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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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Road noise in any modern vehicle is most often a function of tire design, not vehicle design. Accords come from the factory with hard/stiff tires to maximize fuel mileage. That results in slightly increased road noise. Most people would never notice the difference if they were listening to their radios while driving.
Changing to a different model tire when the OEMs wear out will resolve that concern.
However, I test drove a 2008 LX-P that had no ANC and I didn't notice it being unusually noisy on the highway compared to other similar midsized sedans.
Camry and Malibu are quieter though.
I wasn't paying attention because I thought my 08 4cyc coupe has no flicker problem and I read your post saying that A/C being used caused the flickering.
I parked the car in the garage tonight and tried A/C on for a while. I was surprised to see a visible flicking. It is funny that it does every 17 seconds you mentioned.
I'm kind of wondering what it would be if I drive the car on the road and does flicking every 17 seconds. I seems like A/C draws a lot of juice every 17 seconds, and I can hear the sound of clinking.
People who own 08 4cyc accord, try A/C on for a while and see if the flicker prrblem is noticeble.
I don't know what to do now. I guess I can report this problem to Honda, but what they will do isn't promissing at this point.
I normally just read and never felt I had much to add, but thought I would let you know that this has been occurring in more than just the 08's.
Tayl0rd, I also have on 05 GT 5-speed. In hibernation until the snow stops flying.
And yes, I've used the AC plenty.
Yes, I see it, especially at idle. It is more prevalent in my 2.2L 1996 Accord though.
I like the point emale brought up - my house does this as well.
If you go to lower profile, you must go to wider tires. Wider tires could run into inner fenders when wheels are turned all the way or when you hit a bump and the suspension is compressed.
Check at tirerack.com for conversion. If I were you, I would stick with the same tires that are on the vehicle.
Plus I have raced on the track - generally they are much smoother than public roads. Generally - there are exceptions. Still say IRS is the way to go on the street - Ford admitted it would have been better in 2007 but would have added $5000 to the cost of each car! There is the reason it is not on them - not that it isn't better.
I think your car, as well as others, has a problem with an electrical component of some sort. I strongly encourage you to make HONDA fix it to your satisfaction.
On a better note, WeatherTech released their floor liners for the 08's and I put mine in today, they are EXCELLENT, the fit is great, they look great, and they come up a good 3-4" on all sides to protect the other vertical carpets surfaces that your feet will rub. No more generic rubber mats slipping all over and exposing clean carpet underneath to my wet feet.
Here in Vermont where we are deep within snow and salt season, with at least another 2-3 months of that to go, I'm very happy to have them in.
It would seem to me that the only way NHTSA would request/demand a recall on Honda's part- would be if all illumination completely failed....
A flicker - on the other hand- or dimming- would seem to fall under the "operating as designed" category and pose no significant or real risk to anyones safety-
1) when I activate the windshield wiper fluid, the wipers (unlike every other car I've had) do not come on automatically (I am pushing (or pulling, depending on how you look at it) the wiper fluid stalk long enough so that the wipers should come on). Is this by design (hard to imagine)? If not, is there some control to activate this feature, or is this a service issue?
2) I am having what seems like some very rough, or exaggerated downshifting. I posted the details in the VCM thread, and am pasting below (sorry for the double-posting, but it appears to relate to both subjects, and some people might read this thread but not the other one, and vice versa). Any thoughts you have would be appreciated.
Other than these issues, the car is quite enjoyable, but the second issue in particular is significant.
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I have a 2008 EX-L V6 automatic. I am not experiencing the surging or vibration others have experienced. I do notice, however, that the downshifting, particularly in the low 20 mph range (so I'm guessing 3rd to 2nd?), is frequently quite exaggerated or noticeable -- I feel a real dragging feel, almost as if the car is braking by itself. I don't think it's a VCM problem, as it happens when the car is already in "ECO" mode and also when it is not. Could this be the "grade logic" system (although I feel the dragging feel on flat roads as well as on ascents and descents)? Or is there a potential transmission issue? Or is this a feel common among Hondas (if so, it would be totally different from any other car I've had, including an Accord many years ago)?
As to VCM itself, I can sometimes notice when it kicks in -- a slight sensation of some sort just before the ECO light comes on -- but more often it is not noticeable. If I didn't have the downshifting issue mentioned above, I probably wouldn't pay much attention to it. I do notice that the ECO light goes on and off quite frequently. I would like it if Honda offered some system for disabling the light, since it is somewhat annoying going on and off as it does; and it's not as if there's anything I can do about it when it comes on or goes off.
On these covers they have push pins and plastic tabs.
Thanks,
Joe
Ha, a 34" inseam.
This is me, the day we picked up my car from the dealer (Nov. 12, 2005). I was 18 and so blessed to have it!
Stunning styling, a much more substantial interior, and the engine has a menacing growl in the first few gears. It feels like its geared taller, and with more power available, I found myself downshifting a lot less. The clutch takeup is not as abrupt as that of the 03, although with almost 270 hp going to the front wheels, it is almost too much power without a LSD. But I've yet to really experience any torque steer yet at launch. The meatier tires help, and the Michelin MXMs are still biased toward comfort over handling (that much hasn't changed). I will switch to summer rubber when the weather improves. The handling with stock tires is not bad, but I know it can be much better with stickier rubber. Braking distances would also be shortened with better tires. It's not bad as is, but could be improved without a doubt.
It's still not an easy car to shift smoothly (will get better with practice), but they've improved the linkage and clutch take up. The biggest difference is how much more power is on tap from launch and up the gears, and the car feels heavier and more stable at speed. The seats are very firm, and although some have complained about back pain, I think they're extremely comfortable and easy to find a good driving position.
The center stack is way too busy (what 30 buttons?) but once you get used to where everything is, it's intuitive. I miss the old steering wheel and stubby shifter, but this new car just feels so much more mature and subtantial. The steering wheel is very very thick compared to last gen. Honda has made a blatant attempt to copy BMW, and it mostly works.
The 03 was probably a bit more tossable, but until this car is broken in, I'll reserve judgment. There is a lot more sheet metal in front of the windshield, but visibility is still very good. It's a deeply sculpted car, and you sit in it like you're in a cocoon. A different sensation from the previous generation car. Exterior dynamics are very good...I drove home against a 40 mph head wind out of Chicago on Sunday, and the car was very stable and the wind did little to bother it. I know in my previous Accord, I would have had more trouble maintaining control at 75-80mph. There is less wind noise and the new stereo system w/subwoofer is a huge upgrade over the previous car's sound.
Handling in the snow is still decent with VSA, but this car is happiest on dry, twisty roads or the freeway. The new 6spd coupe is an absolute blast to drive! Highly recommended and a great value at $26K. It is light years ahead of the previous generation, IMHO, for just a little more coin. But you get so much more equipment (safety and comfort and speed and handling) that this car is a bargain.
Mine is an exL with navi. After a few days I can handle the center stak layout just fine, and I think the Navi with the big button is superior to the touch screen.
It is def a blast to drive. Got mine at Thanksgiving, and here in central NY there hasn't been much dry road tme. Looking forward to spring and summer and prob a few speeding tix.
One more "fun" factor!, I also had the rearvire camera installed ($660) and love it. (Another bad habit I learned from my Pilot!).
Does it show the text on Mp3 Cd's?
Does it show the text on Mp3 Cd's?
I don't know about tweaking the system to play DVDs, but yes, the Navi screen does show the song information (title, and depending on how the MP3 is named, the artist). You can place your artists in folders, and then scroll through the folders and choose specific MP3 files using the Navi screen.
I love that I can load up six CDs with 100+ MP3 files each, though I've noticed the Navi screen titles each CD based on the first MP3 title on each CD. Found a work-around by adding a fake 1sec MP3 file named whatever I want the CD title to be indicated as on the Navi screen (e.g. "-Rock.mp3" ... the dash in the name causes it to list first, and thus that's what the CD shows up as on the Navi screen).
The sound of CDs and MP3 files is so good in the my Accord coupe v6MT compared to the mediocre sound of XM in my opinion. XM variety is good, but sound quality is causing me to wonder if I want to continue after the 3 month trial.
I made it a priority. IMO it will only be a few years before navi will be pretty standard, they work so well and improve your driving life. To me, the external units don't work as well, look as good, and integrate into the other systems that are accessible thru voice control as do the in=dash factory units. This latest generation, with the big control knob, is a big improvement over the touch screen.
Hey, it's my opinion, and plenty of others are saving money and getting the portables. To each their own.
I have two Accords which I use my Garmin in. I've also used it in in an Odyssey, a '97 Maxima, a '97 Civic, and my dad's 2007 Civic. Ya just can't do that with a built-in.
Also, the updates are easier for the portables, and the user interface can be much more simple depending on the brand of car you drive.
Just presenting the other side of the coin.
I also have 2 other Hondas with Navi (2005 RL and 2006 Ody Touring), and because I wanted the portability this time, I did not order my 6spd coupe with a navi system.