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Newest Tacoma has Limited Slip??

clint42clint42 Posts: 10
edited March 2014 in Toyota
Am purchasing Toyota Tacoma Truck. One dealer
we talked to mentioned that the 4 x 4 with the TRD
option had a "limited slip". Is that true??
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  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Posts: 283
    If it is a 2000, then the dealer must be on LSD. It has a rear locker. I am 99.9% sure this salesperson does not know wha they are talking about.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    If a dealer is offering a LSD it is an aftermarket one and he is removing the Locking Rear Diff, from the TRD package, to do it. Your dealer is most likely ignorant to the differences between the two differentials...

    -wsn
  • clint42clint42 Posts: 10
    Thank you for your responses. I checked back with the Toyota agency in Garden Grove, CA, and the salesman assured me that they do, indeed, have the limited slip on their new Toyota 4x4's. They are still on the back lot, he said, awaiting detailing. If they do exist, I would like to see them for myself; but we live quite far from the agency. We were planning to go in today, but called around instead. If it seems advisable, we will go in tomorrow. If a Tacoma WERE available with a limited slip, would you want to special order it with a locking rear differential? The salesman I spoke to stated that it would be possible. Would the two be compatible? As far as I have been able to determine, if you had to choose between the two, you would want the locker. (We plan to do some off-roading with a small {TC700 Northstar} cab-over camper.)
    How do you feel about it?

    Carorder.com also has a limited slip listed as a component of their 4x4 off-road Tacoma; or at least they did the last time I checked (this morning). When we tried to order, the truck they located for us had the locker. What do you think we should do?

    Thanks.
  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Posts: 283
    I would still be VERY sceptical. I have been doing alot of research about my y2k TRD both before and after I purchased it in December and have heard nothing about the LSD. I will post this question to some much more knowledgable people then myself and get back to you. I have heard stories of dealers telling people looking at 4Runners that the cosmetic cowl hood was to force air into the turbocharger. There is no turbocharger for the 4runner that would be installed at the factory or dealer. The hood is purely cosmetic. I have several friends in various types of sales. They all tell me that they lie on a daily basis to make a sale or get someone into the dealership. I will see what I can find out.
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Posts: 1,102
    A LSD would probably be more preferable than a locker for your use. A LSD is always active. Without the locker engaged, you've got an open axle. And, the locker is only supposed to be used up to 5mph and only in a straight line (no turning w/o serious wheel hop). The LSD will really help in poor weather conditions (rain, snow, etc...) in addition to off-road.

    If you're doing any really hard-core off-roading, you would want the locker hands down. But, this doesn't sound like the case.

    I think the salesman is full of BS. He probably doesn't know the difference between a locker and a LSD.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Go with the LSD. The locker Toyota offers is a sales gimmick. Lockers are only to be used at crawling speeds and in a straight direction. A limited slip is always available, unlike the locker which is an open axle until engaged. Limited slip helps with towing, hauling, and just plain traction on wet or gravel roads. A locker is not.
    Frankly, this is the first I have heard of a Limited slip being offered by Toyota. About time.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Carorder.com and a few of the invoice services incorrectly identify the locker as a limited slip. There is no LSD available for any Toyota truck. Sorry to burst your bubble on this but you are the victim of an ignorant salesman. I sell these things in VA and can say definitively that no such beast exists.
  • clint42clint42 Posts: 10
    We went back, to the dealership in Garden Grove on Tuesday. Yes, they had a limited slip; but they couldn't find it on the lot or in their computer. So much for that wild goose chase! Thanks, everyone, for answering this question for us in your inimitable style. You I can trust! It's 'all clear' now for the carorder.com. order.

    Until next time,

    Clint
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    You know that carorder.com can't get one with the LSD either right? That is a misprint in their page and the people there have less knowledge than the dealership does.
  • clint42clint42 Posts: 10
    We held up our order with carorder.com to straighten out the LSD thing. Now that that's settled, we can proceed. Having read your discussions regarding the unavailability of the LSD, I was surprised by the three references to the limited slip--one at each of two separate dealerships, and one at carorder.com. Had to check it out. The truck they have waiting for us is an SR5 4x4 V6 with the TRD package. It has the lockers. Thanks for your concern.

    Someone mentioned in passing that he couldn't wait until the new blowers came out in February. I have wondered what he was talking about. Coolers of some sort. I thought he was talking about the Tacoma--I could be wrong.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The old term for a supercharger was blower. This is available now for the V6 Taco. It boosts the horsepower to around 285 and does not affect your warranty. It costs around $3K so you better really want it.
  • clint42clint42 Posts: 10
    Thank you for the info. Guess we don't need a blower. Now have a larger vocabulary. Thanks!!
  • smcpherrsmcpherr Posts: 114
    Question for ya... Are the Tacoma's V6s affected by the head gasket issue? I have been hearing rumors that problem is still around. Only rumors, I know, and probably perpetuated by us non-Toyota people, but I still would like to know. Reason being, the blower, while it is covered by the engine warranty, increases the pressure in the cylinders and would hasten the demise of the headgasket. Am I to guess that a supercharger being offered means the head gasket issue has been resolved?
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Not a rumor. I have a friend who owns a 3.4 TRD 4x4 and his blew about 2 months ago. He and I have a friendly skirmish between Ford/Toyota. He didn't want me to know his headgasket blew, he was trying to hide it from me! You can ask anyone in the Ranger vs TAcoma room and they will vouch for me that this happended about 2 months ago.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    Carorders price for the LSD is the same price as everybody elses quote for the locker. Point being that the carorder people goofed and Toyota DOES NOT offer a LSD on the Tacoma. Anybody who tells you otherwise is ignorant of the facts.

    Head Gasket: Hey look it's Vince stirring up trouble in a non Ford room. Hey Vince i do not beleive that your friends 98 or newer TRD Tacoma blew his head gasket. I will eat my words if you provide this board with his VIN # and we can then verify this as a fact or not...

    -wsn
  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Posts: 283
    I dont know what I said but someone did not like it. I guess you get censored in these discussions for actually talking about trucks
  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Posts: 283
    maybe Head Gasket is a bad word somewhere
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Wsn, doesn't like the TRUTH, just like the Tacoma finishing LAST in the crash tests. www.crashtest.com, www.carpoint.msn.com! Keep twisting those numbers, and justifying your own logic, truth hurts huh?? The headgasket issue does still exist, surf the net and you will find the truth folks.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    We have not seen any recurring problems with head gaskets since the '98 model year. We still see some in the '96 and '97s but most have already been done. They are being covered up to 100K miles.
  • rsmtomrsmtom Posts: 28
    Well, I am one of the Toy owners who has experienced the head gasket failure problem. However, my truck is a '90, with the original V6. Gaskets were replaced in the Spring of '95 at 100,000 miles--no cost to me, and no bitching, wining, or lawsuit threats required. Three years later (early '98), I got a card from Toyota notifying me about the head gasket campaign. I thought they had goofed, as I had already had the service done. Turned out that they were notifying me about the release of a revised gasket design. So, I went ahead and let them do it, even though I was having no problem. It cost me nothing, and I got a free rental car during the repair. Great thing is that I had put another 99,000 miles on the truck since the first repair. A nine-year-old truck with 199,000 miles, and Toyota handled everything at their cost--that, my friends, is customer service. Would I buy a V6 Taco? You bet! Am looking at them right now. After 10 years and 213,000 miles, I'm in the mood for a new 4X4. No question about the quality and reliability of the Toy's--they are as good as it gets in the truck world. Now, if you want some fun reading about real head gasket problems, go over to the "Maintenance & Repair" Conference and check out the FORD Windstar topic. Poor people there seem to be the minivan cousins of the unfortunate Exploder victims. Always remember, "Quality is Job 1".
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    Since were speaking about the truth why don't we get down to it. What is your friends VIN # so we can see if it really is by the recall and has been acknowleged by Toyota.

    Also i never doubted the results of the crashtests i just asked which model they tested, but instead of being MR TRUTHFUL, you avoid the question as usuall. Your reply will most likely avoid this spost as well and that will just prove my point further...

    -wsn
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    WSN, I asked my friend for his VIN# and he laughed. He said I am taking this chat room way too seriously. Well he said no way, he did not want to realease any information like that to people he didn't know. (Smart in my book).
    WSN, I really wish there were some way I could prove to you that his headgasket did blow on his Tacoma.
    I am glad to see you are finally coming to grips that your Tacoma performs terribly in crash tests.
    As stated, what does it matter 4x4 or 4x2? You don't choose what is going to hit you. Fact is at www.crashtest.com and www.carpoint.msn.com both give Tacoma's the lowest crash test ratings in their class.
  • mviglianco1mviglianco1 Posts: 283
    You may not be able to choose what hits you but the people who perform the crash tests can. They use the same "smasher" on all tests so the point at which it impacts the test vehicle will be relatively higher then the frame on a lower vehicle and closer to the frame on a higher vehicle.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    Then maybe your "Friend" and his alleged "Tacoma" will use one of the many VIN # search engines on the net and post what it shows, just blank out the last few digits of the VIN. Or maybe you could make a copy of some sort of paperwork from Toyota that shows that this happened and that also shows the year of his truck. Send it to CP. I bet he'll post it for us. I still don't believe that his ride is a 98 or newer and has the headgasket problem.

    As far as coming to grips with the crash tests, i never doubted your sites info. As any intelligent human being could understand from my posts. What i would like to see are the results when they hit a 4x4 Tacoma. Any average joe can understand that when you change a varible in an equation that the results of that equation may/will be different. Would this same object stike lower on a 4x4 and be less likely to impact the door as much? Who knows, but this is what a test using a 4x4 Tacoma could show. Even your smart enough to realize this line of thought. And as far as carpoint goes, i'm with spoog on this one. You except everything about their reviews or you except nothing. I can except their reviews of both!

    Can You?

    Facts, not Fiction
    -wsn
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    As you do with carpoint, you only except the information that you feel is relevant and favors the Tacoma.
    I know it happened, he knows it happened. His headgasket blew no doubt about it.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Posts: 1,352
    Somebody please explain the VIN# paranoia. I know Meredith said it wasn't a good idea to post Vin #'s but I still don't get it. The VIN is right on the dashboard of every newer vehicle. If somebody is that unscrupulous as to use a VIN for something bad they could go to any parking lot and get one (a VIN) What exactly can one do with a VIN anyway? I swear I'm not being a smart [non-permissible content removed] I just don't get it.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    I question whether or not Vince's "Friend" has a 98 or newer tacoma and that he blew his headgasket. I asked him to show proof, with a VIN being a way to show ownership. And with that VIN anybody can contact Toyota to see if it was truly affected. In a nut shell Vince consistantly brings this headgasket still a problem on 98 and newer issue up, but is not willing to back up his statement. I guess i'm just busting on him because he is constanly all over eveybody else to back up there statements, but is not willing to do the same.

    Good enough for the goose....
    -wsn
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    Pros

    1. REPUTATION Toyota pickups are known for their impressive reliability and durability, which explains their higher-than-average resale value.

    2. QUALITY Fit and finish are topnotch, of course.

    3. PERFORMANCE The 2.7-liter 4-cylinder (which comes in 4x4 Tacomas) and 3.4-liter V6 really pump out the power.

    4. HANDLING Rear-wheel-drive models behave like cars.

    5. CAPABILITY Four-wheel-drive Tacomas' off-road prowess is a cut above.

    6. FUEL EFFICIENCY The 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine is very frugal.

    7. RIDE COMFORT The Xtracab is quite roomy and the bench seat is nicely contoured.

    Cons

    1. SAFETY Tacomas received low marks from NHTSA in collision tests.

    2. PRICE Tacomas are often more expensive than equivalent competitors.

    3. TORQUE The DOHC V6 is a bit lacking here.

    4. BRAKES Emergency stopping distances are long and the Tacoma's path can be erratic without ABS.

    5. CHOICES More limited than is the case with Ford and Chevrolet. Where are the extra doors?

    6. REAR SEATS Being an acrobat or a contortionist is very helpful in getting to the Xtracab's rear seats; there's not a lot of room once you get there.

    7. ROADHOLDING The high center of gravity of 4x4s make curves dicey; the Xtracab's length and wide turning radius make tight maneuvers nearly impossible

    I accept every line of this! Do you accept every line of this
    Pros

    1. RELIABILITY Owner satisfaction comes from this truck's dependability and tried-and-true features. The Ranger is known for its solid build and excellent fit and finish, which really add to its appeal and value.

    2. ON THE ROAD The front suspension is much less sensitive to road faults than the previous setup. Steering is much more accurate.

    3. MANUAL TRANSMISSION It's easy to use thanks to its smooth, accurate shifter.

    4. V6 ENGINES They offer terrific hauling and trailering capabilities. We consider them the best engine choices.

    5. EXTENDED CAB SuperCabs are equipped with two rear doors.

    6. NICE FEATURES: Windshield wipers that sweep a large area at a good clip; bucket seats and a 60/40 split-bench seat that offer good support.

    Cons

    1. PERFORMANCE The 2.5-liter engine is fine for light tasks, but nothing more. The V6 engines are real gas guzzlers.

    2. RIDE COMFORT These pickups are built to get the job done, not pamper passengers. With an empty bed the ride is bouncy.

    3. BRAKES With rear-wheel drive there's only rear-wheel ABS. A full load in the bed can overpower them.

    4. HANDLING The base Ranger has a soft suspension and undersize tires, while 4WD Rangers have the opposite handicap; its suspension is too hard and tires are too big. In either case, handling leaves much to be desired.

    5. STEERING Much too slow. The wide turning radius really hampers maneuverability.

    6. 4-WHEEL DRIVE It's rather crude and isn't as versatile as the automatic all-wheel drive in the Explorer.

    7. FUEL CONSUMPTION The V6s burn a lot of gas.

    8. NO V8 If only the Ranger were powered by a V8 engine just like the Dodge Dakota.

    9. POOR FEATURE The rudimentary bench seat in low-end trims. It provides no lateral or lumbar support whatsoever.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Opinions, everyone has one.
    most of all my friend who owns the Toyota knows it happened, me being a Ford owner knows it happend. My friend knowing I am a Ford owner tried to hide it from me knowing I would give him a hard time about his headgasket. This leads me to wonder how many other Toyota owners mask problems in surveys and with friends. Embarrased because all Toyota's are supposed to be perfect up to 1 billion miles and such.
  • allknowingallknowing Posts: 866
    One of you statements doesn't make any sense. How can the V6 Tacoma "really pump out the power" as you put it and at the same time be lacking in torque? Torque is essentially power delivered rotationally. Maybe you meant to say that the V6 doesn't have the torque that other engines produce with similar horsepower. It can't have lots of power and then be lacking in power?????
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