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Given the return trip south was heavy traffic and driving @ 75mph I am not dissapointed with results.
I hope this helps out.
Thanks.
Another consideration regarding mileage is what percentage of each trip is the transmission in 6th gear. If you are driving 40 mph, you may be in 5th gear much of the time. Then there are hills and headwinds/tailwinds to consider.
I also would think that to get the maximum mpg you would have to drive at 50 or 55 mph max. I would bet that the 32 mph claimed is at a speed we would consider uncomfortably slow.
My best mileage in my 3.6 Saturn Aura (EPA 26 Hwy) was 36 mpg for a 55 mile strech heading East on the Ohio Turnpike. It was flat, had a 10 mph tailwind, did not exceed 60 mph, cool enough to have A/C off and gassed up on the turnpike which minimized any idling, slow driving in lower gears etc. I reset computer every tankful; when I saw 30+ and climbing after pulling out onto the pike, it was game on. 30 miles later, I stopped at a rest area and lost .5 mpg as a result of that one stop. You never get wasted gas back, every braking action wastes gas. Reaccelerating up to 60 mph from 0 also took its toll.
The 36 mpg started dropping after getting near the eastern part of the state and the hills there. My previous best was 32 mpg in Virginia, it's usually at or under 30 mpg (Hwy); around town is 16 to 18 mpg when my average speed is 23 mph to 27 mph. Same car, mpg all over the place, all because of the speed, traffic, terrain, etc.
When you find yourself on a flat, light traffic highway, reset you computer and drive a steady 60 mph for 5 miles or more. If your under 30 mpg with the 4 cyl, you might have reason to be disappointed.
The Nox is averaging 18.2 so obviously it's much better, but really I am disappointed! Mostly city driving, but I am being as light as I can on the starts and I coast when possible.
Even when I did almost entirely highway for 4 days straight, it barely scraped its way up to 20.1.
I read in one post here that mpg will get better after about a year or 8000 miles. Is that a general view / experience?
This being said, I would suggest you fill your tank to the shut off point of the pump, note your gallons purchased and drive as you normally do until you reach the same point you needed to fill up and note the miles travelled during this period. Reset the average mileage on the driver info system to 0 at the first fill up and divide your miles driven by gallons purchased on the second fill up and compare this mpg to your driver info center mpg. Not scientific but it will give you a pretty good picture of your mpg.
Sorry for the long post.
My best highway trip has been 29 MPG over 250 miles of ~65mph driving.
So - it won't get 32, but high twenties is doable.
By comparison, I used to average 24-25mpg (28 highway) with my 2006 Taurus on the same driving cycle. The Taurus had 32 fewer horsepower than the 4 cyl. 'Nox., and weighed just a tad less.
My car before was a 2008 Saturn Vue Hybrid listed at 26-32, got 22.5 mpg overall, total lie. Turned my Saturn lease in for this Chevy Equinox 2011 4cyl LTZ. Great luxury inside but do not, I repeat do not expect more than 22 mpg overall. If someone says they get more they are lying.
Also it should be listed as mid sized not compact. Much bigger than the previous model. Hope this helps.
City - 20-21 mpg.
Hwy. - 25-27 mpg
I do find that figuring out the mpg the old fashion way does come up with a slightly higher number sometimes than the computer. I think the Hwy. EPA figures are based on driving at 55-60 mph, but no one drives that anymore. The higher the speeds, the lower the mpg. Highways are at 65-75 now days. The way I look at it is that all other 4 cyl. Crossovers were rated at 20/28 anyway and thats about what we are getting with our Equinox. We're happy with ours; no problems so far.
I also have a Terrain, which is a 4 cyl, and has had the recall done for cam phase actuators/module reflash and now averages 25+ in mixed driving and I have gotten 30 mpg on divided highways driving 60/65mph.
If you think people lie about this issue, I feel sorry for your preceptions but I don't lie and I am not one of those who have had lots of issues with the 4 cyl engines in both of my 2011 cars.
Please don't think I am flaming you but I think you are wrong in making a blanket statement like you did. :shades:
As they say, YMMV.
@ max speed 100kms hwy (62 miles per hr ) 50 mile return trip to nearest city on hwy very little city driving . MRSP sticker shows 41 miles per gal (imp) not even close!
My last vehicle was a pick-up that got 12 mpg so this is a big improvement. I can still fit all my gear inside when I travel alone. I would prefer a true manual transmission, but I may never see that again. I can not work out of a Corvette.
Original mileage, driven downhill in a tail wind could do no better than 22-23 in a tailwind, AVG.l around 19 city / hwy, that is worse than my 600 HP Mustang!
2 points I want to make,
1. The AWD car takes at least 10,000 miles to break it. Not the motor, the car’s drive-train and brakes have a lot of drag, and eventually the car rolls better.
2. We brought it in fro a reflash of the computer. The car now has a bit of faint lean surge, but now our avg. MPG over 10,000 mikes of driving is 25.3 mpg.
27 mpg hwy at 65mph is possible.
The Equinox is a value for the money, but I would like to see the next Equinox changed as follows.
Loose 500 Lbs.
Design more as a tall sport wagon vs. an SUV
Styling similar to a Toyota Versa
Needs better visibility, Pillars are huge and windows are way too tiny. Too much like a Camaro!
More versatile cargo area. Fold flat and removable rear seats.
Some reference points are the Subaru’s and Mazda cars.
The VW owned Czech Skoda Yeti is a brilliant Car,
Lots of technology, safety, standard features, utility, off road ability, ruggedness, reliability, comfort, room, good handling and not real ugly.
The 103 HP diesel/electric hybrid gets 53 Mpg! Gas 4 cylinder version is almost V6 fast. VW can’t build enough to satisfy Europe’s demand, so no import to America.
I’d like to see Chevy use their new 2.5L high torque 4 along with the ZF 9 speed auto. If equipped with plasma ignition and some of the proven super lean burn technology that is coming to market, +40 mpg with same or better performance is achievable.
A Chevy Volt version could get close to 50mpg. No magic/ very possible and worth a few thousand $$ extra.
My understanding is that GM has already introduced significant 6 Spd improvements in the 2012 Nox, and will offer even more improvements in the future that will allow it to trump any 9 SPD. Bottom line, these 9 SPDs you hear everyone clamoring about are nothing more than a marketing gimick. A 6 SPD with exceptional Engineering can beat a 9 SPD in mechanical losses, mass, and quality (less rotating parts and complexity). GM's real FE opportunity in the future is 6 SPD improvements, reduced vehicle mass and height of vehicle (like you said). I have to say though, my 2011 Nox feels substantial and safe. I get about 26 MPG in City/Hwy driving.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
It is a 12.75 minute test done on a dynamometer between 68 and 86 degrees. According to the test graph, the vehicle starts out at 0, accelerates to 50, slows to 30 once and accelerates to 60 and ends at 0. There are some small fluctuations, but never exceeds 60 mph, and the average speed is 48.3 mph. There are other graphs that are worth looking at, including future tests like cold weather, air conditioning and high speed (80 mph).
This chart gives detailed test comparisons:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
Note that the average speed is 48 mph, no A/C used, warm weather, no wind resistance and no exceeding 60 mph. So if you drive 70 mph in cold weather with the defroster on (A/C on) and you get 25 mpg, is it the car that can't get 32 mpg or is it that you and the conditions can't get 32 mpg?
I also wonder if the EPA test uses gasoline with 10% ethanol content, or if some people with apparent mileage problems are using fuel with a higher ethanol content.
Hope this aids the discussion.
But when, over six months, the best I can manage with a tank is around 18.5-19.5 (with about 20.5 on highways and 17.8-18.2 locally), then I think the car is to blame, not me, my luggage, the weather, the road, the terrain or any other manufacturer excuse.
Visit One, I had the computer reflashed.
Visit Two, they performed the recall#11195 (rough idle poor driveability) and they "installed SOP cam phasers" and "updated calibrations".
Visit Three, they discovered an "engine warning P0011: failure of intake manifold cam phaser solenoid" which apparently caused the stalling issue (for me, at least).
After all those corrections (for which I am nonetheless grateful), the overall mileage still only hovers around 19.8.
25???? When?
My biggest hope now is a couple of contributors who have suggested that the AWD mpg will continue to improve up through 10,000 miles or more. I am only at 6,500 right now. Fingers crossed. At this point, if I could only get to seeing 21-22 overall, I would celebrate.
If so, have you driven a short loop on the highway while maintaining a steady speed of 55 mph and zeroing your mpg figure at the start and returning to the same point and noting the figure?
If you did, and if you can't get in the high 20's, then I would say that you may have a mechanical issue. Could be engine related or a sticking brake caliper.
It is in the arragement of the planetary drives and redefining what a torque converter is supposed to do. These are not traditional slush boxees, but more mechanical direct transmisions that just use the torque converter not so much for torque multiplication but to allow the tansmission to stay in gear at very low engine speeds, and along with dampeners, to mometarily ease the shock during shifts.
We took our equinox in for some issues to be checked out , but not resolved, the electric tailgate would not operate in cold weather, the owners book states this could happen , salesmen do not tell you of course , and who looks at the owners book when buying a car!, poor economy dealership not interested , trip computer instaneous readout totally useless, remote does not always lock the doors, the service guy informed GM that I had installed a chip ( hoping it would void my warranty I,m sure)
but GM said it would not.
I can usually beat her mileage by 1-2 mpg at same speed by driving smooth and anticipating braking.
How do you change the rear wiper on this thing?
A GM rep offered us $1500.00 to go towards buying another GM product, because we had made complaints , why on earth would we do that.