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Land Rover LR2



  • I saw this car last weekend at the Chicago Auto Show and was impressed. I'm surprised to see that is seems smaller than the X3. I thought it looked larger (at least broader and taller)and more spacious inside. Unfortunately they only had one on a turntable and the other was locked so I couldn't do a head to head seating comparison.

    I think in terms of features and pricing, this has the RDX and X3 beat by a mile, however as a potential buyer who doesn't need off road capability the reliability rep of Landrover is going to be a real drawback. Unfortunately I'm going to be in the market too soon to see how the reliabiity plays out.
  • Its too bad the freelander sucked at everything else. Check out the Freelander thread on edmunds. It just might be the least reliable modern vehicle ever made in the west.

    BR, I am really worried about what you just said. I'm a little nervous to be getting the first batch of a "reworked" freelander.

    I've also seen several threads about early model LR3's and Range Rovers that had several quirks that needed to be worked out. Owners were having to take their vehicles in all the time for weird problems.

    My sales rep keeps reassuring me that if anything does happen to go wrong, the warranty will cover everything. Ok, fine. But I don't really want to have a brand new car and be in the shop all the time either, like previous Freelander owners.

    That's one of the reasons I am willing to pay more for new rather than used--I like to be the original owner and know exactly what has gone on with my vehicle from day 1.

    Any words of advice? I really want this car, but not if it's going to give me a headache. Is there any way to be reassured of the LR2's reliability? Or am I just taking a chance and will have to live with it?

    Thanks in advance!
  • The only thing I can tell you is this. Land Rovers have gotten so much better in just the last two or three years that you can't compare the previous relablity to the current. They still have a way to go but they are much better.

    Also the LR2 is not a re-worked freelander. It is an all new vehicle from the ground up based on fords global small care platform EUCD.

    Something else to think about is that Volvo has a lot of developemnt money tied up in the LR2 as the XC60 will be similar and the S80 shares many features as well. That is going to help reliablity a lot.

    Secondly the LR2 is not being built at Land Rover's Solihull plant it is being built at Jaguar's Halewood factory.

    Awards for Halewood.

    Halewood has won award after award for quality and is one of the best plants in europe. Solihull is slowly being reworked into a model of Halewood but it will take time.
  • misswhomisswho Posts: 19
    had the chance to drive/ride in the LR2 yet? Or even just sit inside one? I'm dying to hear a firsthand opinion...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,725
    I sat in one at the Cincinnati auto show, last month..

    Very nice... from the front it looks like a mini-LR3, but definitely Freelander-like from the fenders on back...

    The interior was nice, but it's been so long since I was in a Freelander, I couldn't compare them... Definitely not a whole lot of back seat or hatch space..


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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,325
    when are they going to put a Build Your Own LR2 on the LRUSA site?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • jblaze13jblaze13 Posts: 152
    It certainly didn't make me go "I have to have this vehicle". Conservative design. The interior is going to look plain next to the RDX AND X3. I'm in the market for this type of vehicle and the LR2 just didn't do it for me. I'll wait to see what the drive is like. Hopefully Infiniti won't let me down next month.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,325
    Funny, I don't care for the RDX's styling. I dig the X3, but for the price I'll take a 328i Sports Wagon that performs better and gets better mileage. I really like what I've seen so far of the LR2. I'll have to check out the interior when the NY auto show rolls around. Right now I won't be in the market for a new car for another 2 years when we'll be replacing my wife's 2000 Mazda Protege ES. We've got a 6 month old now. We'll see when his brother/sister comes along to replace her car.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • muddyymuddyy Posts: 60
    Yes, I sat in one today at the dealer in their prep garage (it was there for one day) and got the full private tour. It was a loaded SE Stornoway Grey Metallic with dark eucalyptus wood interior and ebony leather (light black) and as far as we could discern they will all come loaded; this means technology, cold climate and lighting packages, with bluetooth and sirrius, 18" all terrain wide wheels. A lot of the cool stuff is standard, far too much to list (they had brochures and gave me one but it's a lot of reading). I like the heated, memory seats, the backup beeper control, the telescoping sterring wheel and the high sitting position and high rear storage area. The double moon roof is very nice; just the front opens but it's got a neat wind screen and the fit and finish is first class. The Nav is touch screen and state of the art; it's placement is perfect. The subwoofer is on top of the dash and this means a big piece of the dash is black plastic but it's an audio thing to me so it's okay. The push button start is a mystery to date; you have to slide the key fob into a port in the dash under the button, put your foot on the brake then press the button... why so many steps? No one there today could figure it out. The funny thing is, as dumb as the key is, it's still fun to push the button to start and stop the engine.

    The car at first look is beautiful, completely different that the Freelander; physically bigger, longer, wider, and just looks beefier. It's a Volvo platform V6 and it's beautiful and a lot, and I mean "a lot" stronger and faster than the old Freelander (which wasn't too bad) and the "surface conditions" turn knobs are great (I don't care about old school low range). It's got a classic Land Rover look and you will not feel inferior to the Sport or RR; the LR2 is a big, strong looking SUV; I would not call it a Crossover but I suppose people will. The sticker price with all the options was $39,950.

    The Stornoway Grey is very classy but we're waiting to see the Black and the Baltic Blue before we order. We have tested the BMW X3 and the Acura RDX and the Mitshubushi Outlander; and we have looked closely at the lease deals for those cars (loaded, Nav etc). The BMW X3 is a very nice looking SUV but it actually feels a little smaller and less imposing and less classic, and less modern than the LR2. The BMW is looking a little dated and it's dash top add on looking Nav that pops up out of a clamshell plastic drawer reminds me of the Freelander cup holders; it just looks tacky and added on. The LR2 Nav screen is built in the radio console just like the Sport and is state of the art. A loaded BMW X3 is about $42,000 with a lease price of about $490/month (24 months, 12,000 miles, nothing down, minimum due at signing (that's about $2,800).

    The Acura RDX is a really nice 4 cylinder turbo (it's very fast) and the interior is top notch if you like "techy" looks, and the feel and finish inside is first class. The RDX package is great, it's loaded and the Nav is voice activated. It's about the price of the LR2 loaded but the lease price with the BMW spec listed above is over $500/month, it's about $520. The RDX is a great car but it has no styling tradition, it's not "classic" and it feels a liitle bit like a big toy, which I don't like (I think it's for young tech kids in their 20's). The Outlander is a great car loaded, but it's got the same drawbacks as the RDX and the lease price is much higher; the lease makes it a terrible deal for me.

    The LR2 lease is unknown at this point; April is the release on the info. It will probably be competitive with the BMW X3; in my opinion, in this class, the LR2 and BMW X3 are very close and clearly the leaders. But the LR2 gives a stronger impression up close; I think the only reason it's not front page news yet is because a lot of people with opinions haven't sat in both of them yet and haven't looked closely at the "loaded" list and the lease price.
  • misswhomisswho Posts: 19
    Thanks Muddyy!

    Yours is the first account of anyone I've heard that's actually been inside an LR2. I have already placed a deposit on a fully loaded black on black and am getting really anxious. I've done all my research, but now I just need to see it, inside and out. Since you are the only person I know of that's been in one, I hope you don't mind if I ask you some questions.

    Did you get a chance to notice the storage in the front? Is there a handy place to put your phone? Is there a console/is it roomy? I know some other crossovers are boasting you can fit your laptop in the center console. Also, did you happen to see where the MP3 jack is placed?

    Did the one you saw have the pixel metallic trim? I don't even know what that is, but mine is coming with it and I'm wondering what it looks like?

    Sorry for the interrogation--I just can't wait to finally once and for all see it for myself. Thanks in advance for any additional info you can provide!
  • muddyymuddyy Posts: 60
    Hi, I'm not sure about all of your questions but I'll try. There wasn't a pixel metallic trim there and no picture of it in the brochure but there is a swatch of it and it looks like a high end "perf" subtly bumpy thing, half dull silver and half dark gray sort of like a dull salt and pepper dotted metal finish. The wood trim is nice but for some reason I just feel like the pixel metallic might be more approriate for this suv, more sporty and slick; I guess I see this as a younger, modern car and the wood just isn't needed to make it sweet.

    They have an "audio connectivity module" in the brochure that holds an ipod and there is a connection for it or an mp3 (and thus it's a phone holder too). It's placed in the upper left of steering wheel close to the dash and I think the mp3 jack must be near there. Phone hookup is bluetooth of course so it doesn't matter where you put that at all.

    The console is smallish( I think) with a double cup holder front to back placement (not side by side) and a small cubby box but I didn't check it out at all, so sorry about that. I think it was the Acura RDX that had the double decker huge cubby box that could hold a laptop but I just don't know what the Rover has yet.

    You should try to see the pixel metallic before you buy; my guy said they are likely to come in early (April sometime) and I'm sure there will be lot's of black on black loaded. It really doesn't sound like they are worried about getting them in easily since they are all the same model. I really think you can't go wrong with black on black and pixel metal; it sounds perfect to me. The thing about this car is I thought I knew it from driving the old Freelander and from all the internet pictures, and I wasn't sure it was going to impress me; but when you see it close up and sit in it, it's the bomb, bigger (looking), stronger and cooler than anything in it's class. Rover cars and Rover people are different, that's just a fact of life.
  • misswhomisswho Posts: 19
    Thanks for the info--way helpful! I really don't like the old Freelander's appearance--someone mentioned that the back fenders of the LR2 were Freelander-ish. I hope the LR2 doesn't resemble the old Freelander at all. I'm already in love with this vehicle--I've researched it to death and am very impressed with everything it offers--on and off road, interior amenities, etc. The last test is what it looks like. And if it's ugly (ugly=old Freelander), that will be a deal-breaker for me. I'm crossing my fingers till April. Thanks again!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,725
    You can see it on the Land Rover website... Do you have the Land Rover ad on the left-hand side of the page? Just click on it.



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  • misswhomisswho Posts: 19
    Yes, thanks kyfdx. I have already exhausted the LR websites, US and British--since they have different movies and pics on both. Going from the pictures alone, the LR2 looks great. But I've noticed that LR (and several other makers) shoot pics--especially the compact suv's--from certain angles to make them look bigger, wider, etc.

    I've also viewed all the LR2 clips on youtube, trying to get a better feel for what the vehicle looks like in real life. I've even photoshopped some side-by-side pics of the LR2 and Freelander from similar angles to see how they compare.

    I think I'm going nuts waiting for my car to get here, having never seen one for myself. So that's why I've been (and still am) looking for people who have, unlike me, actually seen an LR2 up close =D
  • sekhonsekhon Posts: 4
    what is the miles per gallon on the land rover lr2 and does it take premium gas or regular :)
  • vinnieg1vinnieg1 Posts: 53
    19 city and 31 hwy on premium
  • tony411latony411la Posts: 14
    As impressed as I am with the LR2, I am still slightly puzzled about it coming out in only the SE trim level. :confuse: I guess adding the Technology, Lighting and Cold Weather options would put it at an HSE trim level. But why didn't they just make an HSE level with all those features thrown in. I guess what I'm saying is I want an LR2 that says HSE. I could always have the "H" painted on. :)
  • jhbeckjhbeck Posts: 2
    The information about sales so far seem to suggest that there are a good number of the vehicles coming in still not sold. I put a deposit down a week or so ago and had quite a choice. I am guessing that the pricing is a little too high to spur lots of sales, at least initially.

    Does anyone know what the lease rates will be? Is there any sense of whether there will be an effort to have dealer premiums or, perhaps, even discounts off MSRP?
  • macr32macr32 Posts: 12
    Took one out on a test drive over at Mt. Kisco, NY last week. I believe it's the same one Muddy sat in...

    muddyy, "2008 Land Rover LR2" #131, 17 Mar 2007 3:53 pm

    I liked it so much I left one of my cars as a down payment, I take delivery of the LR2 I drove as soon as LandRover gives the Dealership the OK to release it.
  • jhbeckjhbeck Posts: 2 now has full LR2 information and "Build Your Land Rover" now includes the LR2. Click on the LR2 button along the left side or the LR2 button along the top of the first page. Build a LR2 by clicking either the "Build Your Land Rover" button along the bottom of the first page or by first clicking on one of the LR2 buttons on the first page and then clicking on the "A Guide to Purchasing" button and then the "Build Your LR2" button.
  • lrfandclrfandc Posts: 1
    I saw one yesterday, Ive been waiting anxiously for this thing to hit the showrooms for several months now.

    Very impressed with the car - very happy that you can get a fully loaded w/all accessories for 39k. As soon as my color and options arrive, Im buying one of these bad puppies.

    Im holding out for the tambora flame.
  • verdugoverdugo Posts: 2,284
    checkout tinyurl . com (w/o spaces of course)

    It's really simple to use. And thanks for the URL.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    Err that does not fit what I have seen at all.

    The documents I have seen give the LR2 a 18/25 mpg using the old EPA test and a 18/23 mpg on the new test.
  • I believe the mpg figures were lifted right from the UK website rformance.htm, and then not corrected for the use of Imperial gallons. You need to divide by 1.2 to convert Imperial mpg to US mpg. That would give: city 15, highway 27.5, and combined 21. That would still be respectable but I wonder what real world mpg will be. From what I have read on a Freelander 2 web forum, the Brits are all driving manual TD4 Freelander 2s and getting close to the stated mileage, around 30-45 mpg (Imperial) which converts to 25-37 mpg US. I am hoping that Land Rover (er Ford) will have the wisdom to import the manual TD4 over the pond in the near future. Any word on that?
  • muddyymuddyy Posts: 60
    A new LR2 commercial is running now, saw it on CBS, very cool volcano action; really hot car.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,325
    I'm really impressed with the price point they've come in at. There seems to be some really great engineering in this truck from the I6 motor to the Terrain Response System. I can't wait to see the sheet metal in person. I'm sure the interior will be nothing short of spectacular.

    It stacks up very well against the competition. The RDX just doesn't do it for me. I really dig the X3 and it will be difficult to compete with BMWs driving dynamics. We'll have to drive 'em and find out!

    I can't wait to hear what british_rover thinks about the LR2.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • Does anyone know if you can use the X-Plan for the LR2? I know you can use it for the RR, Sport and the LR3 (and get 4% above invoice).

    Anyone try to use it for the new LR2 - if so, what's the discount from the $39,500 loaded price?

  • I think it depends on the dealership. The salesman I met last weekend at the Dallas Auto Show said it would be available on the X-Plan. I am going for a test drive later today, will let you know if he gives me the same answer, as well as the price for a loaded one.
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