission replacements, leaking rear window, leaking roof. Whatever problem you're looking for, you'll find it there. This is the first year for the Tundra so they are bound to have a few bugs, but quite frankly, there aren't many. Wait till next year when they get most of them worked out. They know about a lot of them already.
That ought to get them going. Speaking of beer cans-I'm parched!
http://www.epa.gov/oms/01-nvfel.htm
I got 23 miles to the gallon with my truck on highway after install of superchip,K&N fipk and gibson catback.I have a 99 F250 light duty 4x4 supercab w/5.4 and 3.73LS.My truck is probably a little heavier than a F150 4x4 so that may get a little better gas milage.I also only use 93 octane.
As far as the sticker and msrp,The Toyota and Ford may be close in sticker price But almost everyone knows you can get a Ford at dealer invoice I don't know about the Toyota invoice.
You are correct that Ford has had some problems with some of their engines but they are fixing them and they do make probably 20 to 1 ratio compared to Toyota.Lets see Toyota build 800,000 Tundras and we'll see where they stand.
In 2003 Ford will use the new 3 valve 5.4 with 305 Hp along with a new V6 deisel that cranks out 400 lbs tourque availible for the F150.
Just my observations.
Real men drive the Big 3...because it takes a real man to push it home!
I got these facts from the May '00 issue of Motor
Trend. They did a comparison of "full size"
pickups. They rated the biggest, baddest Chevy
Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 L V8 and the 4.1
gears(which by the way is only rated to tow 8000lbs).
They also rated the biggest F150 with the 5.4L V8
and the Dodge 1500 with 5.9L against the Tundra
Access Cab V8.
You would think that this would be a mismatch.
The Silverado does have that barcolounger rear
seat. The Big3 engines are much bigger.
Here is the conclusion of the Motor Trend article:
"And the winner is... Which to Pick? In terms of
overall performance and sophistication - on road
and off - we have to say Tundra."
Time for this here topic to close.
The BEST never REST!
Why not? Toyota thinks it has a full size 1/2 ton, so lets put the biggest each has to offer and see who beats who. I think anyone with any sense knows that the Tundra would finish dead last in all catagories, even reliability.
Lets compare the Tundra's 4.7L to the Big 3's biggest motors then. The fact is: if any one of the Big 3 have a higher rear end ratio, the Tundra will take it in acceleration. If you gear them down, they will most likely eat up the Tundra, but yet eat up more gas.
Trend. They did a comparison of "full size"
pickups. They rated the biggest, baddest Chevy
Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 L V8 and the 4.1
gears(which by the way is only rated to tow
8000lbs). They also rated the biggest F150 with the 5.4L V8 and the Dodge 1500 with 5.9L against the Tundra Access Cab V8.
You would think that this would be a mismatch.
The Silverado does have that barcolounger rear
seat. The Big3 engines are much bigger.
Here is the conclusion of the Motor Trend article:
"And the winner is... Which to Pick? In terms of
overall performance and sophistication - on road
and off - we have to say Tundra."
Now this sounds like Tundra brought a gun to a gun fight - and won. The Silverado just got its [non-permissible content removed] kicked.
The tundra may or may not be an excellent truck. You won't find out from reading that comparison. It would be great if one of the magazines out there would do a fair comparison. Even consumer reports did the same thing when they picked their trucks. They e-mailed the specs to me when I requested as they didn't print all the specs.