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I am still crossing my fingers for some good mileage numbers, however they can manage it.
B.">
This is a great looking vehicle, probably get slightly better fuel economy than the CX-7 even though it is larger. Little concerned about buying one early in the model run though with an unproven engine and transmission.
I think the problem the the duratec V6 in the Mazda6 was due to them trying to push 221hp out of it. The larger displacement and valvetrain goodie of the new 3.5L V6 should make it a better and more reliable performer. Word is that it will make 270hp so I would bank on about the same gas mileage numbers as the CX-7 (maybe more on the highway), but CX-7 will have a bit better performance overall.
Ford is placing alot of trust in this new engine. It is the same overall dimensions as the previous 3.0L V6 so it can eventually replace it entirely. It is supposed to be 7% more fuel efficient as well.
Someone has posted a video on YouTube of a CX-9. It's a pretty bad quality video, but the vehicle does look nice as far as fit and finish from the side.
By now, UAW workers should be well aware that their future depends very much on the quality of their work.
"More iPods
General Motors, Ford Motor Co. and Mazda Motor Corp. are teaming up with Apple Computers Inc. to enable people to link their iPods to vehicle audio systems on most 2007 models.
The move, announced today, means that more than 70 percent of all 2007 model-year U.S. vehicles will be able to link with iPods, Apple said in a press release.
The automakers will provide a cable that will link iPods with a vehicle's audio system. The link allows people to use the vehicle audio controls to choose songs on the iPod. The link also charges the iPod's battery.
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Mazda's entire 2007 lineup, along with most other Ford vehicles, will offer the feature as a dealer-installed option as well. The Ford accessory, called TripTunes Advanced, will cost about $200 plus recommended dealer installation, a Ford spokesperson said. -ERIN ROBINSON, AUTOMOTIVE NEWS"
This is great news IMO.
B.
The Ford Edge/ Lincoln MKX share the platform with the CX-7, not the CX-9. However, they will share the same engine, Duratec35. As for transmission, it will probably use the same 6-speed auto that is in the CX-7. I do not see why they would use the Ford tranny.
The preliminary HP numbers I have heard from Mazda are around 250. We could see more, though.
I bet we see the CX-9 sometime Spring 07.
It is a possibility, however, Mazda does not use Ford tranny's, except in the Tribute, which by all means is an Escape clone, and the B-Series pick-up (Ranger)
The other Mazda vehicles with the Duratec30 use Mazda trannys. (Mazda6, Mazda MPV).
Since it is being built in Japan, I do think they will use the 6-speed auto found in the CX-7.
About the HP, I would like to see 270. That would put it near top of it's class when it is released.
When introducing a new model, you want to offer what your competition does not. A 270 hp engine would do the trick.
It will be interesting to see if they modify their own 6-speed auto to fit the CX-9. I don't think it will be a very cost effective move because it will probably be the only vehicle that uses that engine for a couple of years.
I would easily give up 5% horsepower just to get better fuel economy.
How about if it offered some cylinder management technology and increased mileage to 20/27, then it would kill everyone in the segment.
Just my thoughts.
B.
BTW, we're not after horsepower. What we want in our next family hauler is 6-7 seats, xenon headlights, awd and an engine that uses regular gas. Right now, only the Pacifica meets those criteria.
Cylinder management technology really only works for highway driving, where the driver isn't in and out of the accelerator.
Personally I'd love to see Ford's new hybrid transaxle in the CX-9, but I don't think that's going to happen either.
BTW, the Pacifica is getting a 4.0L V6 for next year with a 6-speed automatic and a very mild facelift. The should help performance and gas-mileage a bit, but the Mazda will have more interior room. I love the Pacifica and have taken a long trip in a rental Pacifica. I loved the vehicle, but was not impressed with the interior room for such a large vehicle. (Plus you'll be able to seat an extra person in the Mazda)
The Mazda6 2.3L uses a 5-speed auto, also Mazda built.
It will be interesting to see if they modify their own 6-speed auto to fit the CX-9
I do not think they will have to do much modifying, if any. I have heard the the Duratec30 and Duratec35 are very similar. But, I guess we will have to wait and see
I am sure it will be regular gas this is targeted towards families...its true competition is the leaders in the class like the Honda Pilot & Toyota Highlander (even though they are more truck-like...but they both get replaced next year so expect even more crossover like entries and better in every way to their 5 year old designs).
I need near top of the class in gas mileage with an AWD optional 3rd row seating vehicle for the family that offers some decent car-like handling and looks. My Acura TSX is just feeling a bit too small now, so need to add that family car.
B.
As far as external dimensions they are the same. The 3.5L was built as a direct replacement for the 3.0L.
The Honda Pilot is slated to be a replaced probably as a late 2008 or early 2009. Here's a spy shot of one.
The Toyota Highlander will probably be replaced about the same time. I don't expect it will really look much like it's concept, but here's a picture anyway.
If anyone really needs xenons, take the time to learn how to retrofit other cars with it, and good a good quality vehicle. The idea that a Chrysler product is your lone choice due to its headlights is one of the worst things I've ever heard. The quality issues alone are daunting, and there are so many good imports either coming soon or in the near future (2008) that it boggles the mind why anyone that can tie their own shoelaces would consider Chrysler.
And I'm not even getting into the MPG with this point.
Dave Becker
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=593523
By all accounts it will be released next year as a 2008, same thing with the highlander that badly needs an update, and I think it is doubtful it looks like that conecpt but I could be wrong.
B.
Everyone chooses a vehicle based on different reasons. Who are you to tell them their reasons are absurd or their vehicle choice is stupid? I've heard of very few quality problems with the Pacifica.
Besides, you're bashing domestics in a forum for a vehicle that will have a good deal of Ford DNA in it.
Agreed about the Ford DNA. That likely accounts for the quality issues that Mazda has compared to other foreign makes, though sadly, especially with Toyota lately, I think that the foreign makes' quality is coming down more than domestic quality going up.
My point is that there are countless reasons to choose a car, and xenon headlights should be about #533 on the list.
And as for getting a life, that's truly a useless post, though it took ya two tries to do it. Try to ask your father to post for you next time so it works on the first try.
Dave Becker
I believe we understand your point, but your point is, for lack of a better word, pointless. If someone wants Xenon headlight to be a deciding factor in the car they choose, why would you put them down? Just because it's not your reason for buying a car doesn't mean it's invalid.