By accessing this website, you acknowledge that Edmunds and its third party business partners may use cookies, pixels, and similar technologies to collect information about you and your interactions with the website as described in our
Privacy Statement, and you agree that your use of the website is subject to our
Visitor Agreement.
Comments
Make sure that the outside temp. is at least 60 deg. when you install them. I ordered mine from College Hills Honda.
Thanks a lot for providing me information in detail. I will wait and if TPMS light become active again I will talk to Dealer.
Once more thanks to every one for providing valuable information.
Phelps
Phelps
1-hold things like change
2-hold misc paper items (like receipts,cpns,etc)
3-maybe if i got lucky it could be used as a trashcan, too
I finally found it! I went into Walmart's office supply aisle and got a small 2 drawer black mesh wire apparatus. It fits perfectly down there on the floor and I used 2 strips of velcro to hold it down firmly. The bottom drawer is for trash and the top drawer is for paper and stuff.
For change and small odds and ends, I found a black plastic office organizer that I velcroed to the top of the drawers. It works great!! It has 3 sections for whatever you want to put in there.
It looks fine, blends in well, and I have even had people say. ...cool, where did you get that? If you want I will try to get a picture of it.
Hope this helps.
Since it's lined, I assumed that Honda intended the cubbyhole on the lower left side for that purpose. It works, but is a little low to be called convenient.
I was addressing the RAV4s fold down flat rear seats which allows for much more usable room instead of the CR-Vs sticking up behind the front seats and wasting space.
Most people I know read the original post before making their remarks.
No, my windshield is fine. I would think the distortion would need to be significant, and easily confirmed, to blur vision and cause headaches. Good luck.
yeah, me too
For example, when typing WalMart (save the comments) it will find one 500 miles away. There is no default setting telling the NAV to always find POI nearest to your location. The portable units have these settings as options.
I would suggest going to your local electronics store & try out a Garmin unit first. Then test drive the Honda NAV & you will see how crude the Honda system is. The Honda map database is about 3 years out of date (both roads & POI's). Try typing in your favorite restaurant with both systems & you will quickly see the Honda NAV's limitations.
That being said, we are guilty of not fully testing the Honda NAV system & just bought it based on the "hype". It will be your call if you really need a primitive integrated NAV system or a pod hanging from the windshield.
I would definatly recommend the system. If there are no CR-V's in the area with the system, try to find a Civic w/Navigation in the area. They us the same system.
I went with a Garmin StreetPilot c330 since I wanted a cloth interior in my Accord. It was only $328 at Wal-Mart, and has 3-D graphics, recalculates routes in approx 3-5 seconds (depending on complexity of the route), and gives you voice prompts for each turn.
Not to mention the 5 Million destination choices pre-programmed...
I also do not need bluetooth, I have a cell phone.
I personally think portable ones look tacky.
I guess the XM Radio pods on dashboards look tacky to you too, eh?
Personally, I have my Streetpilot placed right under my rear-view mirror, so it isn't placed randomly on the windshield. It's easy to reach, easy to see, and doesn't create much more a of a blind spot than my rear-view mirror did.
They look tacky to me. Although if my car did not have XM standard, I would not have got it any ways. I do not ever use it.
"Personally, I have my Streetpilot placed right under my rear-view mirror, so it isn't placed randomly on the windshield. It's easy to reach, easy to see, and doesn't create much more a of a blind spot than my rear-view mirror did."
That is fine to me, I just liked having the built in one, with the other upgrades.
Certainly, and there's nothing wrong with that (obviously, or it wouldn't be a popular option!).
Different strokes for...well, you know the rest.
TheGrad
Does the CRV Nav using 2D graphic or 3D graphic like some of the newer Nissan Nav? Also do it come with a backup camera?
For me, that's a benefit. I'm routinely traveling in three or four different vehicles! I leave the StreetPilot in my car all the time, so there's no constant taking it out and putting it in. Iinstallation from vehicle to vehicle is a breeze though. Just unlock the suction cup from the windshield, pull it off, then place it on the windshield of the next vehicle, and lock it on! It takes about as much time to remove it from the car as it does to crank the car and get in into Drive.
--how is the CR-V in deep snow ?
--how is it driving up an unplowed incline?
--could you drive the CR-V out of a parking spot on a street after a snow plow has gone by i.e. "plowed-in" ?
--etc.
Also, I don't understand how the CR-V's AWD system works with the VSA Traction Control...they seem to be at odds with each other: the CR-V AWD needs slippage to engage the rear wheels and the Traction Control tries to prevent any wheel from slipping.
Any experiences ?
Anyone using 4-Wheel Snow Tires ?
Has anyone driven both the CR-V and a RAV-4 in similar snow conditions ?
Thanks.
Mine usually stays attached though. I never carry it with me walking.
Unplowed incline - our is 9%. Sometimes I can make that with 6 inches of snow, sometimes I can't. Colder the better. Around freezing it will slip. I just bought chains so I can deal with that in a pinch. You HAVE to remember to turn the VSA off, or you're going nowhere.
It snowed 30" once and I pulled it out. But plow snow is different bear. Depends on how much.
If you are in these situations FREQUENTLY consider a Subaru or something with real 4WD.
M
Like I said though, I bought a camera bag for it for when I do feel the need to bring the system with me.
There are certainly good merits about both systems. The biggest ones for me were cost ($330 vs. $1,500-$2,000) and portability. For you, (it appears anyway) it's integrated looks, ease-of-use, and the extra features that come with the NAV.
Great idea but the local police forces - through the media - have advised of a rash of thefts of portable GPS'. People are lazy and don't want to constantly be installing/uninstalling.
To each his own.
Happy so far...
Good luck... MNF
But would you want to turn it off? If you turn it off, wouldn't you lose the stability function of the system? Is this the same VSA system used on the TL and Accord? The traction control function works only between the left and right wheels, and not fore and aft, does it not? So it doesn't really conflict directly with the way the RTAWD is designed to work, I wouldn't think.
Traction control works on the front two wheels. It distributes power between the left and right on the front axles.
VSA is different, although packaged along with the traction control. VSA can effectively brake any of the four wheels. The 2007 CR-V uses a four-channel ABS system with EBD. The system can brake a single wheel (or multiple wheels) to keep the vehicle pointed in the proper direction.
In short, TC is for maintaining traction while VSA is for maintaining direction.
How does TC work in combination with RT4WD? Good question.
TC can only moderate the speed of the two front wheels. RT4WD will kick in if there is a difference in speed between the front a rear. So, TC could theoretically have the two fronts slipping at 5 mph, while the rears are standing still. Of course, long before you got to that point, RT4WD would have kicked in with the rears.
My question is would I turn off VSA in this situation? It seems like I would want the car to stay straight, but the last thing I would want is the brakes being pressed.
Also, how would a Subie handle this situation different than a CRV?
One cool thing about portables are the custom POI lists that are available, often for free. I have one for WAWA stores, another for red light cams, another for known speed trap locations, etc.
Now, when I drive up to a speed trap, I hear a chime (if and only if I'm speeding more than a chosen threshold) and slow down. 1/2 mile later, they pull over the guy next to me, and I pass by, no problem. :shades:
There are trade-offs - smaller screen on most models, theft risk, etc. But advantages, too. We have 3 cars in the fleet so it would cost $6 grand or so on all 3!
-juice
If you had a manual transmission in the Forester, it would have started with a nominal 50/50 front/rear power bias and shifted power upon slippage. You would likely get good initial traction and not much drama. The CR-V would start off as 100% FWD and then start shifting power aft when the front wheels slip. Probably less sure footed than the permanent AWD of the Forester, but still way better than 2WD. A Forester with auto trans would be somewhere in between, because it has a nominal FWD bias (90% front / 10% rear) but proactively shifts power aft upon acceleration (and when slippage occurs of course).
There are some videos floating around that show Foresters and CR-Vs scrambling up dirt hills (or trying to in the latter case) and you can see a big Subaru advantage there. The Forester has no problem, but the CR-V never makes it more than 1/3 up the hill before the front and rear wheels start doing a disco and the vehicle comes to a stop with wheels spinning. We have no way of knowing if VSA/TC was on or off -- I saw no conclusive evidence either way. I don't know how relevant this is to the real world unless you plan on climbing a lot of dirt piles, but it does show some of the Forester AWD advantages and some of the potential CR-V RT-4WD handicaps.
Why doesn't Honda make a true AWD????????
But I think your question is probably more in line with, "Why does Honda use RT4WD for the CR-V?" The answer to that is also rooted in priorities.
RT4WD weighs about 110-115 lbs. Most permanent systems add anywhere between 200-250 lbs to a vehicle. That weight has a relatively minor negative impact on fuel economy and performance.
The fact that RT4WD is 100% FWD until slippage is a disadvantage in terms of providing traction. That's true enough. However, it is also an advantage in terms of efficiency. There are fewer powertrain losses due to friction. By eliminating those losses, the CR-V gains minor advantages in fuel economy and performance.
RT4WD is also relatively cheap and easy to maintain. Honestly, I dunno how much cheaper than any competitor's AWD, but it's one of the things I've read a number of times in Honda press materials.
Anyway. No one of those things is enough to seal the deal, but, when you add them all up, it gets more compelling. The result is a CR-V that is almost big enough to be considered a mid-size, yet a price tag and fuel economy on par with vehicles that are more compact.
thanks.