Well finally got done talking with my case manager and Honda has agreed to replace all 4 tires at a 50/50 split. From the start I said I was in agreement with this and happy this is the final outcome.
The nice lady at Honda gave me the info I needed to fax off the receipts about the tires. I'd be more than happy to get a 50% repayment but am not expecting much. Hope they'll do something though. The Sandman
If you want to have a good all around, all-season tire, I would have to say go with the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred. I have a set on my '94 Accord, put them on 3-07 and currently have almost 34k miles on them. Honest to God, they look nearly new! As a fellow snow-belter (southern OH), I understand the need to have a tire that can handle all weather situations. Had Michelin Weatherhandler Sports on before, hated them, gripped good but were terrible in the rain. Got the Goodyear TripleTreds, and have been extremely happy with them. Good grip in the dry, V-pattern throws water like crazy, and center ice band really does improve winter grip. On a car with no ABS, traction or stability control, it does great in the snow with them on. Love the tires, look 'em up, they're pricey but totally worth it. Dad just put a set on his '02 Pontiac Grand Prix and loves them.
07 civic ex coupe, at 5K had the right front strut replace, 9K had oil leak at timing cover, replace rear tire oil seal, at 14K had to replace left front strut. What wrong with honda quality these days? I wish I bought a Toyota.
Sounds like a lemon. Every car company has some lemons, always have. Consult your state's Lemon Law, you seem to have a pattern of problems that may qualify you for replacement consideration. Truth is though, if you look at reviews of this vehicle, it is well regarded. I have come to the conclusion that this forum is an excellent place to share problems and seek assistance, but should not be considered a representative sample for judging the vehicle or the company. One of these days I'm going to look at the Toyota, Nissan and Hyundai forums to see if they collect the complaints as well. I like my Civic a lot despite wheel bearing and water pump issues that Honda took care of. I like my Nissan vehicle too. I've had excellent Toyota's. The only vehicles I have loved but suffered with quality/repair issues with that seemed almost universal, afflicting almost every owner at some point was with some VW's... and the auto experts at mags and Consumer Reports validated the perception. Good luck... but fight Honda and use the law to get consumer justice!
I too had the same problem .The first time honda replaced my tires after 3 tire places gave them different reasons.the second time they only replaced one tire and they ddidnt even put the same kind of tire back on the car
I've got about 10K on Continental ContiExtremeContact. Great tires. Billed as Super High Performance All Season. Grip really well on tight, twisty roads on dry and wet pavement. Also did well the one time I had them in snow. Slightly lower profile than stock, makes my Coupe look lowered. Reasonably priced and cool lookin'. I like 'em.
My 2007 Civic EX coupe is less than 2 years old. This summer, the steering wheel began vibrating when I applied the brakes at highway speeds. I took it to the dealer and the diagnosis was warped rotors.
I couldn't believe this could happen to a virtually brand-new car at only 27,000 miles. (My last Honda didn't have ANY braking issues until 80,000 miles or so. Same commute, same driving style.)
The service rep told me this was "normal wear and tear" and rotor resurfacing wouldn't be covered by warranty. They finally paid for it after I requested to talk with the manager (the service rep did everything possible to stall me and used every excuse in the book not to have me talk with him -- so disappointing.)
I like the Civic, but I just don't trust this car the way I trusted my previous Honda. This is yet another problem that has popped up in two years of ownership. Not happy at all.
I have owned 14 Hondas from civics, integras, EL, accords, to crv's. Maybe 2 of them had no problem with rotors before 30.000. Basically, when your rotors were hot, you must have driven in a cold water puddle or did hard braking which can result in warping when rotor overheats. To me Honda rotors are one of their weakness. But this is the only thing that carrie's over as a problem from one Honda to another almost like a virus. As long as you can get them replaced under warranty, it's fine. The minute they won't cover this as warranty, go buy a good set of aftermarket performance rotors. To me worth every penny as these are easier on brake pads and give you better braking. If you get them on sale, they will cost you about the same as original honda crapy rotors.
Thanks for that info. Can you recommend a specific aftermarket product? I have 45 K with no problems but expect to need brake work for my '06 Civic soon.
I live in Canada. So, i went and bought Canadian Tire performance rotors. They are cheap when on sale, and are twice the original honda crapy rotor. Sale usually says buy one and get the second half price. One thing about them, if they ever warp, you can't turn them. I have yet to see one warp. Then again, I don't keep my cars long enough to seeit I guess.
If I lived in USA, I would most likely try Walmart.
The reason that Honda has ignored you is because it's a known problem and they don't want to acknowledge that they went cheaper on the rotors. Who would admit that kind of liability? They did admit it in the 90's on the Civic. TSB (technical service bulletin was issued) It said that the rotors weren't manufactured "true" and even and had to be turned right out of the box, brand new! But your problem is over time not in the beginning. Just mentioning that's the only time Honda admitted to having a problem.
To point out the issue with your car, bellagio, it's typical for the Honda rotors under more than gentle usage to warp. Sure, it could be because you were braking hard and drove through a puddle which caused the warpage, but do you really want to have to be that careful with your brakes? It's a car, not fine dishware!
When I had this problem on my Civic, I was a little slow in learning. Turning after turning and even replacing the rotors with another pair from Honda I slowly learned that the quality was to blame. They weren't engineered to last past 30,000 miles. What did I do? I went to www.tirerack.com and bought the Brembo branded OEM replacement rotor/disc. Never had another problem with warpage, for 6 years until the rotors were used up and had to be replaced.
I also replaced the Honda pads with Porterfield's R4-S pad as well. Finally more bite, no more squeaking, and much faster stopping. But that's another post in itself.
One other thing that about warpage people ignore. They think it is automatically time to turn the rotors. What I have found is that (research google as well, if you don't believe me) most vibration, "warpage" comes from a brake pad that doesn't have enough friction. Small amounts of the pad get left behind on the rotor's surface and this causes the vibration. If a runout dial is used, it would indicate that warpage has occured, but really what they're measuring is the pad debris burned into the rotor's face. Solution? Upgrade to a higher friction pad and it will clean the rotor off. That's how I got 6 years out of that set of Brembo oem rotors and Porterfield's R4-S pad.
Yes I know it's a lengthy explanation but needed to help a fellow Honda owner understand what's happening.
My advice: Don't bother with the Honda rotors/pads again, seriously. You'll waste time and money, not to mention frustration when it this warpage happens again. Just replace with Brembo's rotors (same size as stock, not a big upgrade) and you'll be happy again. For less money too!
This is all very interesting and frightening. I'm a woman and know nothing about cars and how they work. How do you know when to replace the rotors, or will you know when you can't stop the car? Also, is it possible to buy better rotors and then have someone else put them on, say at a auto repair shop? How about a tire store that also does maintenance work?
Hey Mark, Just wanted to thank you for your comprehensive explanation and specific recommendations for dealing with rotors/pads. Bellagio has started an enlightening thread and you have provided valuable info. At 42K my brakes seem fine (no vibes, clean stops) but will be due for a check this month. If they are near the end, I will follow your advice and go aftermarket. I will try to do some research on the subject and share what I come up with, but so far your recommendation and JonesBB(thanks Jones!) are useful starting points. I rarely get this much out of my brakes except for a 1995 Maxima that had 95K fronts before a pad change (really!).
kathyc1- don't be afraid. I was NOT saying that the rotors are just going to dissolve under you! You just need to not pay to have the rotors "turned" when the time comes to replace them. When is that? When they start vibrating/pulsating when you try and stop. Usually happens around 30,000 miles. If you're not vibrating then, then don't worry about it.
It is possible to have someone put them on, of course. The Honda dealer put on aftermarket rotors and brake pads on my civic. They don't care since there is no warranty through them. Some dealers will do aftermarket parts work some won't. Since the brakes are a wear/tear item. There isn't much chance of any warranty support anyway at 30,000 miles.
Hi Neal- You're welcome for the explanation, glad to help share my personal experiences with a couple of Hondas that I've had.
To help you with your research. The pads that I purchased were the R4-S pad from porterfield-brakes.com Just purchased another set after 6 years on the first set. If you do put these pads on your car you will come back here smiling and say thanks! No I know that sounds arrogant, it's just that they ARE THAT GOOD! I was amazed how much more stopping power after putting them on. They broke in over about a 1-2 week period. The bite became stronger and stronger to the point that if you hit the pedal halfway down you might be kissing the dash! Not bad at all.
I guess for me recommending the Brembo OEM replacement rotors/discs from tirerack.com and the porterfield pads was just to help others unsure of questionable quality from other sources. And since I was the guinea pig, makes it easier for others to install them and not have to worry if it's going to work. Frustrating when things don't work out, nice when it's smooth going!
I also own a 2006 Honda Civic. I have had many problems with this car but the breaks have been perfect. With your mileage you are going to need brakes soon. If I were you I would do it now before you do any damage to the rotors. Brake pads are cheap and the little bit of money you are going to save is not worth the risk of damaging the rotors. I bought OEM brake pads off of Ebay. They are a high quality pad even though some people will disagree with me, and you are assured of having a perfect fit with all the parts. I changed my brake pads at 36,000 miles and I might have been able to get another 5-10,000 miles out of the old ones. The rotors were perfect so only the pads needed to be changed. I did it myself and the cost was under fifty dollars.
Ok, I've got to chime-in on my problem that seems to be a repeating topic on this forum. We just returned home from a 4482 mile road trip through the southwest. Somewhere around Albuquerque (half way point) I thought I noticed some rear tire wear not seen before. When home, I took a good look, and the rear tires are trashed. Worn to the inside - bad! Is this condition similar to those that others have complained about? All in all, the Honda performed great. Even with the A/C running most of the time, it still averaged 38mpg. I drive the posted speed limit. This is a 2007 Honda Civic EX with P205/55R16 Turanza EL400 tires.
The car has about 37,000 miles on it. About 4 months ago, at start-up, and for about 15 minutes of running, the engine developed a distinctive whirring whine which increases in pitch as the car accelerates and turns corners. Then the noise disappears. I drove it over to the dealers' local place, but by the time I got there, the whine had disappeared. However, the whine persists and has gotten a bit louder. Is it likely to be coming from the transmission, and if so, what can I do to reduce or eliminate this noise? So far as I can tell, it has no effect on the car's performance.
Hard to tell what the whine is coming from, for instance, could be the alternator, the tensioner pulley, transmission, waterpump, ????
If this only happens when cold, arrange to have your car dropped off at the dealership and they keep it overnight. Then when they start it in the morning they can hear the noise and locate the source of the problem.
I just changed the oil on my 06 civic and cannot get the computer to reset the maintenance minder. I have done it many times before and it reset as it should. Now this time no matter what I do it wont reset. All I can get it to go is blink a lot and thats it. Any suggestions please.
Honda called and is cutting me a check for $267. for only the two tires that wore before even reaching 8k miles. Didn't think I'd get squat since I swapped them out at a local tire store and they relied on their word that the tires were indeed worn in certain places. Would've liked to have gotten the $ for all four tires but I will happily take the $. Sometimes one has to be happy with whatever comes along!
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I need to get the arm replaced on my suspension as it is faulty....surprise, surprise. Honda sais that once it is replaced I will not have the same problem again. My question to anyone out there this:
Does this problem re-occure? Do the tires keep wearing at a fast pace? Has anyone else had to have the arms replaced more than once?
I just don't trust this car however much I love the sleek look of it. I also seem to have a problem with the acceleration. When I push the gas pedal it seems to have a bit of a lag and I don't like it. Just doesn't seem like a solid car!
If so, I am out of here and buying a Toyota Matrix.
I have a 2007 Civic EX coupe. I don't have any problem with the tires, so far, but I've said it before here that you should not get yourself into a situation where you have to get out of the way in a hurry. This car can't do that. I believe my 2002 Civic was better in that area. Wait until the light turns red before making that left turn. Scary!
Flawless acceleration on my '06 LX with just under 18k on the clock. Been quite satisfied overall with the performance of the engine. Not as powerful as our '05 3s, but that's due to the smaller 1.8 engine as compared to the 2.3 on the Mazda. Even with the few warranty issues with this car, still am very happy with my 1st Honda product. The rest of the family is very happy with it also and my oldest wants it but will be buying her her own new car within the next month or so.
I have the same problem with my 2007 Civic. The A/C went out and when I took it to the dealer they told me a rock cracked the condenser and that my warranty wouldn't cover it. The service manager's name was Wayne.....just wondering if that is a coincidence or if you took it to the Honda dealership in Santa Barbara as well. He played dumb....and acted like he didn't know if anybody else ever had this problem.
I have had this problem for a long time on my 2006 civic hybrid. I now have about 103,000 miles on it and have gone through 2 1/2 sets of tires and going on the forth set. The rear tires have experienced the worse wear on the inside edges.
I just had a blow-out in carpool lane this morning while driving at 70MPH. It was scary. I had not noticed the very excessive inside wear on this set. I looked at the other side and it is ready to go as well. Outside wear has plenty left.
I know my car is no longer under warranty. But I am trying to get a copy of the TSB 08-001 to take to the dealership. I tried arguing with Honda prior to my warranty ending and it got me nowhere!
Maybe now I can use this as a tool to a least have them fix the root of my problem without me having to pay for it!
Appriciate an e-mail copy of it or link to where I can print it out.
The A/C issue is a well documented problem at American Honda Motor Co. I should know, I did a lot of the documenting... I used to work cases for Honda at their corporate office in Torrance Ca.
Heck, even if its out of warranty, you have a really good chance of getting a free repair. this is what you must do
Call the customer service line at 1.800.999.1009
Connect with a rep. Have all of your info handy (vin and dealer info) and service records handy, having service done exclusively at Honda Dealers really earns you credit for "FREE REPAIRS" although an old friend who still worked there told me they stopped doing that. It still would help in my opinion.
Explain your situation, they've heard it literally thousands of times by now. The condenser, due to its location is susceptible to being punctured by rocks.
A case and case # will be generated. After being inspected by a Honda dealer, your issue will be documented at the dealer. A regional case manager will call you within 1-3 business days and will gather necessary information from the dealer to decide if the situation merits a "FREE REPAIR"
Which for an A/C condenser should merit a free repair, Honda tells their regional case managers to be "generous" with particular situations such as this.
Honda sets aside literally millions of dollars to do out of warranty work for Honda customers who they believe will remain loyal to Honda. Under no circumstances threaten to "never by a Honda" in the future. In their eyes, doing free repairs retains future purchases from current customers. Its all about the dollars after all!
and FYI to everyone who has a Honda, this method can work for almost any issue not covered under warranty except for maybe wear and tear items. But even tires might get paid for (partially) if they were 1) purchased at a dealer and 2) had significant premature wear
The key is to be nice to the dealer and to your case manager, they're people too you know. If you're an [non-permissible content removed], they can be an [non-permissible content removed] because after all, your vehicle isn't covered under warranty and they are at no obligation to pay for anything.
I had to get my rear arms replaced a few weeks ago. Honda sent out a "service memo" to the dealerships notifying them about this. They went ahead and changed mine out, even though I was not having issues that suggested they needed to be replaced.
I have been having issues since 11/4/08. My dealership has had my car for 8 cumulative days, and in those visits, I have left with new left and right front struts (two weeks apart), new rear arms, and a new door lock actuator. I still hear the noise that I am complaining about, but the mechanics are now saying that my shoes are rubbing on my drums (rear brakes). I only have 21,500 miles on my 2007, and I have been having issues since around 19500.
I picked my car up today, after they had it two days this week, with the "answer" from the mechanic being that it is "not fixable." I do not understand how they can say that yes, my car makes a noise, but it is not abnormal for a car, that I bought brand new and have owned for less than a year and a half, to have these issues. The mechanic supposedly drove another 2007 civic with similar miles, and the car made the same noise, which was the foundation for their comment to me - that it is NORMAL. I cannot accept that it is normal for a new car to make this much noise. I bought a new car to keep from hearing these noises!
I feel as though they were throwing parts at the problem for the last month and almost a half, and still have no answer. The noise that I brought my car in for was not addressed, because they were unable to recreate the noise. At this time, I am beginning to look at the Lemon Law, and have contemplated representation.
Is anyone having problems with strange noises - resulting from when you turn the steering wheel, specifically to the right?
On the first cool day of the fall down here in coastal SC, my star-performing (to date, knock on wood) 2004 model, bought new in CT, began to emanate a whirring or whining sound at start-up. The local oil-change guy said it was because the temperature had been lower overnight, and that "all cars do that." Well, it hadn't done it before. I drove it over to the local dealer, but the sound had disappeared by the time I got there, and the service guy said there was no detectable sound. He was correct. The sound persisted for the next two or three weeks, and I brought the car in for a routine oil change. By the next morning after that, the sound disappeared and has never since re-occurred, even on mornings where the temperature at dawn has been in the 30s. I still have no idea of what was causing this, but I'm grateful that it has gone away. Has anyone else experienced this? And if so, were you able to diagnose the cause?.
I traded my 06 civic a while ago due to the many problems it had but in repsonse to KNFIELD, my car had a very annoying noise when I used to turn the steering wheel when the car was cold like sitting over night and or between getting to work and lunch time.
It was kind off a clunk or something like that, they were never able to diagnose or fix it.
After I got rid of the car, I did reasearch and found something about the bump stops for the front end. I believe there was a TSB issued for this but again, it didn't matter at that point. The TSB had to due with defective bump stops that were not manufactured to the correct specs, thus when turning the wheel a clunk or noise would occur.
Yes, my 07 with 18K mile make noise when I turn to the right at slow speed- 5 to 10 mph- take to dealer and they said they cannot hear it, take it home and wait for it got louder, still 1 year left on the warranty. I think it is something wrong with the left strut. 1 year ago at 5k miles, it made small noise when I brake at 5mph, took it to the dealer and they replaced the right strut. I think the quality of honda these days is not the same as before, too many recall- oil leak, rear seal, water pump pully, etc.,
I had a problem with my 06 ex civic 4drsd. when it got cold there was a noise. I drove to the dealer and it went away but they kept it overnight to make sure. It started again in the morning and it turned out to be the powersteering pump.It was replaced by the dealer under warranty. The car has 18,500 miles on it and only driven by my wife to/from work not hard and far.
Basically the same mileage on my '06 LX but no noises like that yet. Had the Water Pump recall and they did the Lug Bug thing and the Rear Control Arms but reimbursed me 1/2 for the rear tires. Know it's alot for my 1st Honda product but still loving the car. Have a '08 Accord LX-P rental outside now and it's been a joy to drive these past five days while we were out of town. Took only about 3/8 of a tank from Orlando down to Pompano Beach this afternoon and was smooth as silk down the Florida Turnpike. No comparison to the Malibu :lemon: they switched us out of earlier in the week due to a faulty tire pressure monitoring system...NO COMPARISON. Honda still rocks!
I was thinking of adding accessory running lights to my '06 coupe. Does anyone have any recommendations or cautionary tales? Also has anyone done a horn replacement to the anemic standard horn that the car comes with? Any websites for purchasing that you recommend? Thanks, Neal
I had the fog lights installed on my 06 coupe. I think they are great. The price was kind of steep, but I had them add them in before we negotiated the price and I got a pretty good deal on the car. Very effective and they really add to the looks of the front end.
Stupid me, I got the water pump notice, put it down and forgot about it. Now I'm having to go in today for them to make the repair and I have to drive over 50 miles to get there and will be nervous the whole time. I haven't noticed any leaks or such to say I have a problem, but this will teach me to take action right away. I've had no problems with the car so have become complacent.
Yes, the Civic does have a somewhat wimpy horn but the Accord's is just plain to loud and obtrusive. Honda needs to find one in the middle there for both cars.
I got everything taken care of concerning the water pump. They said it's not the same problem I had with the '02 Civic, but that was also the water pump. Took about 2 hours so now I feel a bit more safe...until the next thing turns up. I only have a little over 10,000 miles on the car so who knows what's down the road waiting. I still enjoy driving it and hopefully the motor won't fall out some day.
I have a 2006 EX, just wondering if anyone else has had a problem or replaced their heater fan? The other day when I was driving it made alot of noise (like a bad bearing) It has since quieted down but it still making noise.
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Just trying to pass-on some info.
I couldn't believe this could happen to a virtually brand-new car at only 27,000 miles. (My last Honda didn't have ANY braking issues until 80,000 miles or so. Same commute, same driving style.)
The service rep told me this was "normal wear and tear" and rotor resurfacing wouldn't be covered by warranty. They finally paid for it after I requested to talk with the manager (the service rep did everything possible to stall me and used every excuse in the book not to have me talk with him -- so disappointing.)
I like the Civic, but I just don't trust this car the way I trusted my previous Honda. This is yet another problem that has popped up in two years of ownership. Not happy at all.
Good luck
If I lived in USA, I would most likely try Walmart.
Good luck
To point out the issue with your car, bellagio, it's typical for the Honda rotors under more than gentle usage to warp. Sure, it could be because you were braking hard and drove through a puddle which caused the warpage, but do you really want to have to be that careful with your brakes? It's a car, not fine dishware!
When I had this problem on my Civic, I was a little slow in learning. Turning after turning and even replacing the rotors with another pair from Honda I slowly learned that the quality was to blame. They weren't engineered to last past 30,000 miles. What did I do? I went to www.tirerack.com and bought the Brembo branded OEM replacement rotor/disc. Never had another problem with warpage, for 6 years until the rotors were used up and had to be replaced.
I also replaced the Honda pads with Porterfield's R4-S pad as well. Finally more bite, no more squeaking, and much faster stopping. But that's another post in itself.
One other thing that about warpage people ignore. They think it is automatically time to turn the rotors. What I have found is that (research google as well, if you don't believe me) most vibration, "warpage" comes from a brake pad that doesn't have enough friction. Small amounts of the pad get left behind on the rotor's surface and this causes the vibration. If a runout dial is used, it would indicate that warpage has occured, but really what they're measuring is the pad debris burned into the rotor's face. Solution? Upgrade to a higher friction pad and it will clean the rotor off. That's how I got 6 years out of that set of Brembo oem rotors and Porterfield's R4-S pad.
Yes I know it's a lengthy explanation but needed to help a fellow Honda owner understand what's happening.
My advice: Don't bother with the Honda rotors/pads again, seriously. You'll waste time and money, not to mention frustration when it this warpage happens again. Just replace with Brembo's rotors (same size as stock, not a big upgrade) and you'll be happy again. For less money too!
Just wanted to thank you for your comprehensive explanation and specific recommendations for dealing with rotors/pads. Bellagio has started an enlightening thread and you have provided valuable info. At 42K my brakes seem fine (no vibes, clean stops) but will be due for a check this month. If they are near the end, I will follow your advice and go aftermarket. I will try to do some research on the subject and share what I come up with, but so far your recommendation and JonesBB(thanks Jones!) are useful starting points. I rarely get this much out of my brakes except for a 1995 Maxima that had 95K fronts before a pad change (really!).
I win!
Haha... the car had a ton of highway miles, so brakes lasted forever. I still have the original rear drums at 184k on my 1996 Accord LX I4.
don't be afraid. I was NOT saying that the rotors are just going to dissolve under you! You just need to not pay to have the rotors "turned" when the time comes to replace them. When is that? When they start vibrating/pulsating when you try and stop. Usually happens around 30,000 miles. If you're not vibrating then, then don't worry about it.
It is possible to have someone put them on, of course. The Honda dealer put on aftermarket rotors and brake pads on my civic. They don't care since there is no warranty through them. Some dealers will do aftermarket parts work some won't. Since the brakes are a wear/tear item. There isn't much chance of any warranty support anyway at 30,000 miles.
You're welcome for the explanation, glad to help share my personal experiences with a couple of Hondas that I've had.
To help you with your research. The pads that I purchased were the R4-S pad from porterfield-brakes.com Just purchased another set after 6 years on the first set. If you do put these pads on your car you will come back here smiling and say thanks! No I know that sounds arrogant, it's just that they ARE THAT GOOD! I was amazed how much more stopping power after putting them on. They broke in over about a 1-2 week period. The bite became stronger and stronger to the point that if you hit the pedal halfway down you might be kissing the dash!
I guess for me recommending the Brembo OEM replacement rotors/discs from tirerack.com and the porterfield pads was just to help others unsure of questionable quality from other sources. And since I was the guinea pig, makes it easier for others to install them and not have to worry if it's going to work. Frustrating when things don't work out, nice when it's smooth going!
glad to help out
I bought OEM brake pads off of Ebay. They are a high quality pad even though some people will disagree with me, and you are assured of having a perfect fit with all the parts. I changed my brake pads at 36,000 miles and I might have been able to get another 5-10,000 miles out of the old ones. The rotors were perfect so only the pads needed to be changed. I did it myself and the cost was under fifty dollars.
Thanks,
LM
which increases in pitch as the car accelerates and turns corners. Then the noise disappears. I drove it over to the dealers' local place, but by the time I got there, the whine had disappeared. However, the whine persists and has gotten a bit louder. Is it likely to be coming from the transmission, and if so, what can I do to reduce or eliminate this noise? So far as I can tell, it has no effect on the car's performance.
If this only happens when cold, arrange to have your car dropped off at the dealership and they keep it overnight. Then when they start it in the morning they can hear the noise and locate the source of the problem.
Sometimes one has to be happy with whatever comes along!
The Sandman
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Does this problem re-occure? Do the tires keep wearing at a fast pace? Has anyone else had to have the arms replaced more than once?
I just don't trust this car however much I love the sleek look of it. I also seem to have a problem with the acceleration. When I push the gas pedal it seems to have a bit of a lag and I don't like it. Just doesn't seem like a solid car!
If so, I am out of here and buying a Toyota Matrix.
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I have the same problem with my 2007 Civic. The A/C went out and when I took it to the dealer they told me a rock cracked the condenser and that my warranty wouldn't cover it. The service manager's name was Wayne.....just wondering if that is a coincidence or if you took it to the Honda dealership in Santa Barbara as well. He played dumb....and acted like he didn't know if anybody else ever had this problem.
Let me know when you get a chance.
Thanks.
I just had a blow-out in carpool lane this morning while driving at 70MPH. It was scary. I had not noticed the very excessive inside wear on this set. I looked at the other side and it is ready to go as well. Outside wear has plenty left.
I know my car is no longer under warranty. But I am trying to get a copy of the TSB 08-001 to take to the dealership. I tried arguing with Honda prior to my warranty ending and it got me nowhere!
Maybe now I can use this as a tool to a least have them fix the root of my problem without me having to pay for it!
Appriciate an e-mail copy of it or link to where I can print it out.
Thanks
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The A/C issue is a well documented problem at American Honda Motor Co. I should know, I did a lot of the documenting... I used to work cases for Honda at their corporate office in Torrance Ca.
Heck, even if its out of warranty, you have a really good chance of getting a free repair. this is what you must do
Call the customer service line at 1.800.999.1009
Connect with a rep. Have all of your info handy (vin and dealer info) and service records handy, having service done exclusively at Honda Dealers really earns you credit for "FREE REPAIRS" although an old friend who still worked there told me they stopped doing that. It still would help in my opinion.
Explain your situation, they've heard it literally thousands of times by now. The condenser, due to its location is susceptible to being punctured by rocks.
A case and case # will be generated. After being inspected by a Honda dealer, your issue will be documented at the dealer. A regional case manager will call you within 1-3 business days and will gather necessary information from the dealer to decide if the situation merits a "FREE REPAIR"
Which for an A/C condenser should merit a free repair, Honda tells their regional case managers to be "generous" with particular situations such as this.
Honda sets aside literally millions of dollars to do out of warranty work for Honda customers who they believe will remain loyal to Honda. Under no circumstances threaten to "never by a Honda" in the future. In their eyes, doing free repairs retains future purchases from current customers. Its all about the dollars after all!
and FYI to everyone who has a Honda, this method can work for almost any issue not covered under warranty except for maybe wear and tear items. But even tires might get paid for (partially) if they were 1) purchased at a dealer and 2) had significant premature wear
The key is to be nice to the dealer and to your case manager, they're people too you know. If you're an [non-permissible content removed], they can be an [non-permissible content removed] because after all, your vehicle isn't covered under warranty and they are at no obligation to pay for anything.
- Kam
I have been having issues since 11/4/08. My dealership has had my car for 8 cumulative days, and in those visits, I have left with new left and right front struts (two weeks apart), new rear arms, and a new door lock actuator. I still hear the noise that I am complaining about, but the mechanics are now saying that my shoes are rubbing on my drums (rear brakes). I only have 21,500 miles on my 2007, and I have been having issues since around 19500.
I picked my car up today, after they had it two days this week, with the "answer" from the mechanic being that it is "not fixable." I do not understand how they can say that yes, my car makes a noise, but it is not abnormal for a car, that I bought brand new and have owned for less than a year and a half, to have these issues. The mechanic supposedly drove another 2007 civic with similar miles, and the car made the same noise, which was the foundation for their comment to me - that it is NORMAL. I cannot accept that it is normal for a new car to make this much noise. I bought a new car to keep from hearing these noises!
I feel as though they were throwing parts at the problem for the last month and almost a half, and still have no answer. The noise that I brought my car in for was not addressed, because they were unable to recreate the noise. At this time, I am beginning to look at the Lemon Law, and have contemplated representation.
Is anyone having problems with strange noises - resulting from when you turn the steering wheel, specifically to the right?
PLEASE HELP!!!
It was kind off a clunk or something like that, they were never able to diagnose or fix it.
After I got rid of the car, I did reasearch and found something about the bump stops for the front end. I believe there was a TSB issued for this but again, it didn't matter at that point. The TSB had to due with defective bump stops that were not manufactured to the correct specs, thus when turning the wheel a clunk or noise would occur.
Hope this helps.
Honda still rocks!
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