2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan

uscratch

Oh well... I have to see what they say about it then.

3 in the back would not be comportable at all. 2 should be ok, still not great tough. It's a coupe, can't have everything.

lygar

I just purchased a 2008 Accord coupe V6 and am noticing the same noise issue which sounds like a valve ticking. Did you have any good responses to your posting?

blufz1

Keep your tires inflated to the recommended pressure. The higher the tire pressure the harder the hit!

jhinsc

Lot of things could happen with a big pothole: alignment issues; bent rim; at worst - both of those and some frame damage, although you would have to hit a really big and deep hole. Have it checked out as soon as possible! :sick:

thegraduate

Lot of things could happen with a big pothole: alignment issues; bent rim; at worst - both of those and some frame damage, although you would have to hit a really big and deep hole.

You mean like this?

cstiles

Bug4 said: "The attorneys fees are deducted from that payment and, consequently, are an expense born by the class members -- not the company."

Not sure what you mean here. The defendent company pays for its negligence, and attorney fees are a part of that. The class members are the group of plaintiffs that bring the legal action, therefore they do not bear the expense. It is indeed the company that is held liable that ultimately bears the expense.

Unfortunately, in the real world, these cases rarely go to trial. Due to the high cost to defend such cases, many defendant companies simply pay up and deny negligence at the same time. In these real situations, the attorneys still collect their fees, companies continue to deny responsibility, and consumers say "what happened?"

And the price of a product includes the legal costs described above.

Our legal system is overloaded as it is. And American consumers are quick to sue when they see a headlight flickering for a nano-second, spill hot coffee on their own laps, blame the tobacco company for their cancer, McDonalds for their obesity, and on and on.

bvdj84

Does this refer back to the 2008 Honda Accord?

Some of these posts do not make sense.

emale

sounds to me like you might have broken a belt in that tire...and maybe even bent the wheel. the front suspension can actually handle quite a bit. fwiw, i hit a huge pothole going 40 mph with my '03 accord coupe and that tire developed a sidewall bubble...but nothing else was harmed...replaced the tire...good as new!

boca_jan

Over the weekend I was hit in the rear by a drunk driver going about 60 mph and I was either stopped or slowing for a light. The back end was trashed, pushed up against the front seats. My Accord spun around and hit 3 other cars. Other then some bruising I was ok. The cops said I should have died.

Thank you Honda Accord for giving your life for me.

uscratch

So much snow last night and still today in Chicagoland, I could't tell if the wheel balance is off or not anymore. My car drives ok so far, I just have to wait until next week sometime when weather clears up.
I only put on 1,300 miles so far, it sucks when things like that happened.

personatech

Wow - glad to hear you're OK!! I've been rear-ended before, but not by someone doing 60!

ezshift5

...on page 104 of their March 2008 issue (My copy yet to arrive: I get this dope from TOV) has great numbers for the 2008 AV6 6M..................

Come on USPS!!

all the best, ez....

cstiles

Yes, it relates to the flickering headlights and someone's recommendation that class action is the best response to this issue.

cstiles

Which of your airbags deployed? Did your curtain airbags inflate on both sides? The 2008 Accord also has the newly designed active head restraints. One of the major plusses with all Hondas is the fact that every model offers the full complement of safety equipment. Take VSC, for example. With Nissan, Toyota, and most other brands, you have to order certain safety options as part of a package, and it can be confusing. Honda eliminates all that hassle and includes VSC, ABS, EBD, TCS, 4-6 airbags, and active head restraints across their entire line.

cstiles

I just got my C&D in the mail yesterday. It's a quick article, but a nice review on the 6spd! My 6spd arrives next Wednesday and I can't wait to pick it up. Going to drive up to the Chicago Auto Show this Friday in it. I just sold my 2003 6spd to a private party for a nice price so the timing is perfect, plus I got $2000 off MSRP on my new 6spd, so I'm a happy camper.

ezshift5

......I just got my C&D in the mail yesterday.

Thanks (..left coast must be last in this quadrant of our society also....)

After the dust settles, please post your impression of how the 6M clutch has improved over your Gen7 version.

best, ez....

amad1

I just test drove it. Nice ride, very quick, but leather seats are hard as cement. Anyone knows if the seats get more comfortable over time?

bvdj84

I will agree with that, even with the 06 Accord, the seats are very firm, I had a hard time when riding from florida to Indiana for a whole day, it was really hurting my bottom, and back. I had to keep moving around, because it was getting all stiff, it hurt. But, it was like 14hrs in the car. I think the Accord has better seats than most other cars. Its contours you, and adds a bit of sport.

viet

Yes, the seat hurted my butts and back at first. But I get used to that after a week or so because the Accord has been built and refined to last, on every single aspect. I like the Accord V6, the sport sedan.

bvdj84

I suppose if I thought it was practical for me to have a V6, than I would get the V6. I suppose I could get one, instead of getting the Navi, but the 4cyl, is amazing! I love my accord! Its like they say, once you go honda, you don't go back. Its true for me. I looked at Camry, but I couldn't bring me away from honda, It didn't have the pizazz like the Honda.

But anyone that has a V6, only adds to the fun!

viet

Yes. The Accord V6 means extra smoothness and power. When one buys V6 he/ she will rarely go back to I4.

carzzy

You will be impressed with this car! I am very happy with mine! Best of luck with it!

jaxs1

People will. I had a V6 Accord in the past, but I would be more likely to get a 4 cylinder this time. I have test driven a 4 cylinder Accord and was satisfied with both the smoothness and power despite being aware that the V6 version would have more power.
Every extra MPG or 2 will make a difference in 5 years from now. Imagine the worst case scenario of fuel prices.

austinman7

The Accord brochure states that ANC (Active Noise Cancelation) is intended to "cancel out any undesirable noise that may be due to the harmonics of three-cylinder operation."

Given that, does anyone know what benefit ANC could possibly have for the 4 cyl. models, such as the EX-L that I'm considering? Are there some harmonics with this new 4 cyl. that need to be canceled out?

Also, for those of you who already have a 4 cyl., is there anything peculiar about the ANC, or do you feel it just works as advertised?

I'm driving an 04 4 cyl., and am getting ready to test drive an 08 EX-L. I'll be interested to see how the 190hp feels compared with my current 160.

st1300

I would seriously advise all of you contemplating a 4 cyl Ex to look at it at night...put the air and headlights on and watch for the flickering headlights as the A/C cycles on and off...very annoying and so far Honda will not acknowledge the problem.

blackexv6

The ANC in the 4-cyl EX+ models is suppose to reduce the road noise problems.

IMO, it is a cheap subsitutue for sound deadening material & doesn't work very well.

You will not see an appreciable difference in road noise between your '04 & the '08.

Sporin

People will. I had a V6 Accord in the past, but I would be more likely to get a 4 cylinder this time. I have test driven a 4 cylinder Accord and was satisfied with both the smoothness and power despite being aware that the V6 version would have more power.
Every extra MPG or 2 will make a difference in 5 years from now. Imagine the worst case scenario of fuel prices.

I'll second that. My last car was a V6, loved the power but really didn't need it and the fuel bills only get worse. I ONLY wanted a 4cyl this time around. Very happy with my LX's power (for my needs).

The only time I "miss" the V6 power is big hills + highway speeds + wanting to luckily move out. That's nothing witha V6 but requires a quick downshift in the 4cyl. Accord.

amad1

I would seriously advise all of you contemplating a 4 cyl Ex to look at it at night...put the air and headlights on and watch for the flickering headlights as the A/C cycles on and off...very annoying and so far Honda will not acknowledge the problem.

Is the problem so bad that if you had to do it all over again, knowing ahead of time, would still purchase the Accord?

austinman7

blackexv6,

Thanks for that information.

I'm okay with the road noise in my current 04 LX, even though it's a little worse than my previous two cars -- a Regal and a Camry. Besides, I have my own Active Noise Cancelation system -- it's called the Eagles or Fleetwood Mac, cranked way up.

bug4

I have the 08 4 cyl and, although I notice the flickering headlights, it is absolutely a non-issue for me. I wish it didn't do it, but it is not a big deal at all in my book.

With regard to ANC, I have had no issues at all. In the 4-cyl models, the ANC is designed to simply try to cancel some portion of the engine noise (which is more noisy in a 4-cyl model than it would be in a 6-cyl). It certainly does not cancel all the engine noise - but I assume it is canceling some and I am happy with the engine noise levels in my new Accord. The road and wind noise issue is a little less pleasing. With regard to wind and road noise, I would rate my new Accord as "average." Its not unacceptable -- but neither is the noise level impressive!

I doubt you will notice a big difference in the new 190 hp engine. I went from a 1998 4cyl. accord to my 08. Although the 08 is slightly more powerful, it is a much bigger car and the difference isn't really very noticeable until I reach the 4500 rpm range. Of course, my 98 was a manual transmission which I MUCH prefer to the automatic. There is no problem with the automatic in my 08 Accord, I would just MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have a manual when dealing with a small engine with relatively little torque at low RPMS.

I think you will love the EX-L. I sure do. Just remember, its a Honda not a Porsche and its a $25,000 car -- not a $40,000.00 car. If you stay realistic, I think you will be very impressed with what you get for your money! I certainly would buy the same car again -- I would just hold out for a manual transmission :-)

Good luck!

austinman7

bug4,

Thanks for all that feedback. Your experience is encouraging. My 04 LX is my first Honda, and I've been pleased with it overall. I drove an 08 EX-LV6 briefly in September when they first came out, and really liked the feel of the interior, the driving position, and the roominess. I was thinking I might switch to the V6, but the discussions about VCM are a little off-putting. Maybe the issue is limited to a few cars and maybe it will be resolved, but it's really not my ideal situation. I'd prefer a straight V6. As someone said on that post, it seems like a lot of engineering for not a real great benefit.

Anyway, I'm going to give the EX-L 4 cyl. a try, probably this weekend, and I'll post my thoughts next week. I'm with you on the low torque at low rpms, though I've adjusted to it in my current Accord. I guess the availability of the manual was an issue, and you settled for the automatic? I drove a lot of manuals in my youth, but I'm going to stay with automatics from here on out. I'm also with you on what you get for your money with an Accord. I paid $19,500 for my plain-Jane LX four years ago and consider it a real bargain. It continues to be a very solid car. I'm looking to move up to leather this time, plus a few more extras.

jimplogger

I find the front seat back terribly uncorfortable on the 2008 Accord. The problem with this model is the interactive headrest. They are activated by extreme pressure on the seat back. The very hard spot that you are feeling in your back is the portion of the headrest that pushes it forward in the case of a rearend collision. Reach back with both hands and gently pull on the headrest forward and you will actually fell the seat soften. This is a terrible design on an otherwise fantstic automobile. Of course, everyone at the dealership where I purchased the car says the the seats are very comfortable for them!

viet

Jimplogger,

I also have an '08 Accord and get used to the front seats. It's federal requirement to protect driver/ front passenger's necks & heads in case of accident.

bearblack

Trust me, I've owned 5 Accords 87,89, 91EX (the best) 2001EXL (very good) and now a 2008 EX 4cyl 5spd. The 08 is a huge car in comparison. Better try one out before buying as I find it a bit unrefined for a Honda. The gas pedal vibrates like, well, a vibrator, so much for drive by wire. The vibrations I get at hwy speeds in the steering wheel tells me there is something wrong. Had the car in 4 times the first Mo I owned it and still no answer from the dealer, other than ruining my rims with "hammer on" wheel weights. (made for steel rims) Oh ya, they also replaced 2 tires, saying that maybe the "belts shifted", ya right. Still has vibration, simular to a slightly bad rack& pinion (or wheel balance) dealer says all the 4 cyl Accords drive that way. After a mo of dealer bull, I brought it to Town Fair tire. They balanced the tires the way the factory does, better but still not exactly smooth. Oh Ya, when Town Fair Tire checked the dealers fancy tire work (LIBERTY HONDA, HARTFORD, CT) they found 42psi fl, 26psi fr, and the two backs at 36psi. Of course the service mgr was quoted saying that all dealers use those steel, hammer on tire weights. Hmmmm, wonder why Honda uses stick on ones! Anyways, try one out before buying. I didn't! Trusted Honda's reputation for quality.
Anyone looking for a 3k 08 EX. I've got a real :lemon: Stick to Made In The Good Ole JAPAN!

bearblack

Trust me, I've owned 5 Accords 87,89, 91EX (the best) 2001EXL (very good) and now a 2008 EX 4cyl 5spd. The 08 is a huge car in comparison. Better try one out before buying as I find it a bit unrefined for a Honda. The gas pedal vibrates like, well, a vibrator, so much for drive by wire. The vibrations I get at hwy speeds in the steering wheel tells me there is something wrong. Had the car in 4 times the first Mo I owned it and still no answer from the dealer, other than ruining my rims with "hammer on" wheel weights. (made for steel rims) Oh ya, they also replaced 2 tires, saying that maybe the "belts shifted", ya right. Still has vibration, simular to a slightly bad rack& pinion (or wheel balance) dealer says all the 4 cyl Accords drive that way. After a mo of dealer bull, I brought it to Town Fair tire. They balanced the tires the way the factory does, better but still not exactly smooth. Oh Ya, when Town Fair Tire checked the dealers fancy tire work (LIBERTY HONDA, HARTFORD, CT) they found 42psi fl, 26psi fr, and the two backs at 36psi. Of course the service mgr was quoted saying that all dealers use those steel, hammer on tire weights. Hmmmm, wonder why Honda uses stick on ones! Anyways, try one out before buying. I didn't! Trusted Honda's reputation for quality.
Anyone looking for a 3k 08 EX. I've got a real :lemon: Stick to Made In The Good Ole JAPAN!

emale

have you tried a road force balance on your tires?

btw, take your service manager for a ride in another '08 accord and "show" him that they don't all do that!!

elroy5

The gas pedal vibrates like, well, a vibrator, so much for drive by wire.

It's not drive-by-wire causing the vibration. My 03 has drive-by-wire and is vibration free. You either have a motor mount problem, or an engine that vibrates excessively. Maybe you need to find a better service department, with better technicians.

st1300

I shot a 7 minute video of the car's lights last night to take to honda next week when I meet with an engineer from Honda..if I don't get a satisfactory answer and repair from them I will post a link on here so you can watch the video and decide for yourself if you would buy this car...I will also order 4 eighteen inch magnetic lemon signs to put on each door and drive the car that way till they either replace it or fix it. The 6 cyl models dont have this problem. Based on what I know now about this car the answer is NO I would not buy this car if I knew in advance about the problem. You folks in the northern parts of the country are in for a surprise once spring arrives and the A/C starts being used. By the way it every outside light including tail lights and license plate lights, and if the door is open the interior lights do it also. Its a very visible flicker every 17 seconds. Even my neighbors couldn''t believe it. This will be my third trip to the dealer for the problem and if I don't get a reasonable response from them it will be my last. After that, they can come find me.

wgroper

I'd be interested in seeing your video. I haven't thought about doing that, but I think that's a great idea. I've got a digital camera that makes pretty good avi's. One question though. Did you do this with the engine idling or at an RPM consistent with highway cruise? Most of the detractors will say it doesn't matter when the engine is idling, but when traveling at highway speeds, it's a definite problem. The Accord my parents have exhibits this problem no matter what the engine RPM is.

It's sad that something like this can and is ruining the ownership experience of an otherwise outstanding automobile.

tayl0rd

...2008 Ford Mustang... I'll bet ----- a "surprisingly compliant ride" right into the borrow ditch! I wonder if the writer penned that with a straight face --...

How about going to drive one before spouting nonsense. The new Mustang is so much better than the previous ones that they are literally incomparable in every way, from drive dynamics to the stereo. I know. I've owned both (GTs). It would do any BMW short of an "M" proud. Of course, I'm speaking in terms of the GT. I've never driven a V6 Mustang. But from what I hear, even the V6 would run circles around an Accord coupe on a technical road coarse. RWD > FWD.

krwolff76

I just read your thread. Its funny cause on my way to work this morning I was thinking the same thing. I was going to put some singage on my Accord and park it on the street near the Honda dealer where I bought it. My feeling is that Honda does not want to address the issue because it will hurt sales of their new pride and joy, the 08 Accord. I have always thought Honda was the best company out there, but now I am reconsidering my position. I have had much better customer service and willingness to address issues from Hyundai, Ford, Dodge or Chevy. I have owned them all and this is the biggest joke. I guess now a car manufacture can just say a problem is an unfortunate characteristic of the car and deal with it. That is BS. It should not do this. I also have a lot of wind noise from the door handles at speeds above 50mph. The car is very nice otherwise, but these issues are very annoying. Honda wake up and take care of your customers, if not then you are going to end up like Toyota and see your reliability fall. Huh, maybe that is what you are worried about.

phantomv

Perhaps as long as the road was smooth. But as long as the Mustang has a live rear axle, it will NEVER compete with a full IRS car over typical back roads.

tayl0rd

You mean lumpy-bumpy roads like the ones on Grand Am (now Koni Challenge) road courses where the Mustang with it's solid rear axle competes and beats BMW M3s, Mazda RX8s, etc. and won the championship in its inaugural year (and the following year, IIRC)??

bug4

tayl0rd --- Please read the post I wrote. It is focused entirely on the writer of the Mustang review - not on the car and certainly not on any comparison of a front-wheel drive Accord coupe and the Mustang GT. The Mustang may be a fine car, indeed, but the Mustang review is junk!

Having said that, I do have to ask (since you brought it up) --- wouldn't you prefer to have an independent rear suspension, rather than a solid rear axle, on your GT? If it performs well now, imagine how it would do then . . . .

beedublu

I posted somewhere that I didn't like the 08 sedan as much as its predecessor. At first glance, I thought the new version looked too conservative and bulky, especially from the rear.

Now I've seen enough of them on the road to admit that this new 08 is really a good looking car, almost kind of pretty...even from the back.

tayl0rd

I did read the post you wrote, and your comment seemed more to say the reviewer was lying when he said the Mustang has a compliant ride. It, in fact, does have a very compliant ride. My '05 Mustang GT didn't step out of line in bumpy curves any moreso than my current '08 550i Sport does. In fact, I'd say my GT stepped out less than my 550i Sport. :surprise:

bug4

Point taken I have never driven a 550i Sport - although I have driven a 540i Sport. Further, I've only driven the older versions of the GT. So, I'm at your mercy! I am very surprised to hear that your GT slips less than the 550i. I assume you would prefer the 550i overall to the GT? [ Please say "yes" or you may destroy my entire psyche ----- I've always considered the 540i / 550i Sport to be the ultimate performance sedan . . . . :confuse: ]

Sorry Pat -- I'll get back on topic. . . . Where were we? Ahhh yes -- the Honda Accord . . .

thegraduate

You will not see an appreciable difference in road noise between your '04 & the '08.

Well, that's one opinion...mine differs.

I noted a difference between our 2005 EX 4 and my 2006 EX 4. I'd imagine the 2008s are even quieter.

amad1

The flickering lights and road noise is a problem. I was really considering purchasing a 08 EXL 4 cyl coupe. These reports have me reeling a bit. I'm trying to narrow it down between and 08 Honda and 06 used Infinity g35 coupe. Positive and negatives with both considerations.

thegraduate

The road noise won't change - it's either there, or not, depending on how sensitive your ears are. My 06 Accord is plenty quiet; not Lexus quiet, but I don't mind hearing what my car is doing as long as it isn't "loud" which none of these are. If you want loud, drive an 80s model Honda.