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tex08honda - you may not realize that your ipod will never charge using the 1/8" jack on the 08 Accord. Further, if you are playing music through the ipod, it will not automatically shut off when the car is turned off. The ipod will automatically shut down after its current playlist,artist,album, etc. is finished playing.
When using an ipod (or other MP3 device), the ipod is supplying a signal to the car and you are only discharging the i-pod, not the car battery. So, you can leave the device running for as long as it will run and, as long as the stereo is turned off, there will be no drain on the car's battery. Really, the ipod/mp3 interface on the 08 Accords is nothing more than an auxiliary input to the car stereo.
CR used to assume new models would be reliable if past models were, but the Toyota Camry V6 and other vehicles from brands that are normally very reliable have proven otherwise.
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Is the Accord too big and expensive for the current economic climate? Are there other factors at play here?
I'm surprised that the Accord sales didn't rise after a new design that many people were waiting for. There was a shortage of new Accords the first couple of months, but not anymore.
Now the coupes are still manufactured in low numbers, so they will be in low supply until the majority of the demand is filled shortly.
They will keep the coupe manufacturing level low because the market for coupes is much smaller than the market for 4 door sedans.
Also, look at the overall economy, that plays a huge roll too. Honda better getting to working on that strict pricing and rates!
However, 2 dealers told me today, that the lease rates are changing tomorrow!
With warmer weather coming soon, I am getting anxious. Crack open the roof, and roll down the windows, pop in a cd, and off you go! but, you know, the hard part is picking from the dull colors offered... I have not decided on which color that makes it really stand out. I thought, black on black, tint windows, spoiler. Or white, with tinted windows.
Most important failing: NHTSA rear side impact tests are not good at all.
Less important annoyances:
The car is a bit noisy on the highway for a new design.
Dash covered in a mass of confusing near identical buttons.
Stereos are weak in sound quality even on the highest trim models, but especially on the lower trims.
Rear seat folds in one piece rather than split like most other sedans.
Gooseneck hinges in trunk ready to crush your groceries.
Issues with VCM engagement being noticeable and annoying on the highway.
Ivory cloth interior is a poor, yellowish color and is the only way to get white exterior.
but all of those annoyances all pretty minor, now the VCM is another story,
that does not apply to me since I am getting the 4cyl.
I am also upgrading my stereo system in it, with Memphis Audio all the around with a matching 4ch amp. I did that to my 06, I had to, I love my music on the road!
I drive an accord, and it does have some road noise, but I kind of like it, because I feel your connected with the road. It is mainly from the tires, and stiff ride, which I like as well.
I will also get the leather, although I wish the offered the black leather on the white, its not that I don't like tan,because I do, but the black looks very sleek, and I have black interior now, and love it. It would make the white more appealing.
Good points, but all minor for me though.
Posted: 2008-02-29 21:25:16
Overall, the best cars sold in the U.S. are made by Honda. That's the conclusion of a recent analysis conducted by Consumer Reports that looks at the reliability, performance, fuel economy, comfort, interior fit and finish, and ergonomics of 262 vehicles we've recently tested.
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Honda, with an overall score of 78, is followed closely by Toyota (75) and Subaru (72). BMW, Mazda, Nissan, and Volkswagen are tied at 71, after rounding.
Theis is the "go to" guy who hears EVERYTHING service related.
I asked him if he had been hearing of VCM complaints and I got the same confused, blank I have received from our Service Advisors and Service Managers.
He had no idea what I was talking about either.
I do find it exceptionally hard to believe that American Honda has not received complaints about VCM. It may at this stage be dismissing customer concerns as either too few to warrant a fix or as coming from overly sensitive drivers. History shows time and again, however, that the successful companies recognize issues early and nip them in the bud, while unsuccessful companies stonewall and pretend there is no issue when there is. Look at what has happened to Toyota's reputation lately. I hope the same does not happen to Honda.
Exactly, they may not be receiving any more complaints about VCM, than say the lumbar support in the driver's seat. If you read the 08 VCM Accord reviews, the driver seat (lumbar support and head restraint) get more complaints than anything else. So Honda may be more concerned about fixing the seat problem, than working on the few customers with VCM issues. Some people have a problem with VCM, and some don't. But everyone seams to hate the head restraint.
No matter how great the changes are between models there are always a few people who think the older model was better.
I hear this every model change.
No.
"If not how easily can it be added to the 2008 Accord?"
Fairly easy if you know how to do installs.
That's like saying it's fairly easy to perform surgery if you're a surgeon. :confuse: Anything's "fairly easy" if you already know how to do it.
Many owners have complained that the head restraint is too far forward, and not adjustable. Others say the lumbar support, or the shape of the seat, makes it uncomfortable. The point was that owners are complaining to Honda about various problems, and the owners who complain the most, will be the one's to get the most attention. Owners who say "others have reported the problem, and brought their car to the dealership, with no resolution, so why should I waste my time bringing my car in, or contacting Honda?" Because the more owners who complain about the VCM, the higher it will be on the list of priorities at Honda.
I now believe Honda Japan is never gets the facts about these numerious problems. Here no evel, See no evel!
Hay, here is my 2 cents, don't buy a Honda. Me, never again. And that comes from a 2 Honda owner. (07 civic) (08 Accord) And this was my 9th Honda car over 20 yrs.
Funny but just today I picked up my Civic from the dealer who replaced the drivers door inside handle (broken return spring) and a new winshield wiper motor. Now it's gotta go back, as the dealer (service) screwed up the job and the wipers no stop 1/4 way up the windshield. More frustration!
From American Honda
same month sales
jan 2008 compared to jan 2007..sales of accords down -6.7%
feb 2008 compared to feb 2007..sales of accords down -12.7% with one extra selling day.. effectively doubling the loss from jan. to feb.
With a brand new model this has to have Honda wondering what they did. Anyone remember the anticipation of the new model?
Also it has been a bad winter, so it does play a roll in that, I am certainly not getting a new car in the worst weather.
This is all quite normal to an extent for a slow down, but if they do not do something soon, then they will lose people. It does make us all wonder why more people are not going after the 08. I have seen like maybe 2 so far!
But, really the numbers show the 07's had some unbelievable deals, and it was the end of the model year.
I want to buy an 08 EX-L 4cyl, navi soon, but I am not throwing my money away.
Often a new model takes awhile to build momentum and I'm sure sales will soon take off. The 1999 Odyssey was agreat example of this. they had a sluggish start and suddently we were taking orders on cars that took two months to receive.
Sorry, but the sky isn't falling.
The stock market lurches haven't helped either.
It's sleek, fast, comfortable and the headlights don't flicker. The nav and bluetooth are phenomenal. I personally like the fact that are very few around, and I appreciate the remarks from those who ask what kind of a car it is, that's a Honda, WOW what a sharp car, etc.
Not perfect, since it was made in Ohio. Gas filler door doesn't always open on the first try. Gas mileage is horrible, which I expected because I don't drive as much highway as I used to, and I like to wind 'er up.
That's it for defects.
I have told them of my plan to post a video on the web and put lemon signs on the car and send copies of the video to every major media outlet. They don't seem phased by that at all ..by Monday if nothing is taken care of the blitz will begin..
It's a shame that a company that I have given approximately 115,000 dollars to since 1984 should treat customers this way. I can afford whatever car I want, but have always been dedicated to Honda..that dedication is now gone.
It would be nice if this car had a trip computer that gave MPG readings (like my Odyssey, RL, and CR-V all do), but it doesn't do that so I need to verify at each fillup.
Please post the youtube video with your lemon sign on it
The stock tires on your Accord are 225/50 R17, which are the largest wheels/tires ever fitted on the Accord sedan. These tires require 17 x 7.5 size wheels. The previous generation 2007 Accord V6 sedan and 6speed coupe had 215/50 R17 tires, which required 17 x 7 size wheels. And prior to that (in 2006), the Accord came standard with 205/60 R16 tires, or 16-inch wheels. You can upsize the wheels and tires (plus one), but I do not believe you can interchange 17 x 7 wheels in place of 17 x 7.5 wheels, or at least pull that off in a safe manner.
Even if the 5 hole pattern may fit, you would have to go with slightly narrower tires to make it work with the 2008 Accord (215 vs. 225). You may be able to make some of the Acura wheels work, but then you'd have the caliper logos instead of the "H". For example, my 2005 RL comes with 245/50 R17, so these are same diameter but too wide for the current Accord. The current TL comes with 235/45 R17 (not as wide and a slightly shorter sidewall). Many of these switches may work, but it will change the handling characteristics (and possibly speedometer readings) on the current Accord. My recommendation is to stick with the proper wheel size and go at least the same size tires (not smaller, but you could go larger).
If you don't mind spending $1000 to $1500+, try the Tire Rack. They have lots of great aftermarket options. I'm about to order some new wheels/summer tires for my 6speed coupe. The tire pressure monitoring sensors should be interchangeable between different size wheels. Good luck.
Working on video...should be up and posted next week.
I used to commute 68 miles per day 5 days a week and put 42K on an '04 EXL V6 AT navi coupe in two years- I got about 23 MPG on that baby with probably 75 % highway driving.
I am not upset- I went back to the Accord because my commute situation changed.
And no, I'm not just saying this because I'm a 7th Gen owner and jealous of the new design. I like the designs of both 6th & 7th equally. I even like the design of the 5th Gen too.
But like others have said, the lower sales probably has more to do with the current state of economy than anything else.
Anything else wrong with your car besides the flickering lights?