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My old W126 had an issue, you could hear a little air whoosh in when you removed the cap...but everything else seemed fine.
You might have damaged the evap canister by overfilling last time.
I TOTALLY agree with you, Fezo..... I've dumped many a car simply because I didn't like it.
Subaru and Toyota to Cut NA Production
Funny enough, he ended up having to go back and get a Honda rather than the Hyundai he wanted.
Tesla is not the new NUMMI
In this week’s San Francisco Business Times print edition, I write about a company called Plastikon that used to make things like mudflaps and door handles for the New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. factory. Plastikon is maybe the only NUMMI supplier from Alameda County that was nimble enough to reinvent itself by supplying parts to solar companies, survive the economic downturn and live long enough to negotiate a supplier agreement with Tesla Motors.
As for the rest of the auto suppliers, almost all of Alameda County’s 30 NUMMI suppliers shut down overnight — many on the not-funny-at-all April Fools Day 2009. And many of their workers have still not found jobs.
In Alameda County alone, 5,895 workers at the plant or at direct suppliers to the plant lost their jobs when NUMMI closed and that didn’t include companies with fewer than 50 employees or suppliers to other suppliers, Bertuccelli said.
A state report estimated the closure cost 20,000 jobs in the state.
This is why a lot of hope rides on Tesla Motors.
Skeptics say the electric vehicle startup can’t possibly scale – not in this economic environment and certainly not in California, which holds the unflattering top spot on the list of worst places to do business in the country.
Meanwhile the New Tesla factory is buzzing with activity – or at least it was last time I visited. While Tesla is putting former NUMMI suppliers like the guys at Plastikon to work, its also creating new market opportunities to the techno-innovative kinds of companies that have made Silicon Valley world-renowned.
In the short term, Tesla hopes to employ 1,000 workers and produce 20,000 of the Model S sedans at the new Tesla factory in 2012, while Toyota and GM made more than 300,000 at the height of NUMMI.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2011/02/tesla-is-not-the-new-nummi.- html
Wouldn't rule anything completely out though.
How about a Kia?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I will do you one better. I cannot think of a vehicle that is worth MSRP. I know I would NEVER pay much over invoice no matter how much I loved a vehicle. That would include a wonderful small diesel PU or SUV.
That is why when gas is expensive is the best time to buy that SUV you have always wanted. You will save enough money to pay for the difference in gas no matter how much it gets to be.
Yeah, looks like SIA pre-emptively canceled all overtime.
Bad news for Subaru especially since they already do not have enough supply of Outbacks.
Camry is made on a different assembly line and that'll slow a bit, too.
80% of the world's silicon wafers come from Japan. Ford is afraid that their hybrid production will be affected since batteries are sourced from Japan.
This will stall the CT launch, too.
And I agree with gagrice, virtually nothing on the market is legitimately deserving of an ADM. Some may get it due to irrational consumers, but in this economy, one would have to be silly at best, or stupid.
I knew a guy who paid $1750 over MSRP for an NA Miata when they came out.
I waited and bought a used one for 1/3rd what he paid, and it only had 26k miles on it. I put more miles on it than the original owner did!
Paying over MSRP is about the dumbest thing you can do.
For example when I bought my Honda Fit back at the end of 2006, every lot was selling them at MSRP. There was no incentive for the dealer to go below MSRP because they were going out about as fast as they were coming in. About a year later they were going down in price, but by then who knows how much more I would have spent on repairs to my old car. The difference between invoice and MSRP was only $600, so if I had waited a year to get the vehicle at less than MSRP just to save a few hundred dollars, it wouldn't have been worth the wait financially.
Plus I know & read about some paying "less than invoice" only to be screwed on their trade-in. So on the one hand they're bragging about how they paid less than invoice and saved $1000 but meanwhile they lost $3000 on their trade-in.
Bottom line is that that paying MSRP while probably not the smartest thing in many situations is only on factor in buying a car. Without know all of the other details saying "I'll never pay MSRP" is meaningless.
Friends of ours showed me a window sticker for their Kia--it had a $2500 ADM AND an extra $100 for nitrogen!!! Forte Koup'--bright red.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
* that's the air we breathe
You and I both know that the Kia store didn't take all the Korean air out of the tires and replace it with the nominally 95% N2 from their separator in the service department here.
I couldn't believe it when friend showed me the window sticker. I do know they negotiated a price based on other factors like the bottom line. But a $2600 ADM markup on a $18,000 or $20,000 coupe is really good.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I'm totally kidding. LOL
Dealer are for-profit and operate independently, but it is any surprised that car salesman are among the least trusted?
Plus, dealers like that spoil it for the honest ones.
I can see an in demand model (dunno of a Forte "K"oup qualifies) going for MSRP, but anything more just isn't realistic in this day and age. If you finance with a "deal" like that, you just get to remain upside-down that much longer too, no way to win.
Back in the old days local Honda dealers would try the second sticker, and Toyota dealers would hold firm on MSRP...not anymore. There's a VW dealer in the region who was notorious for the ADM too, not sure if they do it anymore.
The key is it's the dealer setting the price, not the manufacturer. They merely suggest a price, which noone follows.
I haven't seen such stuff at MB/BMW/Lexus dealers around here anyway, but as my eyes are bigger than my wallet, I don't browse often elsewhere :shades:
The Nissan GT-R has enormous markups, but so did some special edition Mustangs.
But for someone to pay a ~15% ADM (as that VW dealer liked to add to boring old Jettas and Passats) is craziness.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
Another odd one comes to mind - loaded early PT Cruisers - I remember these going for nearly 30K in the first many months of 2000, and Canadian dealers sending their allotments to the states as the greenback was worth more then. The people who bought those were certifiable.
Chrysler's marketing geniuses had hoped that the PT would pull in 20-something buyers, who would then become life-long Chrysler loyalists. They wanted to copy Toyota's success with the Corolla, which had been a big hit with young boomers back in the early 70s. Many of those boomers stayed with Toyota & are driving Avalons today.
Although the PT was a sales success, at least initially, young buyers stayed away from it in droves. I don't think I've ever seen anyone under the age of 45 behind the wheel of a PT.
You're right: the people who paid way over sticker for those things were certifiable.
Doesn't look any worse that a Matrix or Prius (since this is a Toyota board).
When they first hit the road, I wanted to like them too...but they seemed to become very uncool very fast, and were mostly downgraded as they aged, in that brilliant Detroit strategy.
The Matrix is seriously hideous now - more of that Toyota "style", the PT is actually better looking by a mile.
No real need for a vehicle. It is all within golf cart range.
http://www.thevillages.com/index.htm
(Gary, your friend needs to mod up his golf car to look like a PT Cruiser.
Like this gentleman?
The PT Cruiser may have failed to pull in all those 20-somethings, but I understand it was a smash hit with executives from midsized regional paper supply companies.
The Matrix is seriously hideous now - more of that Toyota "style", the PT is actually better looking by a mile.
I always liked the looks of the PT Cruiser. I finally had one a number of years ago as a rental and was disappointed. If they had put a really nice interior in that car and give it some decent mechanicals, it could have been a really good vehicle.
I agree, the Matrix is hideous and much worse looking that the previous version. Which is why perhaps I almost never see the new ones on the road.
Surprised he didn't have a Solara too.
The only new Matrix I see are rentals.