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waits , if he waits till it comes")
The correct quote is, "Good things come to those who wait..." ad naseum, infinitum.
http://www.realtruck.com/
I place the order on my st on the 16 of May and I still waiting for the production date. I own a 95 mustang and fell in love with the ST; this will be my first pick up and I'm joust wondering how I'm going to fill driving the st. I order the Toreador Red with leather, sport package, and 4.10 dif. 4x2
I can wait to have the ST here with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. shimmy - I only have the shimmy when I am in 4x4 mode making low speed parking maneuvers. No shimmy in 4x2 mode. *Anyone with 4x4 ST notice similar conditions?
2. moonroof - no leaks, even though we have had several extreme downpours. I will keep a close eye on this regardless.
3. gas door - has just started to rub ever so lightly. Will contact body shop,not service dept.
*does anyone know if there is a technical service#
on this yet?
4. rear view mirror - also pivoted it up and this was a big help. THANK YOU for the suggestion.
5. Premium console - Just curious, my console does not have a c/d holder in it(every other ford I have seen has had one). Did anyone with the console upgrade get one??
6. MPG - I'm on my 5th tank of petro - best mpg has been 16.2 - lowest has been 14.4 - avg.-15.5
(ramarant)- I traded my 95 mustang for the ST and you will absolutely love riding up high in yours when you get it.
My second attempt at buying a ST has been much more succesful. I went to several different Autonation owned dealerships via email to their internet departments. These guys all did their best to locate the ST I wanted, and then gave me an upfront price better than what I was wanting to pay using the Edmunds formula. I was shocked after the hell I went through the first time at College Station. The guy I finally went with showed me proof of several recently ordered STs order and delivery dates and had the best price. I think I spent a grand total of 2 hours on this process. 1 hr of it was driving down to the dealer to give him a hold check personally so I could meet this savior.
In 5-6 weeks I should have my nice new Estate Green 4x2 with Medium Tan interior, sport, convenience, leather, limited slip axle, and 6-CD player. The moonroof just cost too much money, maintenance, noise, and headroom for a silly luxury in my humble opinion.
My lesson learned. Do your research. Invoice and MSRP prices are hardly all you need to negotiate. Ask about delivery dates, proof of such, and if you have the slightest bad feeling about the salesman, then leave. I liked the first guy, but something about him made me uncomfortable anyways. I should have just walked away. You should NOT have to wait two months for the order information on a vehicle. Especially when a half dozen of them are popping up on each lot every week.
-lesson learned
6 weeks total. My Red 4X2 with Prem. Sport Pkg., Cloth Comf. Group, Conv. Group,
6 Disc CD, 4.10 LS Axle, and of course Cargo Cage is here or should I say there as I ordered it from a dealer in NC and I live in Florida, but the planned trip to NC will begin next week, should be driving my new Sporty by Saturday.
I already told the dealer to check the usual before I arrive. My gas cap does not Rub!,
I have the proper 16” Wheels installed not last years model as was mentioned in earlier posts. No Shimmy noticed either, of course I will check that out in depth when after I take delivery. I didn't order a Moon roof so let it rain......and didn't order a Hard Tonneau so looks as though I’m good to go. Can’t wait, what a great Fathers day gift to myself this will be! Yes!!!!! Thanks to all for all the great posts its mad the relatively short wait a lot of fun.
What I think jjbenny was referring to was my post 500 where I had noticed that the 2 door Sport was shown on Ford's, Edmund's & KBB's site with the same premium sport 16" wheels as the ST but the ones I saw on the road had last years 16" wheels.
I spent time at my dealer yesterday getting ready for my ST, test drives to quench my thirst, interest rate review etc. I noticed two things about the 2 door Sports & STs on his lot:
1) All 2001 2 door Sports with PS group also came with last years wheels. Ford's web specs now show a detail of the wheel options (last year's wheels) Note: their exterior color pics still show the ST 16" wheels on it by mistake.
2) None of the 8 or so STs on the lot had PS Group (all steel wheels). These were quoted as being "Ford generated" packages, what Ford most wanted to sell presumably.
It would appear that post 449's comment of a commodities shortage of the new 16" wheels was right on target & that Ford's response was to limit the application to the ST. Anything that makes the ST more unique than the rest of the millions (billions?) of Explorers out there is a good thing in my book.
All ST pictures & STs in person I've seen with Ford's Aluminum wheels are the "new" ones, 5 straight spokes rather than the "old" ones, 5 teardrop spokes (typical classic Ford Premium wheels).
IMHO both the "old" & "new" (ST) 16" wheels look good. I prefer the new ones only bc they're fresh & unique to the ST.
WHO MAKES THE SOFT TONNEAU COVER FOR FORD???
NEED REPLACEMENT PART - DEALER NO HELP.
PLEASE HELP.
Did not know about OASIS # 14005 Special Service Bulletin on steering and the bleeding off air in steering pump. Wanted to put a couple of hundred miles on ST before aligment - those delivery trucks and binders to hold the vehicles on the truck cause a lot of problems that go away or sometimes get worse. This is why the dealers should check the vehicle out before letting the customer test drive. By the way, I caught the steering problem in the test drive before purchasing - Did not count on having to wait/get the run around from a "junior
assistant service manager." Heck I forgot more about trucks than they will ever know.
I got a rock caught between the caliper and rotor - sounds/feels like you ran over an are dragging your own muffler or ran over and are dragging a garbage can under the ST. Thought that the spare tire had come loose and was dragging.
Easy fix - stop ST on shoulder quickly and safely; then slowly backup 1 foot. This should free the offending rock/pea gravel. You may have to repeat this a few times to dislodge it.
If this does not work you may be able to dig it out/wedge it out with a screw driver - be careful not to damage the caliper pad or the disc rotor with the screwdriver. Not handy then I would get the vehicle towed. If you have to drive it with the rock stuck and all hell breaking loose - get it to a shop ASAP - you may have ruined the rotor even if it does break loose after diving it a couple of miles.
On the official ST brochure it shows the "flush" center cap, but on the lots, I've seen both. However, on the dealer lots I didn't check to see if maybe the different center cap was due to 15" Vs. 16" wheels. Does this make a difference?
acbrown1-What do you mean No gravel shield? And do we need one, how do we get one? I think the easy fix would be getting the gravel shield rather than your easy fix of rolling back and forth. I am still waiting on my 4x2 deliv. date of 7-5. but I think this would be even a bigger problem for anyone wanting to do some four wheeling? Don't you think?
http://www.fordvehicles.com/vehiclespec.asp?vid=8
The ST brochure & all other pictures I've seen show (2) "new" options unique from the (5) for the standard Explorer.
The base ST wheels, 15" steel units are all that I've seen at various dealer's lots. None of the 15 or so STs I've seen in my area have had the PS Group (16" Aluminum wheels with 5 straight spokes & flat cap with the Ford logo on a grey background).
Since Ford apparently revised the wheel spec for the 2-door 2001 Explorer I wondered if there was a change to the ST as well.
mandarin_g & all,
Do your ST's or ones you've seen have any of the (5) wheels shown in the attached link?
I remain in the same boat with you. Saturday I found out bad news on my ST & trade in.
1) The VIN number I was given was not for my ST but the Explorer listed below mine on the computer screen. Ford CS asked for my VIN & Personal info (name, phone etc), not sure which piece they use to track an order but I'm confused as to why the mismatch never came up.
2) The elusive tonneau cover status I now have now matches what the rest of the world has been told, on hold till July 24th (if not more).
3) Tonneau cover would cost me parts counter price if I take delivery without it.
4) My 95 Contour SE loaded with 102k miles is only worth $2,000 on a trade in. There's a TSB for my Contour's 5 speed tranny (grind noise going into 3rd gear) that would make it tough to sell to a private owner. I solve the problem the Doctor's way... "Dr. it hurts when I do this." -----"Well don't do that.." I skip 3rd gear. When the clutch goes, I'll drop in a newer junkyard tranny & keep the car for work travel. I do enough miles to justify the cost of keeping the car after my ST arrives as a beater & better place to stack the big miles of solo driving.
Since I'm keeping my car, I'm going to bite the bullet & wait for the ST (hopefully before Labor Day). Yes I am crazy to be so in love with the ST & still choose to wait. Lasvegan & I really seem to be in the same boat on this.
the vehicles with the cover, cancelled the cover.
Ever since then, I had been told that "the vehicle is in the computer, waiting assignment." This morning I called the Customer Service Center and was told that my order was on hold again because of the color (mandarin gold). Talked to
the dealer and he said that only four colors are now available: torador red, estate green, black, and oxford white. Changed the color to oxford white and now the dealer thinks my ST will be assigned and built within the next two weeks. I orginally wanted silver (and still do) but that
isn't an option yet. Have a toreador red F150, like it, but wanted a color change. Don't like green, and have a black 450SL (one black vehicle is enough). So I end up with white. Still want a silver one tho. Many thanks to all here that are keeping us current on the status of everything about the ST and the after market parts available. Ford sure isn't. Jim
Thanks,
Mel
The Window is designed to stop if it hits an obstruction. The sticky stuff left over from TEMP tags is enough to stop the window.
BTW,
I think I discovered why the rear window only has UP, DOWN and VENT. I believe it is a safety issue to prevent the window from becoming a guillotine in an accident with a center passenger.
If the window is up you break it with the back of your head if the window is down you get whiplash. But if your neck comes down hard on the top edge of the window..... WHIP-SLASH
I didnt have the new track installed yet, but the seat then began squeaking recently. I fixed it with good 'ol WD-40 on the seat track, and surrounding metal parts. Hopefully the new seat track will perminately fix the issue.
I would suggest that you follow the procedure listed out on page 25 of your owner's manual called Position Recovery Mode to reset your rear window.
As the manual says, if that doesn't solve the problem, see the dealer.
Your posts regarding the old and new wheels continue to cause confusion on this board.
There are only 2 types of wheels for the Sport Trac.
Standard 15" wheels.
Upgraded 16" wheels with the Premium Sport Group.
Your information regarding what the 2001 Explorer Sport now has should go on that board and not the Sport Trac board. All you've been doing is creating confusion and concerns with Sport Trac owners that they may have old wheels. Yet not one single person has reported seeing a Sport Trac with these older wheels.
mandarin g---to answer your question, yes the different cap center is due to the different size of wheel. If it has the shiny cap that sticks out several inches, it's a 15" wheel. If it has the flat cap with the Ford emblem it's the 16" wheel.
Now if I could just hog-tie & gag Ford to keep them from eliminating ALL the colors I like --- apparently my 2nd favorite color (Island Blue) has bit the dust!
This is getting ridiculous!!! As a recent post indicated, only 4 colors now being offered - now, that's plain stupid. I hope it isn't true.
I have some of the same issues like the low speed shimmy. But no problem with the gas cap. I have also noticed that in the vent position my rear window seems slightly off level. Has anyone else noticed this? I've also noticed that the molding on the driver's side window has a pretty noticeable bulge in it. It appears to be loose but that should be easy to fix.
I also suggest that everyone check the speed control. Mine did not work when I tried it the other day. I am bringing it in to the service dept. for that on Wednesday.
For the record:
Island Blue
4x4
Sport, Cloth and Convenience paks
No tonneau cover
Cargo Cage
16" wheels that look like the ones in the brochure.
NO MPG yet. Still on the first tank of gas! :-)
Can you post a link to the 2-door Explorer Sport board you recommend. I can only find this board as an active Explorer board for general issues (not transmissions). Please help, I'm Confused at the info you posted.
Has anyone purchase this item after delivery? and what did you need to pay?
By the way, I think Tracker is a better nickname than Sporty for the vehicle.
Thanks,
Mel
here is the deal on the cargo cage. Dolphins66 told me they paid 185.00 for theres- i have called 8 dealers and it sells for 354.00- you can only get it for the 185.00 if you ordered it with the truck- all the dealers told me the same thing. i have f riend that works in conn for a ford dealership and i have a call into him to see what he says.
Mileage: I just filled mine for the first time and got 18.5 around town- not bad at all
just ordered a RollnLock tonneau cover for my ST. They just began manufacturing them and will ship the first batch in 3 weeks. It seems to be a good compromise between the hard and soft covers. They are at http://www.rollnlock.com/update.html. I paid $799 installed, they retail for $699.