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BMW 335i 2007+

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  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    From my very humble perspective (tee-hee), the following is a list of required options:
    - BMW 335i - $38,700
    - Destination Charge - $695
    - Sport Package - $1,600
    - Metallic Paint - $475
    - Leather Seating - $1,450
    Total (MSRP): $42,920

    Then there are the nice to have options:
    - Premium Package - $1,000 (additional cost above the Leather Seating)
    - Satellite Radio - $595
    - Comfort Access - $500
    - Sun Shade system - $575 (depends upon where you live, in NH, don't need it)
    Total (MSRP): $2,670

    Finally we get to the pure fluff / absolutely unnecessary options:
    - Steptronic - $1,275
    - Paddle Shifters - $100
    - Active Steering - $1,250
    - Park Distance Control - $350
    - Cold Weather Package - $1,000
    - Active Cruise Control - $2,200
    - Nav/iDrive - $2,100
    Total (MSRP): $8,275

    Personally I'd order a 335i with the "required" options along with the Premium Package which will yield an MSRP of $43,920. Said another way, configured as I would do it I can buy the car for well under $40,000 via the ED program.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • guestguest Member Posts: 770
    I bought 335 sedan with sport package,premium package. for around 43000.00.It seemed at the time a little pricey(3 weeks ago)but after driving this car for some time the money i spent seems like a bargin!this car is so much fun to drive!
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Member Posts: 292
    Living maybe five miles away from you at most, I'm qualified to say: no seat heaters? You're crazy. ;)
  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    Mrs. Shipo would love you. ;-)

    The truth of the matter is that I hate "Heat-Seaters". I had them on one car, used them once, hated the effect and never used them again. Mrs. Shipo ALWAYS uses her heat-seaters if the calendar is anywhere between October and April. Everytime I drive her car I get maybe a half of a mile from our garage and I'm already trying to figure out why I'm so uncomfortable. Once the realization hits me that I'm in her car I cannot hit the off button fast enough, even still, I have to deal with the warm seat for a few miles until it cools off. :mad:

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • stl540stl540 Member Posts: 67
    Personally I'd order a 335i with the "required" options along with the Premium Package which will yield an MSRP of $43,920.

    Shipo - You spec'd the car I just picked up. The exception is I have the jet black vs. metallic paint and I have the heated seats...which are a must, IMO. My MSRP was $25 more than your post ($43,945). I paid $42,200 ($1745 under MSRP). The car now has 110 miles on it. I have followed the recommended break-in procedures. The engine has great pull at low RPMs that the 4500 RPM recommended break-in limit is easy to maintain. Not to say I cannot wait to ge the 1200 miles under my tires so I can let it rev.
  • stl540stl540 Member Posts: 67
    I recently sold a Boxster S (weekend car) due to it collecting dust. I could not find the time to drive it with family commitments (2 young kids). I figure I could get a car that would meet me in the middle of my 2002 540i SP (auto) and 2000 Boxster S (manual). That car is the 335i SP (manual). The Boxster was very light ~3000 lbs and the 540i was heavy ~4000 lbs. The 335i is around 3600 lbs, has a lot of torque, great handling, brakes, etc, etc, etc. It was a nice middle ground for me to go from 2 cars down to 1.

    Don't get me wrong...I like the e60. I just do not need the extra space right now and the extra weight takes away from the handling performance. We will take the Odyssey on longer trips where the extra space is needed. I can see another 5-Series in my garage sometime in the future….if we outgrow the 3.

    BTW…My 540i (in process of selling it) is/was the best highway car I have ever driven. The car was so smooth, very powerful, and sure footed at any speed. If I was driving a lot of highway miles, I would give the nod to the 5. I receive many compliments from riders on the comfortable nature of the 5 on the highway.
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    I find this funny, because i may be the world's biggest fan of seat heaters. I used them year round when i lived in albuquerque, fer crying out loud. They were best after judo, when my backside tended to be sore. AC blasting, seats toasty. Ahh, that spells relief :)
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Member Posts: 292
    I've had my seat heaters on for the past couple of weeks. :)

    My Dad has an Audi A8, and there are 6 settings for his seats. I've labeled setting 5 as "this is almost unbearable and I'm on the verge of turning it down". I tried 6 once. Once.

    Woe is you if you ever leave the seat heater off in Mrs. Shipo's car and also leave the toilet seat up. ;)
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    I think the E90 is treading dangerously close in size and weight to the E39 540i.

    Wheelbase: E39-111.4", E90-108.7". Width: E39-70.9", E90-71.5". Curb weight: E39-3800#, E90-3600#.

    I think the E90's newer platform makes for a dynamically superior car, but from a physical standpoint, the differences are insignificant. Size, weight, power:weight ratio are pretty much a wash.

    If I were looking for a car that was more responsive and fun-to-drive than an E39 540i, the E90 335i would not even squawk my radar.
  • designmandesignman Member Posts: 2,129
    The 335i is around 3600 lbs…

    If I were looking for a car that was more responsive and fun-to-drive than an E39 540i, the E90 335i would not even squawk my radar.

    Yeah, this talk about weight has me drifting back almost 30 years when all variations of the first 7-series (E23) weighed ~3250-3600 lbs. Imagine that, less than today’s 3-series! Ooh I loved those cars, the days when BMW made its bones in the US.
  • div2div2 Member Posts: 2,580
    Ooh I loved those cars, the days when BMW made its bones in the US.

    One of the many reasons I love my ti; another is the complete and utter lack of all electronic safety nannies(save ABS). That said, I would like a few more ponies, but forced induction and/or a stroker motor will fill the bill nicely.
  • stl540stl540 Member Posts: 67
    Your points are well taken and fair.

    The 7-8% difference may not seem like a lot on paper (E90 is less than 3600 and the E39 is more than 3800), but the driving dynamics are different. The E90 is much more nimble. I attribute some to technology and much to the weight difference.

    There is a noticable difference in the interior room between the two. It may not look like much on paper, but there is a difference. I lived in my E39 for 4.5 years and when I first got in the E90, I felt more cramped. Well, cramped is not the right word....but it was noticeably smaller.

    I should have stated that I wanted to remain in the new luxury car segment, so the Mini, WRX, E36, 2002, etc were out. I consider the entry luxury sport (E90 and competitors) and luxury sport (E60 and competitors) as a potential new car. I wanted a luxury car that was good handling, powerful, four door, manual, that could hold two car seats. I looked at many, drove a couple, and ended up with the 335i.

    Cheers!
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    could make a good case for the argument that anyone one who drives a BMW larger than a 3-series is a poseur. Is a Steptronic equipped 6-series owner a badge hunter? How about any M-B other than a 6-speed C-class? Does anyone NEED a Porsche 911 with Tiptronic for commuting in rush hour traffic?

    True, very true. But in all honesty we all dont need a 3 series or a Porsche with a stick any more than someone needs a Triptronic/Steptronic/oversized bloated lux cruiser.

    It's needs that dictates the purchase of a Corolla. It's wants, irrational desires and emotions that dictates the purchase of any luxury performance car( stick or no stick).
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Wow congratulations! Did you keep the 323i ?
    I kind of miss mine


    Thanks dl,

    It was an incredibly reliable car and due to affordability reasons 8 years ago I bought a very basic vanilla 323. And despite its cloth seats, no alloy rims ,no sports package or any other option I really do miss it.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    I despise heat-seaters because they make me feel like a rump roast. I have no intention in using it on my 335i despite my surrounding glacial habitat during winters (Toronto).
  • designmandesignman Member Posts: 2,129
    Div2, still have an interest in getting the M1?
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    I love seat heaters. I love cooking my rump like a roast in the oven. Different strokes for different strokes.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    I like rump roast, too.. ;) The heated seats really come in handy with a convertible... Nothing better than a nice fall day with the top down and your backside toasty..

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  • div2div2 Member Posts: 2,580
    Div2, still have an interest in getting the M1?

    I sure do; I'm hoping to find an orange one:

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    Since I started this discussion, back in March, and was genuinely interested in this car – I decided to post a brief “signoff”. . .

    I decided to buy a new Corvette ( Coupe, 3LT PEG, MX0 ) instead of the BMW. There were several reasons, but the weight of the 335 was one. Setting aside the HP \ TQ difference, the Corvette @ approx. 3200 does feel different – despite the ( significant ) width of the ‘Vette.

    Carry on.

    - Ray
    Still glad BMW has stepped up to the 300 HP \ TQ level in the 3 . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    I test drove a C6 a few weeks ago (back-to-back with the Porsche Cayman S and 911).

    I was surprised and impressed with the Chevy's quality and driving dynamics. I liked the cockpit and think it is every bit as nice as the BMW Z4 M Coupe in quality/comfort. The power is amazing and dynamics were very sharp too (steering and brakes are very responsive, but they both lack "feel").

    At less than $40,000 (GM employee pricing), I am seriously tempted by the C6 - it's a really nice car and an amazing bargain.

    Congrats!
  • div2div2 Member Posts: 2,580
    The C6 is a great car; if I didn't need a back seat it would be on the short list for my next daily driver.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    stl540, you're in the same position I'm sort of in. I have two cars. One for daily and the other for play time. The toy is about 2 years old and has less than 9800 miles on it. I love it to death, but logic and rationale keeps telling me that I'm pouring money down the drain with it (payments, gas, maintenance, taxes, etc.)

    I, too, have two kids; preteens. I need a backseat, but I "need" agility as well. My primary car has great agility, but it's not as hard-edged as I would like. And based on my needs/wants, BMW is the only true player in the game. Infiniti is next in line, but it's just lacking a certain something. I want a certain luxury quotient, and I want great performance was well. The only two BMWs that fill the bill are the 550i (too expensive vs. lower versions) and the 335i sedan (too expensive for what you get.)

    The 530i and 525i are just way to slow for my tastes. If I bought a 325i, I'd feel like I bought a BMW "just because" and that I settled for the cheapest thing they have; though, doesn't the Z4 or M coupe cost less? I'm at confusing odds between the 550i and the 335i. The 550i has the luxury quotient (quieter ride, amenities), but the 335i has the agility that I like. I like performance more than luxury, so you'd think the choice would be easy. Not so fast!

    I sure do love a V8 :blush: , but the 550i sure is expensive. :sick: The 335i certainly has a more attractive price :) , but when you look at the big picture, what am I really getting for that $43K+ :surprise: (cofigured for me) price tag on a 335i? :confuse:

    What to do, what to do?? Get a 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport?
  • sichinsichin Member Posts: 5
    I too am considering upgrading from an A4 to the 335i sedan and am reluctant to spend the $43k, considering that a GS350 AWD would be about the same price w/ Lexus December to Remember. Clearly, it is not a true sports sedan, but the luxury and value is very tempting. The IS 350 is also very potent.. but also lacks the planted feel of the 335 and a tad too small.

    I also test drove the AWD G35, but felt there is just something missing - unrefined (felt like a decked out maxima). The price would be tempting and credit Infiniti for a nice restyling and the potent engine - but the poor (used car lot) experience at the dealership leaves much to be desired.

    Hands down, nothing compares to the 335, but I'm still having trouble justifying the huge premium.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    Hands down, nothing compares to the 335, but I'm still having trouble justifying the huge premium

    Then consider leasing. BMW seems to have the greatest leasing values.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    Yeah, if you can get the dealer to abide by BMWFS lease rates. My dealer will not. :confuse:
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    Yeah, if you can get the dealer to abide by BMWFS lease rates. My dealer will not.

    Wow, I didn't think some dealers wouldn't. You obviously need another BMW dealer. Are there any ones competitively nearby?
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    The next closest is 43 miles away, I think. Not a big deal, but still... I wouldn't want to have to drive that far every time I need service, because I know this dealership wouldn't treat me right if I bought elsewhere.
  • sichinsichin Member Posts: 5
    I am considering the lease- but $550/month is no picnic either. I maybe comparing apples to oranges or oranges to tangerines but Audi advertises $349/month for the 2.0T Quattro. Thats a difference of $2400 per year or $7200 over three years (sigh).
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    I am considering the lease- but $550/month is no picnic either. I maybe comparing apples to oranges or oranges to tangerines but Audi advertises $349/month for the 2.0T Quattro. Thats a difference of $2400 per year or $7200 over three years (sigh).

    What BMW are you taking about (coupe or sedan, etc.) and what is the difference in MRSP's between it and the A4 you're comparing it to?
  • sichinsichin Member Posts: 5
    We're talking about the sedan.. a 328xi or a 335i will run $550/month. An A4 2.0T msrp at $33k v. 335 at $43k They are at 2 ends of the value spectrum in the entry level luxary market. I know-- the A4 will not be mistaken for being quick. But the 335's run flat tire issues and 15k mile oil changes makes me hesitant of the costs of ownership/reliability. How long will that smile on my face last when driving the 335?
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    You’re right…very different vehicles.

    I love the A4…but it’s no 335i; especially the 2.0T.

    Your smile will probably last till the end of the lease since the maintenance is included.

    It’s been a while since I’ve compared CR results (if you care about their stats)…but I don’t think the BMW is less reliable than the A4.
  • div2div2 Member Posts: 2,580
    But the 335's run flat tire issues and 15k mile oil changes makes me hesitant of the costs of ownership/reliability

    Those two problems have simple fixes; switch to go-flats and change the oil yourself at 7.5K intervals. Trust me, the oil change on an E90 is a VERY easy job, and while you are at it you can switch to Mobil 1 0W-40, which is a superior oil-IMNSHO, anyway...
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    But the 335's run flat tire issues and 15k mile oil changes makes me hesitant of the costs of ownership/reliability. How long will that smile on my face last when driving the 335?

    With leasing I am not concerned about the lengthy oil change intervals recommended by BMW. Speaking of run-flats, I now have over 22,000 mi. on mine and they have many more mi. (another 5-10000?) to go before they are replaced. After the bad ride and wear I had with RF's on my 2002 SC430, I am now impressed with this generation of RF's.
  • buildsocbuildsoc Member Posts: 1
    Hello, my name is Mike.

    I just bought a 2007 BMW 335i sedan with Sport package and Cold weather package, whihc make sthe tires 18",....I think....

    Question is I have snow tires from my wife's previous 3 series,....a standard stock 2003 BMW325i

    Living in North Jersey, I may need snow tires again this winter, Can I put those old snow tires on this new car.

    Please keep in mind, I know nothing about tire sizes, and haven asked the dealer/mechanic yet.

    The "old" snow tires were only used once for 3 months last year and are on new rims.

    TIA!
  • barry626barry626 Member Posts: 78
    Mike

    Not sure size of your snows? most likely will fit your 07.
    The rims the snows are mounted on will not fit your 07.

    Whatever u do don't drive your 07 in any snow @ all.
    Unless u have all season or snow tires.
    Tires on your car are summer only & won't work in 1 inch of snow.

    Save your life + others & get 4 snows on your car this winter!

    Good luck with your 07 Sedan, I love mine!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    Agreed... they won't fit.. Sell them and start over.

    You should be able to put 17" snow tires and wheels on your car... but, not those.

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  • jhoeniejhoenie Member Posts: 1
    the lease to get here is the 24mo 12k...i just got one and it is bad A.. my business partner is trading his M3 for one. the 335 is a no brainer. i work in the automotive sales end of things and take my advice and get 330i @ 24mo 12k 2500 down for 565 mo its well worth the money and will keep you smiling for 24mo !!!
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    $16,000 over 2 years?

    What's the residual? How is the car equipped?

    Any way you slice it, that seems like a lot of money out of pocket for a car that has been discontinued...
  • tcn2ktcn2k Member Posts: 277
    Well, just ordered my 335i today. Total MSRP of 44,695.00. I am leasing and negotiated a price of 1500 over invoice with great MF and residual with no down. Now the agony of the 2-3 months wait period for it to be built!
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  • tpjcourtneytpjcourtney Member Posts: 34
    Picked up my Monaco Blue/Lemon :lemon: /Burl, 6sp, spt pkg, prem pkg, comfort access, htd seats, folding seats and sat radio on 12/30. After waiting 7 weeks, I am so pumped to have it. Now for the wait until the 1200 mile break-in is over.

    The car is so smooth and fast. I have not even tipped into the throttle all the way and I am amazed. Highway driving is a breeze, I hardly ever have to shift once in 6th for hills, passing, etc., unless speeds drop into the 30's.

    I'm in Colorado and had to put snow tires on right away so it is hard to comment on the handling yet. With the Dunlop M3 runflats I've got on, the ride is fairly smooth and very tight. Much more composed and quiet than either of the E36s I've owned. Hard to tell the difference between 60 and 90mph, and if your not careful you will be at 90 when you wanted 60.

    Very impressed with the snow tires for those considering different brands. Excellent traction on snow/ice and good feel on dry, not too soft.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,620
    Living in CO, you're really going to love those turbos. Everyone without them loses power at altitude.

    Enjoy!
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • jero3469jero3469 Member Posts: 6
    I was going to buy a bmw 335i coupe until i realized that the US and canadian version of it are limited to 210 kmh? wile the european version are limited at 250kmh.
    Not that it really matters cause you can not travel at those speeds down here , but why spend all those money on an underpowered version of bmw?
    Doesnt that bother you? why would they do something so stupid? what is the matter with laws down here?
    If you have the extra money import one from germany, why give american or canadian bmw the money? so they can underpower you car for the fun of it?
    If i was gona buy a bmw i would order it from germany and teach them a lesson.
  • tpjcourtneytpjcourtney Member Posts: 34
    If you get the sport pkg it is 155mph/250kmh, 130/210 without it. The engine is not detuned, the limiter is set at that point because the tire rating on non-sport cars is not high enough. There is only one track here in Colorado with a straigh long enough that would allow me to get into the 120's anyway, nothing around here for higher than that. I do not plan on ever seeing anything near 155 in reality, but it is there if I need it.
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    If you could let use know what your MF was. Was this a BMW sponcsered lease ?

    Tony
  • flightnurseflightnurse Member Posts: 2,217
    When has BMW started discounting the 335i's ??

    Tony
  • pchpch Member Posts: 1
    I picked up my 335i in October and have had a blast ever since! I have issues with staying stock for a long period of time and was wondering if anyone knows a few good websites that I might be able to check out. I am looking for an adjustable coilover suspension that will help tuck tires on 19" wheels. I am also looking into a big brake kit as well as anything for the engine that will help feed my greedy speed needs.

    I live in Germany right now and live 2km from the autobahn, so I have been fortunate enough to explore all that the 335i has to offer. It is a very fun car and I am very happy with it, however, I am always looking for an opportunity to improve/upgrade. I would appreciate any info you guys have.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    They're not.

    They are discontinuing production of the 330i.
  • dhanleydhanley Member Posts: 1,531
    Well, to be clear, bmw isn't "officially discounting" 335i's, but your individual dealer may give you and under MSRP deal, depending.
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