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I am fortunate to have a second vehicle for winters and pulling the jetskis and my small tractor. I have a 4Runner but am considering a Hylander Hybrid, which has just enough towing capacity to pull my trailer. I'd love to have a diesel Sequoia. I'm still hoping for that to be made some day. I saw where Nissan plans to have automotive diesels in three years and I can't imagine Toyota not matching up with that.
Gripe #1: That darn climate control system. In the warmer months, if Auto is off, the recirc feature automatically comes on and makes the cabin uncomfortably humid. In the colder months, if auto is off, the darn thing blasts hot air in the cabin when you set the temp to 65. Turn it down 1 degree, and it brings in cold winter air. My wife does not like the auto feature because you don't have control over the fan speed. You cannot win with this system. I prefer 3 control knobs: 1 for fan speed, 1 for temp, and 1 for ducts. I learned my lesson. On a plus note, the Auto Climate system works quite well on trips.
Gripe #2: The stability control feature. It blinks and beeps to tell you when you're slipping. I know when I am slipping, thank you. The visual and aural indicator distracts me from keeping my eyes on the road. I don't know of a way to turn it off.
Gripe 3: The Auto dimming rear view mirror. I wish the default setting was OFF and not ON. Most times I would rather see the lights in my rear view at full illumination. Once in a while I prefer to dim it.
Gripe 4: The visor comes down too far and obstructs my view. I am unable to push it flush with the windshield.
Gripe 5: I never use the controls on my steering wheel because they are too user unfriendly. You either have to feel for the controls or look down to use them. I have a 2004 Sienna where the steering wheel controls are much more intuitive.
Gripe #6: By now you are convinced that I am a whiner. That's not usually the case. But my last gripe is on the seatbelts. Why the aural indicator? Isn't the visual one enough? There are occasions where we unbuckle temporarily and this thing beeps to high heaven. How do I turn that off?
Summing this up, the Human Factors work on this car is not what I am accustomed to on a Toyota. My 99 Camry and 04 Sienna are much kinder to the user.
Gripe#1. The auto temp control can be set to several different options by your dealer. I don't remember all of the possible settings, but I know that turning off the "default to recirc" can be changed to give you manual control of recirc or fresh air. I had this done, and it made a HUGE difference. See ToyotaiGuide.com for a list of dealer setable options. Once you configure it to your model, Click on "other features", then "customizable electronic features"
Gripe #3 I believe that the auto dimming feature can be turned off. I don't hav teh manual handy, but I remember it saying something about that. Probably camn view the manual at the above mentioned web site also.
Gripe #6. The seatbelt alarm can be disabled by the dealer also...see the above mentioned website.
I hope this helps! At least 3 of your gripes can be resolved.
Yes...see page 40 in your manual, or go here...ToyotaiGuide.com
Once you configure it to your model, Click on "keys and doors", then "smart key" it will give you directions how to change the settings..I did it to mine.
The ways of the auto climate system made little sense to me. The a/c compressor turns on automatically no matter what the temperature. It overrides airflow settings and fan speeds, etc. I find myself fiddling with settings far more than any manual system I've had.
Also, the seatbelt warning buzzer will be turned off. Hooray!
I live in the DC area, and once when I tried to merge into traffic about two months after I purchased it (the first time I had to punch it), I couldn't get the car to move fast enough. I was almost rear-ended with my three kids in the back seat.
If you are trying to come off the line, it hesitates badly. I took it to the dealer and they said there isn't anything wrong with it and that it meets Toyota's specs. We test drove a similar model and it drove better.
I told them to fix it and said it met specs. If I wasn't happy I could go through an arbitrator.
Thanks Toyota and Koons Toyota of Tyson's for making me make an expensive mistake! Never again. I suggest anyone thinking about buying this car to Google what people are saying about this car. I wish I did because there are a lot of unsatisfied 2007 Camry owners - I based my purchase on their reputation.
Now excuse me, I have to place this car on Cars.com to sell it.
Sincerely,
Not happy!
Yep, some people are displeased with the apparent lag in response of 4cyl auto transmission. Your comments are the first I've read about the manual version also having the problem.
The software is programed for maximum fuel mileage and minimum pollution, definitely not for "punching it." Given this year's record Camry sales, it looks like most people are happy with the way it works.
Then why get the 4cy???
...I couldn't get the car to move fast enough ....If you are trying to come off the line, it hesitates badly
Humm, a standard that hesitates coming off the line? Doesn't make sence. Also your first mention was "trying to punch it" while merging. Did you down shift or just give it the gas?
Sounds like you actually need an automatic tranny.
Sorry, but none of this makes any sence
Thanks
For Camry Hybrid:
Idle in neutral: 33dBA engine off; 42dBA engine on
Maximum 1st gear: 72dBA
Constant 50 mph: 62dBA
Constant 70 mph: 69dbA
As for the A/C fan it is noisy on the high settings and it irritates my wife.
Anyone visit the dealer for their answer?
It would be my first problem after six months of ownership.
Gampa
I guess they aren't ready to reveal anything yet. Maybe they are addressing 2007 owner complaints and are re-tooling some stuff.
The Alarm is unnecessarily redundant.
Louigi
It's "you're" not your. So what's your problem other than your grammar?
Never any happy endings down that path.
The original comment was made on the TCH forum by a person that doesn't even drive a TCH and this person joins the forum for one day, makes one comment with no information given. I'm just curious if they (1) have a TCH (or any Toyota)and (2) have issues with it (or any Toyota)
When the officer approached my wife to find out if she was alright, he made the comment that Toyotas must be built tough. The damage to my wife's car is minimal. The front bumper is scraped along its entire length and is slightly crooked. The hood has a dent that measures about six inches across and three inches deep. It is also off center now and touches the passenger quarter panel. Neither of the front quarter panels are damaged. None of the lights were hurt and no damage inside of the engine compartment. All in all, it's still several thousands of dollars of damage.
The perplexing part is the air bags not coming out. She hit the Blazer with her car going head first into his passenger door going 25 mph. The body shop said that it may have been due to the Blazer moving sideways to her car and the sensors were fooled. I'm wondering that all the energy of my wife's motion was absorbed into the Blazer when it moved on the wet pavement. I think that if it had been a dry day, the damage would have been worse since the Blazer would not have moved so easy and then the airbags would have deployed.
The good thing is my wife was not hurt and neither was the driver of the Blazer and that there was a cop that saw the whole accident.
I really wish I could just get the car with cloth seats and the sunroof and nav only. That would be a happy compromise.
Thanks for any replies.
Peggy
Enjoy the car... I do.
As to the sunroof, make sure headroom is adequate for any tall drivers. It was a no-go for me.
Good luck.
Having said that, I have been using the feel of the accelerator and occasionally the analog mpg as a gauge. You can feel when the engine is about to kick on from the accelerator. This is probably safer that keeping my eye anywhere other than the road. If I need to know how I am doing per trip, I use the stats before and after the trip to figure out my mileage. Its a little bit more work but what the heck, it beats paying 3000 more in sticker price. We dont care for leather or the NAV functionaility so the decision was easy for us. BTW, GreenHybrid.com has a post on DIY back-up camera that display image on the NAV unit like in the prius. Very cool!IMO, I dont think the NAV unit will add that much to resale value. The leather, sunroof, maybe.
If you plan to get the 2008, can't you order one with the specs you want?
I use it all the time. However, only you know your level of committment to maximizing FE and if you're just not "into it" then buy the stippped one. But if you are the type of woman that knows how to program a VCR then the NAV may be for you!
Whatever you buy, I'm sure you'll be happy. It's a great car!
tom
Btw, as long as your phone is setup to your TCH, I find that you can dial from your phone and when a connection is established, the voice exchange goes to through the bluetooth automatically. Now that is also sweet and in essence dialing from a screen but from that on my phone rather than the nav.
Peggy
I have taken several long (1500+ miles) trips since I bought my 2007 TCH in June 2006, and with proper planning and logistical arrangement, I have never had a problem getting everything for four people into the trunk.
I have packed it so well that once my Grandmother, after seeing the half room of stuff I unpacked from that trunk and then viewing the empty trunk, commented "I can't believe you got all that stuff in that trunk."
It's deceptively larger than it looks.
Honestly speaking, I think that if the smallish trunk size can be the deciding factor, then I don't think the car is right for you. You are not seeing the entire vehicle but are looking at one minor shortcoming which can be easily overcome with some good planning.
Can't comment on the leather since I bought the base model.