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2007 Honda CR-V



  • I live in California, but used to travel to Southern Mass several times a year, including winter time. I always asked Enterprise Rent a Car for a 4WD Escape, and several times I was glad that I had the extra control. There's some fairly steep hills on the road from PVD Airport to Uxbridge that made the extra $ worth it.

    Most of that extra $1800, if you can afford it, will come back to you at resale/trade time. The rest is insurance.
  • Thanks! I'm still up in the air. Most reports I have read is that it a nice bonus but not really necessary! Still undecided!
  • Let's try this (FYI):
    2006 CR-V SE 4WD 5AT (MSRP) = $25450
    2007 CR-V 4WD EX-L (MSRP) = $26000
    Price difference = $550
    2006 CR-V SE 4WD 5AT (Invoice) = $23,510
    2007 CR-V 4WD EX-L (Invoice) = $23,510 + $550 = $24060
    It can't be too far off. And there is nothing you can do with this for a month or two until the hype wears off.
    My motto: I absolutely refuse to pay MSRP!
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I'll decide for you -- get the AWD! ;) It's not just a matter of whether you have the option of calling in sick from work. What if you were already out, and in starts to snow, or you'll in the middle of a trip and the weather turns on you? It's cheap insurance. Look at the amount you pay every year for your house insurance. You probably haven't made any claim, but you still buy it every year.
  • But on the other hand, if you are already out and it starts to snow, you can find a cheap motel by the freeway and pay $50-$100 vs. $1000 difference between 2WD and 4WD. But if you are skier and you happen to be up there when it starts to snow - then you really need it. However, somebody made a good point - 4WD will make you drive better on the snow but it won't make you stop better! So, in the end - you decide what you need.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    Why would you waste or time and the time of a salesperson by test driving a car you don't like and know you won't buy?

    It is interesting reading the different opinions here.

    No car will please everybody, that's for sure!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    Another thing to consider is the resale down the road!

    A 2WD CRV can be a very hard car to sell in a northern climate. Very few people want one!
  • Just test drove 2007 EX in DC area. Good news is I liked it a lot. Seats good, no carpet issues as discussed on board, rear window a tad small as reported but not awful. Insides will not be confused with Lexus 330, but you are paying only 2/3rds the cost. Seemed fine to me.

    Only two concerns really. The sticker was asking for MSRP + destination + $1995 "market adjustment". The dealer was a Costco partner so I asked for their no haggle price. They lowered it to MSRP + destination, which isn't wonderful but was a $1995 cheaper. :sick:

    Second concern was mileage. The car had only driven 34 miles so it was a very small sample, but the mileage calculator was reporting 17.5 mpg. Not exactly close the the EPA numbers. :(

    For now I'm going to give it at least to the Spring to see if it drops in price.
  • ... at the dealer in Manchester, CT. Parked my '05 beside it for the eyeball comparo.

    Overall, the '07 seems more minivanish and girled up. To my eye, the nose's Kaiser-Fraser look doesn't get better in person. The sculpting on the sides and rear seemed like embellishments. Didn't like the D-pillar treatment. The interior also looked embellished, but I didn't see any particular functional improvement, it's just a little purtier. The new vehicle seemed smaller than mine, particularly in black.

    That said, Saabgirl, my missus, pronounced the '07 "cute" w/out prompting from me. (Though she didn't begin agitating for a trade.)

    That's my humble opinion, but I'll bet I'm way outnumbered by the Moms out there who will like the embellished treatment, will see the vehicle as safe and family budget friendly, will easily picture themselves at the wheel, cell phone in hand, with a back seat filled with kiddos.

    When I was shopping back in '05 I was looking for some ground clearance, a flip up rear window and easily reachable tie downs on all four corners. So the new version may not have made my short list.

    Just my .02.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602
    I'll bet those new mileage calculators are going to cause me trouble.

    This is a NEW car. During the pre-delivery inspections, they idle a lot. They get driven short distances on the lot etc.
  • lirlir Posts: 81
    "I'll bet I'm way outnumbered by the Moms out there who will like the embellished treatment, will see the vehicle as safe and family budget friendly, will easily picture themselves at the wheel, cell phone in hand, with a back seat filled with kiddos."

    I don't think you are outnumbered. Went to see it, and was very disappointed. I was hoping to trade in my Accord, but quickly changed my mind. Like you, I found it to be "van like" or "wagon like". Looked way smaller than my RAV4. I may consider the 06 CRV, which now looks very appealing to me. At my dealer, they are selling the 07 right at MSRP, but the sales manager who I've known for 15 years (we have 2 other Hondas), said he was willing to negotiate. Too bad I really don't want it, but I'm sure I would get a great deal for the 06.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Does the '07 have anything over the '06? Unless you like the new styling (and I don't know who would), the '06 does seem very appealing, in view of deals available. I guess the flip-up tailgate is an improvement, and the under-floor spare, but you lose the separate-opening glass, picnic table and ground clearance in the process. I one feature I do like is the auto-off headlights. But overall, I can see a lot of people rushing to get a remaining '06.
  • Last night I drove by the LHM Honda dealership in Salt Lake City. There were 8 2007 CR-V's lined up by the street. I saw no people lined up waiting to buy one. I don't think it'll sell much better than '06. It does look a little bit funny, from the front the grille goes up to front lights and it looks like CR-V has a big smile. But the exterior didn't look too bad. I was a little bit disappointed with the interior. It really doesn't look all that glamourous. It looked even a little bit on the cheaper side but yes - it's no Lexus but the price is right so I shouldn't be complaining.
    One thing though, I was wondering about that Navigation system. What good would that do to me in SLC? If I have business in LA for example, I jump on the plane and now how do I get around LA? I can't take out the Navigation system and take it with me. So why pay $2000 extra? You can buy a laptop for $500 and Microsoft Streets and Trips with GPS for $100 and take it with you wherever and whenever you want. Or you can buy a Garmin for $500 and have it with you all the time. I see back East people could use it if they drive around from town to town but around here (in the West) you don't get very far in a car. So, no CR-V with Navi for me!
  • Dont know what you folks are complaining about. I think the new styling is sleek. The old box styling with a rear door mounted spare tire is so 80s. The internal styling is also great. MP3/WMA player is standard. Safety features - Electronic Stability Control is standard on all models (Called VSA on Honda cars). We considered the RDX, TSX and the Lexus RX before deciding that we can get an SUV as good as the luxury cars for a little over half the price. Can't beat this deal.

    We bought an LX 2WD 07 CRV for 20K + TTL in Dallas today.
    - knocked off destination & 600 from the MSRP
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 64,724
    You are right about the gas mileage calculators.. A lot of in-town test driving will bring it way down.

    When we got our last car, it had around 65 miles on it (15 from my own test drive), and the gas mileage to that point was 14.3 mpg. The EPA numbers on the car are 18 city 25 highway..

    After 11,000 miles, we are averaging 23 mpg..


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  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    I agree it's a good value for the price, but nobody's ever going to confuse it with a luxury vehicle! However, you have probably come to the same realization I have in many cases: that the extra features on the luxury models are not necessarily something I want. I do think the EX model CR-V's are a little more middle of the road, and would be what I am shooting for in a car.
  • tenmactenmac Posts: 15
    I hear tell that the NAVI units wont be at the dealers till Xmas.

    For not just EX-L.

    You can get a pda with built in gps for 600 and it fits in your pocket. The navi in the car adds rearview monitor plus all kinds of fancy stuff for the audio system. The portable navi stuff takes a while to find themselves but the in-car systems know where the car last stopped rather quickly. I have a pda based navi and it is great for those who travel via other modes! But the incar units are great for those who generally dont fly away to other places. I await the HP new series pda/phone/gps for 1/4th the cost!
  • tenmactenmac Posts: 15
    AWD does not eat into the mpg to a great degree. Makes the vehicle more versatile not just in snow but also on rain slick roads. You could also go off the beaten path (light duty) and not worry about it.

    CRV without AWD is a hard sell in the used mkt, and dealer tells in the new mkt as well. Some switchers from domestic SUV vehicles are not yet sold on the AWD concept as they equate it to the old 4x4 which is mainly helpful in very tough situations and generally in straight lines only! Parking a vehicle in tight quarters while in 4x4 is murder but parking the AWD is a non issue. Some old Subus would balk while being parked due to their AWD mechs but the current technology does not bind at all.
  • saabgirlsaabgirl Posts: 184
    We considered the RDX, TSX and the Lexus RX before deciding that we can get an SUV as good as the luxury cars for a little over half the price. Can't beat this deal.

    I agree that value and styling strategy that imitates the next tier up will help sell many '07 CR-Vs.

    I'm sorry to see the "old box styling" end, because it perfectly matched the vehicle's intended function. I like that approach.

    On the other hand my neighbor bought a Hyundai (I think), because it "looks like a CR-V." I guess everybody gets to vote with their own hard-earned cash.

    At least the new Mini Cooper still looks like what it is, a Go Kart for semi-grownups.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "We considered the RDX, TSX and the Lexus RX before deciding that we can get an SUV as good as the luxury cars for a little over half the price."

    Well, at least the marketing folks at Honda will be ecstatic that you're lumping the CR-V in with this group. Unfortunately, its not the appropriate comparison. Using your logic, you should've bought a Hyundai Tucson, or a bus pass.
  • lirlir Posts: 81
    What is sleek to some people, is ugly to others. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just one more opinion to add to the many, nothing more, nothing less.... :shades:
  • harvey44harvey44 Posts: 178
    I sat in 2007 EXL yesterday at the fair. Very nice.

    The cons: no stick, cheap plastic interior, bad view out the rear. Other than that excellent.

    CRV vs Outback. I agree on all points.

  • fnamowiczfnamowicz Posts: 194
    Honda's 4WD is called Real Time 4-Wheel Drive which is essentially a sophisticated 2WD system.
    During traction loss on the front axle the system routes torque to the rear axle so for a brief moment you have 4WD (AWD).
    Doesn't mean much because only two wheels have traction.
    Once the front axle regains traction the system reverts back to 2WD.
    With Stability and Traction Control being standard Honda 4WD is not that important. The careful driver is still the best feature.

    Only my opinion.
  • joecarnutjoecarnut Posts: 215
    Congrats on your new CR-V and especially for getting a decent price.
  • extech2extech2 Posts: 120
    "but in general I have never understood why many people choose a poorer handling clunky SUV when there are much better vehicles out there for their purposes."

    Because every time we drive more than a few miles with my wife, 2 dogs and the parrot in our Accord, I wish we had an SUV instead. The sedan is too small inside. And if we had any children, they would be tied down outside to the roof rack. They wouldn't fit in the trunk because that's where we put the cooler and the folding chairs.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Well, minivans certainly carry more cargo than full-size SUVs, they carry people more comfortably, ride better, handle better, get better economy, and in some cases are a good deal quicker in acceleration too. (Again, this is only true of full-size SUVs compared to Minivans)...

    I feel like if people would get over the "stigma" of driving a minivan (C'mon people, I'm 19 and LOVED driving and riding our Odyssey - comfortable, roomy, and powerful!) they'd find a much more useful vehicle than their Expeditions and Tahoes...for much less money!

    The exception here is for towing, where the minivans can only handle 3,500-4,000 pounds.

    Check out a van!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,602

    Of you don't like the way it looks, buy something else!

    No matter what it looks like there will ALWAYS be people who don't like it!

    Sometimes I honestly think some people try to find things to complain about.
  • jimbresjimbres Posts: 2,025
    "Safety features - Electronic Stability Control is standard on all models (Called VSA on Honda cars)."

    Are you aware that VSA has been a standard feature on the CR-V since the '05 model year?
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    I would think a wagon or CR-V sized CUV makes more sense for that kind of load/usage, and if you did have kids, a minivan would make more sense. Heavy towing is about the only reason I'd be going for a larger SUV.
  • Saw a commercial with the new CRV, going from black to white as popcorn popped as if the CRV was a microwave bag of popcorn. Car ads sure are getting funny.
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