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Very true about V8, it is loaded with salt. Even the new low salt V8 juice has way more salt than necessary. Restaurant food is loaded with salt because it is a cheap way to make food taste better. If you weigh yourself the next day you will gain a pound or two just because of the water you retain in order to balance with the amount of salt you consumed.
Orange juice is probably not as great a drink as we think. It is loaded with sugar and probably has about 150 calories in a glass. You would actually be better off drinking a glass of no calorie water. What we do now is pour about 1/2 to 1 inch of orange juice into a glass and the rest is water. That way you get your ascorbic acid (so you won't get scurvy), but you won't get all that sugar.
If you want to lose weight you have to eat under 2500 calories a day. To lose one pound you have to lose about 3000 calories. 2500 calories is not a lot, that is pretty well just eating basic food. Having 2 glasses of water a day instead of 2 glasses of OJ will knock off a pound in 10 days.
Two medium size cookies could have 300 calories. You would have to run for about 2 hours to burn that off. I look at the cookie and say which do I want more
Also, that juice drink might sound like a substitute for a good breakfast, but you might get hungry by 10:30 then go for a muffin or more food. Better to eat oatmeal or one or two eggs, and water with a bit of OJ in it, and a coffee, so you get some enjoyment from breakfast.
Blah, but it is the only solution to weight control as we get older, have to change our habits.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Actully in my case, "blending".
I didn't know it wasn't a good thing to mix fruit and vegetables!
Isell, I would suggest reading a few other websites first....a more medical related one first before accepting that as being accurate. I posted it, then I deleted it because I think that should be investigated further before accepting it....then I put it back on because Richard saw it before I deleted it.
Blending or juicing is a good way to get your vitamins and minerals if you don't mind doing the work. I would look at a more scientific website because mixing fruits and vegetables might be fine. That is a very "natural pathic" website and what they say might not be accurate, like the need to use organic fruits and vegetables.
Just take it with a grain of salt....oh no, don't do that, that is really bad for you!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Thats why I prefer my juice in its natural container. I rarely drink OJ but I eat oranges like crazy.
If you want to lose weight you have to eat under 2500 calories a day.
A bit of a falsehood there, You can gain weight eating under 2500 calories a day and you can lose weight eating over 3500 calaries a day. You only lose weight if you burn off more calories than you take in. Become more active and you will lose weight without eating less.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I would seriously question that. That would mean that if I had some vegetables I would have to wait for them to be digested in my system before I could eat any fruit and Visa Versa (Hey I got a car in there somehow).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
You are right on that. With the help of our host I was able to conclude it is a 2006 CLS-500 (last year for the 500). Original MSRP somewhere between $80-85K. Edmunds says private party value of about $29K. That's some hit.
Still, it would be more than a fair trade for my 2008 Eclipse with an Edmunds valuation of about $15K.
Next time she shows up I'll offer her a test drive in the Mitsu and see if we can close the deal.
I also will explore the possibility of having her father adopt me since he seems very generous with his children. I could be her very,very older brother. :shades:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I do know that juicing raw fruits and vegtables sure beats cooking all of the vitamins out of them.
The pasturized stuff we buy at the store is even worse.
One caution, wash your fruit and veggies well, especially if you use organic produce. True organic produce uses an lot of animal manure in it's production which can contain harmful bacteria like e-coli. There have been some nasty food poisionings caused by unwashed organics. :sick:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I will say, on the advise of a friend, I recently bought some organic bananas and they definatly tasted better than the "blah" ones from Costco.
A placebo effect maybe?
Richard
That's it! High fat = lots of calories.
Also, high high carbs, as in white bread, sugar= more carbs.
Cut back on those two things and you have a good chance of lowering your weight.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The one thing that organic foods don't have are pesticides and hormones. We usually buy organic milk and eggs (no hormones) and fruits/vegetables that you don't peel (pesticides).
Things that you peel (bananas for example) we don't buy organic. Maybe some pesticides still seep into the fruit, but most probably don't.
On topic: we drive to buy our organic and non-organic food.
If you're really interested in the low fat products, here are a few that were successful for us:
Snack Well cookies---only the chocolate; not the vanilla. Would you believe zero fat? They are really delicious. Pecan Swirls were good with very little fat.
Low fat Lance cheese crackers and Toasties---you can't tell the difference from the regular crackers.
Low fat Miracle Whip dressing---really tasty.
Shrimp salad and baked fish---lots of ways to fix them with lemon juice, red pepper, bay leaf, etc. Salmon patties baked with onion, crushed Wheat Thins, and one egg to hold the six patties together. Drain your juice first. Same with sardines.
Fresh steamed vegetables---eat all you want.
Sodas---Zero Coke or Pepsi; fresh brewed tea with lemon and mint, but no sugar.
Milk---1% because it tastes better than skim milk.
Sandwich bread---a good wheat variety, but read the labels. Some have less fat than others.
Ice cream---there are some brands which make low fat flavors. Some are good and some are not. Just experiment.
Bananas---eat one a day to keep up your potassium level.
Beef---We did a 98% fat free beef pattie once or twice a week.
White rice---help yourself---zero fat (No gravy!)
Yogurt---eat all of the low fat flavors that your heart desires. Try the yogurt ice cream.
Breakfast---bran flakes, toast with just a hint of margarine, coffee plain, and a small glass of your favorite juice.
One major rule: Keep the frying pan put away!
You'll find many other things as you shop. At first, it took us forever in the grocery store because we had to read all of the labels. After two or three trips, it became easy to pick up what we needed. You won't be hungry and I'm sure that you will lose weight. Check your weight only once a week and record the date and pounds. After a while, you'll get nice surprises each week. You will lose slowly, but you'll keep it off. Good luck, and keep me posted.
Richard
Well there goes my reason for living.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
What a great list and I am getting hungry. . There's lots of good things on that list, enough to keep you going, without starving.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
That is probably a good thing, but I don't know how you can really tell if something is actually organic, even if they say it is.
And pesticides and hormones don't sound nice, but I am not sure there is any real evidence they are actually that bad. I stress "real" because the organic people want you to believe those things are bad. If we only grew organic food, food costs would soar, and there wouldn't be enough food to feed us all.
Here is what one site said about hormones and antibiotics:
Antibiotic-free Antibiotics are not administered to hens unless they are ill, because it would interfere with egg laying.
Hormone-free All egg production is hormone-free, whether the carton states it or not. Now growth hormones are given to egg-laying chickens, because hormones would affect a hen's laying cycle.
And this about pesticides:
In the meat and dairy aisles, organic choices are less straightforward. Beef, poultry, eggs and milk rarely have pesticides,
eggs and antibiotics and hormones
eggs and pesticides
It depends on who you read and who you trust for the right information. Since all eggs are hormone free, it is really a scare tactic to advertise that a sellers eggs are hormone free.....as if non organic eggs would have hormones.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
We usually get our stuff from Wholefoods. I trust them that the stuff they say is organic is really organic.
I am not sure there is any real evidence they are actually that bad.
Completely agree, but better safe than sorry.
I also forgot about antibiotics. Those in over abundance are bad.
Before seeing this, my wife & I had already decided to eat more fish & less red meat this year. Luckily for me, she's a superb cook.
Once again, beaucoup thanks for this excellent, field-tested advice. This almost pays for my Edmunds subscription!
Since your wife is an excellent cook, she'll enjoy experimenting with the fish dishes. There are so many kinds and so many ways to prepare them.
I owed this to you. You were one of my main instructors on car sales negotiations. On my last three cars, you have saved me several thousand dollars. I'll even pay your Edmunds dues for the new year. :P
Richard
i can understand it. Being a Southern cook. it was difficult to give up fried chicken, pork chops, ribs, corn bread, etc. I do cheat some now. :shades:
Richard
For me, if I eat foods containing this, I better stay near the bathroom for the next day.
Since I'm a diabetic, well meaning people buy me 'goodies' with the FAT FREE and LOW/NO SUGAR labels. I then throw these things away.
An on-topic remark for this off-topic message. I need to hook up the trickle charger to the sports car with the snow coming in tomorrow. Already got a little down, but more is coming.
What does that taste like - I like peanutbutter and chocolate ice cream?
Richards diet makes lots of sense, it is easy to follow if you can avoid the foods with fats. They surveyed people in a grocery store and very few actually read the labels.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
We're having our second snow of the season---4 inches expected today in this part of North Carolina. The dreaded part comes tonight and tomorrow---ICE. That's what does us in here in the South. We lose power and fools try to drive in it. I don't even do 4 wheel drive in ice. I stay put and turn on the gas logs.
Richard
I am sure you can trust Wholefoods, they won't blow their reputation by selling non-organic food if it is supposed to be organic.
but better safe than sorry.
Agree, but we should try to learn as much as possible about this topic. Many people assume that because they pay twice as much that organic food is better. It might be grown organically, but I don't think there is any scientific proof that the actual food is better for you in any way. Being safe rather than sorry makes sense, and I am sure organic farmers like to make that case. They might be right, or they might not be, it hasn't been proved either way, but buying organic probably can't hurt....just wash your food very carefully.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The fat replacement in those foods does not absorb while in the intestines. It remains as an oil or fat. Sort like taking a laxative. The early versions of fat free potato chips caused flu-like cramping.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
People have a hard time realizing that those 4 wheel drive vehicles really can't stop any better than 2 wheel drive. Once you hit the brakes all bets are off. You are better off to just stay out of the way if you can.
That was a good list of fat free stuff. Thanks for posting it.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
That’s a good list you put out there. We have been doing this same type of thing for quite a while and it does work.
I can especially vouch for the Lite Miracle Whip thing too. The regulars have probably heard me mention Mrs. jmonroe’s potato salad on occasion. The first time she made it with the lite was an experiment on the two of us because she had been asked to make it for an upcoming cookout as usual and she said. “I don’t know how this is going to taste but we better start doing something about our fat intake. If it’s no good I won’t make it like this again”. I couldn’t tell the difference. When we went to the cookout a couple of weeks later, people said, “you sure do know how to make good potato salad, that’s why you’re always ask to bring it”. When she told them that it had the lite Miracle Whip no one believed her.
As far as weight goes she does a better job at this than I do. She’s all but given up pizza. Now that’s going waaay too far for me. When she eats pasta it’s always the whole wheat variety, which I can endure at times, but I get my regular pasta most of the time. I grew up in a neighborhood that had it’s share of Italians and they spoiled me so that has been a favorite food of mine for a long time. I’ve always had Italian friends (I don’t know what I’ve ever done to deserve that :confuse: ) and their wives have taken the same approach to cooking as Mrs. jmonroe (must be watching the same cooking shows) and you otta hear them when they are served some of the low carb past dishes. :mad:
One major rule: Keep the frying pan put away!
Great idea. That will make the ‘jipster' and I very happy.
The best way to go about this weight/fat thing is do it in moderation. If you jump off the deep end it will only be temporary.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
And what is worse?
With the Microsoft updates, yes, it is mainly a connection speed issue. I live in a rural area with no high speed connections available (except by satellite at $100 per month), so if I leave the Windows system on "automatic" updating, it will decide to update at the very moment when I can least afford to have it highjack the system to update. I have switched it to "let me decide when to update" and it will give me a message every day that I should check for updates. Should I choose not to check for several days, it will disengage my anti virus software. Should there be a large update, and it seems that there is several every week, then I have to transport the laptops to my office in the city and use the high speed connection to update.
I have been using Microsoft products almost since the day they came out and with each version, I am less and less impressed and it is now to the point of actually frustrating. This morning, for no apparent reason, my Outlook Express stopped working. Windows had to search for a solution and had to re-install the software.
Thank you to all who have suggested other operating systems. I will check them out to see how they will work.
Randy
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Depending on who you listen to, snow up to 6 inches is expected here Tuesday night. Went to Costco yesterday and spent over 200.00 on food and other things.
I could use your recipe for that soup. Sounds good!
The pesticide vs. organic debate is a very emotional one and subject to distortions on both sides. I have a pesticide license for my farm but I hardly ever use chemicals. I use a system of monitoring the level of insects and damage and only use pesticides when needed and then I use a product which has a low residual (that means it breaks down to inert substances quickly). Most growers do this today because pesticides are expensive. The days of just blanket spraying has been over for decades.
The funny thing is that the word "pesticide" can have any meaning someone wants to put on it. There are many pesticides that are less toxic to people than table salt and some "certified organic" products that would burn a hole right through your hand if you spilled it.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
For veggie beef soup, I thrown in a bunch of things that go in vegetable beef soup.
I usually buy the 16-bean dry soup mix, just for extra flavor. I only use about 1/3 cup of the beans, soak 'em overnight.
Brown some beef (ground or stew meat, whatever's available). Throw it in a pot with some frozen mixed vegetables, worchestershire sauce, a beef bouillon cube. Add some water. Throw it on the stove on low for a few hours.
I add whatever else is around and sounds good - sometimes some red wine makes it in, diced tomatoes, garlic... today I wanted tomatoes and didn't have any, so I added some tomato juice and a couple of spoons of mild salsa. Really, if you have the veggies, a bouillon cube, and the beef, you can't go wrong. Anything else is just added flavor or nutrition.
I'm a big fan of recipes that you really can't mess up. Our easy-peasy take-off on jambalaya (which we had last night) is a family fave and takes all of 5 minutes to prep. That's what I'M talking about!
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Once in awhile, I'll make Craig's Famous Clam Chowder
Three cans of Progresso Clam Chowder
One large can of chopped clams
1/2 an onion
Chopped celery
Chopped carrots
Chopped up bacon, cooked.
A bit of worchester sauce.
Cook until vegtables are tender and you're done!
Even better heated up the next day!
Keeping this car related...I once brought a large pot of this into work and it lasted about five minutes!
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Good luck with the bad weather. I hope that it is not as bad for all of you as they are predicting.
My sister, the doctor, went too far with the low fat. One day, I took her into an ice cream shop and ordered her a banana split. I said, "Eat this and get a grip." She had become anemic looking. She's now back to normal---watching the low fat but being realistic.
Richard
I can't answer your question about the chemicals. The fat free chips taste good and have never made us ill. I try to watch the fat and sodium content in foods---except for V8
I'm just guessing, but I would think that the fat content would be worse than the chemicals. I'm basing that on the fact that over weight people tend to have more health problems. I could be all wet about that mode of thinking.
Richard
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I do pound cakes my way. It says "pound" so I use a pound of every thing---butter, flower, shortening, etc. No complaints yet. I read cook books, but I don't use them in the kitchen. I can't cook and read a book at the same time.
Richard
What flowers do you use..... :P :P
Sorry, I just had to!
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
As soon as the truck comes in, I'll post a photo. The blue flame colour is the bright blue. Glad to do it, but note that the truck is not expected in until late February.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Icon I6L Golf Cart
Well, it was bound to happen. I turned 60 today.....
Lousy doctor appointment - they had to postpone chemo because my white count is low. I now go up for shots the next several days to get that count back up so they can do the other stuff. :mad: As always I consider this a temporary bump. I've been right every time up til now so....
Maybe Richard will but me a car and I'll feel better. That would keep this on topic as well.
I was never good at muti-tasking either.
FWIW, I went to Bed Bath and Beyond yesterday to get that masher that ‘graph’ got but the one near us didn’t have that model. Maybe that’s because it isn’t within sight of the Paneras near us, it’s about a mile down the road. :confuse: Anyway, I forgot to take the model number with me and they had one that cost $150 (before the 20% off coupon price) and since they only had one and I wasn’t sure of the model I bought it. When I got home I knew for sure it wasn’t the right model. I called them about the suggested model and they said they didn’t carry it but to bring back what I bought and they would order it for me and have it delivered to my home and they would apply the 20% discount for me when they did the ordering. They seem to be cooperative people.
I sure hope that gizmo is worth the effort. Prior to going to get it I bought 10 pounds of oranges at Sam’s Club. Since I was all geared up (car thing) for the real stuff I used an old electric squeezer that we had. Man, that fresh squeezed OJ is waaaay better than the stuff at the supermarket. I hope the vegetable concoctions are half as good.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I'll add 2% milk until it thins out a bit.
Now, stay healthy, dammit!