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I'm now the proud owner of a 1988 GMC Vandura van. (I like that name, Vandura, sounds like something from the future).
Sad to say, the 85' Ford F-150 was getting a little tired. I knew the end was near when the two front wheels started fighting to go in different directions. This was confirmed when I noticed something dragging under the cab and it turned out to be the brace where the seat belt was anchored. Couldn't justify thousands in repairs. The old girl went to the scrap yard with 269,562 miles on her.
Anywho, I found the van at my neighbor's down the road. In pretty good shape for such and old vehicle. 121K miles but with a new motor 23K miles ago. Almost brand new by my standards.
The guy wanted $1000, I offered $950 but by the time we got done swapping stories and comparing friends and relatives we had in common he gave it to me for $900. (Yeah, I know jmonroe and jipster, you think I paid too much) The way I figure it, I got a decent farm vehicle for half what it would cost to fix the truck and I now have a new friend to boot.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Richard
My sister went to med school (after teaching med school, she also has her PHD in Physiology) and all she cam afford is a Ford pickup truck.
Yeah if her Malpractice insurance wasn't in the 6 digit range and if the government and insurance companies fail to pay her in a reasonable time frame maybe she could afford more.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
They made CRV's with 5 speeds but they were such poor sellers that they dropped them. As used cars, 5 speed Escapes are saleproof.
Marginally quieter, I agree but Honda has done "something" to the 2010's that have reduced road noise. Not sure what they did.
Wanna talk about resale value?
I'm glad you're back buddy but you have GOT to get rid of those smokes!
I know...I've never been a smoker so I can't relate but seriously, it's time to quit!
Way ta go. The guy gives you a better price than you asked for and now you’re going to give him a “boot”? :confuse:
You must have learned that from the guys in the biz. Then again, maybe you didn’t read the first chapter of ‘jipster’s' book but some how you know you were had.
Good luck with your new beast.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Off topic, but my son is making noises as he approaches graduation here in a few months that he MIGHT not want the Accord I've got set aside for him. He's in love with the Genesis Coupe.
As I told him, I thought I was being generous with the Accord as a graduation present. If he goes for the Genesis Coupe, it will be on his dime. I'll keep the Accord for myself.
I just don't want him to go into debt immediately after graduation. But, he's heard me preach fiscal responsibility, over and over and over, again. Sometimes they just have to find out for themselves.
Ding, ding, ding!
Sometimes it hurts when you run head first into that brick wall. Kids gotta learn on their own.
Richard, my dad quit smoking about 8 years ago - cold turkey! He developed a cold one winter and couldn't shake it; he suspected that the cigarettes were making it harder for him to get healthy, so he quit.
He did, however, replace the habit by taking Sen-Sens. It allowed him to have something to do with his hands.
I surely hope that you can find a way to quit.
Just curious. How did you come across this van, and what made you interested enough to take a look? Did you call first, or do country folks just wander up the drive and drop in?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I drive by his house all the time and I've seen it sitting in his drivway for years. One day it had a for sale sign on it. I wandered up the driveway and checked it out then went home and called him to set up a test drive.
In NY you can pretty much wander on anyone's property because not a lot of people own guns anymore. Also, in NY if you trespass or break into a house and get shot, you can sue and win.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I’d say you were being very generous. I never did that for my sons. Putting a wing on a building at Penn State was all I could bear.
It’s a shame your son is turning into a Hyundai geek. Terrible thing for such a young guy too. I can only imagine the problems you’re going to have with him down the line.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Just saw a Hyundai ad that made me really wonder.
Attractive woman sees a Hyundai parked on the road.
She really likes it (I think it is an Elantra, so this is really hard to believe) so
she knocks it with her hip, and the alarm goes off.
Handsome young guy comes running out of office building to see why his
alarm went off.
He sees the attractive young woman and she apologises for being clumbsy.
He asks her name, etc etc. and we are led to believe this will lead to something.
Voice over talks about how smart people buy Hyundais........
Warning: This will never happen in real life!
Hey, JMonroe, has this ever happenned to you?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Warning: This will never happen in real life!
Hey, JMonroe, has this ever happenned to you?
All the time but I have a Genny so you CAN believe it.
Just don't tell Mrs.jmonroe. She might suspect this is why I really bought that beauty. :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Richard
Don't forget my post on comparing the advantages and disadvantages between the CRV and the Pilot. Inquiring minds want to know. Even after that accident 8 years ago, she wants another Honda. We agree that the gust of wind was more to blame than anything else.
Richard
Richard
i'll see your features and raise you 1 resale value?
the cr-v does have fine resale value, but they cost more up front.
overall, the cr-v does have the advantage in resale, but maybe not as much as it seems based on new purchase price.
here in new england there are plenty of both.
when the current iteration of the cr-v first was reviewed, handling was noted as a deficiency, but the more recent reviews now praise it.
as with the quieting, this is what manufacturers like honda usually do, improve as the design matures. based on our 09 escape, ford is on board with this philosophy, too.
My father used round peppermints that were popular back then and he chewed Clove chewing gum. I suspect it was for the positive reinforcement of something with a zip going into the mouth. That habit of the smoke "burning" the mouth is probably one part of the reinforcement from smoking. Dad quit when they took out a chunk of his lower lip with cancer on it, a large chunk.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
my oldest is a 'Redhawk', so OSU isn't a recommended topic in our house.
i saw from one of your other posts, you are in the Dayton area.
U of Dayton has some great monetary scholarships if your grades are good.
not sure how much tuition is, but maybe you can save enough to afford a new car for your son. at least one of you would be ok with that.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
i will just reply from somewhere else tomorrow.
DUH! I just figured out why I couldn't reply.
I don't have email set up under this profile.
You are in the minority. Several people here would say it is a bad design and they would blame Honda. :mad: You know, like the Toyota floor mats?
Is it really permission when it is a "to do list?"
Good to see you still have your power JM
GP
GP
Congratulations and best wishes in your new position.
Guess we will get some new perspectives from the service end of the business.
My son in law bought my X3 through the bmw dealer when I got my new car. He leased it and got a 3 year warranty. There is lots of water on the floor after it rains. The dealer says it is the door seals around the front window and replaced it for $300. They said it isn't covered by the warranty.
Any ideas on how they are getting out of this one? Just a guess, but I suppose seals aren't covered for some reason????
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Of course, you sold a ton of cars and if they are out of warranty, now you’re the one they will blame for not enforcing how valuable an extended warranty is. I know, that’s the F&I guy’s job but you’re the one that made the sale and you’re the one they see now, again. You’re on the wrong side of the counter so you will take the hit for this.
I hope you paid attention in the martial arts class they sent you to before putting you to work in this new position. If you didn’t, you might be slow posting now with only one good arm.
Anyway, we’d like to hear some Stories from the Service Frontlines so stay in touch and good luck with this new position. It WILL make you a more “rounded” car biz guy.
Again, good luck.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Seriously, we have missed you. It's good to have you back. Enjoy the new position and the better hours. BTW, are you behaving yourself in the booze and fast women departments?
Richard
Just to keep the fire burning, I checked on Edmunds for new car pricing. The Ford Escape begins at $25,270 and the Honda begins at $25,095. Think quickly now. Isell will be jumping in here with that argument.
Richard
That is why depreciation %'s reproted for some cars (Hyundais, SAABs, etc.) are misleading. Since it is calculated off of sticker, and car that sells at a large discount new is going to look like it depreciates a lot.
When you can buy a 40K SAAB for 30K, if it is worth 20K 2 years later, did it depreciate (in real, to the buyer terms) 50% or 33%?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And regarding the CRV and Escape pricing-well the CRV EX-L with navigation has invoice 26516 and msrp 28455 while the same featured Escape Limited with navigation has invoice of 28386 and msrp of 30790 .And both of these are selling at invoice now.And the escape has rebate of 500.. So you can figure it out.In 1 yr the Escape resale value is in the pit...And it`s a 10 year platform.No comparison really..The Escape is junk before the CRV especially in resale value. :shades:
I like and own Toyota/Lexus but am not a loyalist.I like cushy comfy floaty rides.But yes, competition is a good thing.As long as competition like Honda is there,Toyota will work harder.Good for the buyer.Otherwise they will stagnate like GM/Chrysler :lemon:
I work with a guy who has a ’99 Volvo V70 that has around 126K on it. The transmission went out on it yesterday (the second one with about 37K on it). He looks at Kelly and he comes up with a figure of $5K if it was still running (that sounds a little high for average condition but that’s what he said). He’s now debating about having the tranny rebuilt but I’m telling him to buy a new Volvo like for like (just having some fun).
He almost choked (typical cheap engineer) when I gave him the Edmund’s TMV ($31K with premium package and metallic paint in the 15146 zip code). He said he wanted leather so I went with the premium package since Edmunds shows it as “typically equipped”. I’m not going to spend all day on this since it ain’t my car.
I told him I’d get to the bottom of this. So, here I am. What should he expect if he buys a new V70 in the Burgh area?
Thanks,
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I just had a sleep study done on Sunday night. I think I slept about 3 hours after tossing and turning. It's impossible to get comfy with all the wires hooked up to you. That and the odd feeling that someone is watching and listening to everything you do. (Don't eat chili the night of the test).
Good Luck Quitting.
Oh, really? News to me!
You’re darn right it was and I didn’t even think about any insurance stuff. You just need a good reason. Mine was to see my son’s growing up. That was all I needed and I did it “cold turkey”. I’m not bragging because there are plenty of people who have done the same thing.
I know one thing; the increase in the cost of those things won’t do it. They just raised the tax in PA another 25 cents and you should hear the complaining. Just like the last time they raised the tax.
Just find a good reason to quit.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
That's the way I would look at it too but like I said, "typical cheap engineer". I guess I shouldn't be so free and easy with someone else's money. He just had another child, his third. He's thinking if he gets 2 or 3 years out of it he'll be satisfied.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
In NJ, tax on a new one (say you get it for 30K) would be $2,100. If you could get the tranny done for that much (used, rebuild, whatever), might as well, since either way you are throwing the money away.
I forgot what year this was, but if it was 2000 or earlier, it was the older 4 speed unit, and shouldn't be that bad to deal with
and if he has to finance a lot of this bad boy, the payments will eclipse the repair in no time.
oh, and that Volvo still has street value (if running). Assuming in decent shape, could easily do around 4K. No tranny? $500? maybe? So, also possible that he could repair and then sell, and at least break even.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I did it cold turkey and it's been just over a year now. However it took me about 20 tries of quitting (for a day, half a day, a week) before I finally succeeded. I threw away full packs, half packs, and flushed smokes down the toilet when I restartred a pack after quitting few days earlier. I was mad at myself for restarting. I hated myself for smoking again after quitting. But that's what it took for me to quit. That self loathing for not being able to control my cravings and for lighting up that smoke after I told my self no more smokes. It finally worked. I still crave them once in a while. But the only thing now that keeps me away, other than health reasons is that smokes are $10/pack here in Vancouver. I smoked a pack a day. So now, since quitting I add $10 to my calendar every day for the money I saved by quitting smoking. In just over a year I'm at $4320 saved.
Sales story to stay on topic: a customer is not happy with me because we couldn't get them financed. His response was actually a bit rude when I told him he needed a cojo. I guess some folks don't realize that we actually spend time working on hard-to-finance files, and we do try to get things done. All without even a deposit or having the customer come down here (all over the phone and email). It's not my fault they have a sub 500 beacon score. Some people really need to take care of their finances. I think they should teach personal finances in high school along family education and english.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Then they sometimes act empowered, try to switch to a more expensive car etc.
It's easy to see how they got in trouble in the first place!
I remember, in the late 60's we had a cigarette machine at eh gas station where I worked. A guy came and adjusted the machine so it would cost 50 cents for a pack and our owner told him that people wouldn't pay that much.
The pop machine was a real oldie. The top opened up and you slid the bottles along a track intil you got to a "gate" where you pulled the bottle straight up.
Anyone remember those?
No way to adjust the price and at a dime a bottle we lost a few cents on every one we sold which wasn't a big deal at the time.
I also remember buying cigarettes for 35 cents a pack.
Yes indeed. You could remove the cap on the bottles while they were still in the machine and use a straw to drink all you wanted !! I think that is why they went away.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
But when these customers come in they usually start off with "I want a Dodge Ram or F350 1 ton Diesel, or a BMW X5 ONLY, and I'm willing to pay up to $800/month. They say they make $5k/month but when you look at their credit, the $500 credit card with $10 minimum payments is maxed out and late over 90 days, and there's a collection for a bounced $250 payday loan check, and other dept store credit cards for minimal amounts have not been paid at all or have been written off.
There is a minority of folks who truly ran into hard times. But others just don't look after they finances very well. They usually come in looking for loaded $50k trucks or luxury vehicles, but drive away in used Kia Rios due to their poor credit. That's just the reality.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
He’s still waiting to get the word from the shop that will do the fix. I’ve heard of this place and they are a top notch quality shop. They do a lot of work for the dealers around here. He’s prepared to go as high as $2200 since that is what the shop told him over the phone and when he dropped it off last night but they have to look at it. He said when he first noticed it slipping and he pulled out the dip stick he thought he pulled out the oil dip stick, not a hint of pink. So that is not a good sign.
He barely made it to that shop last night. He couldn’t make it up a small grade so he coasted down in reverse to the bottom; let it cool off then was able to get the last breath of life out of it as he pulled into the shop. He knows it’s a goner. Just waiting for the final price.
that Volvo still has street value (if running). Assuming in decent shape, could easily do around 4K.
Like I said, when he went to Kelly he came away with $5K for average condition with a good tranny. He likes the car and is willing to go the cost of the repair up to $2200.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
He should fix it and then sell it right away. But I don't think either that he can get $5k for it. Maybe $3k-$4k max.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
That's 10 CDN, which is only $9.65 USD. :sick: