I did not top off the Yaris with gas when I took delivery of it so I didn't do any calculations with that tank. Next tank I made sure to set the trip meter to zero and then drove until my tank was less than half full (according to the gas gauge). I have the Yaris Sedan, A/T
1st tank -- 30.1 MPG (100% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway) 2nd tank -- 34.2 MPG (60% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway)
I've read on another Yaris forum that it depends on how you drive your Yaris. My Yaris prefers going 80 mph on the freeway. I've toned it down to 70 mph with some sections where I go 75 mph.
I get a kick out of those that know exactly how much city, and how much highway they drive. Do you guys actually measure the city driving, than the highway driving miles, than do some additional math or such ?
I have a 2006 Honda EX Coupe, Auto trans, with Nav, and only drive the city. No highway driving period. I got about 25 mpg when brand new, and now get 26.7 miles per gallon with 3,000 miles on it, and use the air part of the day in a lot of stop, and go traffic. Was thinking of the Yaris at one point, but will hold off my next purchase until a better hybrid car comes along.
Your gas mileage will improve over time, but its a dissapointment for those that are getting about what I get
Personally I am VERY aware of that AND the EPA "dream" numbers. But 10-11 MPG diffeance? Wish I kept my PT Cruiser that had "soul", POWER, COMFORT, safety, style and just so much more......Now, IF my numbers change to 30 PLUS on city ONLY driving, all will be forgiven. But otherwise, this car is just another SAD mistake. (For ME!) Mike
Mine is an estimate. I mainly do city driving so I make a note on a notepad in my car when I do go on the freeway/highway and how many miles I use. From there I just calculate the percentage.
When I'm driving around town and it's not too hot outside (over 90 degrees needs A/C during some parts of the day) I have the windows down. Once I get on the freeway I roll up my windows. I think one of the biggest reasons my MPG has improved was I used the A/C less on the second tank.
I have to say that I think it is complete BS that running the AC would reduce mpg by 10. I just don't buy that. also, I realize that real world mpg are never going to match the company line's perfect course ideal circumstances, but still, 10 mpg off is a bit extreme!
Also the ethanol laced gas is a load of hooey. even if we are...which I seriously doubt...it wouldn't be that high of a percentage, so it would not be reducing my mpg this dramatically.
I'm pissed and my dealership will be hearing about it until I see an improvement. :lemon:
I own a small 4-cyl A/T (Aveo) and the difference between my best highway mileage and congested, block-to-block city driving with AC on can indeed be 10 MPG.
I think it's the nature of the beast. A low horsepower engine with an automatic getting up to speed with AC drawing some of that power is lousy for gas mileage. A more powerful 6 or 8-cyl doesn't strain as much in the city and shows less of a drop in mileage.
My 1st tank in almost all city stop & go=27.3 MPG. My 2nd tank in ALL stop & go city-26.7 MPG. My car is the 3 door liftback auto trans. This car SUCKS with numbers like this! I also only used the a/c about 50-60% of the time. I DO understand summer fuel blends etc, but I want my "REAL" car back!
Look for mine going up for sale on San Diego Craiglist! I am NOT kidding either..... Mike
Liftback automatic: Driving in WI where gas prices are $3.17
first tank- about 33 mpg second tank- about 34 mpg third tank- about 33 mpg fourth tank- about 37 mpg
However, we made the dumb mistake of driving in 3rd gear for about the first week, buzzing along on the highways. I was so upset at first until I realized our mistake (thanks to another Yaris forum here).
Does this mean you are mostly HIGHWAY? -ALSO, you should never use overdrive "in town" as it is hard on brakes AND the transmission. You probably know this already (?), but just checking as a retired Service Manager....
Sure wish I had your results! Now I have Yaris envy..... Mike :-)
I did the same thing. I was thinking this may have caused my bad mileage on the first fill up... but i dont think so because im almost up for my second fill up and it looks to be WORSE than the fist. Lucynethel ... im getting basically the same numbers as you and im just as pissed off about it. What state are you from (city?). Im in NYC and im doing like 90/10 city/highway. The longest ive been in the car in one trip is 15 minutes (and most of my trips are around 5 minutes, then stop & park, then 5 more minutes - stop and park, and so). Im wondering if this could be causing the bad mileage? Really, im looking for any sort of explanation because I really am pissed that im getting such crappy numbers compared to other Yaris owners. Makes me sad (and curious if i just got a dud).
Im wondering if this could be causing the bad mileage? Really, im looking for any sort of explanation because I really am pissed that im getting such crappy numbers compared to other Yaris owners.
Your type of driving is not conducive to high mileage numbers. You can't compare to the others on this forum that have mixed driving or mostly highway. Stop-and-go with short trips isn't likely to get you much more than mid-to-high twenties with an automatic.
Wait 'til winter with warm-ups and a richer fuel mixture -- those short trips will probably cost a couple of MPGs as well.
It's highly unlikely that you and others with poor fuel economy have "duds" -- it's the type of driving plus nearly-new cars that aren't even close to being broken in. You probably won't see maximum MPG until after 10,000 miles or so, from my experience.
Driving with overdrive on is not a problem for A/T. However, you want to take off when driving in hilly situations. You should leave your overdrive on during most driving conditions. Around town your car would not even use overdrive anyway so no harm is done. However, on the highway with overdrive on, your car will automatically go into the smoother higher gear.
Overdrive in MY stop & go big city driving will cost a LOT of extra money in premature brake wear as there is NO engine braking in O/D mode. The tranny also works itself MUCH harder. 22 years as an auto repair service manager has taught me this as well as provided me with a good living. I ALWAYS provided my customers this info to help SAVE them money in maintenance costs.
In most US Cities that are less urbanized should be just fine. But in MY "WARZONE" of airheads & gridlock, NO way! And during engine break in, the engine braking is IMPORTANT for both the motor AND trans to break in properly by NOT using the Overdrive if at all possible (in MY road condtions). Mike
honestly reading on this site and others with drivers that have similiar driving that i have are getting over 30mpg.
I just filled up today. I got 24mpg! thats down from the first fill up of 27! Im SUPER pissed off.
I had the guy at the gas station check my tires and the two back tires were low. he filled it up and i do notice a difference in the drive (must smoother over bumps). So could this explain the terrible Mpg ive been getting??
Imagine riding your bicycle with a soft or flat tire. It's harder to ride than when the tires are properly inflated. How low was your tire pressure anyhow?
I got gas again today so I'm adding to my list of fill ups. Keep in mind these are estimates on percentage of A/C, City, Hwy Use. I don't actually log each trip made with my car. I do figure out how many miles it takes to do my regular trips on the freeway and I jot down freeway miles when I go to new places.
1st tank -- 30.1 MPG (100% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway) 2nd tank -- 34.2 MPG (60% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway) 3rd tank -- 36.7 MPG (80% A/C, 45% City/55% Freeway)
I am averaging 37.2MPG in my Yaris S standard with air on almost all of the time (warm in Phoenix this time of year!) I drive about 72 miles each day, and about 20 of those miles are in stop and go traffic. I have noticed that driving aggressively REALLY cuts the mileage, much more so than the V8 truck I used to drive. (but the difference between 15 MPG and 13 MPG is not as noticible at $90+ a fill up!!) I did have one tank at 33 MPG, but I was consciously shifting later and not using 5th gear much at all. Overall I don't have any gripes yet. (except the seatbelt chimes, but that will be changed shortly!)
I don't blame all of you who are upset about your mpg in the 20s. So disappointing! Just as an update, we are getting about 35 mpg average lately with the automatic trans. Lots of highway driving- with the air on probably about 3/4 of the time.
But I wanted to return to the question some of you have been responding to... I am still a bit worried that I drove it in overdrive for its first week. I was wondering if any of you out there might tell me any of the consequences of that- or anything I can do now to make sure that I didn't screw anything up too bad. (Frankly, I don't even know what overdrive is for- the dealer said something about using it for towing the car?)
I just ran through a tank of non-ethanol blend gasoline and got the same ~30 mpg so its not ethanol's fault. I do drive fast and use the air most of the time, but I sure hope my mileage improves as the engine breaks in.
I just did my first oil change and used synthetic oil - maybe that will help.
This is Emelia again. I wanted to corret my hastily written previous email. I meant that I was NOT in overdrive, but instead using the 3rd gear (in the automatic trans.). It was too hot here yesterday and I think my brain cells were melting.
3rd tank fill up today. City driving ONLY here in San Diego, liftback with auto trans NOW down to 26.1 MPG. Pink due ANT day and for sale if anyone wants it! Mike
Got 38.3 in town on my last fill up with Manual Hatchback. Both Manual and Automatic rated at 34 in town. You had better hurry and sell that thing to someone that knows how to drive a little more conservatively than you do before you drag the Yaris MPG average down more than you already have. Fill the tires up to the maximum cold pressure allowed, look down the road and try to time the lights. Every time you hit your brakes you are dragging down your MPG. No jack rabbit starts, pretend that you have a raw egg between your foot and the gas pedal.
You need to read up pal. I am a retired SERVICE MANAGER specializing in Toyota's! I have ALSO qualified my statements on MY mileage a dozen times here, INCLUDING the probable "disparities" of MY "city" mileage vs magazine and TV program "city" results. Nonetheless!!!!!!!! MY urban area does NOT net any results even REMOTELY similar to the "HYPE" surrounding this "car"...... As a former Law Enforcement employee, Service Manager, I KNOW the criteria for achieving GOOD mileage. I ALSO know B.S. when I see it! If anyone not abusing drugs IS REALLY getting this mileage, must be a VERY different world than I live in!
And for the record, there are a LOT of folks getting MY results as well and I doubt we are all idiots......
26.1 for all city driving is actually good mileage. Consumer Reports studies show mileage for city and highway (real life, not the EPA cycle) for most cars being WAY lower than the EPA sticker. The Auto Club ran a study on some sample cars and confirmed. Even the EPA is going to restate their figures so fewer people are disappointed.
The two biggest factors affecting mileage are:
1. Driving style;
2. Where you drive (city or freeway, freeflowing or congested, lot of idling or verry little).
You've assured us that you aren't a "jackrabbit" style driver and read the road ahead. So it has to be your local driving conditions.
BTW, I used to assume I was the consummate freeway driver - 35 miles to work, relatively free flowing traffic, short distances from freeway to offramp at each end. I fly on the freeway, so I expected to see mph on my trip computer reading high. Instead it was 43 mph with ONLY my commute, dropping to 37 mph average if I threw in some weekend errands.
So I guess the "city" miles impact the overall picture pretty strongly.
I reiterate - your 26.1 mpg on city driving only is great. My former Scion xA stick shift (very similar weight and almost identical engine), driven on my freeway commute, returned between 33-35 mpg per tank - and since the car was covered all day, I hardly used the aircon. I suspect you have an automatic and use the aircon to cool the car down after being in the sun. That is another mileage factor.
Finally, as to your comments about other drivers being on drugs in reporting mileage, I think that metaphorically you are right. We tend to calculate inexactly, round numbers, and don't have consistent fill habits (same gas pump at the same station, same direction car, let it fill and auto shut off, jam hose back in and let it autoshutoff a second time - you have to jam the nozzle way down to avoid an overfill that will soak your charcoal evaporative filter). When I started saving every gas receipt, using a calculator to figure out individual refills, then averaging over many tanks, my "mileage" wasn't what I thought it was.
I think at this point you are taking a different drug from the "high mileage reporters". They were on Optimism, you are on Disappointment - cognitive dissonance. But I think if want to settle this for good, subscribe online to Consumer Reports and see their real, carefully calibrated test results for REAL city mileage, REAL steady state freeway cruising (this number is actually way high) and 150 mile freeway trip. THEN your Yaris mileage will come out smelling like a rose.
Well I DO get C/U also for about 15 years now. ALL my gas fills are at the SAME Exxon Mobil station, NO top offs etc. Identical stats to establish a baseline. I am so happy for those who are having great results. Me? I just want another "REAL" car. My Pontiac Vibe SUPERCHARGED got the EXACT SAME MILEAGE as this "TOY car! Same roads, same gas station. And with that much larger car, with FAR more comfort and versatility, SAME Toyota reliability it just seems like a HUGE "penalty box" for ME anyway to settle for this over hyped little "car"....
As a retired SERVICE MANAGER and Law Enforcement Employee I am sure that you are used to putting a car through it paces; if you want to get good gas mileage you have to baby a car. I can assure that I do not use drugs, buy my gas (not an oxygenated summer blend that is sold in high air pollution areas) at the same place every time, fill until it clicks off, take the gas amount off the receipt listed to 3 decimal points and know how to use a calculator. The only reasonable conclusion that I can come to is that the idiots are at EPA when they say manual and automatic transmissions get the same mileage. The manual transmission obviously gets 12 more miles per gallon in city driving.
The only reasonable conclusion that I can come to is that the idiots are at EPA when they say manual and automatic transmissions get the same mileage. The manual transmission obviously gets 12 more miles per gallon in city driving.
conservative driving habits (no fast starts, sticking to the speed limit on the highway, stuff like that) can save 20-25% in gas mileage, in fact CU (I think it was) just recently published a "tips" list what with the gas prices so high, and I believe they repeated this figure.
If lhanson is driving conservatively and lucynthel is not, you would expect lucy's mileage to be perhaps 25% worse, which would be 28.5. Subtract 1 point for AT vs MT and you are at 27.5 - very much in the ballpark, as it were.
That is before you get to driving PATTERN - is every drive 2-3 miles, with cold starts in between? Or are there longer drives in lhanson's routine, but not in lucy's? Stuff like that. With these little engines, my experience has always been that actual mileage can vary a lot depending on driving style and pattern.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I have the Yaris S sedan, auto, power package. I keep detailed records on my mileage. So far my total for 2300 miles is 36.5 mpg. This has been a low of 32.4 to a high of 39.5 Driving styles is combined highway (best mileage) and commuting mileage in Atlanta suburbs (worst mileage). My commute is about 60 miles/day. I575 and I75 can either move at 75, or you can be sitting, bumper to bumper. However the pattern is that when school starts next week, there is more stop and go on the Interstate than what I have had so far. There can be very wide variables in city driving. You could supposedly get as low as 0 mpg, if you never moved, with the engine running. However traffic does move some. It is how you drive when it is moving that determines your mileage. My wife has driven about half of my miles and kept the same records for me. We both have similiar results on mileage. Highway driving though, we don't wait around. If traffic is moving 75, we are going 75. So far I have been pleased with results. I think we can break 40 if 100% highway, and keep speed down. I do have my tires inflated to 35.
got exactly 36 MPG in my Yaris liftback (manual) with A/C on constantly and mixed driving including driving up and down a mountain (5800 feet) each day. So not too bad. I was hoping for a bit more, but considering my hubby drove half those miles and he's a leadfoot I think it will do better the next time.
Well at least you haven't lost your sense of humor yet. Hope you have better luck with your doctors than your cars. There are more important things in life that gas mileage and cars. John 3:16
Thanks. And to everyone who DOES get great mileage, I am thrilled for them. I live in the most congested area here with 5 minute red lights and gridlock daily. I LOVE the fact I can make a U turn IN MY DRIVEWAY though! It really is a love/hate thing "for me". I also am as much upset at my health getting so much worse than expected so "soon"......Probably has me looking for a target? I DO have to say it is without any douubt the CUTEST little car I have ever seen.
craiglist San Diego - two Yaris hatchbacks for sale, lucy's and one other, both under 2000 miles, both selling (from what I can tell) for full original transaction price including fees, plus about an $800 mark-up in the case of the blazing blue 5 speed.
Hmmmmmm.........folks are doing the same thing with the Honda Fit - buying them and then marking them up for resale. I hate when individual models are this scarce, gets people doing some dubious things.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Me too.Though I am selling MINE for about $200.00 LESS than I have put into it! And I got Cancer JUST to sell my car. Figured it MAY help the sale along and all...... :P
True. I wonder if the "other guy" is for real though. It's a 5 speed without spoiler or any of the stuff I added? Kind of a "snake" thing to do if the intent is to just skin someone for cash though....
I am having SO MUCH "angst" about selling my "cute little car"......I named it Beetlejuice because of it's love/hate thing I have for it's bedeviling affect on me! I woke up a 4AM today remembering a Scion I heard last week with a custom exhaust. TRUST me! THIS motor sounds BEAUTIFUL with the righe pipe on it! Enough to make me keep mine forever. Only problem is, I never get to usw it, "forever" may not be so long for me, and I just don't have the money! Worst of al, I have no idea what system, muffler, pipe etc he was running on his Scion XB... Soft, deep, NOT loud at all. Just a mellow but STRONG music still ringing in my old ears. I almost hope nobody wants my car in case I get better. Hell, I almost want that exhaust system more than I want to get well!
I'd keep the Yaris. It won't go down much in value over the next year and you might as well "play" with it until then - you're already invested in it. I don't think your gas mileage is that big a deal - in the big scheme of things it is more of an annoyance than a real defect.
You can get a Magnaflow exhaust very inexpensively at most muffler shops, to get the sound you are looking for, or you can buy a TRD muffler for the Scion xA, which is tuned for this family of motors. Personally I liked the growl of the Yaris Liftback I drove.
Dang that mercedes horn ad goes off and scares the hell out of me when I go to my tracked items. I don't know where to complain so I am whining here. moderators can delete this if they want to. please pass the complaint on though.
Here's an experiment for anyone complaining of poor city mileage in their Yaris (or any other car)...when accelerating from a stop, don't let the car get over 3K RPM on the tach. See how that effects your mileage and please report. I'm still on my first tank and that's how I'm trying to drive so I'm interested to know.
Ok, I went up north which is a 600 mile round trip and I made got 41 mpg with a/c on in 90 degree weather. I was so surprised when I found out, because in the city I get like 28 mpg at best. I really would like to drive like an old lady but I'm not into going from 0 to 30 in 15 seconds, if that actually makes the gas mileage better. By the way I have 1700 miles on it so its not broken in that much yet.
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1st tank -- 30.1 MPG (100% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway)
2nd tank -- 34.2 MPG (60% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway)
I've read on another Yaris forum that it depends on how you drive your Yaris. My Yaris prefers going 80 mph on the freeway. I've toned it down to 70 mph with some sections where I go 75 mph.
I have a 2006 Honda EX Coupe, Auto trans, with Nav, and only drive the city. No highway driving period. I got about 25 mpg when brand new, and now get 26.7 miles per gallon with 3,000 miles on it, and use the air part of the day in a lot of stop, and go traffic. Was thinking of the Yaris at one point, but will hold off my next purchase until a better hybrid car comes along.
Your gas mileage will improve over time, but its a dissapointment for those that are getting about what I get
Mike
When I'm driving around town and it's not too hot outside (over 90 degrees needs A/C during some parts of the day) I have the windows down. Once I get on the freeway I roll up my windows. I think one of the biggest reasons my MPG has improved was I used the A/C less on the second tank.
Also the ethanol laced gas is a load of hooey. even if we are...which I seriously doubt...it wouldn't be that high of a percentage, so it would not be reducing my mpg this dramatically.
I'm pissed and my dealership will be hearing about it until I see an improvement. :lemon:
I think it's the nature of the beast. A low horsepower engine with an automatic getting up to speed with AC drawing some of that power is lousy for gas mileage. A more powerful 6 or 8-cyl doesn't strain as much in the city and shows less of a drop in mileage.
My 2nd tank in ALL stop & go city-26.7 MPG. My car is the 3 door liftback auto trans. This car SUCKS with numbers like this! I also only used the a/c about 50-60% of the time. I DO understand summer fuel blends etc, but I want my "REAL" car back!
Look for mine going up for sale on San Diego Craiglist! I am NOT kidding either.....
Mike
Driving in WI where gas prices are $3.17
first tank- about 33 mpg
second tank- about 34 mpg
third tank- about 33 mpg
fourth tank- about 37 mpg
However, we made the dumb mistake of driving in 3rd gear for about the first week, buzzing along on the highways. I was so upset at first until I realized our mistake (thanks to another Yaris forum here).
-ALSO, you should never use overdrive "in town" as it is hard on brakes AND the transmission. You probably know this already (?), but just checking as a retired Service Manager....
Sure wish I had your results! Now I have Yaris envy.....
Mike :-)
Your type of driving is not conducive to high mileage numbers. You can't compare to the others on this forum that have mixed driving or mostly highway. Stop-and-go with short trips isn't likely to get you much more than mid-to-high twenties with an automatic.
Wait 'til winter with warm-ups and a richer fuel mixture -- those short trips will probably cost a couple of MPGs as well.
It's highly unlikely that you and others with poor fuel economy have "duds" -- it's the type of driving plus nearly-new cars that aren't even close to being broken in. You probably won't see maximum MPG until after 10,000 miles or so, from my experience.
Mike
Kevin
In most US Cities that are less urbanized should be just fine. But in MY "WARZONE" of airheads & gridlock, NO way! And during engine break in, the engine braking is IMPORTANT for both the motor AND trans to break in properly by NOT using the Overdrive if at all possible (in MY road condtions).
Mike
I just filled up today. I got 24mpg! thats down from the first fill up of 27! Im SUPER pissed off.
I had the guy at the gas station check my tires and the two back tires were low. he filled it up and i do notice a difference in the drive (must smoother over bumps). So could this explain the terrible Mpg ive been getting??
I got gas again today so I'm adding to my list of fill ups. Keep in mind these are estimates on percentage of A/C, City, Hwy Use. I don't actually log each trip made with my car. I do figure out how many miles it takes to do my regular trips on the freeway and I jot down freeway miles when I go to new places.
1st tank -- 30.1 MPG (100% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway)
2nd tank -- 34.2 MPG (60% A/C, 80% City/20% Freeway)
3rd tank -- 36.7 MPG (80% A/C, 45% City/55% Freeway)
I don't blame all of you who are upset about your mpg in the 20s. So disappointing! Just as an update, we are getting about 35 mpg average lately with the automatic trans. Lots of highway driving- with the air on probably about 3/4 of the time.
But I wanted to return to the question some of you have been responding to... I am still a bit worried that I drove it in overdrive for its first week. I was wondering if any of you out there might tell me any of the consequences of that- or anything I can do now to make sure that I didn't screw anything up too bad. (Frankly, I don't even know what overdrive is for- the dealer said something about using it for towing the car?)
Thanks in advance for your help.
-Emelia
I just did my first oil change and used synthetic oil - maybe that will help.
Mike
And for the record, there are a LOT of folks getting MY results as well and I doubt we are all idiots......
The two biggest factors affecting mileage are:
1. Driving style;
2. Where you drive (city or freeway, freeflowing or congested, lot of idling or verry little).
You've assured us that you aren't a "jackrabbit" style driver and read the road ahead. So it has to be your local driving conditions.
BTW, I used to assume I was the consummate freeway driver - 35 miles to work, relatively free flowing traffic, short distances from freeway to offramp at each end. I fly on the freeway, so I expected to see mph on my trip computer reading high. Instead it was 43 mph with ONLY my commute, dropping to 37 mph average if I threw in some weekend errands.
So I guess the "city" miles impact the overall picture pretty strongly.
I reiterate - your 26.1 mpg on city driving only is great. My former Scion xA stick shift (very similar weight and almost identical engine), driven on my freeway commute, returned between 33-35 mpg per tank - and since the car was covered all day, I hardly used the aircon. I suspect you have an automatic and use the aircon to cool the car down after being in the sun. That is another mileage factor.
Finally, as to your comments about other drivers being on drugs in reporting mileage, I think that metaphorically you are right. We tend to calculate inexactly, round numbers, and don't have consistent fill habits (same gas pump at the same station, same direction car, let it fill and auto shut off, jam hose back in and let it autoshutoff a second time - you have to jam the nozzle way down to avoid an overfill that will soak your charcoal evaporative filter). When I started saving every gas receipt, using a calculator to figure out individual refills, then averaging over many tanks, my "mileage" wasn't what I thought it was.
I think at this point you are taking a different drug from the "high mileage reporters". They were on Optimism, you are on Disappointment - cognitive dissonance. But I think if want to settle this for good, subscribe online to Consumer Reports and see their real, carefully calibrated test results for REAL city mileage, REAL steady state freeway cruising (this number is actually way high) and 150 mile freeway trip. THEN your Yaris mileage will come out smelling like a rose.
are you saying you get 46 city? fantastic.
If lhanson is driving conservatively and lucynthel is not, you would expect lucy's mileage to be perhaps 25% worse, which would be 28.5. Subtract 1 point for AT vs MT and you are at 27.5 - very much in the ballpark, as it were.
That is before you get to driving PATTERN - is every drive 2-3 miles, with cold starts in between? Or are there longer drives in lhanson's routine, but not in lucy's? Stuff like that. With these little engines, my experience has always been that actual mileage can vary a lot depending on driving style and pattern.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
There can be very wide variables in city driving. You could supposedly get as low as 0 mpg, if you never moved, with the engine running. However traffic does move some. It is how you drive when it is moving that determines your mileage.
My wife has driven about half of my miles and kept the same records for me. We both have similiar results on mileage. Highway driving though, we don't wait around. If traffic is moving 75, we are going 75.
So far I have been pleased with results. I think we can break 40 if 100% highway, and keep speed down. I do have my tires inflated to 35.
Oops, there went the LAST of my "manhood".....
Mike out.
Hmmmmmm.........folks are doing the same thing with the Honda Fit - buying them and then marking them up for resale. I hate when individual models are this scarce, gets people doing some dubious things.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
If he had the power package with alloys, I might have made him an offer $1000 lower though...
:-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
You can get a Magnaflow exhaust very inexpensively at most muffler shops, to get the sound you are looking for, or you can buy a TRD muffler for the Scion xA, which is tuned for this family of motors. Personally I liked the growl of the Yaris Liftback I drove.
You're pretending to have cancer? Huh?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)