BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

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  • best4best4 Member Posts: 26
    If you have low miles (under a 1000) you could take it to a tire dealer and see if they will do a trade in. The BMW dealer may do the same thing. Good luck. Mine has Bridgestones.
  • robl1robl1 Member Posts: 25
    Last July I bought my first BMW. Purposely avoided waiting for the 2006 so I could get "normal" tires for my 325Xi. Love the car but would think twice about a new one.
  • ek2415ek2415 Member Posts: 2
    2006 325I with Sport Package purchase in July and now has only 9000 miles. The Bridgestone tires are shot and the dealer is telling me it's a known defect with the tires but Bmw will only pick-up half the bill of $1400. I haven't had my first oil change yet but I need to spend almost a $1000 on tires. This is my second Bmw and I love the brand but I won't be buying another one.
  • peachy810peachy810 Member Posts: 4
    I have decided to get a new 325i, but am still concerned about RFT's. What about the tire/wheel warrranty? Does it cover full replacement? Is the price of the warranty negotiable?
  • bjsbmwbjsbmw Member Posts: 1
    In Jan I picked up my new 325ix wagon with pirelli run flats. At 250 miles had a flat tire. Dealer recommended buying a new tire, but I requested plugging it. I'm just waiting to get through this winter - too hard for snow conditions, not great traction but then I'm used to Blizzak. Not willing to buy a new run flat tire - only thing not covered in the warranty...
  • cogescoges Member Posts: 5
    I have a 120i with run flat tyres and no spare. I have had 2 punctures in 12 months. The tyres cannot be repaired. They cost over A$500 each. If you have a puncture, you can drive for 200km at 80kp but in Australia, it is very easy to find yourself over 200 km from a major city and if you get a puncture you can be stranded. Run flats may be safe, but they don’t eliminate the need for a spare tyre.
  • cogescoges Member Posts: 5
    Listen to the voice of experience and buy a Lexus or even a Camry.
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    That's a bit of a steep price to pay just to avoid runflats for me. ;)
  • qwiksilverqwiksilver Member Posts: 3
    Hi all,
    I just turned in my 03 Z4 3.0 and had a very bad experience with BMW. I have had recurring problems with the sidewalls of the Bridgestone Potenza runflats bubbling. I have had all the tires replaced but the same problem. I had to pay $200each for 3 tires. I feel they are a defect of the company and should not be liable for the tires as excess wear and tear as a result of them being defective tires.I belive 03 was the first year they had runflats on BMW's and I dont think they have been perfected yet. I believe you get them from hitting potholes or bumps in the road; I live in Southen California and the roads around my area are by no means bad. Freshly paved most of the time.
    I feel that in this condition the tires were subject to NORMAL wear and tear. I have a friend who just bought a 06 330i sport with the same wheels and one of the is already starting to bubble. Just wanted to get feedback because I was considering a class action suit. :cry: :mad: :sick:
  • jagkid18jagkid18 Member Posts: 2
    I am considering a 330i here in the next few months when I graduate. I'm reserved about the run flats from the posts I have read so far. The video on BMW's website showing the safety value seems to calm my nerves some. The link to that is: http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/2006330isedan/highlightDetail.htm

    Another thought is that if I love the car but not that tires, just put normal tires on there and get an AAA membership for incase I ever do have a flat. The traction issues I have read do not particularly apply to me since there isn't much snow in Houston.
  • dl7265dl7265 Member Posts: 1,381
    Purchased 05/2005. Current mileage 11,000. No problems at all...

    DL
  • robl1robl1 Member Posts: 25
    Current issue of Consumer Reports agrees with most of us here: run flat tires suck (cost a lot and don't last)
    I've put 17,000 miles on my 325Xi with "regular" stock goodyear tires in Northeast driving and the front tires look "new" while the rears just show mild wear. They'll easily go 30 k. I honestly think BMW will lose lots of sales over this.
  • bstimebstime Member Posts: 18
    the run flats forced me out. I have an E46 325xi. its great. lease is up. I want a new car. Run Flats are a deal breaker for me. bad rep for harsh ride, poor treadwear, steep replacement cost and availability issues through bmw dealers (which I would have to use with that spiffy new replacement program for like 500 bucks)

    SO...back goes the E46....in comes a new Audi A4 2.0T quattro. Is it as fun as the bimmer? No. but its close. I think its more fun than the E90 325xi. and no run flats. I just couldn't get the E90 knowing i would need likely 1 or 2 sets of tires at current day cost of 165 each on tirerack.com

    BMW missed the boat. yes we are used to "you should drive it this way, you should do this this way etc because its a german car " but I should use poor riding, poor handling expensive tires that are not fully mature or proven? Nope. cya. I'll be back in a few years once everyone else has paid all the crazy prices.
    :cry::( :mad:
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Member Posts: 292
    You can replace them with regular tires when the run-flats wear out.
  • bstimebstime Member Posts: 18
    true. but I'd have to live through then first and them how do I get my clubs in the trunk when I add a spare and jack? :surprise: I know there are options. your point is well taken. for me, I've decided against it. I told the dealer i would sign right then if they swapped in non-rft's and threw in a space saver spare and jack. Then you get into the "it voids the warranty discussion" and all the BS about the e90 suspension is tuned for the rft's etc etc blah blah blah some of which MIGHT be valid most of which is probably hogwash. I guess in the end for me it was why have to figure a way around it when I am spending that much and driving such an awesome machine...then again BMW gives me an AUX jack in the stereo now and Audi doesn't but i do get a nifty tape deck..which for me is like having a boat anchor without owning a boat ;-) They all have quirks...that's why we buy 'em :shades:
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    I was all set on ordering an ED 330i this upcoming spring, but you guys are scaring me.

    I believe RF's are a safety improvement, but the cost seems quite high considering the general fierceness of the competition.

    dave
  • dl7265dl7265 Member Posts: 1,381
    I don't buy all the crying. Yes Id prefer to have a choice. However, from a financial standpoint look at it this way.

    1. Most OEM tires are a specific model . And are more costly than the in stock tires at your local discount tire. My OEM tires on my former 1999 E46 cost MORE than my current run flats.

    2. In the event of a tire destroying flat ( which Ive never had in all my years of driving) either tire would have to be replaced. If it is a small nail for example on the tread part of the tire, discount tire will repair your flat for FREE regardless of the tire.

    So, in summary I don't see where the monumental cost is that would make someone choose a vehicle they really aren't that enthused about driving.

    DL
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    I'm not sure i understand. I agree that punctures will be free or cheap on a GF. I'm referring to the increased cost and (supposed) detrimental qualities of RF's such as accelerated wear, noise, etc.

    Admittedly, i'll probably end with with a new 3 in any case. I suppose i'm just whining. ;)

    dave
  • dl7265dl7265 Member Posts: 1,381
    Personally, I have the same driving habits as when I owned my e46. I just don't see a big difference. I suspect the majority of the complaints are not from Former Performance car owners , but rather someone comming from a Lex. I can't imagine the ride being more quiet/ complainant from a 45 series rubber...

    Again, I too would have preferred and option,but for what ever reason they did not provide one. :confuse:
    DL
  • rhmassrhmass Member Posts: 263
    DL, as someone who has driven BMW 3 series over the years and currently owns a 330i and 325ixT, I can say the complaints on the RF tires are not primarily from those new owners migrated from other makes. I find the RF tires give the 330i a much stiffer ride, which I don't mind. However I really dislike its tendency to tram significantly when roads are not perfectly smooth. This is the only and first BMW I have ever driven that gives me the sensation I must hold on to the steering wheel tight whenever I was driving on our Rt. 9 in Metro Boston.
    So far I haven't found the noise or track wear problem as others have described. BMW needs to come up with better handling tires, run-flat or not to compliment the superb handling of the new 3 series.!
  • roadsterz4roadsterz4 Member Posts: 12
    My 03 Z4 is approaching 14k miles, it's equipped with Bridgestone Potenza RFT 225/40 on 17" rims. I have no current issues with the tires. They may be a bit loud on concrete surfaces, and I can live with the stiff sidewall as its better than damaging a rim.
    **
    But when it comes time to replacing, I would prefer some options. No room for a spare and jack in the Z4, so I'm stuck with RFT's. I prefer not going through my BMW dealer who is most likely marking up the price 100%, that's a little to salty!! There must be some other high performance RFT's out there ????
  • darsildarsil Member Posts: 1
    In October, 2005, I took delivery of my new 2006 BMW 330XI. My wife drives a 2005 330XI. From the outset, problems with the tires/suspension were obvious. Very skittish handling on wet roads, a horribly rough ride, almost as if the damping ability of the shocks was totally compromised.
    Sometimes, the car would feel like the smallest bumps would be jarring and would create real concern on the part of any passengers - Really!!!

    In short, the run flats were an absolute disaster. After going over a pothole (not a huge one) shortly after I took delivery of the car, I ended up destroying the rim and doing damage to the front cowel. The total damage exceeded $1500. More importantly, the difference in ride quality between my 2005 car (regular tires) and my 2006 car(run flat tires) was night and day.

    So much so that BMW corporate switched out my Bridgestones and gave me a full set of Blizzak run flat snows at no charge. These tires were almost as bad but, the rough ride was slightly better. Subsequently, I was told that the car could be turned in a a new car would be given to me. Nice offer but, so what. I've been wrestling with this proposal but, I would probably just be substituting one problem for another.

    What is really going on here?? I just don't get it .... why take a perfectly performing car and then sabotage its handling and then refuse to own up to the problem??? Shades of Audi refusing to step up to the plate and acknowledge the "unintended acceleration" problem years ago.

    Here we have perhaps the best sports sedan on the market which has been jeopardized because some BEAN COUNTER @ BMW Corporate decided that the company could save (X)amount of dollars on each car by equiping the 3 series cars with four (4) run flat tires instead of FIVE (5) regular tires with rims. Just goes to show you that the CAN'T LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE philosophy is alive and kickin'. Too Bad!!
  • 330xi06330xi06 Member Posts: 2
    Just had a first flat in run flats in my 330xi E90. Tires won't be repaired by BMW service department in most cases. I activated BMW assist. Note: father in law just died day before, advised BMW assist, that didn't matter to them all all. NO dealer had the tire in stock until Monday. Had to wait two days to get the tire. Luckily I had purchased the 5 year tire and wheel warranty when I purchased the E90. The tire alone was $419 or was it $319. I have to pay first and submit it to my road hazzard company. BMW assist had a flat bed load the car up and haul it 40 miles to the dealer who put the tire on Monday morning. I got the flat tire on Friday night. No loaner authorized. No rental reimbursement authorized. :(
  • dereksdereks Member Posts: 1
    After driving both the 330i and now, a 325 XiT, I can offer some observations on different tire/wheel combinations (all RFT)offered on the E90/91.
    Firstly, the 330i with SP and 18" Bridgestone RE050A tires is a firm riding machine; every bump will be transmitted into the cabin. These tires will cause moderate tramlining when the car is driven on rutted or grouved pavement. When I switched over to 17" wheels with Dunlop M3 snows, the improvement in ride was dramatic. So too was the elimiantion of any tramlining.
    Secondly with respect to my present 325 XiT, this car rides well with the standard 17" all-seasons. I tried swapping these tires for Pirelli Euphori@. The car's ride was immediately transformed into a harsh ride with severe tramlining. Now, it's back to ContiProContact SST all season RFT.
    So from my experience with two different cars and four different tire/wheel combinations, I offer you some advice. If you want the ultimate in summer handling, go for the SP in the 330i, but you will get a very firm ride with the Bridgestone RE050A tires. Don't even think of going near snow with these tires - they are for summer only !! If you still want the other benefits of the sport package (better seats, steering wheel, suspension) and a more compliant ride, consider swapping the 18" wheels/tires for a 17" combo.
    For the 325 XiT, I would suggest the sport package, but not the summer performance tires (definitely not the Pirelli Euphori@).
    For those who question the benefits of RFT, it comes down to safety and greater trunk space. There is no doubt that RFT tires will saves lives - you will never lose control if you have a blowout and you will never have to pull over at a dangerous location to change your tire. The added trunk space should be an obvious benefit. For those who travel great distances away from any tire dealer, consider purchasing the BMW mobility kit. This kit has a pump and liquid foam to inject into the tire, so you can continue your journey with the tire at normal pressure.
    If you ever have the opportunity to view BMW's video on run flats v's non-run flats, the demonstarted safety benefits of RFTs will likely convince you of their value. However, it is true that there are very limited RFT choices currently in the market. As I have found, the choice of tire/wheel size for the E90/91 can make a dramatic difference to the feel of car.
  • cogescoges Member Posts: 5
    I've gotten rid of the runflats. Now the car's handling is a real joy and not just OK.
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    I selected my 06 330I off the 1st boat load to the east coast. (They had it for me in 2 days.). May 2, 05. Turanza EL42 RFT. I wasn’t aware it had RFT’s. I drove it home about 40 miles on new roads, spending the time getting aquainted with all the new buttons and instruments. (not the tires). I left my 2002 330I (with 45K miles) at the dealer for a oil and service as I would be giving it to my son the next day.

    The next day I began to drive the 06 through different roads and I immediately noticed a rougher ride and the feel of every bump, stone, hole, expansion joint and different road surface materials through the steering wheel and my audio sensors (ears). I immediately took it back to the dealer thinking the suspension and tires were defective and out of adjustment. I was informed that it was equipped with RFT’s. I immediately told the manager to replace the tires with the same type I had on the 2002. I was informed there was no option, could not be replaced, would void warranty etc. I was requested to give it a week or two and see if I would acclimate to the RFT’s. I was also informed it was the latest technology and all manufactures would eventually go this route.

    After driving it for two weeks (I Loved every other aspect of the car), It seemed to fade away, ( I adjusted to the RFT) and other than expansion joints on some poor concrete pavement it felt like I was driving a super 3 series.

    I rotated and balanced the wheels at 6K and 12 K miles. At about 15K I started to hear various noises at different speeds, and a growling sound when breaking between 40 - 0 miles per. I wasn’t sure if it was tires or wheel bearings. I took it to a local tire dealer who did my rotating and balance. He informed me the front tires were wearing on the outside and had some cupping. Rear had some cupping also. I checked the air cold every month. Inflation was proper. I have a choice to make. Do I replace the tires now with RFT‘s, or do I drive them another 7K noisy miles (expected tread left), or do I find a non RFT solution. I plan on going to the BMW regional service contact and request a new set of “FREE” rubber.

    As a long time BMW owner I can only say some German “Bean Counter” really shafted us. I love the car but I do see a new set of tires every 15K miles in addition of any flats replacements. I do not have a sport package so I would have expect to get 30K.
  • dl7265dl7265 Member Posts: 1,381
    I have the same wheel/tire set. At 11k no problems. Usually as you know wear on outside would indicate under inflation ? What are you adjusting the tire pressure too ?

    DL
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    The sticker in my door frame states 100 MPH or less inflate 26 front 31 rear (Lbs.)
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    26-31 my error. I have been using the 100MPH or below Tire Pressure of 29 Front & 36 Rear as listed on my yellow door sticker, -- Owner6
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    I have been using the 100MPH or below Tire Pressure of 29 Front & 36 Rear as listed on my yellow door sticker. The inside edges and center are wearing ok (I am not makinmg high speed turns on freeway enter/exits). I am driving the same as with my 2002 330I. I tried the high speed pressure once and the ride was rough, like the tires were made of rock.-- Owner6
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    What did you replace them with? Can you use the original wheels? Details please.
  • epbronwepbronw Member Posts: 5
    Ditto. I've got a Z4 and the ride with the run-flats was much too jittery. I bought some Pirelli P-Zeros and 18" rims for the Z4 and I'll never look back. Truth is, the suspension on the Z4 just isn't properly tuned for the run-flats and BMW won't admit it. I've heard they did a much better job with the 2006 models of the Z4. For now, I've got a BMW Mobility Kit in case of flats, and I'm hoping for the best.
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    I talked to my Sales person and the Dealer Service Manager today. The will be contacting the regional service arbarator and present my request for a new set of RFT's. Ill see where it goes from here.
  • osc1marosc1mar Member Posts: 1
    I've got a 2006 330i with Bridgestone RFTs. What did you replace your RFTs with?
  • natalie02lenatalie02le Member Posts: 19
    sorry for the delay in replying to rhmass #73, but you explain exactly the same dislike i have. i don't know the word "tram", but it sounds like exactly what i experience. over uneven surfaces, specifically multiple layers of pavement in the process of repair or replacement, which happens alot during road construction that i commute thru every day, the "tramming" is horrible. it's like i am behind the wheel of a 1986 buick skylark. the tires just go wherever the seams in the road takes them. i dislike my 2006 330i not for harsh ride, not for tire wear, not for tire replacement expense, not for anything other than the tramming. and i dislike it a lot. my belief/hunch is this is not a bridgestone el42/pirelli eufori issue, this is a run flat issue - those stiff sidewalls cause this and i can't stand it.
  • chief009chief009 Member Posts: 3
    Greetings all, I was out Saturday afternoon and ended up with a flat tire (RFT). It was late in the day so it was impossible to get into a BMW center for replacement. Went this morning and I got a pretty nasty surprise, to the tune of $464 for ONE RFT. I asked the service advisor about the high price and he told me that BMW marks up their tires. I just went to TIRERACK and they have them for $183!!!! I feel ROBBED! I will now purchase a spare RFT and keep it home just in case. IMO, BMW needs to rethink this RFT thing.
  • rhmassrhmass Member Posts: 263
    First, let me apologize the use of the word "tram", it should have been "tramline" to describe the phenomenon we have experienced with these tires on uneven pavement.
    Being a BMW loyalist for many years and now own three BMWs in the family, this is the first time I am thinking about switching to another brand when time to replace our older one.
    The primary reason for these tires no longer even exist in my view. Like some posters mentioned, you can't often find replacement tires even you can drive to a tire store or dealer. If they do (BMW dealers), you have to pay such exorbitant price for the replacement. One simply doesn't have the sense of security and safety these tires are supposed to offer. I don't know if this is a profit item for dealers, since all maintenance work is free for the first 4 years. Of course BMW has also changed and extended the maintenance requirements on most items. For instance, air filter is to be replaced every 60,000 miles and I know I won't get the free replacement in four years!
    Well, I'll have to see how things develope in a couple of years. What I can say is that had I known about these RFTs six months ago, I would have chosen another brand of cars in place of my 2006 330i. Many competitions are getting really close to BMW's performance and the problems with these tires could just be the tie breaker IMO.
  • 52mpg52mpg Member Posts: 3
    Anyone out there who has brought a brand new car back to the dealer Immediately (next morning) because they were concerned about handling issues? (knew nothing of this issue until now, Brought the car back and dropped it off after a 60 mile maiden voyage. I thought that the tow/alignment had to be way off) I could not believe the poor performance overall from these tires. I would never have suspected that there would be a forum that had been addressing the issue for months prior to my purchase... The car was bought new 03/25/2006 from Bobby Rahal Bmw w/ the bridgestones. I just happened to hit google to see if there had been any other handling complaints and here we are... I am not happy. I think that BMW should come out and go public on this matter and do it now. How in the living hell can you with good conscience, advertise a killer lease on a reasonably high end sport sedan (price point) and follow it up with an annual tire bill that is more indicative of a club racer/boxer cup car. I had no idea about any issues with ANY of the cars I had concidered (c-class, r-class, 3-5bmw) I have been driving anything and everything in the attainable performance world on the street for 3 decades. I needed a good handling awd car for a northern application from time to time that would also spend alot of time in Florida. By all accounts these tires fall well short of my intended/expected use/needs. They are sketchy, unpredictable, and I feel like I could trust em' about as far as I could throw them while seated. I have been a faithful owner but my last bmw car was 46 M5. I EXPECTED my new Beeemr to be current and safe as usual. My question is simple. Given the info here that makes it pretty clear there are no factory supported alternatives, is there anyone else who has considered letting BMW keep their otherwise perfect little gem even after being contracted on the lease? Any help with real, first hand experience will be appreciated. Seems queer that I have a new BMW sitting at the dealer for any reason other than a performance enhancement. Just not happy....
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Member Posts: 292
    Did they have different tires on it for the test drive? Just curious - that would be really shocking if they did.
  • 52mpg52mpg Member Posts: 3
    As STUPID as it sounds, I did nothing but drive it down to the next intersection and pull a U-turn back to the dealer. All I was looking for was a gross issue with THAT car, Strange engine sounds, odd shifting trans, etc. I was more interested in the sound system at that point than I was anything else. Less than a 1 mile ride. As I said earlier, I EXPECTED the same contemporary level of safety, performance, and engineering as was delivered abound in several past new BMW purchases.
  • ilcgwbtilcgwbt Member Posts: 7
    Hello,

    With so many positive car reviews for the E90, why don't
    any of them mention any issues with the tires?

    The E90 consistently gets very positive reviews for ride and
    handling but I don't think I've come across a review that
    mentioned any issues with these run flat tires?

    Thoughts?
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    I drove the test car more than Mr."52mpg" did. I put it on US-113 in Milford Delaware, drove slow, fast, stopping, starting, through the gears, on and off ramps under great stress, than i placed it on farm roads with twists and curves, and through the center of town. I never noticed the tires being a problem. However the Dupont Family owns the State and all the roads I drove were Meticulously paved. I dont know what kind of tires or air pressure was on the test car.
  • 52mpg52mpg Member Posts: 3
    Hit a google search with the words "bmw run flat tire problems".....
  • clackclack Member Posts: 2
    It is curious to me that a performance auto company such as BMW would "hoodwink" its loyal following by offering such crap as RFT's. First, RFTs are notably poorer performers than standard tires. Second, RFTs develop flat spots after sitting for only a short period. Third, RFTs are not designed to be reuseable after a "flat" experience and one has driven over 45 mph on them..they have been compromised. Third, they are inferior in all major handling respects to top line standard tires. It must come down to pure economics for the COMPANY vs the consumer. I don't get it. We have owned eight BMW's over the years starting with a wonderful 1983-733i, working through 525's and 540's and currently have a 325i ('05) and 330ci. The thing that bonded all the cars we have owned together is: driving pleasure, conservative engineering/overengineering and conservative styling. We are responsible drivers who like the feel of good engineering. BMW seems to have abandoned these philosophies to some extent. I used to tell my friends that BMW was the best engineered, mass-produced car money could buy. I now hestiate to do so. RFT's are simply another indicator that the bean counters are winning the battle with the engineers. It's a real shame.
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    Coges, can you please inform us what tires you replaced them with? did you use the same wheels? Do you have the sport package. I dont. Please send me a response. I need to replace mine.
  • bryncerddbryncerdd Member Posts: 29
    It seems to me message #99 describes the fundamental problem with RFTs on the BMW. A review of postings on this message board will turn up only one post which has anything positive to say about these tires. And that referrred to the "advertised" safety element, which I believe to be very much a matter of opinion. There are the problems with handling, expense, and availability, all of which are significant. Beyond that, the company chooses to ignore that, because of availability, even with run-flat tires installed, one still needs a spare to replace a flat, considering the generally accepted premise that a run-flat is "compromised" after it has been driven in a run-flat condition. As an owner of BMW autos intermittently for more than thirty years, I wail--"What was BMW thinking?! :-(

    Bryncerdd
  • flbmwflbmw Member Posts: 6
    That price seems high, even from a BMW dealer but I do believe it. BMW offers an optional insurance policy that is called "Road Hazard Insurance". It costs $500 for 3 years of (full replacement) coverage, I believe, but its a good option since from what I'm reading these tires are not very reliable. You might still be able to get it even as an after-sale add on.
  • rhmassrhmass Member Posts: 263
    The insurance you referred to is by third party but sold by BMW dealers. Prices for the coverage vary. This is an additional profit item for the dealer.
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    I will be needing to replace these RFT's soon.
    The BMW dealer gave me a printed quote $360. each X 4 = $1,452.00 Installed for Turanza EL42. no tax in Delaware. Or Pirelle Euforio 270 X 4 = $1,080.00.

    My local Easton MD tire dealer gave me a quote for EL42's installed $978.20. Saving $473.80 over BMW dealer.

    When I replace the tires I will be keeping several for spares.

    Owner6
  • owner6owner6 Member Posts: 89
    COGES,
    If your still alive please answer this one #86 message. Or anyone else that has replaced EL42 with non RFT's.

    Owner6
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