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Ford Super Duty Continued - VIII
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Overall, I've heard of less problems with the 5sp/6sp than the auto tranny.. Both are very solid units that hold up well for most folks.
Before you buy one check the first number in the VIN. If it is a 1 then it was made in the US (Kentucky Truck). If it has a 3 then it was made in Mexico.
Mexico quality is extremely poor so you will be better off buying a truck made at KTP. Right now the majority of trucks are being made at KTP. But that could change.
Thanks,
Jim
"Mexico quality is extremely poor..."
Statements like this without the evidence to back them up should be ignored, IMHO.
Dave
they don't build anything!!!!
Other than this, I have not had any problems what so ever. Absolutely love the truck. My wife likes it so much that she wants to turn '98 Exp. in and get an Excursion. Let me know your thoughts on either subject.
As you said there were others claiming to be getting 20mpg or so at around 75mph, but if they are, I am wondering what the differences between our trucks may be? Did they really give me 3.73's or are they 4.10's?I too do mostly city/highway combo, but as you said, thats at exactly 70 mph, when I go over 70 any amount, the mpg starts going south, this is the same for me also.
Check out folks on www.ford-diesel.com. Most of them are posting around 18mpgs on the highway..
Maybe if you held it down to 55 to 65 you can get better than 18mpg.
Also, there will be a noticable mpg difference between auto tranny and the 5sp/6sp. And generally 4x2's get better mpg than 4x4 because the 4x2 is slightly lower or nose down.
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BTW Last weekend I went to Houston down I-10 (roughly 170 miles one way) and going down with the tailgate down I got 13.1 mpg, coming home with the gate up I got 14.2? Go figure. No wind either way.
I will have had the truck two years on October 9th. Sitting on about 40,000 miles so far. Wouldn't trade the 4.30s. Personal preference. The mpg was a fair trade-off for me. On the other hand, my next truck in a few years will probably be that new 6.0L second generation PSD that is rumored to have 310hp and 550 torque.
One thing I noticed is that the 5sp manual's clutch pull/push seemed alot easier than the 6sp. Although, both the 5sp and 6sp shifting is a bit notchy, but these are trucks and not sports cars.
00' F250 XLT 4x2 5.4L 5sp 4.10LS
The $2500 dealer cash on 6spds for leftover Y2Ks is the deciding factor! Unless, of course, the currant truck starts getting 15+ mpg, which ain't going to happen.
I haven't been writing in much lately (mostly because I am so happy with my truck '00 F250 v-10 auto, 4.3LS), but I have been checking in every once in awhile to read the posts. I am a little confused on the conversation above about trailer towing so I am going to ask what may be a foolish question. I know I will be treated fairly here. I have always been told to turn the overdrive off when towing my trailer (7500#max. two horse) even when on the highway. Now I know some of you live in the flatlands and your highways are really flat, but why are none of you turning your overdrive off when towing? I owned another Ford before this one and broke down on the highway once hauling a loaded horse trailer. The first thing the guy from Ford who came to tow me asked was whether I had turned the OD off while driving. That made me think that they frown upon towing in OD. I rarely tow on the highway. I am mostly on country roads with hills. I hear varying opinions around the barn I work. I would appreciate any and all input on this subject. Thanks all.
Cris
I went with the 00 F250 SC xlt 4x2 5.4L 5sp 4.10LS
Acceration is just fine in the F250. Its not as fast as the F150 or the F250 with a V10, but I'm not hold up traffic either.. I'm really happy with the power delivery when accelerating from 40 to 65.. It really runs well..
Price wise, both trucks were about the same.. (In fact the SD I wanted was less expensive because I wanted a manual tranny which isn't available on the F150 w/5.4L).
What else did I get? A truck that is: slightly bigger inside and outside, higher, taller, wider, longer that has more carrying capacity and just loooks cool..
One thing to consider in your case is the F250 CC shortbed is going to be overall longer than the F150 CC.. (In my case the F250 SC is only a tiny bit longer than F150 SC).
Thanks,
Cris
Does anyone know what the temperature is SUPPOSED to be coming out of the vents????
Also, has anyone else experienced this problem???
Thanx,
David
Your gonna love your truck!
the od "off" light flashed and the check engine light illuminated. Long story longer, it was flat bedded immediatly to the dealer. He has had it nearly a week. He found there are bad sensors and got the tranny working right, but now has to replace others to get the "off" light to stop blinking (indicating some other problem). Anyone know anything about service bulletins on this problem. I really was dissapointed more than anything that I am experiencing problems with this beast.
(Aprox. $12) that is found in the Excursion's center console. It's made for coffee mugs. I guess Ford thinks only Excursion owners drink coffee. You will loose your tray,but gain 2 cup holders. I hardly ever use the one in the dash anymore.
this tsb on the transmission:
4R100 auto trans shift flair; 99 F-SuperDuty:
An intermittent rise in engine RPM's at 2-3 or 3-4
shifts on certain calibrations may be caused by
reduced fluid control pressure in the solenoid
body. There is a new solenoid
body--F81Z-7G391-CB--and a revised computer
strategy to correct this. TSB#99-8-1
Also, there's that new tranny problem for the 2001
4R100 using the new diode that ford has recalled..
maybe, though probably not, you possibly could
have gotten that new tranny if you recently bought
your truck..?
THANKS AGAIN, I WILL POST THE RESULTS.
250 Crewcab:
1. Big truck(thats the guy in me talking) 2. Huge back seat(I am 6'-2" and with the front all the way back, my knees are not even close) many people have said it is like a limo feeling having all the room back there. 3. Solid front axle and manual hubs (that a plus in my book) 4. Availibility of the stick with the 5.4l(again a plus in my book) 5. Better payloads. 6. Better truck(I percieve the 250 as a better/heavier dutier product and expect that it will last longer (my opinion, I may be full of it!)) 7. personally, I like the looks better. 8. Costs pretty much the same as a 150. 9. Availability of the old fashioned shift 4x4.
Supercrew:
1. Back seat is much smaller(you can carry people comfortablly, just not as much room, my knees hit the seat back) 2. 5.4l engine combined with less weight 3. Cushier, made for the person that wants a ride like a car and the plush ammenitits that go along with it. 4. Shorter length=more manuverability and less payload volume.
When I look at the list, I can't figure out why anyone would get a supercrew. It seems to me that a 250 is so much more truck for equal money. But that is just my opinion. I want a truck that rides like a truck, manual hubs and all! Plus I like the shifter on the floor for the tranny and the Trans case and you just can't get those on the 150 Supercrew.
All of it is just my opinion, other people think differently. The things I put above are things for you to think about and see what is important to you. Make your own opinions and do what is right for you. Me? I ordered a 250 crew, 5.4l, 5spd manual, 4x4, captains chairs, tow mirrors, the bigger tires,4.10LS, Sliding window and Privacy glass, Keyless and reciever. I ordered it two years(actually 2 weeks but feels like years) ago and cannot wait. I test drove a 250 SC with the 5.4l and an auto and was pretty impressed with the acceleration and power. I was concerned before I drove it, but after I did drive it there wasn't a question in my mind.
Good luck!
My friend put it this way, "Two hours of driving with the two girls chattering six inches behind my head I was ready to stop at a rest area and leave them behind." Perhaps a slight exaggeration but a rather extreme measure.
I think the CC is great for a family car replacement. The Super Crew might be ok for a commuter and occasionally carry the kids in the back seat. The Super Cab is probably best for occasionally carrying consenting adults for an hour or two in the back seat.
Rich
F-150: I know for sure F-150s come in regular cab, SuperCab (the extended cab with half rear doors that I have) and the new SuperCrew with 4 full-size doors and the bigger back seat.
F-250: Apparently the newer F-250s come in both a SuperDuty and not SuperDuty versions. Correct? The non-SuperDuty versions, at least, are now using the F-150 body style (I've actually seen these around for myself) but do these come in all three F-150 cab styles (regular cab, SuperCab and SuperCrew)? Are the F-250 SuperDuty versions in the F-350 (and up) body style or the F-150 body style (I know the suspension/frame is the heavier F-350 type)? Do these SuperDuty F-250 versions have the regular and Crew Cab versions (I assume)?
And, as long as I'm asking questions, will "dot.com" companies finally have to show how they will make money to justify their sky-rocketing stock prices?
(I'm ignorant, but curious enough swallow my pride and ask.)
Last night I had the pleasure of taking my Mom to get her truck.
00 F250 Lariat,SC,V10,auto,4x4 on-the-fly, telescoping mirrors,tt w/receiver,off-road pkg, short bed, cab steps, island blue. The price I was able to get was $31,994 drive out. It was $29946 before TTL and stuff.
Anybody else have price comparison's????
Not that it matters now, thats the best deal I could get here in Atlanta.
Thanks,
KO
So, there was one model year (1999) when the F-250 was available in two different boby styles. Some of the older F-250s (those with F-150 body style) were badged as "Heavy Duty". I'm not sure if this for a suspension upgrade package they had, or if it applied to all 3/4 ton trucks that Ford made.
I hope I didn't further confuse you.
Dave
I apparently didn't ask the question correctly when talking to a Ford mechanic at the owner's clinic I attended last week. However, his answer did confirm your assumption that the F-150 body style "Heavy Duty" F-250s were a suspension upgrade (I just didn't ask nor understand that this was for 1999 only).
Thank you very much for the quick and clear-enough answer....
I pull a 35' 5th with it. To boost up the suspension,I installed "Air Ride" bags over the rear axle.(which I can control from the inside) It helps keep my truck level, and it smoothes out the roughness of the over worked truck lanes.
I also have an electric sliding tonno cover, which secures the box when not pulling my 5th.
Now I am looking to get exhaust brakes, power chip, 4" exhaust, KN filter and gauges (pyrometer, boost, trans temp) on the pillar.
Has any one out there got any input regarding any or all the above. Such as brand names, experience, quality ect.
That PSD is a great sound. If you want to hear it over the internet go to www.powerstrokeregistry.com
Have a good one.
oneshot- Don't put in higher wattage bulbs. Folks have experienced the socket melting when they did vice the housing. Maybe the connection was bad? Maybe they should have used dialectric grease? I don't know that I'd try it myself, be a guinea pig and splice that nice new wiring harness cause it melted? Some have used the (blue or white?) bulbs of the same wattage with limited improvement.
wburbank- You've probably spent alot of time there and are here looking for others experiences/brands, but if not try www.ford-diesel.com and get ready to read. There's a search function in the forums section which is helpful if you don't want to ask questions which have been asked before. Most have been.
In Dec of 99 I bought a Y2K F350 V10 auto Lariat CC long bed 4x4 loaded with every thing off the lot. MSRP was 35,825, I paid 31,500 out the door + warranty
In Sep of 2000(5 days ago) I traded the truck for Y2K F350 PSD CC Lariat long 4x2 6spd. I got 27,150 for the trade and the new truck cost 29,315 MSRP is 35,9XX.
MPG has gone from 10.5 to 21.
Hope this helps.