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2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift
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But did everyone notice that the Yaris should be compared to Hyundai Getz?
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I think, the only similar with both cars to compare is the price. If the price didnt matter, I would have gotten a Corolla Hatchback.
Before I got into these cars (since we dont have Getz in the US), I know that the Hyundai has really bad resale value. But, if you really thought of it, bad resale value didnt really matter since, why would you wanna buy a new car if you intend to sell it? You'd rather go on a used car.
So, my point is, I took what I want to use for a long period of time. Not the reselling afterwards. With a generous 10 year bumper to bumper warranty and 6 years on the drive train, theres no doubt in choosing the Accent.
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Heres my story..
I ordered a Yaris for 15,700+ with Sportivo Suspension, 18" TRD Sport wheels and a 5speed Manual...And you definetely know what Im after for..FUN FACTOR with a FUEL ECONOMY car. All in all, my accessories was $4,400 for that Yaris LB.(Its a hatchback actually). ..luckily, i got denied.
Yaris = $15,713.00
Accent SE = $15,830.00
Im very happy to have the SE for the same PRICE.
CONS?:* Tall throws on stick shift (short-throw kit is available as dealer-installed option)
Now Im waiting to see the SR
Really a tough choice between the 2 actually.
I was planning to put 17s OZ
I would add that a major con for the Accent is its poor IIHS side impact test results. However, the hatch versions of the Accent and Yaris haven't been tested yet, and the body structures are different from the sedans, so it's possible the hatches will fare differently than the sedans (wider doors, more rearward B pillar relative to front seat). Also the Yaris gets better fuel economy than the Accent. But the Accent looks like the sportier choice, especially that SR. I wonder if we'll get that in the U.S.? I kind of doubt it. If Hyundai won't put nav in even its top-end models, and no auto climate control on the Elantra, I doubt we'll see an Accent with those features here.
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http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/hatchbacks/0609_2006_hyundai_accent_se/
I test drove a MT Accent SE, was impressed.
Since the Toyota dealer was just down the street, I test drove a MT Yaris hatch as well.
Here is what I came away with;
Styling
The Accent is better looking, IMHO, I like the rounded body shape, and rear "spoiler". The Yaris is more stubby and toy like in appearance.
Inside the Accent's dash is more conventional, although the glove box and center console storage compartment both felt flimsy. The Yaris' strange center dash didn't bother me, and I liked the many storage compartments, which were sturdier than the Accent's.
The Accent's seats look better, but the Yaris' seats are more comfortable.
Exterior colors for the Yaris are not very exciting, white, red gray, black, blue, but the Accent has a more adventurous palette, with ice blue, tango red (more of an orange), a handsome dark blue, and a fantastic looking apple green.
Performance.
The Accent SE handled well, a tight suspension was immediately noticable, but hard cornering caused body roll and irritation from the salesmen. :mad:
The manual shifter was unpleasantly notchy, I had to fight it a bit to change gears. Its a small engine but with the manual there seemed to be plenty of power for this type of car.
The Yaris also handled well, mayby not quite as tautly as the Accent. But the shifter! So much better than the Accent's. Short throws, easy to shift, more natural shift position.
I then drove auto trans versions of both cars. The Accent had noticibly less pull, and the transmission hunted gears alot. The Yaris also suffered greatly with an auto trans, but that auto trans shifted more assuredly then the Accent's.
Get a manual version of these cars if you can, the MT versions are truly fun to shift and the cars feels like they have much more power, the autos take most of the joy out of piloting either of these vehicles.
Utility.
The Accent's seats do not fold flat, there is a lip of maybe 3 inches. Not a deal breaker, but seems like most other makers have figured out how to make the seats fold flat.
The Yaris' seats folded completely flat.
Since both are hatches, a huge amount of room is available when folded flat. The Yaris has 2 integrated trays under the spare tire cover, great place to hid valuables. The Accent has a cargo cover which some have complained that it doesn't raise with the hatch like on previous Accents.
But all in all, either hatch holds a similar amount, the Accent a bit more since its longer than the Yaris.
Value
The Accent SE has far more included content, like ABS brakes, side curtain airbags, disc brakes all around. And of course the Accent has a much better warranty.
The Yaris will have better resale value, but at these prices, depreciation doesn't matter that much if you keep the car for a long time.
Conclusion.
The deciding factor was the shifter in the Yaris, so much nicer than the Accent. So I am pretty sure I will get a Yaris, but I think the Accent is close second. The Accent is more conventional in a positive way, compared to the Yaris' polarizing dash and bug like styling. But I enjoyed driving the Yaris so much better mostly due to the far superior manual transmission, and the styling has grown on me.
Hope this was helpful...
* There is a short-throw shifter kit available for the Accent as a dealer-installed option. I don't know if it's possible to test a car with it installed, but it might make a difference for you.
* The Accent's rear seat DOES fold flat. What you do is, lift the rear seat bottoms up and fold them forward so they are vertical, then drop the seatbacks, which fold flat.
Another thing to consider is that the Yaris scored much better in IIHS crash tests (when equipped with optional side bags) than the Accent. But only 4-door sedans were tested, so it's unclear if the results will translate to the hatchbacks.
I read about the short throw shifter, I am sure it would feel different but probably not a way to test one, since its an after purchase upgrade. Backy, I am now back on the fence about these two cars
Also, I tested another Yaris today, manual with convenience package and weather package, seems to be the normal base package in the midwest. First time I encountered the non split non sliding rear seat. It was fine, it folded flat, I don't think I need the split folding reclining seats.
Also my first test drive at night, the center console is very nicely lit, nice contrast. The dealer is trying to get me the color I want, so new Yaris soon for me!
Also, I drove my friends Mini today, its of course a car with much better suspension bits, brakes, etc. But its HEAVY, the Yaris felt far nimbler. Also the shifter was much easier to use in the Yaris. The Yaris' cargo area is also much larger, as the Yaris is a little longer and much higher than the Mini. :shades:
Are you getting the SAB and ABS options? Tests have shown the Yaris doesn't stop that well w/o ABS, and the side crash results w/o the SABs are not encouraging. I have heard those options are becoming easier to find on the Yaris.
Carmax will special order such options but could give no clear indication of how long it would take. Mulling it over.
Although adding ABS and SAB pushes the car into the 14k territory, and there are other choices in that price range to consider.
Thanks for the heads up on the short throw shifter.
my mileage now is 4,300 from March 9th of 2007.
No problems encountered at all so far. A good gas mileage can be achieve by using high-octane ratings.
Tested:
87 Octane: 27mpg
89 Octane: 31mpg
91 Octane: 33mpg
Do the math
I'm particularly interested in the LiftBack for '08.
I read that the 2008 Corolla is moving up in size and scope, so I'm sure the Yaris (both sedan and LB) will pick up the slack, so to speak, to make up for the Corolla's up-scaling.
Please inform.
Many thanx-
Peace!<- :shades: --
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I really like the styling of the Accent. The SE is my favorite trim, which is argubly the most fun car under 15K available.
As for the Yaris, I am not a big fan of its styling, the front, especially, is a turn-off for me. Styling is subjective - different strokes for different folks I guess.
http://www.phillycars.com/autodetail.asp?DlVin=U604-1FAFP55S8YA194754
Heeheee.
I know when the '06 Accent sedan first came out, some people said the front looked a lot like a Toyota. The back of it reminds me a lot of the last Protege. The back of the Accent hatch reminds me a lot of the last of the true 3-door Civic hatches--not that overweight thing from the recent past, but from the 1996-2000 generation.
And, yes, Toyota's will break down and Toyota will try and get out of reimbursing you for a failed component or part. I have read up enough on it to know it's true. Kia and Hyundai and Mitsu have the best Warranty in the car business and they stand behind it, too.
A good smack of humility would really be in order for Toyota and those that mightily praise them. More power to Hyundai and Kia. And Mitsubishi.
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Add to that what I feel is better car body styling and Toyota is more to be avoided than bought. Toyota and Honda do offer excellent resale values and their reliable reputation are enough for most people to bite. Not I, though.
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Consider however that Hyundai doesn't offer the 5-door Accent here either. Closest you can get is the Rio5, based on the same platform as the Accent, with the same engine.
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Is the Yaris immune to problems? Not from what I see in the Yaris discussions. At least when the Accent has a problem, it's covered for a lot longer than the Yaris is.
Since CR doesn't like the Yaris (but does like just about every other Toyota model very much), they are "know nothing hacks." I suppose Edmunds.com, which also prefers the Accent over the Yaris, is a bunch of know nothing hacks too. Since you chose a car that was thoroughly trounced by the Fit, it's clear you buy the car that you feel meets your needs and not what the professional automotive press says is best. That's fine. Just as it's fine if some people don't think that getting a few more mpg and a little better predicted reliability are sufficient reasons to choose a car.
There must be a lot of pointless people around CarSpace then, since there's lots of comparison discussions here. I guess at least some people find they are a good way to get different opinions on cars they may be considering buying.
Have fun driving your lovely Yaris!
I have had a good amount of time in both the Yaris and the Accent, and would agree with Backy's assessment. I don't own either but the Accent, specifically, the SE trim, would be the one had I become an owner of one of these small cars.
Have you driven the Accent, by the way?
Enjoy your Yaris.
I'd include Mitsubishi but they are not producing rigs in this class at this time.
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its difficult to compare manual trannies, as the rio doesnt have a big enough sample. a 2006 rio sample has to be used since there are only 2 drivers for the 2007.(i believe the 06 rio is the current model). granted there are only 8 samples even with the 06 rio, so that is a pretty small sample.
my experience with toyota has been that ive never had any trouble getting or exceeding epa mileage numbers. with the new 2008 method of figuring mileage, they'll be exceeded by a fair margin.
i really should have looked at the accent rather than the rio. anyway, the 2007 auto accent faired barely better at 26.6 mpg. again a small sample with only 7 drivers. researching all forums discussing any and all subcompacts before making a purchase, i found the trend to be poor mileage (for a subcompact) in the korean makes, while many yaris owners were exceeding epa numbers (im talking 2007 epa numbers-not the new ones which are even lower). the differences were far more than 10%. since mileage is a top priority for me, i did not need to bother driving an accent or rio, as i personally would never accept the type of mileage numbers that actual owners are getting.
* There are only 7 ratings for the 2007 Accent AT and 3 for the MT. Not very large samples, compared to the samples for the 2007 Yaris. The samples for the 2006 Accent (the same car as the 2007 but in sedan form only) are even lower.
* Note that the mpg's for the 2006 Accents are significantly higher than for the 2007s. This is consistent with what I and many other Hyundai owners (per posts in CarSpace et. al.) have experienced, i.e., Hyundai engines are "tight" and get much better fuel economy as they loosen up, beyond 15-20,000 miles or so. Note for example the 2007 AT average is 26.6 while the 2006 average is 30.6, or 15% higher. The MT average is higher for 2006 also. This is consistent with what I saw on the two Hyundais I've owned. They both got 15-20% better fuel economy after the first 15,000 miles or so. (FE actually started going up after a couple thousand miles and kept going up.) After break-in, I had no problem exceeding the EPA numbers. And if you look at the fueleconomy.gov numbers, that is exactly what these Accent drivers are doing, except for the 2007 AT owners (1.4 mpg below the EPA average so far).
If you compare the average mpg of the Yaris MT drivers to that of the 2006 Accent MT drivers, the difference is 2.5 mpg. Not a huge difference. The difference for ATs is bigger, about 4.5 mpg. So if someone likes the Accent but wants the best fuel economy, they really need to get the MT--which is the way to go on small cars like these anyway, IMO.
the yaris has a much larger sampling and i expect no matter how large the yaris sample gets, the numbers wont change much.
like i said, any prospective owners would serve themselves well to thoroughly read mpg sections for any applicable owner forums for these cars. i did and the results were clear. there are a few hyundai owners claiming good mileage, but that simply is not the trend.
im confident that the average accent owner will get around 5-6 mpg less than the average yaris owner. this is around a 15% difference.
with little effort, im averaging 42.3 mpg over 6 tanks with 70/30 highway/city driving in an 07 yaris. this is on an engine that has only around 2500 miles on it. i think i might squeeze 35 mpg out of an accent, but its only a guess.
bottom line is what your priority is and what your confidence level is. i dont think the accent is an awful car overall, but the mileage numbers, imo, are disappointing for a subcompact. (much like the chevy aveo)
Yet you had no problem in your earlier post making generalizations about Yaris vs. Accent fuel economy using this small sample size. :confuse: So if it's OK for you to do that, I guess it's OK for me to do that. Anyway, I'm not just generalizing based on the small sample size on fueleconomy.gov. I am also using as a base many posts here on CarSpace and other forums that confirm that FE on Hyundais goes up significantly as the engine gets some miles. Thus I think it's reasonable to conclude that the FE numbers on fueleconomy.gov for the 2006 Accents are more representative of what to expect from the Accent than the 2007 numbers. And the 2006 numbers show a small difference in fuel economy (about 7%) for the MT, a bigger one for the AT.
I think you would squeeze better than 35 mpg out of an Accent after break-in, given that I have no problem getting low 30s in a 50/50 pattern on a much larger Hyundai (2.0L 138 hp AT) and over 40 mpg on the highway with an MT. A lot depends on driving style however. I would guess from your numbers that, like me, you drive with an eye to FE rather than a lead foot.
i agree that nothing conclusive can be drawn from such a small sample of accents. its only my opinion that a larger sample size would bring the average to close to 30 mpg for an automatic accent, maybe a bit higher for a manual. however, i have to give more validity to the sample size for the yaris. yes, i drive with fuel efficiency in mind, but dont do anything drastic. i mostly watch my shift points and anticipate stop lights and signs. many people dont. much like my 5 speed corolla, my effort in getting 40+ mpg in the yaris is pretty minimal. for many, getting 35 mpg would be fine. for me, its not. my only tank with a solid 50% highway/50% city mix still gave me 40.8 mpg.
regarding insurance rates, there are so many factors to an individuals rates..for comparisons sake, i pay $580 per year on my 07 yaris with AAA, full coverage, michigan, 41 yrs old, completely clean driving record. im very pleased with my rates, but i know certain regions in the country would be much worse for me.
why should an accent be any more to insure? is it because the risk is spread over a smaller number of cars?
I saw a ton of accents at the dealer I went to. I doubt it's a supply issue. I can believe the Fit is a supply issue. Honda is shipping them very slowly.
How many was "a ton"? (Also interesting that you, the proud owner of a Yaris, would be visiting a Hyundai dealer. Looking to trade?