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  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Yep Lexus doesn't make a true SUV, neither does MB

    What do you consider the Toyota Land Cruiser (Lexus LX470)? It was one of the original SUVs if not THE original. How about the Mercedes G500 vehicle (Overseas Army SUVs with three locking differentials, ultra utilitarian (square) design, and brawny 300hp V-8 engine)?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    My post #360 was repeated by others a little earlier, sorry, I had not read that far and had to respond!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Look up.

    I have a friend who bought a brand new G500 and took it up north. He is sorry he did, he says it didn't come back in as good a condition as when he left. Of course he went where most people wouldn't go, but it still didn't hold out to well. FWIW 20+ years ago we took the same trip in a CJ5 which handled it great.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • garandmangarandman Member Posts: 524
    Every time I see a Hummer it's, "What were they thinking?"

    Poser? Wannabee? Don't they realize Privates drive in the Army?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Don't they realize Privates drive in the Army?

    Not always, Flag officers usually have sergeants driving them around. A dignitary being driven around by the Army might even rate a junior officer.

    I once got to drive a Humvee (not a Hummer an actual Humvee) it was sort of fun but wouldn't want to drive one on a regular basis (unless it was through a free fire zone).

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jefferygjefferyg Member Posts: 418
    What do you consider the Toyota Land Cruiser (Lexus LX470)? It was one of the original SUVs if not THE original.

    A friend of mine had an older Land Cruiser. I believe it was built back in the 70's. SUV is not what comes to mind when I think about it. It was more like a Willis Jeep on steroids. It was built out of iron and steel, a serious off-roader, the ultimate hunting vehicle, nothing like today's land cruiser. About the only things then and now share are big tires, poor fuel economy, and the name.
  • scramblinmanscramblinman Member Posts: 33
    "What do you consider the Toyota Land Cruiser (Lexus LX470)? It was one of the original SUVs if not THE original."

    If there is one term I would not use to describe Toyota, it would be original. The original Land Cruisers were basically immitations of Willies products. Yes, those older Land Cruisers were rugged offroad machines. But with the addition of IFS, painted urethane bumpers, low hanging running boards and general emphasis on luxury and status rather than real performance, I would hardly be eager to take one offroad on my own dime.
  • stockmanjoestockmanjoe Member Posts: 353
    Remember how bad the Yugos were?
  • goodegggoodegg Member Posts: 905
    Yes - they were as bad as Kias are now....
  • fiat600guyfiat600guy Member Posts: 2
    You guys seem to forget the Jeep Wagoneer... and before that, the post-WWII Jeep station wagon.

    Just for "yuks," I've been driving FIATs since 1958 and Yugos since 1988. With a reasonable amount of "preventive," I've experienced excellent service from them all and have driven well over 100K on many of them, including the Yugos (FIAT 145).
    :)
  • fiat600guyfiat600guy Member Posts: 2
    Hey, both the PT and HHR were designed by the same guy!
  • stockmanjoestockmanjoe Member Posts: 353
    I did have a co-worker who recently told me he liked his Yugo and it was a reliable car. But you two I think are the only ones most people I spoke to said they were very bad. The last time I saw one on the road was March 1998.
  • stockmanjoestockmanjoe Member Posts: 353
    How do you make a Yugo go faster?
    A towtruck.

    What do you call the shock absorbers inside a Yugo?
    Passengers.

    Two guys in a Yugo were arrested last night in Oakland following a push-by shooting incident.

    The new Yugo has an air bag. When you sense an impending accident, start pumping real fast.

    A friend went to a dealer the other day and said, "I'd like a gas cap for my Yugo." The dealer replied, "Okay. Sounds like a fair trade."

    I have also said for years that the car is named because "Yugo, but it doesn't".

    How can you get a Yugo to do 60 miles an hour?
    Push it over a cliff.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I actually saw a Yugo about two years ago. Was surprised to see it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    I saw one too. In October 2000 in an affluent suburb of Columbus, Ohio.
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    I like your Yugo humor by the way... :)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    Does he know any Honda and Toyota jokes?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...for a 1987 Yugo and it came back as $37.00. I can buy several Yugos with what's in my wallet.
  • harrycheztharrychezt Member Posts: 405
    hey, if it ran, for 37 dollars, and you had it 3 or 4 days, you already came out ahead, versus a rental car ;)
  • harrycheztharrychezt Member Posts: 405
    had a Yugo, got it @ 30,000 or so mile, and drove it for 2.5 years, to 95,000 miles. He had no problems until 3 weeks before leaving shore duty for a ship.
    Tranny was slipping, he said.( think it was an 87, and he got rid of it in fall of 90).

    Do not know what happened, as he had 18 days of leave(before going to his next duty station, the ship).

    I think he said he paid 1,300?
  • blnewtoblnewto Member Posts: 146
    Hilarious movie w/ Danny Devito, Bette Midler & Jamie Lee Curtis. Everyone in town had a Yugo, even the cops, LOL
  • steven922steven922 Member Posts: 49
    Texas Cadillc (A white mid 70's ElDorado convert with the horns on the front.

    Speaking of Yugo's and Cadillac's, I remember a car dealer having a radio ad in Hartford Ct. A free Yugo with the purchase of any new Cadillac on the lot. Not a bad deal if
    you were going to buy one anyway, but I don't think people were running over there for the free Yugo.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Anybody remember Boss Hogg's ride? It was a white 1970 Cadillac Deville convertible,
  • navigator89navigator89 Member Posts: 1,080
    I just watched Dukes of Hazzard, and I liked his ride. He had the pistol shaped door handle, and a longhorn on the front. His ride had style.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    Here's one:

    Q: What do the Korean car companies want to be when they grow up?

    A: Toyota or Honda.
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    That's not funny if you're Toyota. Hyundai is already larger than Honda by sales volume, and they're larger than Nissan if you include Kia.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I've heard a few jabs, directed mainly directed at Toyota. These were from the Mopar Mailing List I belong to...mainly in member's signature blocks in their emails.

    One guy's sig block read "I'd rather have a real 'Ota than one of them Toy ones!" And another read "The last thing I want is a car for 'everyday people'".

    I know there's an acronym list for car names on the web somewhere. I don't remember what the acronym for "Toyota" was, but "Honda" was "Had One, Never Did Again"!

    A few other gems...
    "Hope You Understand Nothing's Dependable And Inexpensive"
    "Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips"
    "Old Leisurely Driven Sedan Mostly Based On Buick's Illegitimate Leftover Excrement"
    "Killed In Action"

    And one that tends not to get mentioned in Mopar forums...
    "Mostly Old Parts And Rust"! :P
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    True, Hyundai is grow and improving by leaps and bounds. If I were either Honda or Toyota I would be watching the very closely.

    BTW where did you get those sales figure, they don't seem right to me? I would think that Hyundai was way behind both Honda and Toyota is sales volume.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    That's funny.
    I don't see Mercedes, Lexus, or Infiniti up there.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    When you get some let us know.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    Sure will... Those seem to be harder than others... Especially Infiniti, with all those I's.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    you might want to go back in your message and edit "Pontiac"...the list you found is a politically incorrect version. These days I've usually seen the word "Ninny" used.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Member Posts: 1,711
    Don't forget this one-

    SAAB:
    Sure Ain't A Bimmer
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    BTW where did you get those sales figure, they don't seem right to me? I would think that Hyundai was way behind both Honda and Toyota is sales volume.

    Hyundai is way behind Toyota and Honda in US sales. Honda's sales are largely in Japan and the US, with some modest numbers in Europe. Hyundai holds a sizeable chunk of the Korean market, plus growing sales in the US, China, and India puts them up over Honda. 2005 sales numbers should be coming out before too long.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    sorry didn't notice that, thats what happens when you cut and paste :P

    Since its past the allotted time for editing would a host please edit it?

    I e-mailed a host about it.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • mango3mango3 Member Posts: 4
    Don't buy the Honda Odyssey. I have had nothing but trouble since I bought it 7 weeks ago. There is now a crack in the transmission that occurred in the factory. Honda will only replace it with used parts and refuse to give me the serial number of the part so I can tell if it is a hurricane Katrina part. Honda service has turned American. I hope the American car companies take this opportunity to make a comeback. Working with Honda is like living on Pearl Harbor on 12/7/1941
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Working with Honda is like living on Pearl Harbor on 12/7/1941

    I have a relative who spent several hours on the tarmac on Hickam field with shrapnel in both legs who would strongly disagree with you on that point.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    We cannot edit posts, don't have that ability. Had to delete it.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Okay, here it is again...the PC (more or less) version! I tried to look through it real quick to see if there was anything else questionable. Often with "Ford" you get the many acronyms that use a naughty word. And "BMW" has spawned a few racial epithets in its time...

    ACURA:
    Another Crummy, Useless, Rotten Automobile
    Asia's Curse Upon Rural America

    AMC:
    All Makes Combined
    A Morons Car
    Another Major Catastrophe

    AUDI:
    Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
    Automobile Under Demonic Influence
    Another Ugly Deutsche Invention
    Always Undermining Deutsche Intelligence

    BMW:
    Brutal Money Waster
    Beastly Monstrous Wonder
    Born Moderately Wealthy
    Brings Me Women
    Broke My Wallet
    Blasphemous Motorized Wreck

    BUICK:
    Big Ugly Indestructible Car Killer
    Big Ugly Imitation Chrome King

    CHEVROLET:
    Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
    Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
    Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques

    DODGE:
    Drips Oil & Drops Grease Everywhere
    Damn Old Dirty Gas Eater
    Dead On Day Guarantee Expires
    Dead On Delivery, Go Easy
    Dear Old Dads Garage Experiment

    EDSEL: Every Day Something Else Leaks

    FIAT:
    Failure in Italian Automotive Technology
    Fix It Again, Tony!
    Feeble Italian Attempt at Transportation

    FORD:
    Frigin' Old Rebuilt Dodge
    Fix Or Repair Daily
    Found On Road Dead
    Fast Only Rolling Downhill
    First On Race Day
    First On Recall Day
    Fails On Rainy Days
    Fatally Obese Redneck Driver
    Fireball On Rear Denting
    Forward Only; Reverse Defective
    Forlorn, Old, Ratridden Dustbin
    Fork Over Repair Dough
    Fumes and Odors Readily Detectable

    GEO: Good Engineering Overlooked

    GM:
    General Maintenance
    Great Mistake
    Garbage Motors
    Generally Miserable
    Grossly Misconceived
    Gluteus Maximus

    GMC:
    Garage Man's Companion
    Gotta Mechanic Coming?
    Generally Mediocre Cars
    Gods Mechanical Curse
    Got More Crap
    Great Mountain Climber
    Great Motor Car

    GTO: Gas, Tires, Oil

    HONDA:
    Had One Never Did Again
    Hang On, Not Done Accelerating
    Hallmark Of Non-Descript Automobiles
    Hallmark Of Non-Destructable Automobiles

    HYUNDAI: Hope You Understand Nothing's Driveable And Inexpensive...

    JEEP:
    Just Eats Every Part
    Junk Engineering Executed Poorly

    KIA: Killed In Action

    MAZDA: Most Always Zipping Dangerously Along

    MG: Money Guzzler

    MIATA: My Intention: Always To Accelerate

    MOPAR:
    Many Odd Parts Arranged Randomly
    Miscellaneous Oddball Parts Assembled Ridiculously
    Most Often Passed At Races
    Mostly Old Parts And Rust
    My Only Problems Are Repairs

    MUSTANG: Motor Under Strain, Transmission Almost No Good

    OLDSMOBILE: Overpriced, Leisurely Driven Sedan Made Of Buick's Irregular Leftover Equipment

    PINTO:
    Put In Nickel To Operate
    Paid Inspector Nicely To Overlook

    PLYMOUTH: Please Leave Your Money Out Under The Hood

    PONTIAC: Poor Old Ninny Thinks Its A Cadillac

    PORSCHE: Proof Of Rich Spoiled Children Having Everything

    SAAB:
    Send Another Automobile Back
    Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown
    Sad Attempt At Beauty
    Shape Appears [non-permissible content removed]-Backwards

    SUBARU: Screwed Up Beyond All Repair Usually

    TOYOTA:
    Too Often Yankees Overprice This Auto
    Torturous On Your Old Tired [non-permissible content removed]
    The One You Ought To Avoid

    TRIUMPH:
    This Really Is Unreliable Man, Please Help!
    Tried Repairing It Until My Parts Hurt!

    VOLVO: Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object

    VW: Virtually Worthless
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Thanks for editing that! This has been a strange week!

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Coasties have (or at least had) a habit of driving cheaper cars. I guess it comes from all that experience of running the service on a shoestring.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    I highly doubt that Toyota and Honda haven't been taking notice of what the Koreans are doing. They didn't get to where there are today by resting on their laurels. I can assure you they will do whatever is necessary to stay on top and they possess the knowhow to do so.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I am sure they are watching the competition especially the Koreans. Its just that some of the "I love Japanese cars why don't you?" crowd don't think Hyundai is a threat to Toyota and Honda.

    There is another competitor that has it in their power to trump the Japanese and are making some of the right moves. Lets see if they can keep it up and lets see who holds what cards in 2010.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ....Hyundai (or any other auto maker for that matter) is only a threat to the likes of Honda and Toyota if they allow them to be. Honda and Toyota have proved over the years they can trump anything the competition brings to the table. As long as they realize they have to stay on their toes to stay on top, they will. The end result is better vehicles for the consumer.
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ....someone says " I wouldn't be caught dead driving a minivan" as they're getting into their SUV.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Companies who take that approach usually wake up one day and say "what happened?". The only way Honda and Toyota will stay where they are and/or grow is if they view every other manufacturer a serious threat.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Guys driving these have to be with-it 100.00 percent of time behind the wheel. They don't get second chances. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't even want to pull up next to one of these to wait for a light at an intersection. Hope that traffic works out that I am well behind at a light. Wonder if these drivers need some type of special driver's license.

    Read that about 50+ years ago in Chicago, a streetcar and gasoline truck collided and many were burned to death.
  • edkleinedklein Member Posts: 34
    Careful now. It took the Japanese a long time to get to where they are. There was a time when you would have been declared crazy if you suggested that the likes of Toyota would have ever been a challenge GM.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Wonder if these drivers need some type of special driver's license.

    No special license, but they do need to be certified and there are a lot of regulations regarding the transportation of hazardous materials such as training and registration.

    however they are pretty safe, with very few incidents each year. I feel much safer around one than an SUV driven by someone that looks like they just got their license.

    The street car incident was the fault of the street car not the gasoline truck and most people died because there was a bar across the windows (to prevent people from sticking the heads out the windows and getting hurt).

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    someone says " I wouldn't be caught dead driving a minivan" as they're getting into their SUV.

    Or tries to squeeze 4 kids into a Cavalier.
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