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"Once" a biker, now...(oh the shame).....Scooter Trash!
2003 Honda Reflex 250 Canary Yellow
2006 Vespa GT200 Pearl White
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This car may NOT get the gas mileage I wanted in town but MY town is an EXTREME gridlock situation. The car DOES give me the extreme smallness I was after for ease of parking and mobility. Kind of like my wife's Vespa with 4 wheels and a set of airbags! Has that same "something" that just sets this car apart! I love it for what it "is". Just get discouraged when I get sick I guess.....
So, for NOW, I have turned away a buyer with cash. Going to try to make this thing work for me. Or SHOULD say, try to make ME work for IT!
Mike
They have barely changed the weight, power, and gearing from the last gen when it was called the Echo in the U.S., and lots of folks were getting mpg in the 30s in town, even with the automatic. So I think the car is capable of it, but just being limited by the pattern of use you have for it.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
BTW, I consider scooters motorcycles and wouldn't mind having one for around town. The little Honda Ruckus in urban camo is way cool.
I've been thinking of trading my 4Runner for a 4-cyl 2WD Tacoma (stick though) - good to know it hits its EPA numbers pretty well. The Runner in my use makes its highway number of 20 mpg all the time, so I think I could get close to 30 mpg in the Tacoma. Just idle thoughts for now...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Funny too, she traded in her 96 4 Runner 2WD V6 auto for her Tacoma. HER 4 Runner averaged 19 MPG UNTIL the end when we sold it with 105K on it. It had dropped to around 16-18 MPG and BARELY passed smog. Looked like the EGR was going south and probably the 02 sensor too based on my print out. This again, was the EXACT "driving routine". She bought the 4 Runner new as well. My 2006PT Cruiser (bought new on Dec 31), with a base 4 cyl., 5 speed stick NON turbo got 18.9 to 22 MPG on this same routine. No matter WHAT she drives, she drives the SAME way, to the same places. Like a DINGBAT from Hell......
So far my best tank, 39.6, and worst tank, 31.7. Still think I can break 40 if 100% highway.
I am in atlanta also, I average about 38 to 39 mpg
all highway of coarse
most people on I 75 are doing 80 to 90
I only seen 2 other yaris on southside
( i liked to blue one, red was ok )
me in the silver liftback
9.5 gallons, 401.9 miles (41.99)
8.9 gallons, 377.1 miles (42.22)
10.3 gallons, 431.8 miles (41.76)
9.5 Gallons, 403.5 miles (42.33)
Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with this.
in my yaris liftback.... good idea? maybe...
other question: how come, no way way to open
the hatch from inside the car.. i mean, i could kid knap
someone ya know.
and... only one cig lighter, i have phone, gps, radar detector. but can only use one at a time,, quess i just flick the cig butt out the window too.. maybe one of those big trucks will see that finally
We visited the wife's relatives in Germany a couple of years ago and they have an Audi A4 diesel which accelerates like a mad dog. They also drove us all around Germany (heavy loaded car) for a full week and used maybe 3/4 tank of fuel (I have no idea how many hundreds of miles we traveled). Needless to say, you can't get the A4 in America with that engine. Ya gotta wonder why?
Now I read the car news and they say we will begin to see some of these great performing diesels in our autos in about three or four years. Why so long? Tooling time in the plants is only about two years and these engines have been used in Europe for much longer than that.
They also have had the Smart Car for awhile - I saw it on their streets two years ago - and we won't have it available to buy for another model year (2008). What gives with that?
It's not some small specific example I'm questioning - it's the whole approach in the U.S. There is a demand here now and it will only increase as the cost of gas goes up and up (and don't let this dip in gas prices fool you, right here before mid-term elections - it's not here to stay, mark my words). No wonder American auto manufacturers are in financial trouble, they can't envision product demand one month from now, rather alone two or three years.
Just as a side note and FYI, it is my understanding tho not fully 100% confirmed but the MTBE is being replaced by the ethanol as a "detergent".
Locally some folks had a gas station leak MTBE laden fuel into the soil. ALL nearby houses had wells exposed to carcinogen MTBE. It was HORRIBLE to think the suffering of people and that we have been exposed to this for far too long. They all tried to sell their houses asap. Its just that toxic.
That said, this might be a rare case where I think paying more (or about the same) makes more sense for everyone.
I can live with the 1-2 miles mpg.
Just my two cents and hope that helps.
The dirty little secret is that ethanol is actually MORE polluting, costs more to the consumer, takes government subsidies (which adds to our cost), and give poorer fuel economy. I also don't like the idea that ethanol is produced using precious farmland, water, fertilizer, etc. There is something terribly wrong with the whole idea.
I too am buying a fit. I happened to come over here cuz my roomie just bought a yaris per my recommendation. (His car died and that was the car i would have gotten/would get if I were in teh same dead car situation.)
I realize that the US production of the ethanol will never meet the demands.
But damn....locals here have had their lives and health ruined by the MTBE fuel leaking into their wells. They couldnt sell their houses fast enough.
Its REALLY BAD CHIT.
If they can do a 10% blend with a reasonable amount of work and cost as well as profit to make everyone happy....I would not blink to see the MTBE GONE.
We mostly drive highway but do some in-town. It has just over 5K. Tyres are full. Everything seems ok and we love the car but the mileage really annoys us especially since that was a big selling point for us.
Any thoughts?
Most of my driving is to and from work each day, with some coasting on the downhills.
i drive about 15 minutes total when i commute to work and i drive maybe 20-30 min doing 25-30 miles maybe once or twice per fill up. the majority of my miles are commuting to work or random errands that all last
this is what i'm getting, pretty disappointed, should have gotten the manual, but it seems like my mpg are going up after i hit 3000 miles (i'm at 3200 atm):
miles / gallons = mpg
290 / 10.2 = 28.4
333.6 / 10.485 = 31.81 (about a 120 mile roundtrip roadtrip)
317.6 / 10.629 = 29.88
297.4 / 10.301 = 28.87
252.7 / 9.26 = 27.29
304 / 9.945 = 30.57
298 / 10.237 = 29.11
300 / 8.93 = 33.59 (about a 140 mile roundtrip roadtrip)
323 / 10.558 = 30.66
i'd be happy if i can get 31-33 mpg just commuting... maybe soon since the mpg seem to have gotten better as the last figure was mostly commuting and usually i get < 30 mpg commuting.
While I realize the cost the Yaris may be all some can justify, but I was certainly happy that Toyota came out with the Camry Hybrid (I'm averaging 39.63mpg). The size is great and the tax credits (state and federal) put it within the range of most people wanting a reasonably priced economy car.
I think the Yaris looks like a Camry that has been squished in a vice. I really like it!
1) 39.4 first fillup
2) 40.1
3) 40.9
4) 42.2 last fillup
average of 40.6 mpg (US)
IOW, pick your coasting opportunities for the best compromise between gas savings and courteous driving.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Most of my driving is not when others are driving to and from work, which makes it easier to coast and get better mpg. Also I have many hills on my route to and from work.
35.1 mpg over 368 miles (I was 3 quarts from empty!)
36.4 mpg over 361 miles
Most of my driving is trips of 22 freeway + 5 city miles to/from work. There are also some longer trips in there for work, with roughly the same freeway/city ratio.
I'm also trying to make myself a coaster. There are three stop signs and two traffic signals (always red!) on my morning route, and I rarely have someone behind me.
I tend to get a consistant 38-42 miles per gallon with our car. I have had it since mid june and while I will admit we live nearly 20 miles from town, so we have a daily commute that averages over 40 miles a day,and easily something like 60 miles just because of the commute out and back if were doing any shopping or errands. However, I our speed limits are posted at 65mph and I stick to the limits pretty faithfully. The highest I push it is 75, and that is usually on the highway. the rest of the time I am doing about 40 on avg through tucson. My spouse has a heavier foot on the gas, craving that "VROOOM!" heavy start as well as speeding and fast stops. It effects the gas mileage a great deal.
I guess the other little habits of driving might also effect the MPG, but mostly I have found that the Yaris is really fun to drive and gets really good mileage, but you have to respect that it was NOT built to be revv'd and dead stopped all the time. City driving here is insane, but then it's nuts most places. I suppose that ethanol might factor in, but honestly I havent noticed any significant drop and we use both depending on the season here in AZ. I took the car on a 5000 mile trip to Mesa Verde and back this summer over a week's span, and found we got very good mileage.
I really feel for the American workers who have been affected by this. I know that some of them have very strong feelings about imported cars--to use an understatement. But, the problem isn't the people who are buying them. This is the fault of the people in the boardrooms who are forcing the workers to build cars that many Americans refuse to accept.
Nine months ago I told my wife, "I think it's time to look for the most reliable and fuel efficient American car we can find. Unfortunately, I found that the words, "reliable," "fuel efficient," and "American" do not appear in the same sentence together. The best quality domestic cars are not the most fuel efficient and the most fuel efficient domestic cars are crap. I ended up learning about the Toyota Echo, which I had never even heard of before, and ultimately the Yaris.
To the American worker I say, "Sorry guys. As much as I would like to support you I simply can't afford it. No, seriously--I can not afford it." To the greedy CEO's of the Big 3, the American oil companies, the unions, and the politicians I say, "You all have a share in what has happened to our auto industry and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I will not have it."