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Some of these Type A people can't sit still after retirement. They need something to do. Where I drive school bus there are some guys who fight for runs like they were starving. They drive Caddies, BMWs, Jags, Corvettes etc. One even drives around in a mint 1970 Olds 442 convertible.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
That was my thought. If it only happens once in a thousand times it means nothing to you when you are the once.
That said, I've done a couple dealer trades - no problem. The current Accord with 174K is oen of those. It had 46 miles on it when we picked it up.
This was the OWNER who told me this. Small store and the owner was SM and "closer". Also told me that production had stopped on 2008s (in January) and so no factory orders were possible. He almost blew the deal for the salesman.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Sorry -your post said salesman - not owner. Once again I took it personally as a attack on my profession. My most deepest apologies.
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And here's the Snopes link which certifies the ad to be true :
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Maybe Honda salesfolks can play an ad something like this in their dealerships to demonstrate the quality of Honda workmanship? LOL!
Well, it's fixed but not using your method. Our poster buddy 'jimbres' got me fixed over at the Forums software site here at Edmunds that Kirstie linked me to.
I have to admit I was thinking about the hammer and chisel method until Jim showed up.
'jipster'... I'll do housework only when I'm good and ready. When I get home from a hard day at the office, I'll do the cooking, dishes, windows, carpets, really anything I want and I don't need Mrs.jmonroe's permission to do it. :mad:
I'm back (from home).
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
There are exceptions to every rule. :P
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Yeah, I should have been more clear. The owner made the statement and the salesman just nodded.
"...I took it personally as an attack on my profession..."
You should know by now I attack both the biz and non-biz folks equally. I have great respect for all the salespeople here.
As for you personally, if you feel that I've crossed the line, go ahead and give me what for. I'm a big boy, I can take it.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Good ad.
Dash had right hand drive, I don't remember that when this was playing.
Nice wagon model at the end, too bad they don't sell these here.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
would appear as though Honda/Acura has somehow managed to upset the Canadian market as it continues to snub its products. Where major players are concerned (1,000 or more deliveries a month), Acura is #1 with losses of 45% and Honda, in third place with a reduction of 12.2%. Rounding out the Top 4, GM comes in second with a decline of 23.4% and Toyota, down 11.1%.
Saab does retain the all-out title for the worse performance last month with a tumble of 48.2%. Given Saab's situation, it is to be expected. Other low-volume losers include Jaguar (-24.4%), Mini (-16.9%) and Infiniti (-14.3%).
On the positive side, Subaru makes a serious case for the product-driven market. The arrival of the new 2010 Legacy and Outback catapulted sales a lofty 68.4%. Somebody at Subaru must be smiling. The German onslaught continues with BMW posting a 50.1% increase in sales (#2) and Mercedes (#4), demand climbing by 24.9% last month. In third place and constantly a strong performer is Hyundai, gathering an increase of 30.8% year-over-year for September 2009.
As for Ford, they maintain their momentum which began earlier this year with an increase of 24.4%. Ford is well on its way to securing the #2 spot, once held by Chrysler, in annual sales in Canada. In fact, should GM's downward spiral continue, could they find themselves seriously duking it out by year's end for the Top Spot? Probably not but 2010 could certainly be the year.
The landscape has changed - interesting to see what happens in October.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
A friend once sold Acuras and said it was brutal. When he worked there about 4 years ago, the only thing that sold was the TL. All other models were outdated and never sold in large numbers.
Even now if you think about it the lineup is starting to get outdated.
The RL is becoming long in the tooth, I mean how many do you see on the road compared to MB E class or BMW 5 series?
The TL with it's polarizing redesign might have turned off buyers who liked the previous understated elegance.
The TSX was redesigned a year or so ago, but this one never had the huge impact the original had.
The Canadian only CSX has a $3-$4k premium over a Civic and the only thing it adds is a Navigation and different lights. Given the fact that you can buy a portable Navi unit for $200, and a Civic that looks the same and has same equipment, why would anyone spend the extra money in this economy?
The MDX and the RDX might be their better sellers, but can their sales alone support Acura through slower times? And with their radical-for-Acura designs, in a year or two they will start to look outdated.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Before I sterted selling cars I considered working at Acura dealership, and even GM at the interview said that their sales are very seasonal - when a new model comes out - they make money, then the sit for a couple of months doing nothing...
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Easy, he starts off driving one car one mile then parks it. He then gets out runs back to the second car and drives one mile past the first car and parks it. He then runs back to the first car and drives it one mile past the second car and parks it. He keeps doing this and in a few weeks you have your car and one fit (or dead) retiree.
I know someone who actually did that, but only for 5 or 6 miles.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Including that one? :P :P
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2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
That's an interesting theory and I think it does make sense. My friend has the last model TL and it is a pretty good solid well designed car, and he really likes it. But, he doesn't like the new design.
I wonder if the edgier designs like the new TL or the current Camry are not selling well because the younger people who like those designs are hurting in the recession. The luxury model BMW, MB and Audis are doing well. These are solid designs which more mature buyers will appreciate. Also, more established people who can afford these cars, even in a recession.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Richard
Yeah, my brother's wife had a CRV - previous generation. They love it and I've enjoyed riding in it.
Nice of you to make an appearance. We've been wondering where you were.
Welcome back.
P.S. I have never heard a bad word about a CRV - only excellent remarks.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
This guy has been selling Acuras for about 15 years. He knows the vehicles inside and out. He knows how his product stacks up to the competition. He keeps files on all of his customers. He knows my birthdays, my favorite sport, my favorite foods.
While not necessary, he sends me b-day cards. Emails me sports tidbits, and will even send a review of the latest restaurant in town. Or course, he always intersperses his communications with "got some factory cash on TLs and can make a smoking deal on one, if you're interested".
Nothing pushy...just a very educated and professional sales person.
Regarding the cars themselves, there's only one model of Acura I've ever been interested in (and actually owned).. That's a TL. The only real complaint I had with the one I had, was it had some pretty bothersome torque steer. But, the new models seemed to have exorcised that demon.
They aren't the fastest cars in their class. Nor are they the best on the track. But, for a day-to-day car, they are very, very nice. LIke most Honda products, they don't stand out in any one area, but are good at just about any parameter you care to judge them on.
I like the redesign. But, I'm in the minority. The redesign doesn't speak to the overall driving experience (good) of the car. And, they just don't break.
My sales person tempted me with one last spring/summer. He said he could give me my pick of any tech/FWD model on the lot at the time (over 70 of them) for about $34K. If I had been in the market (which I wasn't), I don't think I could have found a better car for anything close to that price.
Not a MB C class (not equipped the same way). Not a 3 Series (equipped the same way). Not even a CTS Caddy (equipped the same way).
Granted, that $34K number was about $4K+ more than a V6 Accord, equipped like for like, but there's enough of a differentiation between the 2 that the cost premium was justified.
In short, I like Acuras. A former long time poster turned me on to them (Terry, aka rroyce). He owned some car lots and would post dead on accurate trade-in values in that particular thread.
He loved them, too. He liked them for different reasons. He said they hold their value well (they do). And, that they're uber reliable (they are).
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I also am very partial to Crvs, though I have never owned one, and yes it would make a great "utility" vehicle. My problem there is that we already have one SUV in the family so don't need another one. I was thinking of something small, nimble, inexpensive, and with good fuel economy to use for short trips when the weather is not too bad.
I am just at the "thinking about it" stage right now, so all ideas are welcome.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
I sold a 2002 to a guy who by odd chance, happened to grow up in my home town in California. He now has 300,000 miles on it and other than having to replace his front brake calipers, nothing has gone wrong.
plus, the 4 cyl can be had as stick or auto and there is a v6 option too.
the escape has also gotten quiet which the cr-v has not.
the escape electronic features are better, too.
we have 2 escapes and are happy with both of them.
it's a vehicle that has great bones, so it didn't need to get redesigned several times.
of course there is room for improvement.
I went in Friday for the results of the second scan. After 90 days, the spots have disappeared! The doctors couldn't explain what happened. I solved the mystery. I told them that God took care of this. He just isn't ready for me yet. Satan may be, but He isn't. I do have a lung infection that is being treated, but nothing cancerous. I have been given a second chance to quit smoking after 50+ years. I'm going in for a sleep study next weekend, and then we will take on the smoking issue. I am so grateful and so thankful. I feel very blessed. Mack knew about my situation. I think that he had a talk with God. I can just see him doing that for me.
To stay on topic: My pulmonary specialist drives a baby blue Lexus convertible with a navy blue top. My regular doctor drives a black MB sedan.
Richard
Richard
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Thanks,
Richard
Richard
I am very glad that Honda got rid of that hatch. About eight years ago, my wife went to a business meeting with me in Indiana, PA. Since I had to take a lot of presentation materials, we drove her CRV up to PA. After the meeting, she was loading some of the materials into the rear of the car. I was loading things on to the rear seat. Suddenly, I heard a scream and a loud thud. A strong gust of wind had blown the rear hatch into the side of her head while she was bending over near the door. She was knocked to the ground and was unconscious. While waiting on the rescue squad, she came to. Blood was pouring from her head. The hatch had cut a four inch gash into the side of her head. They used metal stitches to sew her up, and put a skull cap on her. The ER staff at Indiana Hospital could not have been more wonderful. They immediately called in a neurosurgeon who assured us that she was ok other than the gash. The nurses and other doctors were great. They kept her overnight, and we started home the next day. Being from out of state, the hospital staff went out of their way to make sure that we both had everything that we needed. It may have been a small hospital, but they were professional and skilled in every way.
Hopefully, changing that hatch design may have saved more injuries to others.
Richard
Next time you get a scan take the spare change out of your shirt pocket. You had us all worried. :mad:
Glad you are well so I can bore you with my latest junk purchase (I asked graphicguy to help but I guess I wasn't pretty enough).
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Of COURSE they do! That's why they went to med school.
Had a friend up in Canada who checked his proctologist's income last year - over $3/4 million.
I was all set to tell you I liked the side opening back in the CRV until you told us what happened to your wife! Yikes!
Richard, it is amazing you and your wife still want to drive. After the experience with the Caddie, the Toyota, Sebring #1, and now a Honda CRV.....I give you two a lot of credit for not giving up on driving. Ever consider a Hummer?
Sorry to hear about the cut backs, it will be a big loss to the school.
Glad to have you back, and good luck with everything.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
as someone who has an MD as a BIL, i pass on their recommendation to get any serious diagnosis a second opinion.
Scary story about your wife, I am glad she is ok and was treated well.
i am a regular poster on the escape vs cr-v thread, and have posted about what i viewed as an inferior rear hatch design on the cr-v more than a few times.
i could use your post for some serious ammunition over there.
a Pilot is a pretty big vehicle, really wide. a cr-v is pretty much a bigger looking civic wagon.
anyways, just have your wife consider the home team for her next vehicle.
Until you listed them, I never thought about it. You're correct. We haven't been very lucky with cars, have we? Still, I have to look at the overall picture. We had great experiences with the GTO, the two Buicks, the Tahoe, the Lincoln TC, the Explorer, and (so far) the convertible.
Still, there was the Buick Skylark, the Chevy Blazer, the MG, and the Buick Electra that I haven't told you about thus far. That is four more horror stories that I can save for a rainy day, or when we run out of sales stories.
A Hummer? That just may be the answer for us.
Richard
Richard, have you ever thought about doing SAT tutoring?
You have an education background, which is a big factor in your favor.
Getting into good institutions of higher learning is extremely competitive.
We had an SAT tutor for both my kids. just a few sessions which focused on answering techniques.
My wife and I both feel it really helped.
Neither kid needed help with math, but we feel it bought up their other scores about 100 points.
my egghead just made 'NHS', but still took the SAT again yesterday to try to bring up her english/writing scores. math could not be improved.
told her we would buy her a new car if she went to a state school, but no sale.
Feel free to use my post on your other thread. I actually had my wife look at the Ford Escape. She just wasn't interested in it. I like it myself but, this time, she gets to make the decision.
Thanks for the kind words.
Richard
Richard
Take the spare change out of my shirt pocket? LMAO! You are such a hoot!
Richard
Richard
How was the rise in points measured? From earlier test or from practice tests?
My youngster just took the SAT again yesterday. He wants a state school, OSU.
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