I hear a lot of talk about the Acadia/Outlook fuel economy, but I have not seen any actual numbers being posted. I get the feeling that most folks are referring to the EPA estimates. I might have missed earlier posts, because I have not looked at all 1800 of them.
I am understandably curious if they can even come close to the EPA estimates. Can we start a thread of MPG estimates?
I've been getting about 16.5 - 17 MPG around town in normal suburban area driving (lots of lights and I have a heavy foot). On the one extended highway trip I took when the car was new, I got 25.5 MPG according to the trip computer.
Not as good as the Toyota Sienna I traded in which I got 18 - 19 MPG around town and about 28 on the road, but not horrible either.
Not horrible indeed. I've been concerned that it would be a disappointment. My wife really wants one of these later this year. Getting 25 MPG on the highway would exceed my cynical expectations. The city MPG will be what it will be. She has a bit of a heavy foot, too; heavier than mine.
The idea of having a nice quite car is defintely a nice idea, but I have to wonder how much it will cost to replace the windshield once the gravel from our canadian northern roads gets a hold of it. Or would the deductible that I pay on regular windshields apply to this one as well...any thoughts?
I was offered invoice pricing to start. Plus $1000 conquest, $500 marketing support, plus $500 President sale bonus. At total of $2k under Dealer Cost any Acadia to choose from. This sounded like a great deal. I found the dealer in Parsippany NJ.
I did not take it, because I do not like the financing rates of 6.99 for 60 mths. Anyone have any idea if they will come down?
Having just purchased one, I'd be interested in hearing what you have about price erosion, or links to the discussions. I purchased a fairly loaded SLT2 (no NAV or DVD, but pretty much everything else) for $36.5 (MSRP was $38). The dealer held pretty firm on invoice + $500 pricewise, but I had $3,500 in other incentive available so out-the-door it was $33K. Certainly not a bad deal, but I was tempted to wait until year end to see what the price and incentives would be then (the 0.0% financing and other incentives, some of which expire soon, got me in the door now).
Given the reviews, I'd be surprised if they are not selling well. But, I can see why people would wait - I think GM and/or the dealership network really screwed the pooch on the what they stocked initially - most are white (not a very popular color), and come w/ very strange option packages (or are base SLEs w/ no options, or loaded SLT2 that push into the upper price range where there are many more vehicles to consider for the price).
Those seem to be sitting on the dealer lots - the blacks, reds, and silver SLT1's that I've been looking at seem to be moving (I know, as two were sold out from under me).
Lately I have seen pretty well equiped Yukons/Tahoes advertised for less than $30K, even Suburbans for around $30K. These MSRP for $36K-$38K...have not really compared the features to the Acadias to see how they compare. So, until transaction prices come down, you could possibly get more for your money with the truck based models. I really like the Acadia/Outlooks better, but except for the difference in gas mileage, there is not a tremendous difference in utility. I was actually thinking I would go with one of them when its time to replace my Trooper...don't want to go to a smaller, more confining ride. So, 6-12 months is probably the earliest I might try and do something, and maybe the pricing will have moderated by then.
There are some other forums on the net where people claim to be getting invoice pricing from the dealer (then subtract factory incentives) for a below invoice deal. It is my understanding that you have to really shop hard to get these deals!
Thought I would mention here that the first Outlook we drove was a FWD XE with standard 18-inch wheels/tires. We were very impressed with the smooth and quiet ride. Drove a FWD XR with optional 19-inch wheels/tires. Ride and noise were significantly impacted; noticeable noise and coarser ride. The 18's were Goodyear Fortera HL and the 19's were Goodyear Eagle RSA. This explains alot, as the RSA's are pretty well know as not the greatest tire around. The Fortera is actually a light-truck tire and would be much better in snow/ice (see tirerack ratings). Just thought I would mention this for those monitoring these posts...
Not been produced since the beginning of 2007. Last I read they were up 25% retail but not sure of the month. Overall doing well but I think they have a pretty good incentive on them to clear them out before the Enclave is here.
Yes, they have quite large rebates on them to help rid the lots, and for the short last year got cut down in a few things as well, such as being FWD and 3.5L V6 only.
The Enclave is SO different, it'll be interesting to see what happens when it shows up--likely more popular in the first place, and should probably garner a lot of older Rendezvous trades.
GM recalls Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia for faulty airbag sensors. Filed under: Recalls/TSBs, Crossovers/CUVs, GM, GMC, Saturn
The KickingTires blog at Cars.com is reporting GM has recalled its new 2007 Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia full-size CUVs for potentially faulty airbag sensors. Every single unit sold since they went on sale in December is affected by the recall. :sick: Letters went out yesterday to owners of the Saturn Outlook and will be sent on February 28th for GMC Acadia owners.
Three months into production. Way to go GM :shades:
sensors no doubt made by some foreign company. Come on do you really think it is GM's fault? Like they wanted to do this on purpose. At least they stepped up to the plate. They could be like Toyota and hide the facts for many years until the Japanissee government finds out and throws the big shots in jail.
GM has recalled its new 2007 Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia full-size CUVs for potentially faulty airbag sensors. The problem is reportedly software related, meaning it can be fixed with a trip to the dealer and a quick patch, but every single unit sold since they went on sale in December is affected by the recall. Letters went out yesterday to owners of the Saturn Outlook and will be sent on February 28th for GMC Acadia owners.
This is not a recall mandated by the NHTSA, but rather one initiated by GM itself after the problem was discovered internally. The potentialy faulty sensor in question controls the front airbags' deployment. While this potentially faulty sensor in the Outlook and Acadia could cause injury, GM apparently caught it quickly and the fix should be cheap, easy and fast for them to apply to every vehicle affected by the recall
At least they are correcting it before problems happen, like sludging or transmission problems. I can't believe the idiots who think Toyota is such a great company. All I can say is they did a good job of brainwashing. :shades: :P
I own a 1998 Explorer EB; it has been a very reliable car. I test drove a 2007 EB & was shocked to find, IMO, how much plastic was now used in the interior. What a disappointment. The brakes also seemed "soft" and not responsive, considering the size of car. To a person, I've been advised not to buy another Ford--that my experience with reliability was a fluke.
I know some have commented on the interior of the Pilot, but I thought it was far superior to the EB; however, perhaps because I have driven a Ford for so long, I felt like the Pilot's nose was sticking out in traffic. I don't need the 3rd row seating; I primarily use the SUV to cart my dogs around to dog shows and events, so I not only need cargo room, but I also want to ride in comfort. I don't want a mini-van. That much I know. I didn't like the way the Pilot's metal buckles from the seat belts hung from the roof--I am thinking that my dog crates will be rubbing up against them, causing problems.
Test drove the Acadia and I thought it drove very nicely; did notice a bit of drag in pick up, I guess due to the weight of the vehicle. I didn't think the interior was that nice--although I thought it was nicer than the EB, but I wasn't blown away by it. I did like all the space, especially with the third row down, but I'm not quite 5'1" and it is not an easy vehicle to get in and out of without running boards, which I'm surprised that you can't get as a dealer add-on.
I've looked at the specs on more luxurious SUV's--my current EB has 42.6 cu. ft of cargo space with the 2nd row up; unless an SUV can provide that, or better, I'm not interested (MDX--out). I also know I want a V6--I prefer the gas mileage more.
I love the photos of the Enclave and it looks like the interior is of a better quality. Should I just wait to see what that brings? One of the local Buick dealers said the Enclaves won't be in until late Spring.
They could be like Toyota and hide the facts for many years until the Japanese government finds out and throws the big shots in jail Great idea dmathews3. The US government SHOULD hold the big shots of all three car manufactures responsible for the crap they have been producing. I purchased my first new GM vehicle in July of 1957 ( 57 Chevy ) and my LAST new GM Vehicle in September 2001 ( 2001 Buick ) . I purchased a new GM vehicle every four to five years for that span of 44 years. The last two however were the worst vehicles imaginable, and the attitude of GM was even more unsettling then the vehicles. I purchased a 2006 Toyota in June. Every thing works like it should no rattles, squeaks or recalls. The radio plays in English and my golf clubs fit in the trunk. Life is good :shades:
Can we get the Toyota lovers/GM haters off this forum? Lets please talk about the vehicles in the title. Attributes and data and opinions please. Not how good their other car is and no one should buy the one this discussion is about. Perhaps if there were some issued on the Lamdas we could discuss them intelligently.
Can we get the Toyota lovers/GM haters off this forum? There's nothing wrong with people whoa hate GM giving their oppinion on the Lambdas. But if you guys want to compare, you should go to the Acadia comparison forum. It's not as boring.
The below comment has nothing to do with Lamdas and it what I was referring to. Why would anybody post this here???
The US government SHOULD hold the big shots of all three car manufactures responsible for the crap they have been producing. I purchased my first new GM vehicle in July of 1957 ( 57 Chevy ) and my LAST new GM Vehicle in September 2001 ( 2001 Buick ) . I purchased a new GM vehicle every four to five years for that span of 44 years. The last two however were the worst vehicles imaginable, and the attitude of GM was even more unsettling then the vehicles. I purchased a 2006 Toyota in June. Every thing works like it should no rattles, squeaks or recalls. The radio plays in English and my golf clubs fit in the trunk. Life is good
I purchased a 2006 Toyota in June. Every thing works like it should no rattles, squeaks or recalls. The radio plays in English and my golf clubs fit in the trunk. Life is good Glad your radio plays in english now why not go over to the toyota camray, or prius boards and tell them how great your toilet is, I mean Toyota and let them give you a trashing as there aren't very many there who agree with you. :lemon: :shades: :P :P
It's really unbelievable that nothing has really changed since 3 months ago, when I was a regular on this forum for 5-6 months. 62vetteefp, you've been a real stallwart for this group and have been the primary voice of sanity here. At times I felt you could have been more direct...but pulled back for the sake of a stablizing force here.
I've been a real Lambda believer...If you and some of the others recall. I tried various tactics to maneauver some of our Ford and other zealots to please let the forum follow a natural course and allow GM a fare chance to come back and re-establish it's self respect as one, if not the leading manufaturers in the industry. But these pleads and attempts to keep this forum in focus and on tract fell on deaf ears. It was as though these people were 'shills' for other Auto Firms, disguised as potential auto buffs checking out the Lambdas. Of course they could have just been meatheads that lost an understanding what the forum's original intent was.
I did go another direction, but I'm not going to pound my chest subtley or boastfully what a great choice I made nor the positives my vehicle has over a Lambda. The past M O of some characters were to mention 2 good things about the Lambda and then follow up with a strong negative or a heavy cut at Lambda, followed by 2 lite positive remarks to cover the real intent. It's all so unnecessary and Myopian. Good luck and hope this forum gets some quality growth and GM has success with it's new product.
Does anyone know of a status update on the rear center console in the Enclave. I read that it was "delayed" and will not be available for a while. How will they equip the Enclaves that have rear captains chairs? just leave a void in between the chairs? It seems that since Buick has so much lead time until Enclave production starts in April, there is plenty of time to manufacture these consoles.
Test drove the Saturn Outlook yesterday... same lambda basic unit, seemingly same fake wood and leather interior, same v6, but different, more straight-forward, less sexy sheet metal than the Enclave photos portend. In the Outlook there is just a void between the 2nd row captain chairs (in the XR version with the Premium Trim and captain chair pkgs)... I don't like it, but no center console is available as promised with the Enclave. Such a console would seem to be an easy pop-in. My 14 year old thinks the void is nice because it facilitates access to the third seat and/or cargo. Overall, the Outlook handled very nicely. Very much like a car. As good or better handling than my Honda Pilot. Certainly not a boat. Nice power, too... although not overly powerful and will probably get enthusiasts' harsh critiques... I was pleasantly impressed. The Aura seems like a nice sedan, too. Maybe there's hope for GM...? I am not a big GM, Ford or Chrysler fan... got screwed in the 70s with American car companies... so, in the last 27 years have only bought Honda, Acura and Toyota. Never a regret. Seriously considering the Outlook, though I'd like to get the sexier looking Buick Enclave, if it can make it to market in the next month or so. Local Buick dealer says probably April or May delivery. BTW Saturn is offering 0 percent, 36 month financing through FEB 28 and $1000 cash rebate (if your not driving a GM)...
Firstly, I'm a competition BBQ cook who has spent the last 10 years pulling the back 2 seat out of my basic/basic 1996 4 cyl dodge caravan with roll up windows to pack in all the equip/tables/tents/chests/accessories/etc/etc like a sardine can in that 146 Cu ft. cargo area. Then when I saw the 'Outlook', with 80% the cargo area of the van, I said that was the vehicle for me!!! I could have a roof rack on and a hitch carrier behind and I might even have a bit more cargo carrying capacity over all, not to mention reasonable fuel economy and moderate pricing.
2ndly I went to the L.A. Auto Show and charged straight to the Saturn exhibit. It was everything I had hoped for and more. The back seats folded to make a nice cargo area as I wasn't looking for a people hauling. As I looked at the vehicle as a whole(there an hour)I decided...It was too damn nice and that in 3 to 5 years it wasn't going to look like anything like it did today with my greasy dirty hobby.
3rdly, decided if I went with an extended cab pickup with a shell that I could keep the cabin area quite nice and also not fret about a cabin/cargo combination(Lambda), though a truck wasn't in my plans. So I went with an 06' Tundra V6 extended Access cab SR5 and put the top of the line Leer shell all for $21,000(truck 19k)OTD thanx to internet sales/purchasing(it's the only way to go)... then a month later bought my wifes 07 LE Camry 19k OTD with this method. Take care and good luck.
I took my Acadia in today for the airbag sensor recall and the dealer's service manager said there was a second recall on the Acadia. But he really didn't seem to know what is was. The description from my paperwork says "AIR INLET PANEL TO WINDSHIELD GAP, RECALL 07008". Does anyone know what this is? The dealer service manager said that he had to order a part (11570645-Retainer) in order to do the work...so I'll have to take it back when the part comes in.
The air inlet panel is the forward panel against the windshield on the upper IP. This has the vents that allow the defroster air to hit the windshield.
I could not find anything using google and doubt it is a safety recall because it is so far away from the upper air bag and the passenger but I could be wrong. This is most likely a minor quality issue which GM will catch as cars come in for service that is not worth GM's or the owners time/money to send out notices.
While I have not seen the Acadia panel they are a bugger in all cars to get to stay down and a lot of development work is done to keep it secured and keep proper gaps around the part. Most likely the retainer(clip) will better secure or revise the location of the panel so that gaps are better. Even if yours looked OK others may have let loose and you get a wavy look.
Yeah, I didn't think it was a safety recall...just didn't know what might be wrong or what panel they were referring to. Thanks for the great explanation. I'll check it out now to see if it's loose. Thanks again.
I have been reading the posts about the Acadia-Outlook and finally went to see both at the Cleveland auto show this past week. My wife has an RX 330, the lease is up in June and we are looking for a replacement. We have truly enjoyed the Lexus, but want something a bit larger, so I was looking forward to seeing possible options at the auto show. I found the Acadia to be a great size, will fit all luggage and golf clubs for summer driving vacations. But what really surprised me was the uncomfortable seating in the second row. I thought the seat was exceptionally low. It felt like my knees were at "chin level". For comparison, we looked at the Cadillac SRX, a supposedly smaller vehicle that had a much more comfortable back seat. The back seat in our RX 330 is much, much more comfortable and roomy than in the Acadia. I don't know if others would agree with my back seat assessment, but the back seat issue is a deal killer for me. Very surprising and disapointing.
Did not notice that, but it has been several months since I sat in one and it was the bucket seats in the 2nd row. Did you check out the Acura MDX and the Mazda CX-9 both those are bigger then the RX. The 2nd row seats I sat in the MDX are like front seats very comfortable...I never got a chance to sit in the CX-9 though.
We did check out the MDX and CX9. My wife liked the MDX and it was fairly comfortable. She did not like the CX9, thought the center console intruded into the leg room space for the driver a bit too much. She did like the SRX and the new Audi SUV, but the Audi may be a bit too pricey.
I noticed the same thing at the Chicago Auto show. Having previously driven an SRX at a Cadillac ride-drive event last summer, I knew the back seat was very comfortable. While for me the difference in back seat height is not a deal-breaker, I agree the SRX is more comfortable than the Acadia/Outlook. It will likely be a difficult decision this fall when our lease is up on our Ranier, whether to replace it with an Enclave or SRX. Most things about the Enclave I prefer, but the seating thing may push it the other way, especially when my wife has her say.
One thing you may want to check on the SRX is the somewhat large distance from the outside edge of the front seat to the edge of the body when the door's open - I've heard it's a good way to get your leg dirty after a rain, especially if legs are short.
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I am understandably curious if they can even come close to the EPA estimates. Can we start a thread of MPG estimates?
Thanks.
Not as good as the Toyota Sienna I traded in which I got 18 - 19 MPG around town and about 28 on the road, but not horrible either.
Right now I have 1600 miles on my Acadia.
Thanks.
Good Luck
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I was offered invoice pricing to start. Plus $1000 conquest, $500 marketing support, plus $500 President sale bonus. At total of $2k under Dealer Cost any Acadia to choose from. This sounded like a great deal. I found the dealer in Parsippany NJ.
I did not take it, because I do not like the financing rates of 6.99 for 60 mths. Anyone have any idea if they will come down?
-Skee
According to our friends from other forums, there seems to be some downward price pressure on the GMC.
Anyone?
Given the reviews, I'd be surprised if they are not selling well. But, I can see why people would wait - I think GM and/or the dealership network really screwed the pooch on the what they stocked initially - most are white (not a very popular color), and come w/ very strange option packages (or are base SLEs w/ no options, or loaded SLT2 that push into the upper price range where there are many more vehicles to consider for the price).
Those seem to be sitting on the dealer lots - the blacks, reds, and silver SLT1's that I've been looking at seem to be moving (I know, as two were sold out from under me).
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The Enclave is SO different, it'll be interesting to see what happens when it shows up--likely more popular in the first place, and should probably garner a lot of older Rendezvous trades.
The KickingTires blog at Cars.com is reporting GM has recalled its new 2007 Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia full-size CUVs for potentially faulty airbag sensors. Every single unit sold since they went on sale in December is affected by the recall. :sick: Letters went out yesterday to owners of the Saturn Outlook and will be sent on February 28th for GMC Acadia owners.
Three months into production. Way to go GM :shades:
Looks like NHTSA has not forced the recall but GM is doing it on it's own. Good action on GM's part. Quick response and no government recall.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/23/gm-recalls-saturn-outlook-and-gmc-acadia-for-- faulty-airbag-senso/
GM has recalled its new 2007 Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia full-size CUVs for potentially faulty airbag sensors. The problem is reportedly software related, meaning it can be fixed with a trip to the dealer and a quick patch, but every single unit sold since they went on sale in December is affected by the recall. Letters went out yesterday to owners of the Saturn Outlook and will be sent on February 28th for GMC Acadia owners.
This is not a recall mandated by the NHTSA, but rather one initiated by GM itself after the problem was discovered internally. The potentialy faulty sensor in question controls the front airbags' deployment. While this potentially faulty sensor in the Outlook and Acadia could cause injury, GM apparently caught it quickly and the fix should be cheap, easy and fast for them to apply to every vehicle affected by the recall
Uh Yes. :P Who should we blame those sinister foreign company's like Toyota? :shades:
Actually they're trying to catch up to Toyota's recall number for the year so they won't feel as bad!!! .grin.
At least they are correcting it before problems happen, like sludging or transmission problems.
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I can't believe the idiots who think Toyota is such a great company. All I can say is they did a good job of brainwashing. :shades: :P
I know some have commented on the interior of the Pilot, but I thought it was far superior to the EB; however, perhaps because I have driven a Ford for so long, I felt like the Pilot's nose was sticking out in traffic. I don't need the 3rd row seating; I primarily use the SUV to cart my dogs around to dog shows and events, so I not only need cargo room, but I also want to ride in comfort. I don't want a mini-van. That much I know. I didn't like the way the Pilot's metal buckles from the seat belts hung from the roof--I am thinking that my dog crates will be rubbing up against them, causing problems.
Test drove the Acadia and I thought it drove very nicely; did notice a bit of drag in pick up, I guess due to the weight of the vehicle. I didn't think the interior was that nice--although I thought it was nicer than the EB, but I wasn't blown away by it. I did like all the space, especially with the third row down, but I'm not quite 5'1" and it is not an easy vehicle to get in and out of without running boards, which I'm surprised that you can't get as a dealer add-on.
I've looked at the specs on more luxurious SUV's--my current EB has 42.6 cu. ft of cargo space with the 2nd row up; unless an SUV can provide that, or better, I'm not interested (MDX--out). I also know I want a V6--I prefer the gas mileage more.
I love the photos of the Enclave and it looks like the interior is of a better quality. Should I just wait to see what that brings? One of the local Buick dealers said the Enclaves won't be in until late Spring.
Great idea dmathews3. The US government SHOULD hold the big shots of all three car manufactures responsible for the crap they have been producing. I purchased my first new GM vehicle in July of 1957 ( 57 Chevy ) and my LAST new GM Vehicle in September 2001 ( 2001 Buick ) . I purchased a new GM vehicle every four to five years for that span of
44 years. The last two however were the worst vehicles imaginable, and the attitude of GM was even more unsettling then the vehicles. I purchased a 2006 Toyota in June. Every thing works like it should no rattles, squeaks or recalls. The radio plays in English and my golf clubs fit in the trunk. Life is good :shades:
I have a 98 Buick and 03 Buick, first with 150 K miles. Great Cars. I was marveling last night the 1998 doesn't even have any rattles or squeaks.
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Back on topic...Outlook, Acadia, Enclave...
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There's nothing wrong with people whoa hate GM giving their oppinion on the Lambdas.
But if you guys want to compare, you should go to the Acadia comparison forum. It's not as boring.
The US government SHOULD hold the big shots of all three car manufactures responsible for the crap they have been producing. I purchased my first new GM vehicle in July of 1957 ( 57 Chevy ) and my LAST new GM Vehicle in September 2001 ( 2001 Buick ) . I purchased a new GM vehicle every four to five years for that span of
44 years. The last two however were the worst vehicles imaginable, and the attitude of GM was even more unsettling then the vehicles. I purchased a 2006 Toyota in June. Every thing works like it should no rattles, squeaks or recalls. The radio plays in English and my golf clubs fit in the trunk. Life is good
Glad your radio plays in english now why not go over to the toyota camray, or prius boards and tell them how great your toilet is, I mean Toyota and let them give you a trashing as there aren't very many there who agree with you. :lemon: :shades: :P :P
since 3 months ago, when I was a regular on this forum for
5-6 months. 62vetteefp, you've been a real stallwart for this group and have been the primary voice of sanity here. At times I felt you could have been more direct...but pulled back for the sake of a stablizing force here.
I've been a real Lambda believer...If you and some of the others recall. I tried various tactics to maneauver some of our Ford and other zealots to please let the forum follow a natural course and allow GM a fare chance to come back and
re-establish it's self respect as one, if not the leading manufaturers in the industry. But these pleads and attempts to keep this forum in focus and on tract fell on deaf ears.
It was as though these people were 'shills' for other Auto Firms, disguised as potential auto buffs checking out the Lambdas. Of course they could have just been meatheads that
lost an understanding what the forum's original intent was.
I did go another direction, but I'm not going to pound my chest subtley or boastfully what a great choice I made nor the positives my vehicle has over a Lambda. The past M O of some characters were to mention 2 good things about the Lambda and then follow up with a strong negative or a heavy cut at Lambda, followed by 2 lite positive remarks to cover the real intent. It's all so unnecessary and Myopian. Good luck and hope this forum gets some quality growth and GM
has success with it's new product.
In the Outlook there is just a void between the 2nd row captain chairs (in the XR version with the Premium Trim and captain chair pkgs)... I don't like it, but no center console is available as promised with the Enclave.
Such a console would seem to be an easy pop-in. My 14 year old thinks the void is nice because it facilitates access to the third seat and/or cargo.
Overall, the Outlook handled very nicely. Very much like a car. As good or better handling than my Honda Pilot. Certainly not a boat. Nice power, too... although not overly powerful and will probably get enthusiasts' harsh critiques... I was pleasantly impressed. The Aura seems like a nice sedan, too.
Maybe there's hope for GM...?
I am not a big GM, Ford or Chrysler fan... got screwed in the 70s with American car companies... so, in the last 27 years have only bought Honda, Acura and Toyota. Never a regret.
Seriously considering the Outlook, though I'd like to get the sexier looking Buick Enclave, if it can make it to market in the next month or so. Local Buick dealer says probably April or May delivery.
BTW Saturn is offering 0 percent, 36 month financing through FEB 28 and $1000 cash rebate (if your not driving a GM)...
I agree with the M.O!!! Lots of that happening here.
Firstly, I'm a competition BBQ cook who has spent the last 10 years pulling the back 2 seat out of my basic/basic 1996 4 cyl dodge caravan with roll up windows to pack in all the equip/tables/tents/chests/accessories/etc/etc like a sardine can in that 146 Cu ft. cargo area. Then when I saw the 'Outlook', with 80% the cargo area of the van, I said that was the vehicle for me!!! I could have a roof rack on
and a hitch carrier behind and I might even have a bit more cargo carrying capacity over all, not to mention reasonable
fuel economy and moderate pricing.
2ndly I went to the L.A. Auto Show and charged straight to the Saturn exhibit. It was everything I had hoped for and more. The back seats folded to make a nice cargo area as I wasn't looking for a people hauling. As I looked at the vehicle as a whole(there an hour)I decided...It was too damn nice and that in 3 to 5 years it wasn't going to look like anything like it did today with my greasy dirty hobby.
3rdly, decided if I went with an extended cab pickup with a shell that I could keep the cabin area quite nice and also not fret about a cabin/cargo combination(Lambda), though a truck wasn't in my plans. So I went with an 06' Tundra V6 extended Access cab SR5 and put the top of the line Leer shell all for $21,000(truck 19k)OTD thanx to internet sales/purchasing(it's the only way to go)... then a month
later bought my wifes 07 LE Camry 19k OTD with this method.
Take care and good luck.
I could not find anything using google and doubt it is a safety recall because it is so far away from the upper air bag and the passenger but I could be wrong. This is most likely a minor quality issue which GM will catch as cars come in for service that is not worth GM's or the owners time/money to send out notices.
While I have not seen the Acadia panel they are a bugger in all cars to get to stay down and a lot of development work is done to keep it secured and keep proper gaps around the part. Most likely the retainer(clip) will better secure or revise the location of the panel so that gaps are better. Even if yours looked OK others may have let loose and you get a wavy look.
I don't know if others would agree with my back seat assessment, but the back seat issue is a deal killer for me. Very surprising and disapointing.
Good luck,
B.
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