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At this point...don't worry about it.
The Sandman
I had a local mechanic check it and found out my block was cracked (defective casting).
I had it towed to the dealer and was told there is a recall on water pump bolts coming loose and leaking water. In my case the block was cracked and the head of service wanted me to pay $1450.00 (half the replacement cost). Come to find out the 2006 Honda Civic has a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty!!!! The same person who was in my face about me paying for the replacement was literally kissing my feet and could not have been nicer, they even arranged a free rental until my cari is repaired.
The a/c reflash has stopped any hot air issues, even though I only felt it like three different times.
Still love the car and the only car I'd think to replace it with at this point would be the Nissan Sentra with the CVT tranny. Drove a bit more powerful than the Civic and shifted much smoother also, as smooth as our Mazda 3s. Just not to crazy about it's looks.
The Sandman
Thanks.
Live and learn...still a great car.
The Sandman
Also, in the difference between a recall and a TSB, will you be out of pocket for a TSB repair itself?
The Sandman :confuse:
http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-sedan/warranty.aspx
T I A.
The Sandman
Yet another reason to get an automatic.
Also when we come to a rolling stop then accelerate the car stubbles then takes off. Dealer says this is normal because of electronics in the throttle setup.
any comments or resolutions would be appreciated.
Overall we are not impressed with the "2006 car of the year"
It isn't an Accord V6, but it's not a horse and buggy either; the 140 horse Civic is more powerful than my '96 Accord, and has an extra gear in the transmission to boot!
My car has been experiencing really bad vibration and tire wear on the back ever since about 15,000 miles on it. At first it didn't bother me too much because it only occured at high speeds 70 + ). It got worse at all speeds so I finally was going to buy new tires to see if that helped. While searching for tires I came across the TSB 08-001. That explained my problems to the T. Took it to the dealership and printed out the TSB and said I want this work done. He also informed me that there was a recall on the Pulley Bolts and they would do that and call me about the TSB.
They agreed to replace the controller arms at their cost and did the recall work as well. He also said I needed new tires. I explained to him that I should not have to foot the full bill for the tires since I should expect to get 50k-60k on these tires. He was very professional and helpful and said his hands were ties and I should call America Honda.
I call them explained the situation and they told me to call Goodyear. I call Goodyear and they said they will not offer any assistance since they know about the TSB and acknowledge that there is a defect from Honda causing the issue. Was told to contact Honda again. Saw the run around coming a mile away so I kept my cool and thanked her for her time.
Called Honda and this time they opened a case and asked what I think should be done. I told them I expect them to pay for 50% of the new tires and cover the work costs associated with it. I said 50% because I have 25k on them and I do expect 50k from my tires.
On Monday, Honda case worker calls and says he need to talk with the dealership to see what they can do. Today is Wednesday and I still have not heard anything. Must take multiple days to make a call .
I am usually not this avid about things like this but this a crock. This issue should not be a TSB it should be a recall. The consumer should not be footed with a bill that Honda is responsible for. I am not sure what the outcome will be, but I will go to small claims court for this out of principle. This run around I am doing should not have to occur. They recognize they have an problem, now do the right thing by the customer and fix it completely.
Like my car, dealership has been good to work with, but Honda corporate policy has me T'd off right now
Our sales manager's daughter has a Civic which had the issue just like my dad's (and yours). After many phone calls, he got $94 out of American Honda, and actually offered to give that to my dad. He wouldn't take it though, saying it was the principle of the thing.
He wasn't happy with the dealers (he uses 2) in the first place. He bought the car in Birmingham (Serra Honda), but uses a service department on the Gulf Coast (Tameron Honda in Daphne, AL). Serra, where the sales manager we use is, wouldn't help, saying since Tameron did the work, they had to get money for the tires, and they had already said there was nothing they could do (not bothering to help with American Honda).
It is sad that our Honda dealer (Serra), previously known for having great customer service, now just says "call Honda's 1-800 number and tell them your problem.
The Civic, and my Accord are likely the last Hondas we'll own, at least until we can see that something has changed. They are loving their new '08 Ford Taurus (which they own as well as the Civic), and have no complaints so far.
Interestingly, a Taurus can be had for the price of a Civic!
Speaking of the Civic...how about those 2006-2007 issues, eh?
The Sandman :confuse:
And maybe not even then. The last set of OEM Michelins I had needed replacement after only 30k miles, and that was with rotating every 6k. Yet I just bought a minivan with low-end OEM Goodyears on it, and they still have good tread on them at just over 50k miles, will probably last another 10k at least. Go figure.
That was me who said based on the last 5-6 sets of tires I have owned. I rotate every 6,000 miles and I have never needed a tired replaced before 50,000, not once. I always buy Goodyear and Kumho tires. So nothing to back this other then perception/expereince is reality.
The Sandman
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/tires-auto-parts/tires/tire-sorter-cars/- allseason-tires-1105/overview/
Here is an excerpt (emphasis added by me):
Tread life is important, but it shouldn’t outweigh braking, handling, and other critical safety factors. Indeed, tires that last too long may pose a safety risk, since rubber compounds deteriorate with age. That has led some automakers to recommend discarding tires after six years, regardless of wear. So far, the list includes BMW, DaimlerChrysler, Ford, Mazda, and Volkswagen, though not General Motors.
We recommend that you check your tires regularly for wear, cuts, and bulges, and replace tires older than 10 years.
So I think my 18-month old tires still have some safe life left in them, as long as they haven't been abused or damaged.
T I A all.
The Sandman
God help you...
I don't know the number sandman, sorry. Don't expect anything when you do call, though. Keep us posted!
The Sandman