In the past 18 months, my wife has had 23 surgeries for Cancer. I have had 6 MAJOR surgeries. My sig file has something I recommend for anyone who gives a damned......
I also just told a serious buyer this morning that I am going to try KEEPING this car awhile longer. i am getting info this week on beginning physical therapy. Won't ever work again (NO pension yet either!), but am told I should be able to drive all I need in just a few weeks as long as not to wiped out from meds etc.....
This car may NOT get the gas mileage I wanted in town but MY town is an EXTREME gridlock situation. The car DOES give me the extreme smallness I was after for ease of parking and mobility. Kind of like my wife's Vespa with 4 wheels and a set of airbags! Has that same "something" that just sets this car apart! I love it for what it "is". Just get discouraged when I get sick I guess.....
So, for NOW, I have turned away a buyer with cash. Going to try to make this thing work for me. Or SHOULD say, try to make ME work for IT! Mike
Yeah, extreme gridlock and lots of short trips is a formula for getting well below the EPA city rating gas-wise. :-(
They have barely changed the weight, power, and gearing from the last gen when it was called the Echo in the U.S., and lots of folks were getting mpg in the 30s in town, even with the automatic. So I think the car is capable of it, but just being limited by the pattern of use you have for it.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I agree. And i DO mean gridlock! To leave my residential area home, I make 2 turns and wait 5 FULL minutes at a red light just to cross a new "expressway". It goes on from there. I live in an EXTREME traffic area. While never expecting EPA numbers, ALL my prior Toyota product still managed to get them until the Yaris however. In fact, my wife's new 06 Tacoma Access Cab 2WD 4 Cyl. Auto trans DOES get an honest 22 MPG in this same driving area! I thing THAT is what set me off the worst! This (as you know) is a BIG midsize truck with a BIG 4 Cyl. motor. The engineering feat to achieve the power, handling, COMFORT, AND an HONEST 22 MPG where I live is a pure & simple miricle! I better shut up or I'll just get depressed anf jealous again.....
Has 2 of those AND 2 Metropolitans too. BUT......it's simply SCARY what you find LIVING in the "bike lane" trying to not get run over. My 650 2 cy;. EFi scooter flat blew the DOORS off my Harley. But then, what wouldn't?
Ah yes, but does your wife have a different pattern of use for her truck? Does she take it on longer trips, for instance. The differences are all in the little details like that.
I've been thinking of trading my 4Runner for a 4-cyl 2WD Tacoma (stick though) - good to know it hits its EPA numbers pretty well. The Runner in my use makes its highway number of 20 mpg all the time, so I think I could get close to 30 mpg in the Tacoma. Just idle thoughts for now...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
She has used her truck in the exact same way (work & back 5 days per week then weekend errands & shopping. Did that for 6 months on her truck. THEN, when I couldn't drive anymore, she "stole" my little car (now named BEETLEJUICE). She did the EXACT same routine for a month. 26-29 MPG on my Yaris auto lift back 2 door.....
Funny too, she traded in her 96 4 Runner 2WD V6 auto for her Tacoma. HER 4 Runner averaged 19 MPG UNTIL the end when we sold it with 105K on it. It had dropped to around 16-18 MPG and BARELY passed smog. Looked like the EGR was going south and probably the 02 sensor too based on my print out. This again, was the EXACT "driving routine". She bought the 4 Runner new as well. My 2006PT Cruiser (bought new on Dec 31), with a base 4 cyl., 5 speed stick NON turbo got 18.9 to 22 MPG on this same routine. No matter WHAT she drives, she drives the SAME way, to the same places. Like a DINGBAT from Hell......
Is anyone here other than myself reporting their MPG results at www.fueleconomy.gov. It is very useful to prospective buyers, easy to set up and report, almost anonymous (the only ID on you that is reported to the public is your state of residence), and gives you a permanent record of your results. I wouldn't recommend it to Lucynethel, as the site will probably lead to further depression.
Who in their right mind would buy an Automatic Transmission if fuel economy is a priority? It makes no sense. If you bought an automatic and actually believed it gave almost identical gas mileage as a 5 speed then I have a bridge to sell you! IMHO not only are Automatics BORING, they also are nothing more than a liability. Maintenance is an issue and you end up getting 34-36 MPG instead of 41-43 MPG. A 5 speed driven at RPM's of 2-3 thousand will easily give 40MPG and if you BABY IT you can squeeze 43MPG outta this car! Anyone who complains about mileage needs to understand its not the cars fault, its their choice of transmissions and or their driving habits. HELL OF A GREAT CAR FOR 12K!!
I love Lucy & Ethel, don't you Fred, I mean yaris46. I think you stepped on his toes. You can't question anything he says though, because he used to be a Automotive Service Manager. We all know what an honorable profession that can be, right up there with an ambulance chasing lawyer.
I've added a few thousand more miles since my last post. Mine is a red Yaris S, with auto and power package, running air most of time. Mileage is still good. I now have put 4312 miles on the car, and used 122.82 gal, for an average of 35.11. Since Atlanta suburbs traffic has gotten worse with start of school, my mileage has gone down a little. Also have not had any road trips in awhile. So far my best tank, 39.6, and worst tank, 31.7. Still think I can break 40 if 100% highway.
I commute about 110 round everyday; some highway, some highway around Indy and some just side streets. I am averaging about 35 to 36. Not bad compared to my Jeep which was giving me 15 to 18 on the average.
I have an automatic and I usually get 40mpg besides being summer it doesn't hurt either-I live in a place where it snows. I'm driving conservatively but not like a grandma. I do agree with you stick is fun to play with, I'm still learning but you have to realize you only get those better milage if you shift at the correct shift points to maximze your fuel economy and if you want to have fun with a stick I have a feeling your letting the rpms go a little further (which is why its fun to play with a stick!). Also realize now a days automatics are becoming more efficient and are almost up to par or even better than sticks, as far as effeciencey, obviously power is another issue and that depends on the driver who is driving the stick. But since a stick is fun to drive I'm wondering if many are shifting to get fuel economy...sorry I just had to chime in.
OK, I've had my Hathcback-manual transmission for three weeks. I commute 130 miles a day, 85% highway. Here are the results for the first four tanks of gas:
9.5 gallons, 401.9 miles (41.99) 8.9 gallons, 377.1 miles (42.22) 10.3 gallons, 431.8 miles (41.76) 9.5 Gallons, 403.5 miles (42.33)
ummm I have buckled the middle seat belt for extra safety in my yaris liftback.... good idea? maybe... other question: how come, no way way to open the hatch from inside the car.. i mean, i could kid knap someone ya know. and... only one cig lighter, i have phone, gps, radar detector. but can only use one at a time,, quess i just flick the cig butt out the window too.. maybe one of those big trucks will see that finally
I just did another fill-up on my Yaris Lift Back with manual transmission. I got 46.2 mpg. It was 95% open road driving between 50 and 60 mph, no AC running, 10% ethanol, in the flat lands of the mid-west. I’m very pleased. My previous tank was with some AC and some 65 mph speeds. It came out to about 42 mpg. So slowing down a little and sweating some produced significantly better mileage.
I'm all for saving fuel so we don't hurt the environment and send money over to countries that want to kill us but I think that I would be happy with the 42 mpg and not sweating.
I want a hi mileage car with CVT. In past years my Plymouth Champ & Ford Festiva sticks averaged 43 & 46mpg, & got 50+ & 53mpg(hiway) , so I don't want to get too far from that. The Nissan Versa(w/CVT) went bigger instead of smaller. If Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, Mazda, Focus, Chevy Aveo, Hyundai Accent, or Kia Rio come out with lo cost CVTs, here's a buyer! However, all American versions carry bigger engines & more weight than they carry in Europe & Japan. Some of us Americans dream of hi mileage, but don't have hybrid car budgets. Come on car manufacturers, don't change anything. Just send us the cars you sell in Europe & Japan...some true electrics too. Grace & peace to all readers...litesong :surprise:
I AGREE ! I don't understand why the auto manufacturers don't sell us the same cars. And please don't give me that pollution/smog excuse - all European countries (at least Western Europe) have the same car pollution problems as we do and they've cleaned up their act (pardon the pun). We visited the wife's relatives in Germany a couple of years ago and they have an Audi A4 diesel which accelerates like a mad dog. They also drove us all around Germany (heavy loaded car) for a full week and used maybe 3/4 tank of fuel (I have no idea how many hundreds of miles we traveled). Needless to say, you can't get the A4 in America with that engine. Ya gotta wonder why? Now I read the car news and they say we will begin to see some of these great performing diesels in our autos in about three or four years. Why so long? Tooling time in the plants is only about two years and these engines have been used in Europe for much longer than that. They also have had the Smart Car for awhile - I saw it on their streets two years ago - and we won't have it available to buy for another model year (2008). What gives with that? It's not some small specific example I'm questioning - it's the whole approach in the U.S. There is a demand here now and it will only increase as the cost of gas goes up and up (and don't let this dip in gas prices fool you, right here before mid-term elections - it's not here to stay, mark my words). No wonder American auto manufacturers are in financial trouble, they can't envision product demand one month from now, rather alone two or three years.
I live in CT and all stations switched from MTBE to 10% ethanol some time ago. Gas mileage shouldn't suffer any more than 5% -- still 1.5 to 2 mpg with an economy car. No discounts due to the complexity of blending ethanol into the gas -- it can't be piped -- must be blended at each terminal
Just as a side note and FYI, it is my understanding tho not fully 100% confirmed but the MTBE is being replaced by the ethanol as a "detergent".
Locally some folks had a gas station leak MTBE laden fuel into the soil. ALL nearby houses had wells exposed to carcinogen MTBE. It was HORRIBLE to think the suffering of people and that we have been exposed to this for far too long. They all tried to sell their houses asap. Its just that toxic.
That said, this might be a rare case where I think paying more (or about the same) makes more sense for everyone.
I have a Honda Fit and get great mileage, but my state (NC) is not yet using ethanol. Others who live in ethanol blend states appear to be getting 20% worse fuel economy with the same model.
The dirty little secret is that ethanol is actually MORE polluting, costs more to the consumer, takes government subsidies (which adds to our cost), and give poorer fuel economy. I also don't like the idea that ethanol is produced using precious farmland, water, fertilizer, etc. There is something terribly wrong with the whole idea.
I too am buying a fit. I happened to come over here cuz my roomie just bought a yaris per my recommendation. (His car died and that was the car i would have gotten/would get if I were in teh same dead car situation.)
I realize that the US production of the ethanol will never meet the demands.
But damn....locals here have had their lives and health ruined by the MTBE fuel leaking into their wells. They couldnt sell their houses fast enough.
Its REALLY BAD CHIT.
If they can do a 10% blend with a reasonable amount of work and cost as well as profit to make everyone happy....I would not blink to see the MTBE GONE.
My wife & I get terrible gas mileage w/the Yaris - avg out at only 27mpg! We mostly drive highway but do some in-town. It has just over 5K. Tyres are full. Everything seems ok and we love the car but the mileage really annoys us especially since that was a big selling point for us. Any thoughts?
featherz, where do you live? and how about you lucynethel? I'm in MA and like I said I'm pretty annoyed with the low mileage. :mad: My old VW Golf got better!
I live in California and drive up and down the mountains every day (6000 feet altitude down to sea level). This is a manual tranny if that helps. I'm pretty happy with the mileage so far - runs between 38-41 and has about 2.5K miles on it.
Yesterday I made my first gas purchase for my Yaris Hatchback, 5 speed. I got 39.4 mpg, with no highway miles. Most of my driving is to and from work each day, with some coasting on the downhills.
Kind of an update: we've tried a different brand and quality and it seems that we may get better mileage - maybe 30 or so. Still my old Golf got better.
i bought a yaris around august and its the automatic 4 door sedan yaris.
i drive about 15 minutes total when i commute to work and i drive maybe 20-30 min doing 25-30 miles maybe once or twice per fill up. the majority of my miles are commuting to work or random errands that all last this is what i'm getting, pretty disappointed, should have gotten the manual, but it seems like my mpg are going up after i hit 3000 miles (i'm at 3200 atm):
i'd be happy if i can get 31-33 mpg just commuting... maybe soon since the mpg seem to have gotten better as the last figure was mostly commuting and usually i get < 30 mpg commuting.
I think the Yaris is a good looking small car! When I decided I wanted an economy car I looked at that but ended up buying the Camry Hybrid.
While I realize the cost the Yaris may be all some can justify, but I was certainly happy that Toyota came out with the Camry Hybrid (I'm averaging 39.63mpg). The size is great and the tax credits (state and federal) put it within the range of most people wanting a reasonably priced economy car.
I think the Yaris looks like a Camry that has been squished in a vice. I really like it!
I'm very pleased to report that after just doing my first fillup at 231 miles, the mpg for my new liftback/automatic computed out to 33 mpg--98% of which was city. I hope it improves, but I'm not complainin'!
I purchased my 5 speed Yaris in late Sept, 2006. I still have not taken my Yaris on the highway. I do a great deal of coasting, which has given me the following mpg figures.
1) 39.4 first fillup 2) 40.1 3) 40.9 4) 42.2 last fillup average of 40.6 mpg (US)
It is easier to do coasting with a manual transmission, but I did it for years with an automatic trans. I want to tell you that learning to get better mpg using coasting is something you learn over a period of months, much like learning to dance over a period of months. You get better the more you do it. I coast as much as possible, meaning when there is a downhill, I push in the clutch, and roll all the way. When I see an intersection, I push in the clutch, and roll all the way if it is a stop or red lite. That is a good beginning to coasting. gassavers
His technique won't cost his clutch any life, as he would have had to disengage it prior to stopping anyway. And coasting works - you can achieve big gas savings if you apply it well. My advice, though, would be to avoid enraging other drivers behind you by going half the speed of the rest of traffic.
IOW, pick your coasting opportunities for the best compromise between gas savings and courteous driving.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I do not slow down other drivers with my coasting. If someone is behind me, I use the gas to keep moving. I do try to time stoplights, so that I can keep from stopping. Most of my driving is not when others are driving to and from work, which makes it easier to coast and get better mpg. Also I have many hills on my route to and from work.
I've gassed up twice in my Yaris Liftback (manual transmission, convenience package, floor mats) since I bought it at the beginning of the month.
35.1 mpg over 368 miles (I was 3 quarts from empty!) 36.4 mpg over 361 miles
Most of my driving is trips of 22 freeway + 5 city miles to/from work. There are also some longer trips in there for work, with roughly the same freeway/city ratio.
I'm also trying to make myself a coaster. There are three stop signs and two traffic signals (always red!) on my morning route, and I rarely have someone behind me.
i just was reading through the forum,and I have to ask-- exactly how do you drive the car? I was thinking about this, and thinking about my own driving habits and my spouses. we live in Arizona where it gets UNGODLY hot most of the year, and that does effect your gas mileage because running your airconditioner,and other electronics continually eats gas up. So if you have it on at high all the time, it's gonna eat up some of the gas mileage your looking for. Also, how immediatly and fast do you accelorate from a dead stop at lights? And how hard do you have to brake at lights or in traffic? It can really effect gas mileage by as much as 10 miles per gallon easily. I tend to get a consistant 38-42 miles per gallon with our car. I have had it since mid june and while I will admit we live nearly 20 miles from town, so we have a daily commute that averages over 40 miles a day,and easily something like 60 miles just because of the commute out and back if were doing any shopping or errands. However, I our speed limits are posted at 65mph and I stick to the limits pretty faithfully. The highest I push it is 75, and that is usually on the highway. the rest of the time I am doing about 40 on avg through tucson. My spouse has a heavier foot on the gas, craving that "VROOOM!" heavy start as well as speeding and fast stops. It effects the gas mileage a great deal. I guess the other little habits of driving might also effect the MPG, but mostly I have found that the Yaris is really fun to drive and gets really good mileage, but you have to respect that it was NOT built to be revv'd and dead stopped all the time. City driving here is insane, but then it's nuts most places. I suppose that ethanol might factor in, but honestly I havent noticed any significant drop and we use both depending on the season here in AZ. I took the car on a 5000 mile trip to Mesa Verde and back this summer over a week's span, and found we got very good mileage.
they do sell an inteligent engine and cvrt version of the Yaris in Japan. It gets 60 mpg and damn amazing city milage (japanese city gridlock, which is hell!) but they call it the VITZ, and no.. they wont let that one come here to america. It's too fast and safe. it doesnt meet the us spec's which would mean making it less efficient.. right?;)
i know.. i was so pissed off i had to wait to get a yaris in America, when for years they had been in Germany. I liked the yaris back then, and i love it even more now, but it pisses me off that the American approval for selling the car usually means we make it less efficient and it takes about 5 years before we get the car in america. And even when we get it, the damn thing has been made somewhat less efficient. It's as if we have to make it so that detroit has a fighting chance. Not one of the new american cars has the mileage or grace as the japanese or korean cars, much less the prices and safety that comes fairly standard. And yet... we are told diesel cars are impossible in the us, were mislead about how 30mpg is the ultimate.. gimme a break! I would love a car like the Vitz here! (thats the 60mpg i-engine cvrt version of the yaris sold in Japan. It also has lots of nice features, including ac, cruise control, and mp3 player/setero cd standards..etc.) *sigh* it will be awhile cause no american car is close to the price range and gas capability.
I agree. It's absolutely reprehensible that American business force feeds inefficient junk on the American public. I'm not saying that "all" domestic cars are junk because there have been a few great ones over the years. But, as an industry, the auto makers decided to begin "sticking it" to the American public back in the mid '70's. Unfortunately, when the time came that they could have changed their philosophy they chose not to and now Detroit's dominance in the market is lost.
I really feel for the American workers who have been affected by this. I know that some of them have very strong feelings about imported cars--to use an understatement. But, the problem isn't the people who are buying them. This is the fault of the people in the boardrooms who are forcing the workers to build cars that many Americans refuse to accept.
Nine months ago I told my wife, "I think it's time to look for the most reliable and fuel efficient American car we can find. Unfortunately, I found that the words, "reliable," "fuel efficient," and "American" do not appear in the same sentence together. The best quality domestic cars are not the most fuel efficient and the most fuel efficient domestic cars are crap. I ended up learning about the Toyota Echo, which I had never even heard of before, and ultimately the Yaris.
To the American worker I say, "Sorry guys. As much as I would like to support you I simply can't afford it. No, seriously--I can not afford it." To the greedy CEO's of the Big 3, the American oil companies, the unions, and the politicians I say, "You all have a share in what has happened to our auto industry and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I will not have it."
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This car may NOT get the gas mileage I wanted in town but MY town is an EXTREME gridlock situation. The car DOES give me the extreme smallness I was after for ease of parking and mobility. Kind of like my wife's Vespa with 4 wheels and a set of airbags! Has that same "something" that just sets this car apart! I love it for what it "is". Just get discouraged when I get sick I guess.....
So, for NOW, I have turned away a buyer with cash. Going to try to make this thing work for me. Or SHOULD say, try to make ME work for IT!
Mike
They have barely changed the weight, power, and gearing from the last gen when it was called the Echo in the U.S., and lots of folks were getting mpg in the 30s in town, even with the automatic. So I think the car is capable of it, but just being limited by the pattern of use you have for it.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
BTW, I consider scooters motorcycles and wouldn't mind having one for around town. The little Honda Ruckus in urban camo is way cool.
I've been thinking of trading my 4Runner for a 4-cyl 2WD Tacoma (stick though) - good to know it hits its EPA numbers pretty well. The Runner in my use makes its highway number of 20 mpg all the time, so I think I could get close to 30 mpg in the Tacoma. Just idle thoughts for now...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Funny too, she traded in her 96 4 Runner 2WD V6 auto for her Tacoma. HER 4 Runner averaged 19 MPG UNTIL the end when we sold it with 105K on it. It had dropped to around 16-18 MPG and BARELY passed smog. Looked like the EGR was going south and probably the 02 sensor too based on my print out. This again, was the EXACT "driving routine". She bought the 4 Runner new as well. My 2006PT Cruiser (bought new on Dec 31), with a base 4 cyl., 5 speed stick NON turbo got 18.9 to 22 MPG on this same routine. No matter WHAT she drives, she drives the SAME way, to the same places. Like a DINGBAT from Hell......
So far my best tank, 39.6, and worst tank, 31.7. Still think I can break 40 if 100% highway.
I am in atlanta also, I average about 38 to 39 mpg
all highway of coarse
most people on I 75 are doing 80 to 90
I only seen 2 other yaris on southside
( i liked to blue one, red was ok )
me in the silver liftback
9.5 gallons, 401.9 miles (41.99)
8.9 gallons, 377.1 miles (42.22)
10.3 gallons, 431.8 miles (41.76)
9.5 Gallons, 403.5 miles (42.33)
Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with this.
in my yaris liftback.... good idea? maybe...
other question: how come, no way way to open
the hatch from inside the car.. i mean, i could kid knap
someone ya know.
and... only one cig lighter, i have phone, gps, radar detector. but can only use one at a time,, quess i just flick the cig butt out the window too.. maybe one of those big trucks will see that finally
We visited the wife's relatives in Germany a couple of years ago and they have an Audi A4 diesel which accelerates like a mad dog. They also drove us all around Germany (heavy loaded car) for a full week and used maybe 3/4 tank of fuel (I have no idea how many hundreds of miles we traveled). Needless to say, you can't get the A4 in America with that engine. Ya gotta wonder why?
Now I read the car news and they say we will begin to see some of these great performing diesels in our autos in about three or four years. Why so long? Tooling time in the plants is only about two years and these engines have been used in Europe for much longer than that.
They also have had the Smart Car for awhile - I saw it on their streets two years ago - and we won't have it available to buy for another model year (2008). What gives with that?
It's not some small specific example I'm questioning - it's the whole approach in the U.S. There is a demand here now and it will only increase as the cost of gas goes up and up (and don't let this dip in gas prices fool you, right here before mid-term elections - it's not here to stay, mark my words). No wonder American auto manufacturers are in financial trouble, they can't envision product demand one month from now, rather alone two or three years.
Just as a side note and FYI, it is my understanding tho not fully 100% confirmed but the MTBE is being replaced by the ethanol as a "detergent".
Locally some folks had a gas station leak MTBE laden fuel into the soil. ALL nearby houses had wells exposed to carcinogen MTBE. It was HORRIBLE to think the suffering of people and that we have been exposed to this for far too long. They all tried to sell their houses asap. Its just that toxic.
That said, this might be a rare case where I think paying more (or about the same) makes more sense for everyone.
I can live with the 1-2 miles mpg.
Just my two cents and hope that helps.
The dirty little secret is that ethanol is actually MORE polluting, costs more to the consumer, takes government subsidies (which adds to our cost), and give poorer fuel economy. I also don't like the idea that ethanol is produced using precious farmland, water, fertilizer, etc. There is something terribly wrong with the whole idea.
I too am buying a fit. I happened to come over here cuz my roomie just bought a yaris per my recommendation. (His car died and that was the car i would have gotten/would get if I were in teh same dead car situation.)
I realize that the US production of the ethanol will never meet the demands.
But damn....locals here have had their lives and health ruined by the MTBE fuel leaking into their wells. They couldnt sell their houses fast enough.
Its REALLY BAD CHIT.
If they can do a 10% blend with a reasonable amount of work and cost as well as profit to make everyone happy....I would not blink to see the MTBE GONE.
We mostly drive highway but do some in-town. It has just over 5K. Tyres are full. Everything seems ok and we love the car but the mileage really annoys us especially since that was a big selling point for us.
Any thoughts?
Most of my driving is to and from work each day, with some coasting on the downhills.
i drive about 15 minutes total when i commute to work and i drive maybe 20-30 min doing 25-30 miles maybe once or twice per fill up. the majority of my miles are commuting to work or random errands that all last
this is what i'm getting, pretty disappointed, should have gotten the manual, but it seems like my mpg are going up after i hit 3000 miles (i'm at 3200 atm):
miles / gallons = mpg
290 / 10.2 = 28.4
333.6 / 10.485 = 31.81 (about a 120 mile roundtrip roadtrip)
317.6 / 10.629 = 29.88
297.4 / 10.301 = 28.87
252.7 / 9.26 = 27.29
304 / 9.945 = 30.57
298 / 10.237 = 29.11
300 / 8.93 = 33.59 (about a 140 mile roundtrip roadtrip)
323 / 10.558 = 30.66
i'd be happy if i can get 31-33 mpg just commuting... maybe soon since the mpg seem to have gotten better as the last figure was mostly commuting and usually i get < 30 mpg commuting.
While I realize the cost the Yaris may be all some can justify, but I was certainly happy that Toyota came out with the Camry Hybrid (I'm averaging 39.63mpg). The size is great and the tax credits (state and federal) put it within the range of most people wanting a reasonably priced economy car.
I think the Yaris looks like a Camry that has been squished in a vice. I really like it!
1) 39.4 first fillup
2) 40.1
3) 40.9
4) 42.2 last fillup
average of 40.6 mpg (US)
IOW, pick your coasting opportunities for the best compromise between gas savings and courteous driving.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Most of my driving is not when others are driving to and from work, which makes it easier to coast and get better mpg. Also I have many hills on my route to and from work.
35.1 mpg over 368 miles (I was 3 quarts from empty!)
36.4 mpg over 361 miles
Most of my driving is trips of 22 freeway + 5 city miles to/from work. There are also some longer trips in there for work, with roughly the same freeway/city ratio.
I'm also trying to make myself a coaster. There are three stop signs and two traffic signals (always red!) on my morning route, and I rarely have someone behind me.
I tend to get a consistant 38-42 miles per gallon with our car. I have had it since mid june and while I will admit we live nearly 20 miles from town, so we have a daily commute that averages over 40 miles a day,and easily something like 60 miles just because of the commute out and back if were doing any shopping or errands. However, I our speed limits are posted at 65mph and I stick to the limits pretty faithfully. The highest I push it is 75, and that is usually on the highway. the rest of the time I am doing about 40 on avg through tucson. My spouse has a heavier foot on the gas, craving that "VROOOM!" heavy start as well as speeding and fast stops. It effects the gas mileage a great deal.
I guess the other little habits of driving might also effect the MPG, but mostly I have found that the Yaris is really fun to drive and gets really good mileage, but you have to respect that it was NOT built to be revv'd and dead stopped all the time. City driving here is insane, but then it's nuts most places. I suppose that ethanol might factor in, but honestly I havent noticed any significant drop and we use both depending on the season here in AZ. I took the car on a 5000 mile trip to Mesa Verde and back this summer over a week's span, and found we got very good mileage.
I really feel for the American workers who have been affected by this. I know that some of them have very strong feelings about imported cars--to use an understatement. But, the problem isn't the people who are buying them. This is the fault of the people in the boardrooms who are forcing the workers to build cars that many Americans refuse to accept.
Nine months ago I told my wife, "I think it's time to look for the most reliable and fuel efficient American car we can find. Unfortunately, I found that the words, "reliable," "fuel efficient," and "American" do not appear in the same sentence together. The best quality domestic cars are not the most fuel efficient and the most fuel efficient domestic cars are crap. I ended up learning about the Toyota Echo, which I had never even heard of before, and ultimately the Yaris.
To the American worker I say, "Sorry guys. As much as I would like to support you I simply can't afford it. No, seriously--I can not afford it." To the greedy CEO's of the Big 3, the American oil companies, the unions, and the politicians I say, "You all have a share in what has happened to our auto industry and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I will not have it."