Buy or lease with negative equity?

askibum02askibum02 Member Posts: 18
edited August 2018 in General
My wife had her second rear end collision in as many years yesterday. I want to buy her a car that has collision avoidance, because I don’t know how much more my insurance will bear. She has a ‘16 Dodge Charger R/T currently and I am looking at getting her a Passat R-Line, Accord Sport, Camary XSE, or a Subaru Outback. The biggest issue is that I have about $7000 negative equity in the car. I talk to a sales person I have bought two cars from previously and he suggested leasing as a way to erase the negative equity sooner than keeping a car until it is completely payed off in 5-6 years. Thoughts?

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Check this Edmunds article:

    Upside Down and Underwater on a Car Loan

    The bottom line though is you can't make that $7,000 magically disappear. It's just how you sort of make it easier on yourself as you pay it down. You probably need to look at the lease terms on some of those specific vehicles and see how things would play out over time.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,720
    PF_Flyer said:

    Check this Edmunds article:

    Upside Down and Underwater on a Car Loan

    The bottom line though is you can't make that $7,000 magically disappear. It's just how you sort of make it easier on yourself as you pay it down. You probably need to look at the lease terms on some of those specific vehicles and see how things would play out over time.

    The problem with a lease is that you're trying to bury $7000 in only 36 payments; if you go with a traditional loan, you can stretch that out to 60 or more months.

    I know it's hard to fathom, but there will come a time where that $7K will be a lot less, if not gone altogether.

    Perhaps another accident will get the car totaled; at that point, the GAP will kick in and absolve you of the negative equity. (at this point, I'd insert a tongue-in-cheek emoji, but there isn't one)

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  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast Member Posts: 232
    Should you negotiate negative equity on a trade-in after negotiating the lease, or should you raise the issue up front?
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,663

    Should you negotiate negative equity on a trade-in after negotiating the lease, or should you raise the issue up front?

    There generally isn't much negotiation on trade-ins.. The UCM will tell the sales manager a number, and that's it. If they low-balled you, they might be more flexible on the new one, but the number is usually the number. So, if you get what you think is a poor offer, then tell your salesperson that you aren't going to bother with the rest of the deal.

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  • mb_enthusiastmb_enthusiast Member Posts: 232
    kyfdx said:

    Should you negotiate negative equity on a trade-in after negotiating the lease, or should you raise the issue up front?

    There generally isn't much negotiation on trade-ins.. The UCM will tell the sales manager a number, and that's it. If they low-balled you, they might be more flexible on the new one, but the number is usually the number. So, if you get what you think is a poor offer, then tell your salesperson that you aren't going to bother with the rest of the deal.
    Ok. I've gotten written offers in a close range, $5k to 7k. I've been telling them about the negative equity trade from the outset.
    My stable: 2019 Audi Q8, 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL63 AMG, and 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500W4Found new homes: 2017 Porsche Cayenne S, 2011 Mercedes-Benz R350 BlueTEC, and 2004 Volkswagen Phaeton V8Illinois real estate broker and commercial property manager
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